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Old 10-08-2007, 12:48 PM   #1
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I can tell you from first hand experience of what it feels like to be gang stalked - this is usually joined in with e-harassment. I have both. One might have a chip - don't know. It all strted afte I went to a life coach - I went to start my own business. Not to explore life.

Anyway - I think this phenomena should not be ignored - it is definently real

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Old 10-08-2007, 02:29 PM   #2
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I can tell you from first hand experience of what it feels like to be gang stalked - this is usually joined in with e-harassment. I have both. One might have a chip - don't know. It all strted afte I went to a life coach - I went to start my own business. Not to explore life.

Anyway - I think this phenomena should not be ignored - it is definently real

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I LOVE YOU!

What do you mean, life coach?? Like a Spin-doctor???

Sorry, not to be critical, but it´s about time that "He who knows" - TALK!!!!!!!!

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Old 10-08-2007, 05:03 PM   #3
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Do you know what gang stalking is? Very real and very nasty thing to do to someone. Look it up here. It has now arrived in UK. Major history in America under the name of Cointelpro this is version 2

Life coach - someone who coaches you to reach your goals. In this case my walls were breached. She was a fackin hypnotist and used under hand techniques and put me out for at least an hour.

See the other posts that I have made under e - harassment. Whether this involved chipping or something else not sure. The technology is pretty advanced apparently. The question I ask myself is why put someone out for a quick discussion about the weather? Perhaps not

umm - I don't think so. I am very clear of the agenda now. The longer it goes on - the clearer it gets. Its called experience

Can't decide if u taking the piss or not?

Ask away and I will talk - beware I can really talk........ or rather write!!

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Old 10-08-2007, 05:22 PM   #4
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your lack of details is annoying and makes you sound kinda wacky. you need to explain yourself, and you could at least supply links if you want people to look up your old threads. don't get me wrong, i am interested in what you have to say.

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Sorry about that. Forgot about the link thing to back up points

Attached are quite a few links - but this gives you an idea of the extent of the problem. I am aware there are a few - but some are much better than others for some info. It needs wide reading to gather others views. Believe me it has arrived in the UK

Perpetrater Links

A 1./ ABOUT PERPETRATER GROUPS
http://www.raven1.net/perpgroups.htm

A 5/ Attempts to Recruit Victims to be Perpetrators
http://www.raven1.net/tryrecruit.htm

A. 2/ ABOUT STREET THEATER
http://www.raven1.net/abtstth.htm
A. 2/ GANGSTALKING
PERPETRATER STALKING GANGS
http://www.gangstalking.ca
A. 3/ ABOUT TERRORIST STALKING IN AMERICA
1. tactics used by cause stalkers 2. personality types of the perpetrators. 3. stalker groups financial sources 4. harassment methods and goals. and lots lots more !!!!
http://www.raven1.net/terstalk.htm
A. 4/ Respones From Questionaire
Questions to perps
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/respones.htm

A. 4/ THE PERPETRATORS (who Would want this job?)
1. what is a perpetrator. 2. how may a perpetrator be identified. 3. who are the perps 4. how could anyone be forced into perpdom 5. who sould want this job? 6. why would anyone want to be a perpetrator ?
http://www.stopcovertwar.com/perps.html

A. 4/ Who Are The Perps ?
Mind Control Discussion Forum Topic
http://p205.ezboard.com/fmindcontrol...c ID=14.topic

BULLY ONLINE
SERIAL BULLY
http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm

Mind Control Discussion Forum / Topic Perpetrators
http://p205.ezboard.com/fmindcontrol...sionforumfrm66

THE SOCIALISED PSYCHOPATH OR SOCIOLPATH
GREAT LINK FROM MEMBER
http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully....htm#sociopath
The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave by Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler
Appendix One The Programmers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindco...m/message/4224


A Thought For Multi-Stalker Victims
CATSTALKING
http://www.communigate.co.uk/brad/copycatstalking/

COPYCAT STALKING
http://uk.geocities.com/copycatstalkers/

Citizens Against Technological and Community-bassed Harassment
http://www.c-a-t-c-h.ca

Common Traits of stalkers
http://www.esia.net/Common_Traits_of_Stalkers.htm

Copy Cat Stalkers
Target Mentality ? An Alternative Perhaps ?
http://www.communigate.co.uk/brad/ga...ypnoticpsychic
attack2/

Dealing with stalkers
http://www.thesite.org/homelawandmon...ingwithstalker
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Forms of Stalking
http://www.esia.net/Forms_of_Stalking.htm

Gang Stalking
Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gangstalking/

Gang Stalking Interview Guide 2004
http://www.raven1.net/gsivwpublic.htm

GangStalking
http://www.gangstalking.ca

GangStalking ( How to fight this )
GangStalking.ca/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindco...m/message/3553


GangStalking Sesitizations
How it Happens www.gangstalking.ca/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindco...m/message/3552

Gaslighting (book review)
How to Drive Your Enemies Crazy (gangstalking.ca)
http://www.multistalkervictims.org/gaslight.htm m_c_resurch_f_m

General Information
http://www.stopcovertwar.com/enter.html

Guide To Dealing With Police Harassment
http://www.waningmoon.com/guide/library/lib0006.shtml

Harassment Hits Close to Home For Mentally ill
http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/c...full/39/6/62-a

House passes tought anti-gang legislation
http://www.sptimes.com/205/05/12/Wor...asses_new_anti
.shtml
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindco...m/message/3575

How to know if you are a target of multiple stakers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindco...m/message/3557

How we can fight GangStalking
http://www.gangstalking.ca/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindco...m/message/3553

Mobbing: Emotional Abuse in the American Workplace
Eleanor White Book Review
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindco...m/message/3556


Multistalkervictims org
http://www.multistalkervictims.org/

Police Sponsored Gang-Stalking Exposed
http://www.freeshop.us/site/store.php?mem_id=1081

Preventing Harassment
http://www.readyforwork.sk.ca/fast-f...harassment.htm

Psychological Harassment Information Association
http://psychologicalharassment.netfirms.com/

SEE ARE TRACKING FOLDER ALSO
Mind control research forum folder
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindco...rchforum/links

STALKING SAFTY TIPS
http://www.esia.net/safety_tips.htm

Stalking
WIKIPEDIA

Stalking Definitions
http://www.stalkingbehavior.com/definiti.htm

Stalking Resource Center
http://www.ncvc.org/src/main.aspx?dbID=dash_Home

Stalking Survival tips

http://www.stalkingvictims.com/survival/survival.htm

Stalking The new epicemic of the new millenium
http://www.esia.net/

Stalking Victims
http://www.stalkingvictims.com/

State Stalking Laws
http://www.esia.net/State_Stalking_Laws.htm

THE Antistalking Web Site
http://www.antistalking.com/resource.htm

THE OFFENCE OF STALKING
http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/ourlaw...s/stalking.htm

Terrorist Stlking in America
Book Review
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/bookreviews.htm

The offence of Stalking
Discussion Paper / Criminal Code
http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/ourlaw...s/stalking.htm

Weird World of Group Stalking and Electronic Harassment
Collection of Links
http://www.stalkingme.zoomshare.com/2.shtml

What is stalking ?
http://www.esia.net/what_is_stalking.htm

I had never heard of it until June of this year. I know that for me it has been going on for quite a while and not really realised what it was that was happening and then bam I was hit with it and its never been the same since. When I say it with it - well it is covert and a disgusting thing to do to someone. It has meant that I cannot go out as freely as I used to. I am not agraphobic or afraid of people as such

- a new version has arrived and it is more community based. It is in the Uk. Apparently London has quite a bad problem with it. Manchester, Bradford - I suppose that covers Yorkshire.


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Old 10-08-2007, 11:18 PM   #6
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i see what it is now. maybe something similar happens to people like icke, shayler, russo, all these high profile people who seem to 'lose it' or sell out in some way.
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I know this last post is a month old but I wanted to bump on it. Gang stalking happens in other countries. I just wanted to ask you Chicken what happened and what do you you were e-stalked first? Did people follow you online and transfer to the street? Why do you think this happened?

Last year I heard a case when a woman was being gang stalked and she made a video of it (I think it's found in one of the links you posted).
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Old 24-09-2007, 05:42 PM   #9
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Hi Spacegirl

Why and when and How?

Well as with all stories of gang stalking they are set up to be unbelievable so when they are recounted back to a hearer the teller is considered to be a nutbar.

Yes - it happens in other countries. I had never heard of it until a few months ago. I was mobbed by car assaults and by foot in the local town a nd pretty much everywhere I went. I could not understand it at first because it was very odd to be surrounded by people you did not know. They also did stupid things which is described as street theatre.

Well that covers when and how

Why? - was I had online first not sure? We had loads of things go wrong with the computer to start with. I always had it on stealth mode and then it was doing odd things - slow, emails disappearing etc etc....

Then looking back we had a lot of car things go wrong - vandalised etc etc. Then I became e-harassed - so had all the usual symptoms associated with that. Then was organised stalked in a big way. It went on for weeks and weeks. It is still going on. Its a way to exterminate you - destroy your life. I have a few members of my family who believe me big time.
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I can tell you from first hand experience of what it feels like to be gang stalked - this is usually joined in with e-harassment. I have both. One might have a chip - don't know. It all strted afte I went to a life coach - I went to start my own business. Not to explore life.

Anyway - I think this phenomena should not be ignored - it is definently real

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i know this area very well indeed . i too was gang stalked but itstarted off with the local authorities in small ways .
it esculated when ( just like you ) i started my own business .
some people think our authorities are not like this , but they are ! later i will show the law that states that they can totally "hinder" your progress under law with large businesses , local bobbies , banks etc .
anyway i will start from basics .



at 1st , many people dont realise that they have been targeted .

they are not to blame as they trust the system and those in power , but thats not to say im talking about mi5 or cia or even top government officials .

it could be the local councils , tax offices , or other various departments .



likei said .
at 1st its not always obvious to the "T,I" ( Targeted Individual ) that they have been targeted .

common factors that may arrise in their life , is the "coincidence" factor .

commonly linked to electronic harrasment , IE monitoring devices or hidden cammeras , a person who has been targeted may find , that

one day they talk to a freind about a certain issue .
the next day , whilst walking into a shop , the individual could experience a complete stranger , who then brings up the subject in almost the exact same way , as was previously done by the individual behind closed doors .

this is just one small tactic .
this is done so that the "T,I" ( Targeted Individual ) is made awear that something isnt quite right .
at 1st this seems as a coincidence , but later on , these coincedenes happen time and time again , in more detail .
this is a tactic to make them appear crasy , but to the strangers around them , nothing seems out of the ordinary , thus

the individual starts to feel or could feel paranoid.

like i said , this is only one small tactic , and is played out over a long time , so that it is only obvious to the "T,I" but to no one else .

one such symptom of a life of a "T,I" being targeted by authorities is what i call the "IN OUT" tactic.

this is my own term that i have made my self due to the true lie experience of having it happen to me .

the "IN OUT" tactic happens like this .

imagine MR Smith , hes just got a pay rise .( remember ! he pays full rent and full poll tax , meaning that rent o taxes cannot go up any further )

All of the sudden , out of nowhere , comes
an urgent tax bill for the sum of £3000.
he is told to pay within 2 weeks .
he phones up the tax office and protests and insist he has all his receipts and can prove he has payed and wishes to make an appeal .
whilst on the phone he is told , that he can appeal but that takes 4 weeks .
Mr smith tells them that he was told to pay in 2 weeks other wise the bailiffs come round to take his stuff .
the tax clerk ( who probably doesn't even know him , or whats happening ) says ,
"OK MR Smith , we see your point and we will review this issue , however we recommend you still pay small sums of money , would you like to make an offer ?"
MR Smith , protests but sees that he is fighting a loosing battle , so agrees with small payment plan while the case is being reviewed .
however ???????????
this is happening in december just before Christmas .
the Christmas period has come and gone , an when the end of the january and feburary sales finish , MR Smith then finds that the tax office repays his money back with no apology .

to which now , his rent has suddenly gone up and he owes some money from some period years ago , thus imediatly placing him in debt yet he knows he doesnt own it .
they do this because they are counting on the fact that you would have lost all records from that time being so long ago .
after months of being on a bailifs list , fighting it and pushing hard , it is found that h never did oue them money . then suddenly another large bill comes in from yet a different company like ? electric that says their records show a debt from yet ? years ago again .

these tactics are played upon "T,I"s at the same time as the "coincidence" tactics are played , this can give earn extra ooomph power to the affect of breacking down MR Smith.


another sign that the "T,I" can see is an increase to services around the area and an increase of persons wishing to ave access to the home .

these can come in the forms of

gas meter readers
electric meter readers
water companies
double glazing sails
even jahovah witnesses

are just some of the "increased" traffic in personell that have an end adgender of a quick peeky boo in the "T,I"s property .

im not talking about every day life here , im talking about a sudden increase , just after premotion , or after a real issue could be debated on a forum .

a way to spot it is to remember when the last time these people came to your area .
for instance a "T,I" would know something is wrong when - for instance , another gas meter reading person comes round , despite thefact their meter was read less than 3 months previous .
or when an inspecto comes in , after the last inspection shows it was clear , yet the next guy says something like

"well i dont know mate , must have lost the paper work"

or

"well you know these office boys , cant get nothing right".

this is no joke , this happens to "T,I"s , and the "sudden increase" always happens in and around the "IN OUT" tactic coupled with the "coincidence" tactic , yet another ooomph to their sickery .



including the "increased personell" traffic will be an increase of strangers walking past the house , sometimes looking directly at their windows , or just , so happening , to want to walk up the ally next to their house , to go a long way round , just to go the other way .
little things like this and im not talking about nowand again , its usually when the "increased personell" tactic is enforced .
these patterns of behaviour again only appear to the "T,I" during these times only .
not last year and this year , but during those times .one thing i missed out on the post above .
an increase of road traffc .
like , a car pulling up just down the road , they stay there , then go .

later on during the week , you are on your way to work and see that car in a laybye .

ths is the tagging tactic often used by "P,I"s , police observations or secret black ops .

the cars are not usually normal cars , although they can be , usually its a car that is fantasticly smart and expensive , thus again , only the "T,I" will know that they haveseen it down their road before just doing nothing .
to an outside observer , its all nothingto worry about but to the "T,I" , they know better .

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Why are folks harassed and gang stalked ?

a few reasons . So be patient .

1) To find out if new operatives are up to the job , this means unfortunately , that a member can be picked even if they have done nothing wrong , its an experiment .

2) The individual has been targeted because a slow subliminal program of "seek and destroy" a certain other individual is being enforced . This is a subtle mind control tactic that slowly brings into affect , a slow process of subject , that link other subjects , that then links to one person .
In affect the "T,I" is slowly being mind programmed as an assassin .
Through many many years of being electronically harassed or gang stalked , the person is slowly driven to madness , however !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
these "T,I"s are usually the acclaimed "miss fits" or "drop outs" of society , that way , in the eventual outcome , a Dr's diagnosis of schizophrenia or clinical madness covers up the "T,I"s experiences as delusions and takes away the phocus from the experiences to the "T.I"s mentality instead .

3) The "T,I" is close to something very important .
I may even cover this one in more detail later , however , getting back on track, these "T,I"s may have said something important or found something of grave matters and has accidentally told a person who may have connections else where . This doesn't mean that the person they told has totally betrayed them with an intent , more over it could have been an accidental slip up , or just a comment that as made by the person they told near some one who does think its important . From there the person they told are politely and covertly through conversation asked questions as to where and when they heard the issue , this brings back the whole idea of being laid back to the "T,I" .
Thus, an unintentional process of _ being a loud mouth , gets them in trouble for a reason that was not sinister in the 1st place but turns out nasty in the long run through no fault of their own or thir freinds .

4) too much prodding big brother this speaks for it self .

5) a mind control experiment has back fired and a slow process of targeting take place to crush the individuals character integrity .

6)The individual has stuck out like a sour thumb and does not comply to the systems "hold you down" rules and is making a big change in their life . The big bros do not like this as , if one person can do it , so can the rest , so they do the slow process thing hence it can be done in and aroun a premotion.

7) The "T,I" is not liked by some one up top in position of councils , tax offices etc . ( maybe they made the tax mans daughter pregnant , lol but not funny )

these are just a few reasons behind why some people are harassed or gang stalked .

another erlation to being a "T,I" is very related to another thread called

rules of disinformation .


these tactics are also known as


gas lihting in the gang stalking departments,


i call it


fire starting and always have done because of the way that good practicers of gang stalking adopt the same rules as dis info artists . the traits are a common tactic through out the security

mind control

section of rules of engagement .

sorry for copying and pasting but its a real must see and definatly relates to this subject on controling
other peoples minds around individuals who are being targeted under te mind control field .

they are as followed .




http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums...pic.php?t=1222



2. Become incredulous and indignant - (How dare you question Rik's parents, etc.)

3. Create rumour mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumours and wild accusations

5. Side-track opponents with name calling and ridicule. (We've been called all sorts - vultures, vampires, nutters, etc. etc.)

6. Hit and Run - (a poster will pop up out of the blue, then disappear)ie they make a comment but then refuse to say why they made it and insinuate to others that it should be obvious why

8. Invoke authority ‘one who knows’ - (Rik's 'friends' 'I knew him in REAL LIFE'.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions i.e. (‘yes I agree there are some unanswered questions, but this has been blown out of all proportion’ type thing.)

18. Emotionalise, Antagonise, and Goad Opponents.

24. Silence critics. tell themto shut up or grow up in attempt to ridicule or under dog the aponant .

Traits of the dis-info agent

or spotting a investigator or gang stalking agent .

these traits are so common it is consistant through out the feild in all levels .



1) They never actually discuss issues head on

4) They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams and always decharactorise the indiviual as a lesser being .

5) Their disdain for "conspiracy theorists" or state that you are not complying to be a decent person , ie moralistic thus insinuating you are bad ..

6) An odd kind of "artificial" emotionalism and an unusually thick skin


i have slightly altered this info to show how they are very much the same .
although disinfo agents have the same traits as a gang stalker recruting agent .

also thos involved in gng stalking also have the same triats even if they are a beginner

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Artwyse, you expect people to read this???

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This technique is being used I suspect against a large amount of people. Its a tool of the Intellectual Property crooks. Plenty of people don't realise why they have been targeted I suspect. In effect these groups force suicide or mental problems in their marks. If you stay as a good little machine for these cretins they let you life your life. As soon as you wake up, the mind fuck games begin. All end of things happen to ensure that you display outward signs of mental illness. I bet that there are plenty of people who have ended up dead or sectioned because of these bastards. It is the entertainment media in cahoots with the security services screwing with the minds of those which they have ripped off. That is it in a nutshell. Crooks hiding behind badges, pushing their victims over the edge.
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This technique is being used I suspect against a large amount of people. Its a tool of the Intellectual Property crooks. Plenty of people don't realise why they have been targeted I suspect. In effect these groups force suicide or mental problems in their marks. If you stay as a good little machine for these cretins they let you life your life. As soon as you wake up, the mind fuck games begin. All end of things happen to ensure that you display outward signs of mental illness. I bet that there are plenty of people who have ended up dead or sectioned because of these bastards. It is the entertainment media in cahoots with the security services screwing with the minds of those which they have ripped off. That is it in a nutshell. Crooks hiding behind badges, pushing their victims over the edge.

so ture so true !
good observation . i have never hered it put that way before .

yes , theydo use the media to fck with some peoples minds .
the crux of the matter is this !


they do watch individuals !
not the masses ! and this is why !



society is being governed by laws that creat a bottle !
this bottles is the security and media / local councils etc .

now , if you imagine people inside that bottle . it is quite easy to hold all the mass/es , within the midde of the bottle shape ,where all the room is . this is the large bottom half that many of us refure to as the sheep pen . the sheeple hold / mentality . so if you wish to gab the largest and most easily obtaind part of that mass , it would be easier to go for the bottom half of the bottle shaped society to gian so much control over the masses as quickly as possible .

BUT !

it is a bottle dont forget .
some people , who refuse to stay put , move around in society quite alot , they try this , they try that , and every time its like some has an eye on them and they meet strange activity over all their life .
after a while they see a hole for escape , maybe a small business , or an invention idea , probably something that they can see , will gain them independance .
this is when gang stalking comes in play and the authorities start fcking up with peoples lives with connections in many areas.

why ?

because if that one ( yet apparently ) small individual finds a way out of the net to gain freedom for them self
























EVERY ONE WILL DO IT !

so ?
they fck about with their life , hinder their progess with smart control points , and also , in some cases , WILL make new laws , in diffrent departments , in an attempt that will stop this individul progressing .

not so much a case because they hate the individual although we must not count that out . no not at all , its just because if they find a way to freedom and security , so can every one else .

this is why they watch individuals !
and they do watch ! individuals ! some times ? all their life !
why ?

because they know that these individuals have a fantastic gnack for seeing small tunnels of light through the woods .

thats why this is very credible , and why it is not only reasonable , but more than possible that the individual gets watched , not the masses .

it has not so much to do with being hated , it because they watch these individuals to create more control points .
yes thse individuals feel targeted and many are , but the reason behind it , it to experiment for contrl points on the masses .
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A lot of it is to do with the different research bodies. They get funded to see the effects of something. No one would ever volunteer for it so they either pick someone or a small area at random or they attack those they deem to be without a life worth living.

After the research, investigation or long term theft has been carried out they gaslight them. Everyone around them thinks that they are mad as it is not happening to them. Or they are even in on it as well! Of course there is always the possibility of mental illness being triggered merely by coincidence or chance.

However the volume of people who claim that they have suffered from this points to a more orchestrated attack of the individual. These sorts of things are happening all of the time and it is covered up with them mimicking the symptoms of mental illness in the mark. Of course once they set the ball rolling in the TI. The TI can and often will start to see intimidation etc where it don't exist. The need to be believed can and often does casue emense feelings of frustration and alieanation. This can ultimately lead to ptsd developing. Whereby someone trusts apsolutely no one.

Of course if you attempt to raise what is going on people will quickly say you're nuts, ill mad etc. Only if you're lucky enough to have even the slighest piece of evidence to support any aspect of what you claim will the psychological attack ease off. These attacks can be intensified via the use of physical props.

The props dont even have to be genuine. They can for example even just use a red bulb in a torch and point it at you. Or they may say things as you walk past a group. Such as "is that the ****, good". Start following you in a sort of batton race. Ensure that your bank account is empty, even though money is going in to it. Send court summons for non payment of council tax, even though you're exempt or have paid the balance in full. Steal your car, even if the thing has been broken down for 3 months and chained to a wall! Remove objects from your home and then put them back a few days later. Cut your landline phonecable in the exchange on a line just installed a couple of days earlier. This is a great one. Switch the pin on your different bank cards. Steal cash from your home. Drug the food and drink from the local shop. Spread rumours about you. Whisper and look at you strangely when you're in their presence. Deny your card at the checkout repeatedly even though there is a balance in the account.

The most important thing is to try and stay grounded. I know it is not easy. Some things are just a coincidence. However when you are a TI everything becomes an attack as you have had to endure 50-100 such little things every day for a couple of weeks, months even and so it is hard to get others to believe you. I would find a way to collate evidence so that if you get taken away in a white coat you have something tangiable to show that supports your story.

Keep a diary but not every little scrap of paper or receipt. Believe me they know exacty what are classed as symptons of mental illness and utilise these to the fullest extent so as to discredit the TI. If you have been spiked with drugs some can last for a couple of weeks at a time. So it is important to remain grounded and try to not be in situations where you will be vulnerable to even more attack. I went through 6 months of hell last year. With all the tricks and some I have forgotten used agaisnt me. They wanted me dead. I'm totally clear about that.
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Old 03-10-2008, 08:59 AM   #16
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sounds very familiar .
good advice there by the way . very good .

the collection of evidance is vital .
i have found that sticking to a routine for a while whilst observing the environment and people is vital . however , after a month it is vial to change routine completly !
this trows off many of those involved and i have found that it makes them vunerabable due to the fact that it throws them off cours and they then make blatent silly mitakes .

however , before you change that routine , learn to predict what will happen next . if you can gather enough evidance during your routines , then predict whats going on , then change that routine and be able to predict what might happen because of it , this is a fantastic evidance strengthner because in no way should anyone be able to predict what others call a coincidence as far as other people is concerned .

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I started to buy from different shops unexpectedly. I would instead of saying when at home. Right I'm off up the shops to buy xyz. Just say you are going the library just so that you don't alert them to your routine. In fact I would change the pattern and routine as often as possible. Buy different size milk containers and brands of food etc. Vary things as much as possible in your life. I know a lot of this would seem like an over reaction to an outsider. But when it is happening to you. Every coincidence seems to reinforce paranoia and make it seem even worse.

I reckon that on one level, it is a defence mechanism of the matrix. When you're close to causing the system to collapse, it starts using a virus program on you, to try and erase you from the system. For the system, needs to flow, to stay in charge and if you are causing it to become blocked, it will attempt to unblock itself. The place I lived, when this was going on. Was very depressing and I felt insecure.

However it had been chosen by them, as there was no way to put any additional security features on the doors and windows. The frames were of such a shape, that you couldn't put any window locks on them. I saw on the front door someone else before me, had possibly gone through a similar thing. As there was evidence of additional high security locks and stuff. I even installed some secret cctv to try and catch them in the act. Unfortunately my electric box was accessible from outside so they use to switch the mains off then enter and turn it back on when they left. I know that they did this as the clock was reset to 00:00 and it had failed to record.

I really do think it was the security forces involved, or people trying to imply that they were the security forces. I had hell for a long time. It all escalated in my life. At first I noticed some people seemed to be coming and going in the neighbouring flats to mine. As if they were working shifts observing me. I became a bit suspicious and woke up to my lyrics being stolen. Then when I blew the whistle on something the shit hit the fan in my life. I am still not 100% due to the psychological games they played on me. But I am much stronger mentally now.

There's a few of the stooges in the new area I live in. Every now and then they will repeat back conversations I have had in my home. An example being my saying that I needed someone to help me with all the paperwork I had piling up. I went out up the road later on that day and when I got close to someone walking towards me. They stopped suddenly stared ahead of them and shock their body and started saying paperwork paperwork all the while going brrr brrr! This is the sort of stuff going on around me on a regular occurance. I inhabit a surreal world with loads of instances of psychological attack. I've learned to ignore it the best I can.

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has anyone noticed suspicious things appearing in their google results?
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has anyone noticed suspicious things appearing in their google results?
I was having loads of porn turn up when ever I went to the picture search. It was as if they were preloading it all for me

I once had a dreambox for cable TV. I became extremely suspicious that things were not right. As I had moved the tv stand to a better position. Only each day when I went out. I would return to find that it had been moved slightly, and was off centre to the stand.

When I pulled the front cover, off from the machine. I saw a small square home made circuit board, with some wires leading from it behind one of the front smoked covers. I'm sure that they had been filming me. I freaked out at this point and just left my flat as I realised what they had been filming! When I returned later on to the flat, the circuit board had vanished from the cable box. Also my cable was constantly being disconnected outside.

I had loads of this going on. All mind fuck games. My passwords would be swapped round, and so would my pins on my cards. They tried to suicide me, to cover up what they had stolen from me, as well as what I had uncovered. They tried to imply that I had a tracking chip. That I should buy a Faraday cage and sit inside it. I still don't know, what the fuck to do, with what I know. It will make me be hated, I am sure, but sometimes you have to take the shit storm, and say fuck the consequences for yourself. Its hard to overcome though. Someone I use to know, who I believe could be one of them. Use to say things like. I have a friend in the home office, or I have a friend who is a Liberal MP. Or that they have an ex who was in the army in Hereford.

Granted it could all be a coincidence and paranoia. I know it is not though. It was not my imagination, believe me. I had a real bad time and they wanted me to kill myself. They piled on the pshchological pressure combined with drugging me and I resisted it as much as I could.

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I started to buy from different shops unexpectedly. I would instead of saying when at home. Right I'm off up the shops to buy xyz. Just say you are going the library just so that you don't alert them to your routine. In fact I would change the pattern and routine as often as possible. Buy different size milk containers and brands of food etc. Vary things as much as possible in your life. I know a lot of this would seem like an over reaction to an outsider. But when it is happening to you. Every coincidence seems to reinforce paranoia and make it seem even worse.

I reckon that on one level, it is a defence mechanism of the matrix. When you're close to causing the system to collapse, it starts using a virus program on you, to try and erase you from the system. For the system, needs to flow, to stay in charge and if you are causing it to become blocked, it will attempt to unblock itself. The place I lived, when this was going on. Was very depressing and I felt insecure.

However it had been chosen by them, as there was no way to put any additional security features on the doors and windows. The frames were of such a shape, that you couldn't put any window locks on them. I saw on the front door someone else before me, had possibly gone through a similar thing. As there was evidence of additional high security locks and stuff. I even installed some secret cctv to try and catch them in the act. Unfortunately my electric box was accessible from outside so they use to switch the mains off then enter and turn it back on when they left. I know that they did this as the clock was reset to 00:00 and it had failed to record.

I really do think it was the security forces involved, or people trying to imply that they were the security forces. I had hell for a long time. It all escalated in my life. At first I noticed some people seemed to be coming and going in the neighbouring flats to mine. As if they were working shifts observing me. I became a bit suspicious and woke up to my lyrics being stolen. Then when I blew the whistle on something the shit hit the fan in my life. I am still not 100% due to the psychological games they played on me. But I am much stronger mentally now.

There's a few of the stooges in the new area I live in. Every now and then they will repeat back conversations I have had in my home. An example being my saying that I needed someone to help me with all the paperwork I had piling up. I went out up the road later on that day and when I got close to someone walking towards me. They stopped suddenly stared ahead of them and shock their body and started saying paperwork paperwork all the while going brrr brrr! This is the sort of stuff going on around me on a regular occurance. I inhabit a surreal world with loads of instances of psychological attack. I've learned to ignore it the best I can.

this is tpical of gang stalking , and i like your destination diversion too , sayingyour going some where and going somewhere else .

thats what i used to do too . this is well freaky .

but guess what ?

atleast i know im not the only one .

well done on that stratergy too , its a best good way also to throw them off .


well done !
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