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Old 05-11-2012, 05:25 PM   #261
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I know there is a theory that the druids gave sanctuary to the Judean refugees and that they converted the druids, but that is pure guess work so far as I know.
Then you didn't read my post. Let me repeat myself:
Gildas says that Christianity came to Britain, "In the last year of the reign of Tiberias Caesar," which would be 37 AD.
Now you know it's not pure guesswork, but scholarship. Gildas' writings may or may not be reliable - but then, how much of our historical texts are??

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My view is that if it did happen - it was Jesus who took back druidic principles to preach, so when early Christians came to Britain they did not convert the druids they merely told them of how druidism was being interpreted.
My view is that they never were entirely seperate. But I don't see a one-way flow of truth/wisdom either.
Neither had primacy over the other.
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Old 05-11-2012, 05:32 PM   #262
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Then you didn't read my post. Let me repeat myself:
Gildas says that Christianity came to Britain, "In the last year of the reign of Tiberias Caesar," which would be 37 AD.
Now you know it's not pure guesswork, but scholarship. Gildas' writings may or may not be reliable - but then, how much of our historical texts are??



My view is that they never were entirely seperate. But I don't see a one-way flow of truth/wisdom either.
Neither had primacy over the other.

I didn't say it was guess work, I said it was a theory. I question the date. Jesus was only crucified at about that time and there was no Christianity when he was alive. Just a handful of followers. It seems very quick for there to have been followers teaching his ideas, then those who were taught getting to England - on foot, before AD60.
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:14 PM   #263
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I didn't say it was guess work, I said it was a theory.
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...that is pure guess work so far as I know.
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I question the date. Jesus was only crucified at about that time
Exactly. The Romans were after the blood of every one of them - bigtime!
They were hiding, and on the run, immediately.

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It seems very quick for there to have been followers teaching his ideas,
He had followers before the crucifixion.

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..then those who were taught getting to England - on foot, before AD60.
Not on foot - but by ship - from Phonecia. There was trade with Britain going on - for tin from Cornwall and lead from the Mendips (archaeologically demonstrated).
Imo, the story of the holy family being set adrift without sails or oars, and drifting to Marseilles, is a legend based on fact - as all legends are. They were actually given safe passage by the traders. Some of them continued on to the ships' destination - where the Druids were waiting to receive them.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:35 PM   #264
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I have not gone though the thread in detail so this may have been covered already.
If Jesus came to England it would have been between 15 and 30 AD. He was crucified between 30 and 36 AD. In 60AD following an invasion in AD 43 the Romans committed genocide of the English druids, on Anglesey and destroyed evidence of their teachings. The only two religions the Romans banned and tried to destroy were Christianity and Druidism.

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Has history been tampered with? Countless chronicles as well as works of art and literature have been considered authentic for centuries before becoming denounced as counterfeit.A presumed fragment of Cicero's "De Consolatione" discovered by the famous humanist scholar Sigonius only became identified as a work of the latter two centuries after the death of the author -- we would probably still believe in Cicero's authorship of said fragment if it hadn't been for the discovery of Sigonius' written confession.

Similar examples are rather abundant -- the "Thespian poet Lucius Varus" who turned out to be a 18th century Dutch scientist by the name of Heerkens plagiarizing from the 16th century Venetian author Corrario, the German "translation" of a Phoenician history tractate by a student named Wagenfeld in the 19th century, "classical" texts sold to the Leipzig library by a certain Schennis in the 1920's and so forth. Think of just how many remain undiscovered -- after all, the larger part of the iceberg always remains underwater.

However, there may be an equal amount of valid historical documents in existence that were declared forgeries due to their being at odds with the official history. Anatoly Fomenko, the prominent mathematician, was the first to apply natural scientific methods to historical data, coming up with a revolutionary theory which implies a radical revision of history as we know it. This theory finally explains such historical oddities as the existence of Christian tabernacles in the pagan town of Pompeii and the Ottoman Turks referred to as "Persians" in mediaeval documents, your view of history shall never be the same again!

Biblical characters in the Middle Ages.

We are accustomed quite well to thinking that the events described in the Bible - and especially in the Old Testament - date back to an epoch so distant that it can hardly be called "historical" in the usual sense. We seem to know everything there is to know about these times and these characters, in particular that most of them date to epochs preceding the new era by a couple of millennia, and that the events described in the Bible took place in and around the Middle East for the most part.

Could all of what we know be untrue? The big news is that it can, and is - the extensive research conducted by numerous Biblical scholars notwithstanding. Although the good faith of the latter can be doubted in quite a few cases, even the most scrupulous of scientists who ever had to tackle the gigantic array of data contained in the Bible were basing their research on the existing chronology - too obvious and self-implying to strike anyone as untrue. The sole exception to this is a group of mathematicians who have used the newest statistical methods to analyze the Bible from an altogether different standpoint, having revised the consensual chronology completely prior to that.

The results are astonishing to say the least. We learn that the Biblical Jerusalem was in fact located on the Bosporus and known as Constantinople and that the Biblical kingdoms of Israel and Judah can be identified as the mediaeval Roman Empire - the familiar characters transform into their mediaeval doppelgangers which are a lot less familiar to us but known quite well to historians. And it is from the part of the historians that we hear the loudest and most indignant criticisms of the new research - a touch too loud, perhaps, and with too many ad hominem accusations scattered here and there for us to declare the new chronology a blatant and unscientific lie the way they urge us to. There's just too much vitriol and a surprising paucity of actual academic argumentation.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:23 PM   #265
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The Roman writer Martial mentions a Claudia and Pudens and that Claudia was British and had a "strange religion". It would seem too much of a coincdence that this Claudia and Pudens are not the same mentioned in 2 Timothy

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Martial lived from 40-100 AD, the same time frame that Paul wrote 2 Timothy.

We also know that Caractacus (Caradoc) and his family were captured and taken to Rome from Britain in 53AD
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:09 PM   #266
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Old 24-12-2012, 12:32 AM   #267
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Old 24-12-2012, 01:44 AM   #268
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Old 24-12-2012, 05:31 AM   #269
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actually, most modern druids believe that ireland was the centre of druidry, not britain.
irish mythology speaks of the druids of the fir bolg and the tuatha de danann, who were both in ireland centuries before the milesians, who were the first celtic peoples in ireland. they same from spain.
My paternal forbears came from W. Ireland as far back as we can trace (c 1790)

I did a DNA test (haplotype I2) to find out their earliest origin and it seems that this haplotype originated about 30,000 years ago in the area that is now Rumania/Bulgaria and it migrated over thousands of years, arriving in Ireland c2000BC, possibly with the first metalworkers

The DNA of most Irish and English is that of the neolithic inhabitants, not "Celts" or Anglo-saxons
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Old 24-12-2012, 09:39 PM   #270
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Old 29-12-2012, 12:00 AM   #271
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The DNA of most Irish and English is that of the neolithic inhabitants, not "Celts" or Anglo-saxons
Most Irish and British males are R1b, which is the Celtic marker, you are correct though that I2 is the oldest European marker but that is very rare in Britain and Ireland.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:50 PM   #272
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Bloodlines connect with the key centres of London and Paris. Two energies interacting produce a third, bloodlines are also obsessed with astrology and the esoteric arts,so when we change what is happening within us, we change our physical experience because one is a reflection of the other. It is this ‘magnetic’ attraction of like vibration to like vibration that leads to people living in streets of a certain name or having relationships with those of a certain name, etc., because everything has its own vibrational code, including sounds, numbers, words, colours and names. In ritual magic the correct sounds, words, incantations, and colours, are all used to manifest a desired energy field or vibratory field. Sound is especially important and this is why the Phoenicians were concerned more with the sound of their words than their spelling. Mantras, the constant repeating of the same phrase or sound, are part of this same knowledge. And, like all knowledge, they can be used for good or ill. At the highest level of the black magicians who control the Brotherhood networks,had long been planned according to their ancient ritual's...

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Old 22-01-2013, 05:15 PM   #274
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The Roman writer Martial mentions a Claudia and Pudens and that Claudia was British and had a "strange religion". It would seem too much of a coincdence that this Claudia and Pudens are not the same mentioned in 2 Timothy

Martial lived from 40-100 AD, the same time frame that Paul wrote 2 Timothy.

We also know that Caractacus (Caradoc) and his family were captured and taken to Rome from Britain in 53AD
Who wrote about/mentioned Martial ?
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There is a very good book that is worth reading. Its also possible that Jesus as he was known in that time in fact never has truly died as such as mortal people do.

The book is called "The Quest for Merlin" by Nikolai Tolstoy.
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how did i ever miss this thread?
it'll take me a while to sort through it.
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