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 16-11-2009, 08:35 AM #401 skywalker9 Member   Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) ProfileTest..2.1.2 After all the opinions, sciences and techniques, the most stable eternal part one will eventually find is the part that sees, the seer part in us, Which by looking at the Rodin Maths looks like THE 9.
 17-11-2009, 09:49 AM #402 skywalker9 Member   Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) The reduced recurring 24 number sets of fibonacci numbers can be overlayed with the chromatic scale of the octave. The Chromatic scale repeats logarithmically every DO, the DO marking the end of the last and the beginning of the next octave whether you are spiralling up or down in scale, leading into higher or lower octaves of time; or states of electromagnetic spectrum, which can also be overlayed with octaves or Fibonacci sequence. The chromatic scale can be overlayed with reduced fibonacci sequence because the beginning or ending of a sequence is a 9. The link between the rodin maths and music needs to be made. Last edited by skywalker9; 17-11-2009 at 09:53 AM. Reason: link to image failed
 17-11-2009, 09:54 AM #403 skywalker9 Member   Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) The C note logarithmically moves up or down in scale. 16 hertz = 7 or higher DO 32 hertz = 5 or " DO 64 hertz = 1 or " DO 128 hertz = 2 or " DO 256 hertz = 4 or " DO 512 hertz = 8 or " DO Theres the 7,5,1,2,4,8 progression on the torus skin map. Meaning between each number is an octave or reverberating logarithmic progression. The Chromatic scale is a fractal, so the way the octave relates to the torus skin map can be expaned or contracted to find new possible interesting links for the music in the rodin maths. Something that still has to be done. In DO is also another whole octave, and an octave in each one of its notes. Just as you can get all colors from one color. DO --- RE --- MI --- FA...... etc do,re,mi,fa,so,la,si,do --- do,re,mi,fa,so,la,si,do --- do,re,mi,fa,so,la,si,do --- do,re,mi,fa,so,la,si,do And each of these notes can be expanded into an octave fractally. By discovering the link between the rodin maths and music might help us define the exact numerological value of the ancient alphabets. Also by finding the geometric dimensions of a stone block you could then mathematically determine its signature frequency with this music link in the rodin maths. Then by playing the exact mirror opposite frequency music to the actual signature frequency of the stone block may reverse its gravity or render it weightless for easy relocation. Last edited by skywalker9; 17-11-2009 at 10:13 AM. Reason: additional bit
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 Originally Posted by skywalker9 The link between the rodin maths and music needs to be made.
It was briefly disscused on page 26, about solfeggio freqs.

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 Originally Posted by skywalker9 ProfileTest..2.1.2 After all the opinions, sciences and techniques, the most stable eternal part one will eventually find is the part that sees, the seer part in us, Which by looking at the Rodin Maths looks like THE 9.
In my analysis (which you can take or leave) the 9 is like "infinity".
There would be 2 infinites - one ascending (9), one descending (zero).

The original enneagram (for me) symbolises the individual - in mapping the ancient egyptian neters the symbol for Osiris (the "eye") appears inside the Inner Triad (or Hall of Amenti). Rodin's X2 circuit is more about what happens when two individuals connect - it has no inner triad because there is a "wormhole" connecting two enneagrams together like the Stargate scenario discussed earlier.

"Di"=2/"Ren"=1/"Tian"=0

The "Seer" part you mention sounds like the old "" - which is exactly what the inner "Hall of Amenti" is; it's like the "" or as an infinite regression (or perhaps you might say a "feedback" like the "").

Another "Eye" symbol in hieroglyphics is the (aka "") which was split into fractions of 64. That's right - I said 64. "Wadjet" also sounds a lot like the arabic word "Wajh" meaning 'face' and is used to describe the Enneagram. I have used the term "Eye of Horus" (Vortex Grid) differently to define the Vector Equilibrium, and this aspect connects the work of Rodin and Nassim together - "seeing eye-to-eye" (as it were).

There would then (based on this analogy) be a case for Thoth and Maat as the "Two Eyes" - , or "Qiamat" in arabic - "The Day of Judgement" (or "Judgement of Day" perhaps?).

I haven't gone into the base3 symbolism of the numbers much, but I have this Inner Triad down as Zero - which is an essential paradox at the heart of the dial motif. For example, the reason the number "1" is not the number "2" involves Zero: 1 != 2... (1 "does not equal" 2).

So, Zero is the reason we have numbers around a circle - none of them equal each other ("not equal to" = Zero).

I still haven't had chance to finish my diagrams explaining this visual logic and how it can solve the . It also solves the Inner Triad and involves the reciprocal arithmetic I described earlier - eg, "plus 6" is also equivalent to "minus 3".

The other "missing" aspect is that of the outer circle itself - you could say that this is the "9" as a unit in an infinite series of ascending "octaves". The "" itself would then represent a cyclic vortex of infinity as a Stargate connecting an individual (via Osiris - the eye/seer) by a dual process of ascension and regression, forming a wormhole.

We could also describe the two infinities as "internal" (Enneagram) and "external" (Rodin Dial).

Dr Manhattan (9, Rodin Dial) versus Rorschach (Zero, Enneagram) ???

Anyhow...
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Mane, very interesting I've been working on something similar for a while now - turn it 90 degrees and you get a .

"over it is 19"[74:30]
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 17-11-2009, 01:13 PM #406 skywalker9 Member   Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) Cheers plainsight, solfeggio frequencies. And alot of other music links! After looking at the solfeggio frequencies, I noticed that when you plot the reduced recurring set of 24 fibonacci numbers on a 24 point YinYang circle, with the 9 at the top and bottom of its 'S' curve, and your 3 and 6 in there polarity dots. It all balances nice at 9, as a yinyang should. Also, the whole way around, if you start with an equilateral triangle apex at top 9 in the yinyang and other ends of the triangle on the 3 and 6 fibonacci numbers that are plotted on the circumference of the circle, well if you just turn the triangle one step round the plotted 24 points, the triangle will fall on the usual number families, and some different combinations of them, and you come across some of the solfeggio frequencies on the way around, you find all the solfeggio frequencies if the order of the numbers doesn't matter, which would be fine if they were chords on a piano, but not if they are specific frequencies. Also some interesting 888 and 111 groups. Always finding +8,-8,+8 when you find -1,+1,-1. Just an observation. Last edited by skywalker9; 17-11-2009 at 01:19 PM. Reason: because
 18-11-2009, 06:38 AM #408 barbitone Senior Member   Join Date: May 2007 Location: KURANDA,QLD, AUSTRALIA Posts: 1,272 Likes: 3 (2 Posts) Image created by Skywalker9; __________________ Squeegee your third-fucking-eye-(Bill Hicks) THE NASSIM HARAMEIN THREAD http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32453 THE MARKO RODIN THREAD http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61370 http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61612
 18-11-2009, 02:36 PM #409 skywalker9 Member   Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) Alright! If you go around the Yinyang with an equilateral triangle you get some relevant number groups. Firstly, the only place I could think to put the reduced set of 24 fibonacci numbers was on the YinYang symbol because of the way it balances itself out. Maybe it goes here, maybe not or maybe nowhere at all. Maybe its better plotted onto the Torus skin along with the circuits. This would show a shearing of chromatic scale where you have the shearing of the 1,2,4,8,7,5 --- 5,7,8,4,2,1. Shearing music is interesting, and might be relevant to the fact that you can cancel out a sound with its mirror opposite. They make silent helicopters like this, the acceleration sound is recorded in an on board computer reflected and then blasted out speakers built into the outside of the chopper body to cancel out the sound of the chopper as it starts and flies. Maybe its the signature resonance of the stone block that needs to be reversed and played back to it with a small orchestra of horns,pipes and flutes, basically instruments that generate nice logarithmically vortexed sound like didjeridoos maybe. Might have to calculate the atomic resonance of the stones atoms, maybe choose a nice resonant slab of red granite, find the resonance, multiply it by the geometric volume of the slab atoms, convert it to chromatic scale, reverse it, start the tune and see if it gets lighter?? Makes you think, if nature is manifested, it must be a type of balanced imbalance, or else it would all just balance as 9. Maybe thats why the Buddhist Dorje (in tibetan) or Vajra (Sanscrit) are uneven little sceptors, those things humanities lamas use in religious spiritual ceremonies, vajra means diamond-thunderbolt. Anyway, sidetracked again, should look better at how the individual numbers are emanated or left standing in the torus skin by the 9. The C's of each octaves frequency rates do logarithmically progress as 1,2,4,8,7,5. Maybe it simply fits into it like that? [/QUOTE] The groups that come up with the rotating of the triangle with their chromatic notes are... 1) 9,3,6 C G* E (This is the Beginning and the End of this particular chart, sounds Alpha and Omegerish) 2) 1,7,4 C* A F 3) 1,1,1 D A* F* 4) 2,8,5 D* B G 5) 3,9,6 E C G* 6) 5,8,2 F C* A 7) 8,8,8 F* D A 8) 4,7,1 G D* B 9) 3,6,9 G* E C 10) 7,4,1 A F C* 11) 1,1,1 A* F* D 12) 8,5,2 B* G D 13) 9,6,3 C G* E (This marks the end of the 3 side/first half and beginning of the second/6 side of the Yinyang with apex at low 9) 14) 8,2,5 C* A F 15) 8,8,8 D A* F* 16) 7,1,4 D* B G 17) 6,9,3 E C G* 18) 4,1,7 F C* A 19) 1,1,1 F* D A* 20) 5,2,8 G D* B 21) 6,3,9 G* E C 22) 2,5,8 A F C* 23) 8,8,8 A* F* D 24) 1,4,7 B G D* I went round pretty quick so it might have one or 2 numbers out of place, looks ok. You could rotate the whole star around and find weird combinations of 6 notes too, that could be tried. Maybe rotate the triangles at the same time but in opposite directions? A pro muscian should see if it fits with Pythagoras' Circle of Fifths. Could fit the Lo Shu Tones. I think it would be awesome to play these chords on a keyboard, just holding them down with delay for 1 or 2 seconds, recording the progression through the 24 combinations of chords you will find in 2 octaves of keyboard keys, remebering that each chord will come from 2 octaves because the triangle is on notes from a lower and an higher octave. Then you could just progress this tune in higher and higher octaves and see what it sounds like. You would probably need an ultra sound machine from the hospital to play the whole lot, which could have some Solfeggio type healing properties in itself. It would be interesting to see the geometrical Cymatic pattern these chords make in different liquid mediums or sand on a pain of glass. Might get some crop circle type stuff happening, or 64tet grids and 9point stars?? Maybe a progression of polygonal like geometry. Last edited by skywalker9; 18-11-2009 at 04:21 PM. Reason: a touch
 18-11-2009, 06:15 PM #410 sadukan Senior Member   Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ERY(UK) Posts: 137 Likes: 1 (1 Post) Lo Shu + Surya Yantra I just wanted to show you guys more about some traditional number systems and ask whether you think so-called "magic squares" have any relevance to "Rodinometry"? Surya Yantra I think with this kind of thing we are at risk of becoming too "esoteric" or even "occult" - but I think it's interesting to explore such avenues and see what (if any) relevance they can offer for our purposes. sadukan. "over it is 19"[74:30] (DiYu - 18 Levels of Hell) Philip LeMarchand
 19-11-2009, 04:28 AM #411 mane Senior Member   Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 205 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) mmm color and music. It's awesome how these differing elements are unified by the Rodin mod9 system as patterns of energy itself. What threshold defines the quality of the energy one perceives? Is it evolutionary, say, for survival that we perceive energy in certain qualities? If so, then what are the implications within the evolution of consciousness in realizing the underlying unification of the senses? Is the realization of such unification a sense in itself, as a higher awareness of energy--frequency? __________________ M1 Creations blog
 19-11-2009, 06:01 AM #412 mane Senior Member   Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 205 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) a look at frequency. "Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit time. It is also referred to as temporal frequency. The period is the duration of one cycle in a repeating event, so the period is the reciprocal of the frequency." "A small window of frequencies, called the visible spectrum or light, is sensed by the eye of various organisms, with variations of the limits of this narrow spectrum." "As a signal perceived by one of the major senses, sound is used by many species for detecting danger, navigation, predation, and communication." We have evolved to perceive certain ranges of frequencies for a quality of energy that will permit survival. "The occipital lobe is the visual processing center of the mammalian brain containing most of the anatomical region of the visual cortex." We've got some evolving to do. Senses. "Senses are the physiological methods of perception." "A system that consists of a group of sensory cell types that responds to a specific physical phenomenon, and that corresponds to a particular group of regions within the brain where the signals are received and interpreted." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense#Touch Tangents... This brings me to the topic of orbs, and entities that operate beyond our perceptions of the visual spectrum, and other modes of sense for the matter. Maybe these entities have evolved and conversely transcended this dense plane by the mode of their perception. Perhaps death is a release of our ties to this particular mode of perception. Anyhow, I feel that the systems of thought we are exploring are the foundation for the next evolutionary mode of perception, whereby different frequencies of reality might be perceived. It's like, don't jump without firm grounding. We're developing a firm grounding for the quantum leap. *edit, another thought Perhaps we engage a certain life form to learn something fundamental to functioning on a higher level of being, as consciousness builds on itself. So life started with the most fundamental of functions, with action reaction consciousness, then took single cell form, to complex organisms, and so on. As we ensue, if we don't learn the proper lesson, then we are stuck at that certain level, because learning the lesson is necessary to the perception, or function on higher levels of consciousness. We graduate through levels of life's university, so to speak, living through certain forms in the name of fascination--the gravity of love. Think of entities recognized as Jesus or Buddha, and the level at which their being in consciousness functions. Their fulcrum is tuned into the most high--a circle completed, as their state is equivalent to that of the alpha and omega--the singularity of nothing and everything; a divine incarnation. __________________ M1 Creations blog Last edited by mane; 19-11-2009 at 06:37 AM.
 19-11-2009, 06:53 AM #413 mane Senior Member   Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 205 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) just came across this.. "As humans, we exist within the 49th Octave of Vibration of the electromagnetic light spectrum. Below this range are barely visible radiant heat, then invisible infrared, television and radiowaves, sound and brain waves; above it is barely visible ultraviolet, then the invisible frequencies of chemicals and perfumes, followed by x-rays, gamma rays, radium rays and unknown cosmic rays[26] Understanding existence and physical form as an interpretation of light energy through the physical eyes will open up greater potential to explore the energetic boundaries of color, form and light that are perceived as immediate reality. Indian Yogic teachings assign to the seven major chakras specific qualities, such as color of influence (from the 7 rays of spectrum light), elements (such as earth, air, water & ether), body sense (such as touch, taste, and smell), and relation to an endocrine gland" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#...ctrum_of_Light I wonder how the chakra system applies to the rodin mod9 system. __________________ M1 Creations blog
 19-11-2009, 08:42 PM #414 skywalker9 Member   Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) I have been trying to boil down the magic squares for ages with no real success. I know Jose Arguelles in his Mayan Factor has some interesting link with the 64 I ching square, Magic8 and the centre of the Mayan calendar, but to the Rodin maths no idea ay. The magic squares all have a designated planet for creating amulets, maybe the musical note of the planets could fit it in to the Rodin maths through the chromatic scale/fibonacci link? Maybe the magic squares represent more complex harmonic resonance relationships with the music of these spheres. The physical senses are totally limiting our complete perception according to the yogis. We have much clearer senses in that unique vivid dreamtime that comes once in a while, espeacially for kids that arn't so conditioned. Maybe meditation, lucid dreaming and less alcohol is the key to being gifted with the ability to see a broader band of the spectrum? I think this would be more of the case than extra physical evolution. Maybe aliens became small with big heads because their technology did so much for them for so long their bodies started to shrivel up abit from lack of use, who knows, they're cool little guys anyway. This book is encrusted with gems for lucid training 'Tibetan Yogas Of Dream And Sleep by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche' This link taps into a site with info on some interesting substances to enhance lucidity for more serious divers. http://grasshopperx.com/dreams/lucid...ing-20-part-1/ Last edited by skywalker9; 19-11-2009 at 09:08 PM.
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 Originally Posted by mane just came across this.. "As humans, we exist within the 49th Octave of Vibration of the electromagnetic light spectrum. Below this range are barely visible radiant heat, then invisible infrared, television and radiowaves, sound and brain waves; above it is barely visible ultraviolet, then the invisible frequencies of chemicals and perfumes, followed by x-rays, gamma rays, radium rays and unknown cosmic rays[26]
That's just what our eyes are able to detect and brains to decode. Same like saying that we exist from 20-20kHz, because we can hear those freqs. It doesn't make sense.

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 Originally Posted by skywalker9 I have been trying to boil down the magic squares for ages with no real success. I know Jose Arguelles in his Mayan Factor has some interesting link with the 64 I ching square, Magic8 and the centre of the Mayan calendar, but to the Rodin maths no idea ay.
The n=3 square falls beautifully into rodin math, because each row and culumn is formed by one number from each of three groups (1 4 7 , 2 5 8 and 3 6 9) It's like a sudoku.

On one diagonal, you plot the 2 5 8 group (instant 15 sum). On other, you plot such values, they grow by one, because 2 5 8 is growing. If you plot from top left to bottom right 2, 5, 8, you "plot" from bottom left to top right 4, 5 already there, 6. Then just fill out the rest 4 spots.

Once you see the pattern, it's really no big deal, IF you know the Rodin's math.

The pattern in bigger squares is, imo, the same.

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 19-11-2009, 11:20 PM #417 plainsight Senior Member   Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 269 Likes: 0 (0 Posts) And here's something "new" to crack: The "magic square of the sun". http://www.redicecreations.com/speci...rowley666.html To understand why 666 is a magick number of the Sun, we must turn to the sacred teachings of the Hebrew Kabbalah where it is taught that the sphere of the Sun is the sixth emanation from the pure essence of God. To express this concept mathematically (something Kabbalists love to do) a square is composed of 36 squares (6 x 6). The numbers 1 to 36 are then arranged in a balanced way so that every row and every column add to the same number. That number is 111, and the sum of all the squares is 666." 666=9, 6*6=9
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 Originally Posted by plainsight And here's something "new" to crack: The "magic square of the sun". http://www.redicecreations.com/speci...rowley666.html To understand why 666 is a magick number of the Sun, we must turn to the sacred teachings of the Hebrew Kabbalah where it is taught that the sphere of the Sun is the sixth emanation from the pure essence of God. To express this concept mathematically (something Kabbalists love to do) a square is composed of 36 squares (6 x 6). The numbers 1 to 36 are then arranged in a balanced way so that every row and every column add to the same number. That number is 111, and the sum of all the squares is 666." 666=9, 6*6=9
Here's something I made a couple of years ago which seems highly relevant to this example:

There are similar dynamics here with 666 as total and 111 as axial lines through zero, as well as any pair of arbitrary rotationally symmetric triples also at 111.
Try adding a radially symmetric pair of the small numbers in the white triangles together and you get 111 every time, though the triples don't have to be adjacent for this to work - just radially/rotationally symmetric.
So it seems that any symmetric array of 6 tiles will sum to 111.

There are also arithmetic parallels each side of a vertical mirror axis, such that:

eg,

(4)+[6]=(10)
(27)+[6]=(33)

or,

(16)+[19]=(35)
(2)+[19]=(21)

How I arrived at this was actually indirectly from a coding of the Flower of Life based on the numbers 1-37 rather than 0-36.

The original website was a Geocities profile and I can't seem to find another example of that particular coding anywhere. It had an interesting property in that equilateral groups of 6 tiles summed to 114.

114 is the number of suras (chapters) in the Koran.
114 reduces to 6.
114=19x6.

I recall that "19" was the central number of that 1-37 coding pattern.
In the Koran it specifically states that: "Over it, is 19" [74:30].

The number "19" is also very important to the Bahai Faith - to which Rodin himself has an affiliation.

We are beginning to uncover the "gematria" basis (or perhaps extrapolation) of this stuff.
Rodin mentioned this in his video presentations, though I have not seen this demonstrated in detail anywhere before.

Another notable feature is the number 37.
In the above tiling, any tile and its associated opposing tile sum to 37. This seems to suggest that the central zero is also equal to 37, or at least its "other half" - intreging. If we take the zero to represent all of the grid, we'd have 37+666=703/37=19=>10=>1.

Here is a simple binary example of this "37" aspect:

000
001
010
011
100
101
110
111+
-----
= 444 => 444/[37] = 12

The result will always be a multiple of 37 for any 3-digit number.
(sum all permutations of a given 3-digit number)

eg, "147":

147
174
417
471
714
741+
-----
= 2664 => 2664/[37] = 72

The "Oracles of Zoroaster" may also be involved, like in this post I found on another forum.
This also ties in to the Solfeggio stuff too.

Remember that the Vector Equilibrium has 36 vectors - 24 edge vectors and 12 radial vectors.

With regard to relevance towards "Rodinometry", I would caution getting too bogged down into the various "gematria calculators" that can be found all over the web. My main focus with gematria is not necessarily the number values as such, but the underlying geometry of the metaconstructs involved. Once the correct constructural relationships are in place, then the numbers will take care of themselves.

So far with my article I am looking at combining Hebrew, Greek, Arabic, Tibetan and Sanskrit into a coherent system with Dogon Metaphysics as the underlying basis.

PS I can understand if you guys don't want to "get your hands dirty" with gematria, since it can quickly become a veritable abyss.

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PPS I just noticed that the bit reduced values of each hexagonal tile when combined with the opposing tile, all sum to 10, which then of course reduces to 1. Similarly, the white adjacent triples sum to 12 or 3 when combined and bit reduced in the same manner. So, one paired tile makes a "1"; three paired tiles makes "3"... notice a pattern emerging here?

"over it is 19"[74:30]
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 Originally Posted by plainsight That's just what our eyes are able to detect and brains to decode. Same like saying that we exist from 20-20kHz, because we can hear those freqs. It doesn't make sense.
That's not how I interpreted the writing, but I agree the language could be reworked. Exist is an ultimate word. Experience might suit the notion better, but at any rate, I'm sure you see where I was going with it.
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