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Old 27-12-2008, 01:16 PM   #401
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heh this music RAP and HIP HOP. is all a ploy for simple minds to make associations into the DUMB everyday shit that there life is.

i cant stand hip hop or rap music. and that is my own oppinion.

I know that HEAVY METAL, METAL, ROCK, extreme music. holds the most intellegent people in the world. and before you comment. i suggest you even attempt to listen to this. you probably wont understand the vocals because there all HORSE and DEATH like. but this is for a reason. once your ears are open to recieving you will hear the message. now the metal genre is still the biggest around the world and hasnt gone anywere.the loyalty and support for METAL will always be around. just admit it people. HEAVY METAL reigns supreme

there is no skill in "pressing play on the cd or loop machine" to have it go DOOF DOOF CLAP DOOF DOOF CLAP and then start to teach some mundane message about how my bitch got banged up and now i gotta kid but the welfare check didnt come in so i gotta go rob a cabbie or the store down the street" if you are taken by that shit. you truely are shallow.

this is so BUDGET its NO SKILL, NO TALENT, NO REAL MESSAGE, and ultimatly leads to violence and drug addctions/abuse and or child abuse. bullying and all that dreadful stuff tha comes with BEING A TUFF GANGSTER RAPPER.

jesus this stuff has to stop. its crap.

there is endless skill in playing DRUMS.. they are a real instrument.
there is endless skill in playing GUITARS/BASS they are a real instrument

heavy metal has the most extreme tallent and skill you have ever seen or heard of. just because you havnt heard it dont mean its there. have a look.
to have all this colaberated into music that you may hear like METALLICA or other forms of EDGE OF THE METAL INDUSTRY that people think are HEAVY METAL and the best of it. rubbish this is the SELLIGN OUT to the money side of music. real musicians will do this with or without money. even marylin manson is a weak lame not much to it kind of METAL.

comon people. im actually quiet happy not wanting people like you in the metal scene because you would just exploit it and compete among it and pull it apart until others hate it because of what you've done 2 it.

im not keen on rap either but this is full of shit!
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Old 27-12-2008, 01:47 PM   #402
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It's a fucking *story*.

God, I don't know why I'm even bothering.
then don't bother, you aint gotta field this guys corner, you like his stuff fine, you dont like it, fine.

But you can say whatever you like. You'll only see what you want to.

i think you've told me that before

And we all see what we want to see, sometimes we see things that we don't want to see and it makes us react.

And no, he rips up bibles and takes the piss out of the church because it is a statement that says 'These things are full of shit' and that is what he tries to open people's eyes to. The hypocrisy.

But the hypocrosy is the church, it isn't the bible. Ok the bible is a tool of the church, mostly missconstrued and a very bastardised version of the original, but there is still beuty within that. So castigating one forum castigates the whole, saying fuck this it's a tool and fuck that, it's another tool blatantly ignores the message that Christ came here with.

This stance then against the bible, which is it:

standing against the bible and its teachings = standing against Christ's message, 'be nice to people and drink wine' which is pretty much what he said.

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standing against the bible = standing against the church and its , kill in the name of god, that's ok, but thoust shalt not commit murder hypocrosy?

Because i wonder how many people know the difference between the biblical Christ and Christ consciousness.

The Church kinda ignore Christs message also though. I'm not a big 'Christ according to the bible' fan. I do appreciate Christ consciousness, which is a very different thing. So is Manson attacking the Biblical Christ or his he attacking Christ consciousness, or both?

If he is attacking Christ consciousness, then he is, in the form of his art, attacking every good, loving aspect we hold within us. I don't think that he is saying that.

Yeah, the hypocrosy he is flipping a finger to, fine, the machine needs to be bought into focus, hiding as it is behind the skirts of the pious.

That is what i see, so comaboy, is that what you see? Because it is a difficult distinction to make.

People are getting confused as to what the bible means to who, here.
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Old 27-12-2008, 01:53 PM   #403
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then don't bother, you aint gotta field this guys corner, you like his stuff fine, you dont like it, fine.

But you can say whatever you like. You'll only see what you want to.

i think you've told me that before

And we all see what we want to see, sometimes we see things that we don't want to see and it makes us react.

And no, he rips up bibles and takes the piss out of the church because it is a statement that says 'These things are full of shit' and that is what he tries to open people's eyes to. The hypocrisy.

But the hypocrosy is the church, it isn't the bible. Ok the bible is a tool of the church, mostly missconstrued and a very bastardised version of the original, but there is still beuty within that. So castigating one forum castigates the whole, saying fuck this it's a tool and fuck that, it's another tool blatantly ignores the message that Christ came here with.

This stance then against the bible, which is it:

standing against the bible and its teachings = standing against Christ's message, 'be nice to people and drink wine' which is pretty much what he said.

Or

standing against the bible = standing against the church and its , kill in the name of god, that's ok, but thoust shalt not commit murder hypocrosy?

Because i wonder how many people know the difference between the biblical Christ and Christ consciousness.

The Church kinda ignore Christs message also though. I'm not a big 'Christ according to the bible' fan. I do appreciate Christ consciousness, which is a very different thing. So is Manson attacking the Biblical Christ or his he attacking Christ consciousness, or both?

If he is attacking Christ consciousness, then he is, in the form of his art, attacking every good, loving aspect we hold within us. I don't think that he is saying that.

Yeah, the hypocrosy he is flipping a finger to, fine, the machine needs to be bought into focus, hiding as it is behind the skirts of the pious.

That is what i see, so comaboy, is that what you see? Because it is a difficult distinction to make.

People are getting confused as to what the bible means to who, here.
Something makes me think we're both sort of arguing the same point :P
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Old 27-12-2008, 02:00 PM   #404
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The only place he'd guide anyone is off a cliff.
*chuckles*


and ashyr, mainstream hip hop (not rap) is full of shit but underground rap- such as the likes of immortal technique, sole etc (even talib kweli) is actually very intelligent prose that makes you think. it isn't all about money, hoes, whips/rides (cars) and rocks (jewels). the mainstream stuff is pushed by illuminati supported record labels.
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Old 27-12-2008, 03:00 PM   #405
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the thing is he is not looking to guide people... he is expressing him self..

its only people who require guides them self who will judge him that way.
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Old 27-12-2008, 03:05 PM   #406
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I may have posted this before, if so apologies. I think Marilyn Manson seems rather nice. I know which one of the following I would feel safer staying the night in my spare room:

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the thing is he is not looking to guide people... he is expressing him self..

its only people who require guides them self who will judge him that way.
Perfect post.
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I may have posted this before, if so apologies. I think Marilyn Manson seems rather nice. I know which one of the following I would feel safer staying the night in my spare room:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ucnA8ElvZQA
interesting vid thanks....

sometimes he will interview another stooge just to present them.... kind of pretend to disagree... but as i say, I cant really see how MM making sense on that interview can be anything other than what it was... I think O Reilly looked a bit nervous as if he did not want to much to be ..said...

people dont like to be exposed them sevles.. its always something else to blame.... people kill because of a rock stars songs ..not because they are sick to the teeth of society and have a lousy parents...

so we have to take away freedom of art and expression because we live in such a fucked up world?

in that case who cares about chaos anyway?.. if we are so irresponsible we cant have freedom of art then we will not be a loss.

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Old 27-12-2008, 04:20 PM   #409
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Something makes me think we're both sort of arguing the same point :P
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Fruits, fruits.
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Fruits, fruits.
I believe there's an innocence destroying billboard that is worth getting 'het up' about in another thread. You'd better go deal with it.
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I believe there's an innocence destroying billboard that is worth getting 'het up' about in another thread. You'd better go deal with it.
We see Manson as one thing, and the billboard as another, when really they are the same thing - big brother trying to shock us, trying to affect a reasoning mind into locked-down chaos where there are no sub frames to judge morality by.

However we look at the world, whatever eyes we view it through it is becoming less sensitive and more de-sensitized by the media's manipulation of our conscious and subconscious minds.

The internet is a hive for de-sensitizing the populous; it brings home the adult world into every home, into every child’s psyche, drawing the attention to forbidden fruits.

Can we see manson’s ilk and the media as the temptations in our garden of Eden?

I'm not against the billboard, i'm not against manson, but children don't need this kind of stuff pushed into their faces.

Anyone can, if they choose, log into the web and download pretty much anything that they want to watch. We can download porn, pictures of naked people, music video's, mpg's of people being brutally murdered, I’m sure if we type it into google then pretty much anything will be there to be viewed.

And why is this so?

The game plan is afoot here, we have Manson saying, hey fu(k the system, rebel, don't believe in all this croc, think for yourself. And all the time he is saying think for yourself, are people thinking for themselves or are they thinking what Manson, and any other member of the pop culture tells them they should be thinking?

We have graphic images tunnelled into our home every day through the internet and through the media. And we even have billboards advertising sex aids and cards for sexual services in phone boxes. All these images, all these pop stars and media people telling us what to think, how to act.

The sole consensus of all this is a de-sensitising of our minds, and in particular our children’s minds - de-sensitise them in their formative years.

Consider also that kids' play areas in the uk are almost all surrounded by high fences, getting the kids used to being contained.

So where does all that lead? It leads to a state where tptb can control a populous because they are used to being contained and controlled, the fence has been there for so long they can’t see a world without it.

And the same in the de-sensitizing arena. Hey we’ve seen those videos of Iraqi prisoners being mutilated, seen the videos of beheadings, seen the war machine on the news, so when they look out the windows of their eyes and see these things happening in the real world all around them they will think it is all acceptable. Because they have been de-sensitized to it all.

I live just outside of Nottingham, apparently we have the highest knife crime rate in the country. BS. Nottingham isn’t so bad, it has a gang culture just like any other major city but it isn’t the worst by far. But general youth opinion is that they need to carry a knife, they need to be tooled up. To them it is normal, it is, as they say, ‘Gangster’. The media have pushed the gangster thing into their faces and they have taken it into the lives. Gangsters carrying guns around, it was on the news so it must be true, lets go get a gun so we can be like them.

Manson doesn’t realise that he’s being used to de-sensitize a culture, he just wants to earn a few $’s.

But Manson just adds to the play, he furthers the whole agenda of divide and conquer, in a tiny almost insignificant way, he tells people don’t believe in that, believe in this.

We may be on the same page as seeing Manson’s message of ‘Rage Against the Machine and its control over our minds’, but he is still a tool in the machine, helping it to run.

His stand against the bible and Christ is one thing, I don’t think that he is standing against love or purity, just that he is standing against control of any kind.

Freedom of speech and freedom of information is a good thing, but in a world that is geared by the media to lust for sick or warped viewpoints don’t you think there needs to be an injection of morality to counter balance those aspects?
Morality isn’t taught in the home, it isn’t taught in school, you don’t see billboards expressing morality except outside churches.

And people don’t want morality, because having morality means that they might have to think for themselves, they might have to make their own decisions. And that scares them. People would rather believe in what they are told to believe in by the media.

Society has very little moral code.

And what moral code it has left is being manipulated out of existence through billboard advertisements, and an open interface that allows us to view the most despicable and sickest aspects of human nature in order to de-sensitize our minds to those horrors and make the global populous accept terror and horror more readily when that happens.

Manson’s shock tactics fuel an ever more greedy hunger for shock and outrage. The public almost demands that of anyone caught in the media’s spotlight, it has become not only accepted but expected.

every aspect of life is being and has been manipulated by the media. Manson is a part of the media, the media makes and breaks, i wonder if manson has had his day, i wonder when they will decide to break him?

Some people will be shocked and offended by manson and some will not.

Some people will be shocked and offended by that billboard and some will not.

So, does Manson and does this billboard limit our freedoms by de-sensitizing us in some way, or do they expand our freedoms by declaring that we should have an open mind.

I think Manson, ripping up the bible and defiling pictures of Christ, pertaining to say, leave this mind control behind, have an open mind, actually instills a closed mind state into anyone silly enough to listen to his message. In the same way that this billboard advert pushes SEX SEX SEX into the minds of every passing person, whose kids will look up and see it, 'look mommy, what does that sign mean?, then that sign closes down inocense, denies them the beauty of being a child by pluging that a childs mind directly into the adult world. Manson closes down choice, denies people a beutiful experience of seeing Christ outside of a biblical text because people don't give themselves the opportunity to see Christ as a consciousness energy because their association can not distinguish between the two.

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But Manson just adds to the play, he furthers the whole agenda of divide and conquer, in a tiny almost insignificant way, he tells people don’t believe in that, believe in this.
No he doesn't. He says question everything. Maybe some more reading is in order.
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We may be on the same page as seeing Manson’s message of ‘Rage Against the Machine and its control over our minds’, but he is still a tool in the machine, helping it to run.
Yeah along with Will Smith, the Pussycat Dolls, Janis Joplin, and Bill Cosby, I'm sure.

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His stand against the bible and Christ is one thing, I don’t think that he is standing against love or purity, just that he is standing against control of any kind.
That is entirely contradictory to your 'believe in this!' statement, above.

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I think Manson, ripping up the bible and defiling pictures of Christ, pertaining to say, leave this mind control behind, have an open mind, actually instills a closed mind state into anyone silly enough to listen to his message. In the same way that this billboard advert pushes SEX SEX SEX into the minds of every passing person, whose kids will look up and see it, 'look mommy, what does that sign mean?, then that sign closes down inocense, denies them the beauty of being a child by pluging that a childs mind directly into the adult world. Manson closes down choice, denies people a beutiful experience of seeing Christ outside of a biblical text because people don't give themselves the opportunity to see Christ as a consciousness energy because their association can not distinguish between the two.
Oh for christs sake, he never defiled pictures of Christ.

He has painted him, though.



It is called 'Trismestigus'.

Go read some interviews or something. You're also terribly uninformed. Sorry, but you are.

Here. I'll start you off.

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"Our destiny exercises its influence over us even when, as yet, we have not learned its nature: it is our future that lays down the law of our today." -- Friedrich Nietzsche, 1878

"The lyrics and ideals expressed on this album are those of a character called Anitchrist Superstar, who is portrayed by me and every other person in America. Those who fail to admit and realize this are the ones who will be afraid and offended. This is what you should fear; you are what you should fear."

Marilyn Manson, whose rise to the national spotlight this year with their hellbent cover of the Eurythmics' "Sweet Dreams," have always been a band true to their heart and blackened souls. On their latest release, Antichrist Superstar, which debuted at No. 3 on the Billboard charts earlier this month, Mr. Manson and company -- bassist Twiggy Ramirez, keyboardist Madonna Wayne Gacy, drummer Ginger Fish and newest recruit, guitarist Zim Zum -- have created an introspective and real life fright show that will make you sweat and smile at the same time.

On such songs as the bludgeoning "Irresponsible Hate Anthem," the introspective ranting and raving of "Wormboy" and "Mister Superstar," and even MTV's newest buzz, "The Beautiful People," Manson's agression and vulnerability walk hand in hand as we stroll through the psyche of the man himself. It's as if someone were ripping at Manson's very scarred seams and stretching his flesh in order to allow the darkness within to fly free and enlighten the masses.

Shedding the S&M inspired wardrobe and looking past the wair-like, acutely scarred and heavily inked body of Manson, The Aquarian Weekly attempted to get into the brain of the madman behind the band. What we found was not the ranting and raving of a Satan worshipping demon that the mainstream press has made him out to be, but instead an intelligent, insightful artist, who is more interested in Nietzsche (whose book Antichrist seems to have inspired Manson), human sexuality and self-expression, than human sacrafice, voodoo, and lucifer.

Aquarian Weekly:
In the past you have been very frank about your rejection of all forms of organized religion, especially on Antichrist Superstar. Can you speak a little about why that is?
Marilyn Manson:
I promote individuality and belief in yourself. Most organized religions promote weakness and blind faith in things you can't see. So Antichrist Superstar is a manifesto of self-expression much along the lines of Nietzsche and Darwin. People of that nature who promote the belief of man as his own god.
Aquarian Weekly:
Then you believe that each person is their own creator and has the ability to control their own lives and outcomes.
Marilyn Manson:
Everybody has the potential to be their own god. It just takes writers, philosophers, music, and others to get them to realize that. However, I do believe there is a greater force in nature, but you don't necessarily have to worship it.
Aquarian Weekly:
You were talking before about Darwin and Darwinism, whick in theory suggests that only the strong survive. Yet in a lot of your music you take the opposite approach, usually taking up the cause of the alienated against the oppressor.
Marilyn Manson:
I think (the theories of Darwin and Nietzsche) promote a need and a want to be a stronger person. I think that is a lot of the underlying themes behind everything on the new album. I use the metaphor of a worm that grows into an angel and it's the same transformation from being someone who is suppressed to being someone who is no longer suppressed but rather empowered.
Aquarian Weekly:
Was there a turning point in your life that you said, "Hey, I'm not going to take anyone's crap anymore, I'm going to be me."
Marilyn Manson:
I dont't think there was any one moment, I think it was a gradual building and realizing that I didn't want to fit into the status quo. I was going to make my own status quo. I would rather make my own status quo for others to have to fit into.
Aquarian Weekly:
In a sense through your music, you are now promoting individualism. Trying to let people know that they can be different as long as they are themselves.
Marilyn Manson:
Yes, and I'm saying that if you want to be like me, be yourself, because that's what I'm being. So it's a group of nonjoiners, like a club with no members.
Aquarian Weekly:
When I mentioned our interview to my sister, she asked if I was going to be afraid of you. At times, you're perceived to be the epitome of fear, you give off a violent, almost scay public persona. Are you afraid people will prejudge you by your image?
Marilyn Manson:
I like to look at people's fear and my own fear so that I can better understand it. So when people see things and listen to things that I do and it scares them, then they should be asking themselves why it scares them. Why does it bother them, why does it offend them, why does it scare them?
Marilyn Manson:
Maybe they can learn a little bit about themselves by addressing those fears. I'm not afraid of anything. If there is something I'm afraid of I do it and then I'm not afraid of it anymore.
Aquarian Weekly:
How about the fear of failure as a musician?
Marilyn Manson:
That's really my only fear and it's an everyday battle to be in control and succeed with what I want to do.
Aquarian Weekly:
As a musician, you are one part recording artist and another part stage performer. Marilyn Manson as a band seem to excel during live shows. Speak a little about why that is.
Marilyn Manson:
That's the most important thing to me really. An album is just a blueprint for a live performance. It's very ritualistic, very theraputic and there is a lot of energy exchanged between the audience and the band. It's a powerful thing to tap into. It's one of the oldest things in the history of man, that interchange between one person and the people that are attracted to what they are doing. That's why we enjoy touring so much.
Aquarian Weekly:
Your live performances seem to not only be an entertaining show, but also a purging of your soul as well.
Marilyn Manson:
I would say that it's an exorcism, not only an exercise but an exorcism. It's getting everything out. I think that other people can enjoy that as well, because it makes them feel like they can get everything out too. It makes them feel like it's ok to be yourself and do what you want.
Aquarian Weekly:
You mentioned before how a lot of your music is based on real life experience and self-expression, individuality and the alienation that sometimes comes attached to being an individual in a cookie cutter society. Speak a little about that.
Marilyn Manson:
I went to a private Christian school and I didn't really buy into the whole born again idea, so I wasn't friends with too many kids there. I wanted to go to public school, but all the kids there kicked my ass because I was the kid from private school, so I didn't fit in there either. I couldn't win either way, so I decided that instead of feeling alienated I would one day strive to create my own set of standards and the rest of the world could work around me.
Aquarian Weekly:
Now that you are working on your own terms, is there any pressure to tone down the act because you are starting to get more mainstream radio and MTV airplay?
Marilyn Manson:
No, I think that now is the time to turn up the gas and make it more dangerous, push the fast forward button to the end of the world and go as far as we can go. A lot of people go most of the way, but the only way that you can reach perfection and purity is to go all the way. And that's really what America needs. Because everything is so common and desensitized. People aren't even impressed by sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll anymore, so it needs to go as far as it can go so that people can once again appreciate the little things in life. They can re-obtain their innocence, be a kid again.
Aquarian Weekly:
You're definately not innocent now. Do you feel that the point where you decided to not be alienated anymore and decided to be, in a sense, the alienator was where you lost your innocence?
Marilyn Manson:
No, I think my loss of innocence was one of the things that helped to develop the hard shell around me. If you follow the transformation of the lyrics on the new album there is a metaphor that I use of a worm that is very vulnerable that forms this hard cocoon around it and becomes this angel which thinks it is beautiful, but the rest of the world around it thinks it is very ugly. That in itself is a bit of vulnerability and that is where I have been over the past several years. The final result is coming to terms with power and this almost other identity, the Antichrist Superstar, emerges and that's what things are developing into. The album itself is my story, it tells the beginning to the end, but we haven't gotten to the end yet, so it's a bit of a prophecy. Sexuality and sexual imagery are recurring themes in the music of Marilyn Manson. Why do you think that you are so fascinated with sex and why does it play such an important role in your music? It's probably due to the way that I grew up. My first experience with sex was seeing my grandfather's collection or pornography. It was more out of the ordinary, more deviant, with photographs of women and animals, and he had a lot of lingerie and stuff that he used to wear under his clothes. So, I had a strange introduction to the world of sex. Then as a teenager there was the pressure of losing your virginity and it became a real obsession of mine.
Aquarian Weekly:
Speak a little bit about the people who claim your music is a little too sexually explicit, or who claim it's unhealthy for kids to listen to. Speak out to the Christian Coalition and the C. Delores Tuckers of the world who try to censor the music of Marilyn Manson.
Marilyn Manson:
A lot of times the people who had a knee jerk reaction are not only playing into my trap but are also missing the point that I was making in the first place. A lot of the references on Smells Like Children were about my own childhood and about views on use and abuse. Those were missed by them because they interpret them on a base level and actually on more of a pornographic level than they were intended to be interpreted. An example that I like to use is that on our first album I wanted to put a photograph of me as a child posing nude on a couch. My mother took the photograph. And I was told by the executives of Time-Warner, the company that used to distribute our albums, that it would be considered child pornography and I said, "Why? It's a perfectly innocent photograph," and they said, "Well if it can elicit some sort of sexual arousal then it is child pornography." And I said, "Well, that's the point of me putting it here. It's innocent unless you make it something else." That's a lot of the points that I try to make. If people see something as being sick, they have to have that sickness in their own head to see it as sick in the first place.
Aquarian Weekly:
So do you believe that the people who are the most outspoken and disgusted by sexuality and deviant sex are in fact the ones that are most fixated with it?
Marilyn Manson:
People always hate what they are afraid of, and they're usually afraid of Marilyn Manson because they see themselves in it. People who aren't willint to admit that they have these same emotions and experiences are going to be the ones that are the most offended by it. It's hard for them to accept the fact that they are just like everyone else.
Aquarian Weekly:
Are you afraid of being pigeonholed as the next Alice Cooper, or as the next shock rocker?
Marilyn Manson:
If I wanted to be shocking or offensive, that would be easy, because it is such an easy thing to be. I could be so much more offensive. I do things on my terms and sometimes they are more extreme than most people would like, but shock value is never my point. I am expressing what is on my mind and i say it like I want to say it.
Aquarian Weekly:
In the past you have criticized television and especially talk shows for creating an unreal view of American society. Speak a little about why you feel that way.
Marilyn Manson:
The talk show is kind of synonymous the whole bullshit of political correctness in America. You have people on talk shows saying "I hate you because you're a racist" and that's a contradiction because they are being racist by saying that. And there are people saying "I hate this guy because he hates me." It's just a never ending circle and my point has always been that neither side is ever right and nobody wants to solve the problem and the problem is, if people were more intelligent then there wouldn't be so many arguments. In a perfect world the criterion for anything would be intelligence. Sexism and racism are too lenient for me because I could never say that I like all men because I don't. I could never say that I like all white people because there are plenty who don't deserve to be liked. I think intelligence is really the bottom line. Often times it's the unintelligent who are the first to make snap decisions about people or music or anything for that matter.
Aquarian Weekly:
Are you afraid that those people are going to get the wrong impressions of the band because of your music and your public persona?
Marilyn Manson:
That's the way it has always been with the band: people need to read between the lines to get the real message. I don't ever worry about people's perceptions, because they either get it or they don't. I like more extreme reactions anyway. I want people to either love us or hate us. I don't want anything in between and over the years I found out that's where most people are. I always used to say that there were two types of people: people who love Marilyn Manson and people who are jealous.
Aquarian Weekly:
Where do you go from here, whats the next step?
Marilyn Manson:
I just plan to keep on getting bigger and bigger and just doing something real productive with our popularity. I believe that there is a real strength to utilize. The things that change society have always been art and music; they have never been politics. So we'll just continue to prove that.
For more, go here.

http://www.mansonusa.com/interviews/?by=era
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Old 07-01-2009, 05:30 PM   #414
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All those who call me names and lick Manson's scrotum and bum hole.
Maybe he'll let you piss in his mouth for being so loyal, like his band membes did. Or you could change your name to that of a Satanic serial killer like Mansons and his band did.

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I may have posted this before, if so apologies. I think Marilyn Manson seems rather nice. I know which one of the following I would feel safer staying the night in my spare room:


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ucnA8ElvZQA
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the thing is he is not looking to guide people... he is expressing him self..

its only people who require guides them self who will judge him that way.
Come off it I was born at night but it wasn't last night. He's a high ranked member of Church of Satan and is pushing their philosophies and spiel. A child of Hollyweird.
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Real life is hard, oh my god you can see it on video. What truly makes you hard is seeing it for real.
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I came on here to hopefully converse with like minded/open minded individuals etc but unfortunately come accross homophobic fearful people like eternal_spirit just shits me, forum is still lame though I'm just here for entertainment

eternal_spirit the only thing I have learnt from you is that you're homophobic and maybe you are hiding a dirty secret; you in fact have a secret fascination with MM hence the repeatitive posting and research..

let me guess you blame MM for columbine
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yawn* get a life, you should change your name eternal_bore, sucks to be you dude, I think if there is a God they love MM better than you for having a creative spirit and making the most of his life instead of repeating the same crap over and over on a lame forum/

do the world a favor and PLEASE do not breed OK

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Well now Madamlasher
Converse seems you wanna call names and not discuss the topic. And seeing as though you don't know me from Adam you're about as right as a wrong left turn on a journey somewhere heading in the wrong direction.

Homophobe lol how do you know I'm even straight. The only shit here is what your mind conjures up via your fingers and drops out all over the page, I'll send you some shit stain remover you have a filthy mind. Oh Yeah you're added to my shitlist - the only one on there.

Lame? Well piss off back to what ever satanic forum you came from.

And you misswhiplash are one sick bitch, you may squeeze out a few little piggies or puppies if you can get some man dog to breed with you one day...

Shouldn't you be elsewhere you got some perverts who need whipping?
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