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 29-01-2014, 04:54 PM #1 kaito Senior Member   Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: UK Posts: 950 Likes: 6 (5 Posts) The HAARP Hoax Weather, seasonal climate change, cloud formation, tsunamis, tornados, the Gulf stream, increases/decreases in the area of polar ice etc are all driven and fueled by the seasonal fluctuating energy Earth receives from the Sun during daylight hours. It's average intensity is approx 1300 watts/sq. metre If HAARP is a genuine weapon capable of creating catastophic storms/tsunamis it would need to operate at it's target location with a power rate (Energy consumed/sec/unit area) in the order of magnitude of the Sun ie 1300 watts/m^2. The source of this power would have to be the aggressor country's electrical power grid. I would now ask interested readers of the thread to view a topic at this blog: http://www.colinandrews.net/Cloud-Ra...2010-0122.html If we examine the provenance of this image of the "alleged weather anomaly" we see that it's area is 324297 square miles and it appears to be causing radial cloud formations 643 miles in diameter......(photoshopped onto a map by the hoaxsters.) A gargantuan amount of energy/sec would be needed to cause this event in the order of magnitude of the Sun's climate driving power of 1300 watts/m^2 focused on this area. If we apply this power rate to the area of the anomaly (324297 square miles) we can get a rough idea of the order of magnitude of the power consumption the "fake HAARP weapon" would need to operate at to produce the anomaly. 1 sq. mile = 2589988 sq metres Area of anomaly in sq metres is given by: 324297x2589988=8.34x10^11 sq metres. If we now multiply this area by 1300watts/sq metre we arrive at the order of magnitude of the power this "fake HAARP weapon" would need to consume: 8.34x10^11x 1300 = 10.842x10^14 watts!!!!!!!! The link below........ http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbprojec...d=2010&unit=MK ......informs us that the MAXIMUM generating capability of the Australian Electricity Power Grid in 2010 was 59.134x10^9 watts! If we now take the derived estimated power necessary for "fake HAARP" to function and divide it by the max power output of the Australian electricity grid we get : 10.842x10^14/59.134x10^9=18334.63 ....in other words the order of magnitude of the "fake HAARP's" power consumption would need to be ~18334 times greater than the MAXIMUM OUTPUT OF THE ENTIRE AUSTRALIAN ELECTRICITY GRID!!!!!!.... In fact the power needed appears to exceed the combined maximum power output of every electricity grid on the planet....lmao!!.. Don't be taken in by this HAARP Bull\$hit....it's a \$caremongering Psyop \$cam at the fantasy Physics end of the science spectrum, as is the Nuclear Weapons Hoax. ....... __________________ Meet the New Boss.....same as the Old Boss Truth is Hate for those that Hate the Truth Laugh and the World laughs with you... Troll and the World laughs at you....promise... Last edited by kaito; 29-01-2014 at 05:26 PM.
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Problem is most in this world living in lah, lah

Problem is most in this world living in lah, lah land.

Look at the great ideas people had in June 1928 ........... now its 2014 & most people are totally retarded.

Remarkable European Experiments with Atmospheric Voltage Electrical Discharges with Potentials as High as 3,000,000 Volts

An article about three German studends who experiment with obtaining electrical energy from the air, the methods and the system they use, and how the electrical discharges are measured.
by Henry Townsend, from Science and Invention, June 1928

The above scene shows the remarkable electrical effect which frequently occurs in the Als mountains, where three young German scientists are endeavoring to extract tremendous electrical discharges from the atmosphere. The idea behind these experiments is that man may find a way to disintegrate the atom, and thus unlock a tremendous new source of energy.

BENJAMIN FRANKLIN, fired the imagination of electrical engineers and experimenters all over the world for a century beyond his time, when on an immortal day he demonstrated by means of his kite, that lighting was a natural electrical phenomenon. Every student or electrical ma..ers has at some time or other dreamed of utilizing the gigantic electrical charges which are ever present in the atmosphere surrounding our earth. Several scientist have lost their lives while trying to harness the tremendous electrical discharges in the form of lightning. Last summer and again this summer, three young German scientists, A. Brasch, F. Lange and C. Urban of the University of Berlin, aided by all the latest scientific information as to how to protect themselves, will attempt to measure and chart the atmospheric electrical discharges high up in the Alps.

These daring young scientists found in last summer’s experiments that electrical sparks of great intensity and accompanied with a roar like that of huge cannon, jumped the gap of their apparatas repeatedly, even when no electrical storms were in the vicinity. On several occasions electrical sparks jumped the large gap on an average of one every second for thirty minutes, and these discharges averaged two million volts. A beautiful corona of bluish-green color played around the cable and wire net at night. The cable and net were suspended across the valley between two peaks in the Alps, as the accompanying pictures show. This corona had all the appearances of the Aurora Borealis, that most magnificent electrical display observable in the arctic regions particularly.
http://www.nuenergy.org/harnessing-natures-electricity/

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 Originally Posted by oiram I would say your last comment brings as back exactly where Tesla left us with! Tapping the floor in the literal sense of the word. >>> Tesla the genius!! Tap the floor (ground Earth) a bit with frequency pulses & the earth will tap back to us either through the ground or (atmosphere Heaven)! Earth is the negative charged plate & the atmosphere are the positive plate layers depending the elevation above ground you tap the positive & the tower is the Diode path connected to a capacitor to create usable energy! So the Tesla tower with 50 meter hight should tapped the 5000 volt level?? If you would place the Tesla Dome on the top of the Pyramid in Egypt you would be in the tapping range of between 25,000 to 35,000 Volt !! That's why this system with 2.5 meters = 250 Volt of the ground makes perfectly sense. And with a reversed Tesla coil you invert the power to usable levels. But I'm not sure about there 25Kw statement in the image? .... well there should be some power & we do not know the frequency which could be high? I don't know the calculation?? http://frienergi.alternativkanalen.com Atmospheric electricity Cloud to ground Lightning in the global atmospheric electrical circuit. This is an example of plasma present at Earth's surface. Typically, lightning discharges 30,000 amperes, at up to 100 million volts, and emits light, radio waves, x-rays and even gamma rays .[1] Plasma temperatures in lightning can approach 28,000 kelvins and electron densities may exceed 1024/m3. Atmospheric electricity is the regular diurnal variations of the Earth's atmospheric electromagnetic network or, more broadly, any planet's electrical system in its layer of gases. The Earth's surface, the atmosphere and the ionosphere, together are known as the global atmospheric electrical circuit. Atmospheric electricity is a multidisciplinary topic. There is always free electricity in the air and in the clouds, which acts by induction on the earth and electromagnetic devices.[2] Experiments have shown that there is always free electricity in the atmosphere, which is sometimes negative and sometimes positive, but most generally positive, and the intensity of this free electricity is greater in the middle of the day than at morning or night and is greater in winter than in summer. In fine weather, the potential increases with altitude at about 30 volts per foot (100 V/m).[3] The atmospheric medium, by which we are surrounded, contains not only combined electricity, like every other form of matter, but also a considerable quantity in a free and uncombined state; sometimes of one kind, sometimes of the other; but as a general rule it is always of an opposite kind to that of the Earth. Different layers, or strata, of the atmosphere, located at only small distances from each other, are frequently found to be in different electric states.[4] The phenomena of atmospheric electricity are of three kinds. There are the electrical phenomena of thunderstorms and there are the phenomena of continual electrification in the air.[5] The phenomena of the polar auroras constitute a third branch of the subject.[6] Most authorities are agreed, however, that whatever may be the origin of free electricity in the atmosphere, the electricity of enormous voltages that disrupts the air and produces the phenomena of lightning is due to the condensation of the watery vapor forming the clouds; each minute drop, as it moves through the air, collects upon its surface a certain amount of free electricity. Then, as these tiny drops coalesce into larger drops, with a corresponding decrease in the relative surface exposed, the electric potential rises until it overcomes the resisting power of the air. This remark will be more clearly understood when it is considered that, with a given charge of electricity, an object's potential rises as the electrical capacity of the object holding the charge is decreased, which is the case when the minute drops coalesce into larger drops. The similarity of lightning to the electricity developed by an electrical machine was demonstrated by Franklin in his memorable kite experiments.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_electricity Lightning is electricity, but operates very differently from electrical discharges at the human scale. As lightning forms, it breaks through the air up to ten times easier than small-scale electric arcs, using tricks we don’t yet understand. The problem of understanding "lightning initiation" still confounds world experts in the field. However, recent theories and a bizarre experimental accident suggest that laboratory-scale electric arcs start to gain lightning-like abilities once they grow past about 200ft in length. Our goal is to build a machine that can generate arcs beyond this critical length, and find out what happens. To accomplish this goal we plan to use two 10-story high Tesla Coils -- the largest ever built. At full output power [around four million watts] the coil towers will fill an area the size of a football field with a continuous display of electrical discharges. By carefully adjusting the drive voltage [up to 14 million volts] and the spacing of the towers, we intend to explore this mysterious region where normal electric arcs transform into lightning. 1:12 Scale Model Studying the dynamics of large twin coils We’ve completed a fully functional 1:12 scale prototype for the Lightning Foundry, which we use to study the interactions between the two matched coils, and refine new design ideas. The prototype twin coils often surprise us with wonderfully unexpected behavior, including a strong tendency to couple power wirelessly over large distances. We studied this odd ability in detail, and published a paper on wireless power transfer at the 2008 North American Power Symposium. The 1:12 scale prototype has already performed at several public events including Maker Faire, The Robert Randall Home for Decrepit Mariners, and also at the Integratron, sponsored by the UCLA Art|Sci Center. Photo courtesy of Nick Bilton. http://www.lod.org/Projects/LightningFoundry/LightningFoundry.html Electricity from Orbit? Martin I. Hoffert, Professor Emeritus of Physics and former Chair of the Department of Applied Science at New York University, discusses the cost-effective space solar power (SSP) -- the beaming abundant high-intensity solar power from space though atmospheric windows at laser or microwave frequencies for electric power at the surface and into a grid. The talk was released the past week as a part of the Google Tech Talks [video]. Dr. Hoffert's talk is based upon the Space-Based Solar Power As an Opportunity for Strategic Security by National Security Space Office Interim Assessment Phase 0 Architecture Feasibility Study, October 10, 2007 [Audio]. For more see the Space Power Association. http://spaceports.blogspot.com/2007/12/electricity-from-orbit.html

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29-01-2014, 06:20 PM   #4
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 Originally Posted by oiram Problem is most in this world living in lah, lah land. Look at the great ideas people had in June 1928 ........... now its 2014 & most people are totally retarded. Remarkable European Experiments with Atmospheric Voltage Electrical Discharges with Potentials as High as 3,000,000 Volts An article about three German studends who experiment with obtaining electrical energy from the air, the methods and the system they use, and how the electrical discharges are measured. by Henry Townsend, from Science and Invention, June 1928 The above scene shows the remarkable electrical effect which frequently occurs in the Als mountains, where three young German scientists are endeavoring to extract tremendous electrical discharges from the atmosphere. The idea behind these experiments is that man may find a way to disintegrate the atom, and thus unlock a tremendous new source of energy. BENJAMIN FRANKLIN, fired the imagination of electrical engineers and experimenters all over the world for a century beyond his time, when on an immortal day he demonstrated by means of his kite, that lighting was a natural electrical phenomenon. Every student or electrical ma..ers has at some time or other dreamed of utilizing the gigantic electrical charges which are ever present in the atmosphere surrounding our earth. Several scientist have lost their lives while trying to harness the tremendous electrical discharges in the form of lightning. Last summer and again this summer, three young German scientists, A. Brasch, F. Lange and C. Urban of the University of Berlin, aided by all the latest scientific information as to how to protect themselves, will attempt to measure and chart the atmospheric electrical discharges high up in the Alps. These daring young scientists found in last summer’s experiments that electrical sparks of great intensity and accompanied with a roar like that of huge cannon, jumped the gap of their apparatas repeatedly, even when no electrical storms were in the vicinity. On several occasions electrical sparks jumped the large gap on an average of one every second for thirty minutes, and these discharges averaged two million volts. A beautiful corona of bluish-green color played around the cable and wire net at night. The cable and net were suspended across the valley between two peaks in the Alps, as the accompanying pictures show. This corona had all the appearances of the Aurora Borealis, that most magnificent electrical display observable in the arctic regions particularly. http://www.nuenergy.org/harnessing-natures-electricity/
Nice work there Oiram, here is the magneto effect of the planets inner metallic core spinning faster that its outer periphery, exactly like a field coil generator/alternator in your average family car, Tesla knew this really well and why he was put out to grass.

The energy to activate the flux that passes up to the ionosphere comes from the galactic plane and our sun.

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29-01-2014, 06:53 PM   #5
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 Originally Posted by oiram So where are you getting all your numbers from to calculate all this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight

Solar constant
Main article: Solar constant
Solar irradiance spectrum at top of atmosphere, on a linear scale and plotted against wavenumber.

The solar constant, a measure of flux density, is the amount of incoming solar electromagnetic radiation per unit area that would be incident on a plane perpendicular to the rays, at a distance of one astronomical unit (AU) (roughly the mean distance from the Sun to the Earth). The "solar constant" includes all types of solar radiation, not just the visible light. Its average value was thought to be approximately 1.366 kW/m²,[12] varying slightly with solar activity, but recent recalibrations of the relevant satellite observations indicate a value closer to 1.361 kW/m² is more realistic.[13] This radiation is about 50% infrared, 40% visible, and about 10% ultraviolet, at the top of the atmosphere.[3]

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 Originally Posted by oiram Are you an insider protecting your brothers scam?
No. I'm exposing the \$cam and the liars behind the scam are definitely not my brothers. They are the cowardly enemies of decent humanity and all that is morally and spiritually good.

Does your obsession with Talmudic Kabalistic numerology, so evident in your posts, mean that you are an insider protecting your brother's Scams?

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 Originally Posted by oiram Why produce all the power? .............. why not just use the power which is already within the atmosphere? Use what you got don't try to create it ............. all you need is a system which attracts the atmosphere existing power & concentrate it in one area.
^System which doesn't exist.

Explain the fantasy Physics of your HAARP system.
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 29-01-2014, 07:00 PM #6 silent revolution Senior Member     Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The vale of Tamesis. Love is life and life is love. Posts: 5,440 Likes: 1,052 (496 Posts) Shouldn't this be in the 'Have a laugh' section of the forum? I mean, are you saying Tesla got it wrong? Peace, love, harmony and wisdom friend
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From oiram's post above

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 Martin I. Hoffert, Professor Emeritus of Physics and former Chair of the Department of Applied Science at New York University, discusses the cost-effective space solar power (SSP) -- the beaming abundant high-intensity solar power from space though atmospheric windows at laser or microwave frequencies for electric power at the surface and into a grid. The talk was released the past week as a part of the Google Tech Talks Dr. Hoffert's talk is based upon the Space-Based Solar Power As an Opportunity for Strategic Security by National Security Space Office Interim Assessment Phase 0 Architecture Feasibility Study, October 10, 2007
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Another NA\$A \$cam!

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 This radiation is about 50% infrared, 40% visible, and about 10% ultraviolet, at the top of the atmosphere
@oiram

Please explain the mechanism of Hoffert's "atmospheric window" and don't forget to include the mechanism by which the sun's radiation ( 50% infrared, 40% visible, and about 10% ultraviolet) is "magically" converted to laser or microwave frequencies. It's Monty Python "D P Gumby class" pseudo-science Bull\$hit fiction from one of your "brothers"....The writing of "Fantasy Fizzicks" Comedy is now a very lucrative and highly paid branch of hijacked \$cientific Academia....
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 Originally Posted by silent revolution Shouldn't this be in the 'Have a laugh' section of the forum? I mean, are you saying Tesla got it wrong? Peace, love, harmony and wisdom friend
Strawman! Tesla coils exist. It's shameful that his great contribution to Physics has been hijacked and distorted to substantiate a \$cam and \$caremongering fantasy Physics Hoax, but nothing changes as illustrated by the fact he was conned out of the ownership of his patents when he was alive.....by the "brothers".
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 29-01-2014, 08:43 PM #10 elton Senior Member   Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,857 Likes: 21 (14 Posts) Maybe they are beaming power from moon bases? Could it be the reptilians that are doing it? if the reptilians came from Draco thats a long way away so presumably they have the ability to generate massive power and direct it wherever they want.
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Back to Hollywood again

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 Originally Posted by elton Maybe they are beaming power from moon bases? Could it be the reptilians that are doing it? if the reptilians came from Draco thats a long way away so presumably they have the ability to generate massive power and direct it wherever they want.
Back to Hollywood & Alien reptilian lizards again .............

well there is nothing else expose in lah, lah land of there half-makers created illusions?

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 Originally Posted by oiram Back to Hollywood & Alien reptilian lizards again ............. well there is nothing else expose in lah, lah land of there half-makers created illusions?
I don't understand your post. Are you saying there are no reptilians on the moon or what?

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Of-cause there are reptilians on the moon

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 Originally Posted by elton I don't understand your post. Are you saying there are no reptilians on the moon or what?
Of-cause there are reptilians on the moon I watch them every second or third night through my telescope.

They even send a radio message last time ....... saying they got big problems breathing over there.

But there working on there problem they said.

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30-01-2014, 08:11 PM   #14
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 Originally Posted by oiram of-cause there are reptilians on the moon i watch them every second or third night through my telescope. They even send a radio message last time ....... Saying they got big problems breathing over there. But there working on there problem they said.
lol

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I just love when they change

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I just love when they change there shapes .......

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 Originally Posted by kaito Weather, seasonal climate change, cloud formation, tsunamis, tornados, the Gulf stream, increases/decreases in the area of polar ice etc are all driven and fueled by the seasonal fluctuating energy Earth receives from the Sun during daylight hours. It's average intensity is approx 1300 watts/sq. metre If HAARP is a genuine weapon capable of creating catastophic storms/tsunamis it would need to operate at it's target location with a power rate (Energy consumed/sec/unit area) in the order of magnitude of the Sun ie 1300 watts/m^2. The source of this power would have to be the aggressor country's electrical power grid. I would now ask interested readers of the thread to view a topic at this blog: http://www.colinandrews.net/Cloud-Ra...2010-0122.html If we examine the provenance of this image of the "alleged weather anomaly" we see that it's area is 324297 square miles and it appears to be causing radial cloud formations 643 miles in diameter......(photoshopped onto a map by the hoaxsters.) A gargantuan amount of energy/sec would be needed to cause this event in the order of magnitude of the Sun's climate driving power of 1300 watts/m^2 focused on this area. If we apply this power rate to the area of the anomaly (324297 square miles) we can get a rough idea of the order of magnitude of the power consumption the "fake HAARP weapon" would need to operate at to produce the anomaly. 1 sq. mile = 2589988 sq metres Area of anomaly in sq metres is given by: 324297x2589988=8.34x10^11 sq metres. If we now multiply this area by 1300watts/sq metre we arrive at the order of magnitude of the power this "fake HAARP weapon" would need to consume: 8.34x10^11x 1300 = 10.842x10^14 watts!!!!!!!! The link below........ http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbprojec...d=2010&unit=MK ......informs us that the MAXIMUM generating capability of the Australian Electricity Power Grid in 2010 was 59.134x10^9 watts! If we now take the derived estimated power necessary for "fake HAARP" to function and divide it by the max power output of the Australian electricity grid we get : 10.842x10^14/59.134x10^9=18334.63 ....in other words the order of magnitude of the "fake HAARP's" power consumption would need to be ~18334 times greater than the MAXIMUM OUTPUT OF THE ENTIRE AUSTRALIAN ELECTRICITY GRID!!!!!!.... In fact the power needed appears to exceed the combined maximum power output of every electricity grid on the planet....lmao!!.. Don't be taken in by this HAARP Bull\$hit....it's a \$caremongering Psyop \$cam at the fantasy Physics end of the science spectrum, as is the Nuclear Weapons Hoax. .......
.......and why do you think that this power could not be created, without taking into account advanced technologies? You're a fool to think that HAARP doesn't exist!!
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 Originally Posted by oiram Of-cause there are reptilians on the moon I watch them every second or third night through my telescope. They even send a radio message last time ....... saying they got big problems breathing over there. But there working on there problem they said.
Why would they have problems breathing, when they don't need the amount of oxygen humans need?
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 Originally Posted by maxine Why would they have problems breathing, when they don't need the amount of oxygen humans need?
Because there is no oxygen at all on the moon. Well maybe if the moon is hollow then maybe the oxygen is inside. Reptilians are probably able to make machines which generate oxygen so that should be easy.

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 Originally Posted by oiram Like a finger turning in a bucket of water & the entire water volume in the bucket starts moving by just using a single finger.
Ahhhh.....Like an enema....So that's how they do it!!!!

Anyway.....Thanks for your eloquent explanation of the HAARP \$cam which all Phy\$i\$i\$t'\$ will agree with based on the well known theory.......Pi\$\$ into the wind and you can change a gale from the North into a very profitable gale from the \$\$\$\$\$outh.......Phantasy Fi\$\$icks Nirvana....Have they patented this yet or is it still Top \$\$\$\$\$ecret along with all those invisible electricity Power \$\$\$\$tations?........if so it's theft from the US taxpayer and a gross infringement of patent rights.

King Canute originally held the HAARP patent and Ozzie Osbourne inherited it ......

00:30...."Stop!....(f**k beeped out)...go to Alaska or somewhere else".....which, of course, they did.....lmao!

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