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Old 14-01-2014, 03:26 PM   #1521
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Edwina Currie: 'I don't believe woman MPs in the 1980s were involved in anything dire' http://t.co/JlsW2Emca1
@ciabaudo 14 hours ago

No she would not consider what happened to Andrew as dire, would she


s that twitter account even the real EC...have my doubts...her answers are sometimes quite odd...
https://twitter.com/ciabaudo/status/422886080623681536

Trouble is most of them dont know what really happened.

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https://twitter.com/UKPaedos_Named

Children have rights ‏@UKPaedos_Named 10s
We now know who the female MP is who allegedly sexually abused a young boy in cabinet office -
You will be shocked - Or will you?


cheryl corless ‏@cherylcorless41 1m
@UKPaedos_Named has she sold a book

Children have rights ‏@UKPaedos_Named 1m
@cherylcorless41 yes

Children have rights ‏@UKPaedos_Named 1m
The female MP who abused young boy in cabinet office will be named in documentary to be released later this week

Children have rights ‏@UKPaedos_Named 1m
@mizog366 it will be on utube


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Old 14-01-2014, 04:34 PM   #1525
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Reluctant as to whether to raise the connection initially however since a reference here has now been made...

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One of the more interesting cases pertaining to snuff movies is a child abuse and -trafficking ring of Brits who were forced to relocate to the Amsterdam region in the 1980s. Over the years, this ring made the news on several occasions.

The first time was in 1990, when a teenage victim-witness, Andrew, contacted welfare workers of the British National Association for Young People In Care (NAYPIC). Andrew claimed to have been a victim of a British pedophile ring and forced on several occasions to film snuff movies in a warehouse in or around Amsterdam. The welfare workers were skeptical, but until further developments the teenager was allowed to live in the home of NAYPIC's London development officer, Mary Moss. Just before Andrew was to give a more official testimony, he was drugged and pulled into a van, right in front of Moss' home. The teenager had already been threatened and followed in the streets before this kidnapping. It's not known if he was never heard of again. The report on Andrew also stated:

"Welfare staff at Naypic have been convinced by Andrew and other runaways that such [snuff] films are being made. They have been told of a paedophile group known as the Elite Twelve, which is prepared to pay up to Pounds 5,000 to youngsters to make videos involving torture and sado-masochism, and which may lead to murder."

"They have also been told of a snuff movie made last year when a 14-year-old boy was beaten by three men in an East End flat, raped and battered to death with clubs."
http://www.whale.to/c/reality6.html


and also

http://www.youthparliament.org.uk/bo...localgroup.htm

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• Andrew, Bradford , sexually abused/child porn/snuff movies. We have all the evidence of flights, hotels etc. Andrew subsequently kidnapped from one of our development workers house when he stepped out her flat door. He had a blanket thrown over his head and was taken away in a vehicle. Seen next day in a Rolls Royce by a member. A few days later showed up at our offices demanding we give him back all evidence as he had the Walthamstow brothers outside waiting for him and the evidence. He was told he would be set up in a nice cushy job as a photographer back in Bradford if he behaved.
Am speculating that the Walthamstow brothers mentioned could be known (criminal/hardmen?) brothers from Walthamstow rather than with that surname. I had a quick look a few days ago and none immediately sprang up.
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@taj

'Porno kralı' tatilde

'King of Porn' on holiday


Thanks for those INCREDIBLE POSTS, Taj!

Can't wait to see what the articles say!! Anybody know Turkish?
Google translation is the worst.
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'Porno kralı' tatilde

'King of Porn' on holiday


Thanks for those INCREDIBLE POSTS, Taj!

Can't wait to see what this is about!! Anybody know Turkish?
Google translation is the worst.
...
Well, I suppose everyone needs a vacation
at some point

Babylon translator is not much better unfortunately.
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There are a few personal, professional translator sites which give you a quote on the cost when you paste them over the words - no idea how much it would be but may be worth getting a quote? EG just found one random one http://www.freetranslation.com/ (it's not free lol).

My outing to a certain deli - haunt post night - life is delayed unfortunately - last week's hangover still fresh. :-/


(ps site's just gone a bit skewiff on me, slow and erratic - wonder why?)

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Old 14-01-2014, 05:17 PM   #1532
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Edwina Currie: 'I don't believe woman MPs in the 1980s were involved in anything dire' http://t.co/JlsW2Emca1
@ciabaudo 14 hours ago

No she would not consider what happened to Andrew as dire, would she


s that twitter account even the real EC...have my doubts...her answers are sometimes quite odd...
https://twitter.com/ciabaudo/status/422886080623681536

Trouble is most of them dont know what really happened.
Another version of her tweet

Edwina Currie ‏@Edwina_Currie 23h

@ciabaudo @MARTINANDCRAIG I've only just seen it. I don't believe women MPs in 1980s were involved in anything dire, Labour or Tory

Noting the absence of Lib Dems (or whatever they called themselves at that time)
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@Dopes - I really did nearly laugh my legwarmers off at that tweet of hers. LOOOOL!!!

Especially after that Evening Standard article!!!

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Edwina Currie ‏@Edwina_Currie 23h

@ciabaudo @MARTINANDCRAIG I've only just seen it. I don't believe women MPs in 1980s were involved in anything dire, Labour or Tory

Noting the absence of Lib Dems (or whatever they called themselves at that time)
I just wonder if she is throwing that in peoples faces Edwina Currie: 'I don't believe woman MPs in the 1980s were involved in anything dire' bit like an admission , knowing too well probably it is not going to be proven or going any further. Shocking.
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@Dopes - I really did nearly laughed my legwarmers off at that tweet of hers. LOOOOL!!!

Especially after that Evening Standard article!!!

Surprised she didn't resort to "You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment"
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Worth a recap of this Exaro article again, from October 2013.

The ex Thorn Garth School resident has to be Andrew.

"witness provided detectives with a highly personal description of the ex minister"

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/51...Bqq_no.twitter

Andrew the former Thorngarth School resident too.

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Children have rights ‏@UKPaedos_Named 1m
The female MP who abused young boy in cabinet office will be named in documentary to be released later this week

Out on utube soon
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@Taj

7 September 1989
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Grant ve kadın arkadası sorguya cekildi

Porno kralı kovuldu

Ülkesinde dolandiricılık iddiasıyla aranan, yaklaşık 9 aydır Antalya'nin Side kasabasında, Başbakanlık Müsteşarı Ahmet Selçuk'un evinde kiracı olarak kalan Ingiliz porno filmler yapimcısı David Hamilton-Grant ve kadın arkadaşı Vanessa'yı polis, önceki gece 22.30'da sorguya aldı.
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Bad google translation, but it's clear enough about one thing.


7 September 1989
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Grant and woman in the back was interrogated

Porn king was fired

Country for alleged fraud dialed, is about 9 months of Antalya Side in town, Prime Ministry Undersecretary Ahmet Selçuk's house as a tenant in the remaining British porn movie producer David Hamilton - Grant and his female friend Vanessa police the previous night at 22.30 to the query took .
...

David Hamilton Grant was living in the Turkish Prime Minister's Undersecretary's house as a tenant!

That's INCREDIBLE!!!!
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