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Old 18-06-2013, 11:35 PM   #1
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Occult Forces (1943)

Following WW2, the film's writer, Jean-Marie Rivière, was imprisoned. Its producer, Robert Muzard, and director, Paul Riche (the pseudonym of Jean Mamy), were EXECUTED (+1949) for their part in the production of this film. "Occult Forces" was the last film Riche directed before his execution.

Tagline: Les mystères de la francomaçonnerie pour le premier fois dévoilés à l'écran. (The mysteries of Freemasonry revealed for the first time on screen)

Plot: The film recounts the life of a young député who joins the Freemasons in order to relaunch his career. He thus learns of how the Freemasons are conspiring with the Jews and the Anglo-american nations to encourage France into a war against Germany.

The film was commissioned in 1942 by the Propaganda Abteilung, a delegation of Nazi Germany's propaganda ministry within occupied France by the ex-Mason Mamy. It virulently denounces Freemasonry, parliamentarianism and Jews as part of Vichy's drive against them and seeks to prove a Jewish-Masonic plot. On France's "liberation" its writer Jean Marquès-Rivière, its producer Robert Muzard and its direction Jean Mamy were purged for collaboration with the enemy.

On 25 November 1945, Muzard was condemned to 3 years in prison and Marquès-Rivière was condemned in his absence (he had gone into self-imposed exile) to death and degradation. Mamy had also been a journalist on L'Appel under Pierre Constantini (leader of the Ligue française d'épuration, d'entraide sociale et de collaboration européenne) and on the collaborationist journal Au pilori, and was thus condemned to death and executed at the fortress of Montrouge on 29 March 1949.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLhpY...ctr=1371598953

I am no national socialist and am absolutely against nazism and this film was made as a nazi germany collaborated propaganda film within occupied France, that being said I found it interesting in that it shows a man who was speaking some very real truth in a public meeting being afterward initiated into freemasonry along with filming the entire ritual (a film version of it anyways), the man then eventually turns on his freemasonic co-horts and he is almost murdered as a response. It is the ritual and dialogue amongst the freemasons that I find of interest, for example the term "it's raining" said on the telephone means 'the profane are listening' etc..

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So he was killed after making the movie. hmmm
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The Masonic initiation ceremony for the main protagonist, Avenel, begins at the 12:17 mark ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLhpY...ctr=1371615873 )...



A good indication that this isn't a strictly one-dimensional Nazi propaganda film is found in the sequence above, where the assembly of Masons is seen giving a Nazi-style salute to mark the commencement of proceedings.

Given the film's anti-Freemasonry agenda it seems like a confusing and counter-productive decision by the Nazis to highlight the Masonic use of their own signature hand-signal.



That they went ahead and did it suggests to me that we're probably looking at an earnest recreation of the internal workings of a Masonic lodge, since Nazi falsification of this detail would only serve to conflate them with the very organization they were attempting to denigrate - an approach that doesn't make any sense at all.

Revealing the Brotherhood's internal secrets with such accuracy might explain why the producer and director were punished in the most extreme way after the war.

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Is there another source for the video than youtube? It is not available in several countries, especially German speaking ones.


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Contents: Editor's Preface; I. Shadows over Humanity: „Those in the Dark can't be seen“, Ceremonial Magic, Forms of Rulership. II. Messianism as a Means of political Agitation: The Catholic Church, Jesuitism, Zionism. III. Secret Societies: Freemasons and their Lodges, Circles - from Grey to Black, The Illuminati, Downfall of the Monarchies, The French Revolution and Napoleon. IV. Strategist of Power: The British as a "Chosen People", Freemasonry as an Instrument of Power, The Testament of Peter the Great, Democracy or Democratorship? V. Impulses opposed to the Necessities of Evolution: American Happiness Culture, The Battle against the European Middle, Germany and Zionism, Zionism and National Socialism, Politics and Spiritualism, Sozialist Experiments in the East, Fabianism and Social Democracy in the West, Control of U.S. Policy, Methods of B'nai B'rith, A profitable First World War, EU – Holy Roman Empire of European Nation. VI. The Imperial World Order: The Pilgrims, Skull & Bones, The Rothschilds, The Warburgs, The Rockefellers, The Federal Reserve System, Control of the Global Financial Systems, High Finance and the State of Israel, The Dartmouth Conferences, Transatlantic Bilderbergers, The Trilateral Commission, League of Nations and UNO. VII. Dirty Business: Secret Services, Drugs, Mafia, Terrorists as useful Idiots, Neo-Liberalism via Shock Therapy. VIII. Light above Humanity: Social Threefolding.


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Is there another source for the video than youtube? It is not available in several countries, especially German speaking ones.

Will this one work for you,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb5z3UkLgtY

I am in France and the link posted by the op did not work for me either said blocked in my country, try this one, works for me , failing that use the youtube search bar to source one that may?





Sorry, can anyone tell me how long the film is in the original link in op, this one is only just over 50 mins, wonder if it's cut

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Sorry, can anyone tell me how long the film is in the original link in op, this one is only just over 50 mins, wonder if it's cut
The OP clip is 51:34, aa.
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Thank you SOL, strange how they(youtube) block one version of the same download for one country but you can search out one that does work in their archive, bizarre?


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Thanks for those stills size of light, I had not noticed the nazi sign (salute) used during the freemason ritual.

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Professor Bernard Fay, who studied at Harvard, was a prominent historian, the National Librarian of France, a best-selling author, lecturer and acknowledged authority on American civilization and history.



Fay believed that a Freemasonic cabal planned both the American and French revolutions. But beyond that, he saw a similar conspiracy at work in his own day. And, it is no surprise that the traditionalist and conservative wartime French government sitting at Vichy enthusiastically supported him. As you will see, when the winds of political change blew in the other direction, Dr. Fay was caught up in a maelstrom.

“The new faith in the future of humanity that spread in the eighteenth century was not simply an abstract fact or mental force. It became a social force and concrete fact through the agency of Freemasonry, which at once accepted and advocated it; the great historical importance of modern Freemasonry results from this attitude that it took then. ” … Thus Freemasonry has become the most efficient social power of the civilized world."

“But it has become a hidden power, difficult to trace, to describe and to define. Consequently, most historians have avoided treating it seriously and giving it due credit.”

Bernard Fay, Revolution and Freemasonry.

In 1943, the Harvard-trained academic oversaw the making of a somewhat odd film called Forces Occultes. Movie watchers may remember that this was an era of somewhat garish “thriller films” such as King Kong, Dracula and Frankenstein. The production featured, among other things, a giant spider creeping across the screen over maps of areas of Masonic influence, complete with a leering evil figure stretched over a flaming globe. Thanks to YouTube users, the film can be seen online. Forces Occultes was popular with the in-crowd in wartime Paris, but Fay and the literary cliques of the day failed to recognize that, very soon, truly Dark Forces would rudely and crudely interrupt their lives.

The well-known author and lecturer, as you might expect, was part of a trendy crowd who, even in the middle of the war, seemed to see themselves as untouchable by world events. Parisian café society, while toned down a bit, never really stopped. The Champagne corks continued to pop and the most perfect Martinis were served while the storm raged on, coming ever closer. When the tempest arrived, the Petain nationalist government and their ideals were devastatingly swept away. As a result, Bernard Fay became one of history’s cold case files. His books and theories, once widely known, are seldom read or discussed anymore. But for a time, Dr. Fay was the man of the hour for certain hot button issues. Then the world turned upside down and the “forces occultes” were hidden no more.

But, exactly how did the Professor go from being a famous author to end up as a convict? Fay had an even greater impact than either the film or his hobnobbing with international celebrities. As administrator of the Bibliotheque Nationale, he supervised government-ordered research into the archives of Freemasons and other secret societies, a project eventually producing 170,000 leads.

Baron Julius Evola, another esoteric investigator, did similar work with Freemasonic archives in Vienna, also working with German intelligence agencies. Evola’s work ended when he was severely injured in a Soviet air raid, but Bernard Fay completed his task and reported his findings, from which trials resulted. After the Allies took over and a new government installed, Fay was charged with war crimes, blaming him for 117 deaths. He was tried by a puppet court, and sentenced to life in prison. To his credit, during the show trial, he was largely unrepentant. When interrogated, he said this.

"I was glad to have in my hands the instrument capable of renovating the country. My mission was to organize a service for the detection of the Freemasons and Masonic archives. To be successful in that work, I was obligated to have relations with the Germans, especially as they had an organization parallel with ours. Fay simply said that he was …a historian who was doing this for intellectual reasons."

Even today, Masonic publications and web sites devote time and space to dispute and denounce Fay and his works, especially his well-known Revolution and Freemasonry, which highlights heavy Masonic influences.


“Masonry alone undertook to lay the foundation for national unity in America, because through the very nature of its organization, it could spread throughout all the colonies and work steadily and silently. It created in a limited but very prominent class of people a feeling of American unity without which the American liberty could not have developed – without which there would have been no United States.” (pp. 229-230).


“Freemasonry cannot deny the outstanding role played by its leaders in the Revolution, or that the Continental Congress, where the delegates from the colonies met to prepare a common political program and to organize the defense against England, was in majority composed of Masons. These congresses were imbued with the purest Masonic spirit, as proved by their actions, which finally was expressed in the Declaration of Independence.” (p. 241).

http://www.gnosticliberationfront.co...ult_forces.htm





Avenel starts to become uncomfortable about what he’s let himself into and soon realizes the power of the Freemason goes right to the top of government. The Freemasons are unconcerned for the welfare of France and their only concern is to better themselves.



..plans are made to discredit Avenel, first by physically attacking him one night on his way home and then telling the newspapers of sexual misconduct and drug abuse resulting in him being labeled a psychopath.



Maurice Rémy, who played Pierre Avenel ended up settling in Argentina in 1949.



My guess is that the rituals and initiation ceremony are probably fairly accurate, giving the viewer the chance to see something which otherwise only takes place behind closed doors.

http://psychotic-cinema.blogspot.ca/...rces-1943.html

Bit of an odd website but the movie can be watched here if you cannot access it on youtube:

http://www.planetxtube.com/component...-archive-movie

The movie to this day remains little known about.

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Thanks anon andon and karah for posting more sources

http://archive.org/details/occultFor...reemasonryFilm

I found the video on dailymotion, trutube, freemasontube and even another upload on yt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4vY_WxXRBc

which is still working.




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In Germany all lodges were dissolved by the Reich Minister of the Interior on 8 August 1935 and their assets confiscated. Shortly after the unconditional surrender of the Wehrmacht the allies reactivated masonery nationwide by installing masons in all corridors of power.

Take a look at this endless list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...c_Grand_Lodges

and this is only what mainstream wikipedia tells us.

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thanks for posting additional links.

It is up for debate as to whether or not all lodges were shut down by the nazi apparatus.

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In Mein Kampf, Hitler said Freemasonry had "succumbed" to the Jews and was an "excellent instrument" to entice the upper classes into their agenda. After the Nazis rose to power, Hitler outlawed Freemasonry and shut down many lodges. Many Brethren were arrested and sent to the concentration camps. The stolen items from Lodges were used to create anti-Masonic exhibitions across Germany, designed to create fear and hostility towards the fraternity. Freemasons were also executed, and their property stolen in countries invaded and occupied by the Nazi's (Norway, Denmark, Holland, Belgium, France, Poland, Hungary, Greece etc). Historians tell us that at least 80,000 masons were murdered across Europe. However, in reality Hitler's anti-Masonic policy was very selective.

Masonic compass on post-war E. German Flag


The Nazis only persecuted fringe lodges associated with the Communists. Mainstream German Freemasonry, which was allied with American and British masonry, was exempted. This because Hitler himself secretly was aligned with them. Indeed he was their agent. A 1997 edition of the Freemasonic journal Philalthes featured an article titled 'German Freemasonry and Its Attitudes Toward The Nazi Regime', that reveals the demographics of the Fraternity in 1930s Germany.

'Several Masonic spiritual families existed side by side in Germany, [and] were treated differently by the Nazis.' 'About two-thirds of the brethren belonged to the three oldest, always Christian-oriented and at that time strongly nationalistic Grand Lodges founded in the 18th century which were called 'Old Prussian' because they were founded and had their seats in Berlin. They never initiated 'non Christians', that is, Jews.' -

This faction was Pro-Nazi. It contained the captains of industry, commerce and finance, Royalty and leading citizens who backed Hitler. Many of these men were high-ranking members of the Nazi Party.These lodges were not persecuted, but they did have to make a few minor adjustments consistent with anti-Masonic policy. Their Grand Master's sent formal written oaths of allegiance to Hitler and they removed Hebraic wording from their rituals. -



They united and called themselves 'The Frederick the Great Association'. The Prussian King Frederick the Great (1712-1786) was a nationalist symbol in Nazi propaganda. However, he was also the founder and patron of 'regular' Freemasonry in Germany!

JEWISH FREEMASONRY

The Nazis liquidated the fringe lodges that allowed Jews to be initiated.

'During the 19th century, five more German Grand Lodges were founded and a further one in 1924. They were called 'humanitarian' and initiated men of any religious denomination.'

They espoused liberal and internationalist politics. They were allied with the Communists: Hitler shut them down.

The Prussian alliance refused to recognize these lodges.

'In 1922, the Old Prussian Grand Lodges decided to withdraw from the German Grand Lodges' Alliance founded in 1872, explaining: 'There is a border which strongly differentiates humanitarian from Old Prussian national Freemasonry. We, the three Old Prussian Grand Lodges refuse to take part in the general humanitarian fraternization movement between people in the world.'

Essentially, the large and powerful lodges in Germany united to eliminate their much smaller neighbors. So, rather than being an attack on the Fraternity as a whole, Hitler's anti-Masonic policy was really contrived Masonic in-fighting!

World War Two should also be seen in this light.



(Anti-Semitic Nazi illustration. They could add Nazis to the list.)

FREEMASONRY BRIDGED ALLIES & NAZIS

The Prussian Lodges were the only German Lodges recognized by British and American Freemasonry.

They share a common history. Prussian King Frederick the Great played an important role in the creation of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. Official Masonic history records:

"The Scottish Rite had its beginning in France, when in 1754, the Chevalier de Bonneville established in Paris, a chapter of twenty-five so-called High Degrees which, including the three symbolic Degrees, these High Degrees were called the Rite of Perfection.

In 1758 these Degrees were taken to Berlin and placed under a body called the Council of Emperors of the East and West, and in 1762 Frederick the Great of Prussia became the head of the Rite and promulgated what is known as the Constitution of 1762. In 1786 a reorganization took place in which eight Degrees were added to the twenty-five, and the name changed to the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry."

The Prussian Lodges were what tied the Western powers to Nazi Germany. This is why Freemasons like Henry Ford aided Hitler.

The lodges had particularly strong ties with the Prussian Royal family in Britain. It is well known that the British Royals were Nazi sympathizers, for instance, all four of Prince Philip's sisters married high-ranking Nazis.

However, some Royals were privy to the agenda for WW2 and some weren't. The Illuminati planned for Germany to lose the war, so the genuine Nazi collaborators had to be purged in case they sabotaged the script.



One of the most infamous murders of WW2 was of Prince George, Duke of Kent.

The Duke was a virulent Nazi supporter. In 1939, he was elected Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England.

In 1941, Prince George and the Duke of Hamilton conducted a secret meeting with Rudolf Hess in Scotland in an attempt to negotiate a peace treaty between the rival powers. The British government arrested Hess and put him in prison for the rest of his life.

The repercussions for Prince George were even more severe. Six months after this meeting, his plane was shot down.

Sir Anthony Blunt claims that the Prince was murdered on the orders of Illuminati-Gofer Winston Churchill.

CONCLUSION

Freemasonry was behind all of the major players in WW2

Freemasonry was behind the 'right-wing' Fascist Nazis. The Prussian Lodges in Germany were integral to building up the Nazi party. The Swastika is a symbol used in high Masonic Degrees today; apparently it is the ancient "Furthore" Rune Script for the letter "G", the most important and universal symbol in Freemasonry.

Freemasonry was also behind the 'left-wing' Soviets. Karl Marx, Lenin and Trotsky were all Masons. The flag of Communist East Germany featured the Masonic compass.

Freemasonry was also behind the 'Capitalists.' Both Churchill and FDR were Masons.

Politics and history are a charade. Photos are frequently published of our 'opposing' leaders exchanging a Masonic handshake!

Freemasonry organizes our wars so nations and heroes are destroyed to advance of the Masonic New World Order.

http://henrymakow.com/nazi_masons.ht....sUt3s6hM.dpuf

I would add that true christianity and freemasonry are diametrically opposed as the freemasonic ideology is occultic and at it's core sinister in nature in such a way that Christ Himself would have opposed it vehemently.
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The GDR was under Soviet occupation and thus of course a perfect mixture of communism and highly masonic structures, therefore exposing the symbolism of the flag is no exciting disclosure at all.



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(Anti-Semitic Nazi illustration. They could add Nazis to the list.)

Soviet "Nazis"? The text on this poster is written in Cyrillic script.


To me Makow has exposed himself since long to be a disinfo agent who mixes about eighty percent of truth with ten percent of fiction and ten percent of downright ptb propaganda and I suppose that he does it again very well in this article, karah. In his defence I had to notice that he did enable this critical comment which might come somewhat closer to reality

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Hi Henry. The article about the Masons in WWII was where your writer has a misunderstanding. And it is part of a narrative that you also espouse and that is "too conspiratorial by half". WWII was not a conspiracy. It was a real war and the masons and sabbatean Jews won. The pinkos and commies won, to use another terminology.

To try and say that both sides were Masons and it was all contrived is just childish.

Reading the facts it is easy to understand that, yes, there were at the time two types of Masonry. And other books written before then, after the French Revolution allude to this. But specifically at the time between the wars, there was a type of masonry that was basically goys being goys and carrying on about "free will", the "rights of man" and all that type of silly stuff. And then there were lodges that were controlled by sabbateans that had an agenda, THE agenda. And it was these latter ones that were the real threat and it was these ones that Hitler shut down. The other ones were reformable and included in the nationalist programme.

Same thing in England. Those masons that were just idle goys engaging in fruitless talk were one thing. Then there were the others controlled by the sabbateans. Prince George was murdered by the sabbatean masons.

The naive goy masons that really didn't know what was going on (the dupes, useful idiots) found themselves on the "wrong" side of the real masons, the ones controlled by the Sabbateans. And it is these sabbatean masons that won WWII.

And that is still where we are today.

Thanks for all the good stuff you put out there for people to educate themselves.

Regarding "real Christianity", which in my book has nothing to do with the so-called churches today, that were undermined and infiltrated long ago, and masonry these articles might be interesting as complementary information

http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/brokencross/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmW66hHfjWM
http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/
http://archive.org/details/TheJewish...CatholicChurch



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I would add that true christianity and freemasonry are diametrically opposed as the freemasonic ideology is occultic and at it's core sinister in nature in such a way that Christ Himself would have opposed it vehemently.
Definitely that!

Thank you for bringing up this subject, karah, which raises old questions that are not conclusively answered yet.

In the end many a conception of the world might collapse, if hardly anything of what we now believe to be revelations, compared to our previous worldviews, still holds water tomorrow.

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Would make a good book or series of magazine articles.
Fascinating yarn.
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"Die Weltfreimaurerei" - WORLD FREEMASONRY - was distributed in 1942 by the RSHA within a series of booklets for political and ideological education of the members of the security police and security service for internal use only.

http://archive.org/details/DieWeltfreimaurerei


Here you can learn in detail and straight from the horse's mouth how the national socialists fought masonry, how masons, grand masters and worshipful masters etc were no longer allowed to stay in higher echelons of society, how lodges tried to disguise by changing their names, or adapt their teachings according to national socialist weltanschauung, previous to dissolving .




VII National Socialism and Freemasonry
4 Attitude of Freemasonry after 30 January 1933
p 45


The "Große Loge von Preußen genannt zur Freundschaft" (Grand Loge of Prussia called to Friendship) for example started to purge their rituals of Jewish symbolics at the end of 1932 but was surprised by the takeover of the national socialists without having carried out this plan by then.



Three Grand Lodges dissolved

"Symbolische Großloge von Deutschland"
"Oberste Rat für Deutschland"
"Freimaurerbund zur aufgehenden Sonne"

Archives and libraries were destroyed or sent to foreign countries by members of these lodges. Influential members of these Grand Lodges emmigrated, some of them continued their masonic work in Palestine under the name of "Symbolische Großloge von Deutschland im Exil" in Tel Aviv.



Dissolving of humanitarian lodges

While the Old Prussian Grand Lodges continued their efforts to adjust themselves, a part of the humanitarian lodges dissolved realizing that adaptation would be received lame because of their past activities. They tried to hide their masonic activities under the cloak of associations for the preservation of literature and culture.



Old Prussian Grand Lodges

In order to secure continuation of their masonic activities the Old Prussian Grand Lodges adopted the assumed name "Deutsch-Christlicher Orden". They declared they were no longer masonic lodges and renounced all contacts with world masonry. As these efforts were received as willful deception they were forced to readopt their original name.




(Excerpt translated and summerized to the best of my ability and knowledge, without laying claim to perfection)



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I would add that true christianity and freemasonry are diametrically opposed as the freemasonic ideology is occultic and at it's core sinister in nature in such a way that Christ Himself would have opposed it vehemently.

Surprisingly you can find this statement on nationalist socialism and freemasonery expressed in almost identical words in the above document.

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The Swastika is a symbol used in high Masonic Degrees today; apparently it is the ancient "Furthore" Rune Script for the letter "G", the most important and universal symbol in Freemasonry.


What is "Furthore" Rune Script?

Do they mean "Futhark" aka "Futhork"?

I can't find a Futhark rune resembling a G or a swastika, can someone please post it?
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Bolllocks!!!! I know by just a cursury look at history that you speak mistruths. If only this was a 'fantastical yarn' but it isn't, it is reality, laid out for us in all it's unpleasantness. You sir's..are spreading lies..I will give you the benefit of the doubt but search within your heart's before you say anthing further..
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Bolllocks!!!! I know by just a cursury look at history that you speak mistruths. If only this was a 'fantastical yarn' but it isn't, it is reality, laid out for us in all it's unpleasantness. You sir's..are spreading lies..I will give you the benefit of the doubt but search within your heart's before you say anthing further..
To make this clear, you are referring to the comment by grandmasterp only, aren't you?




Last night I finally watched the full documentary and was almost shocked by its immediacy and straightforwardness. It's thanks to you, karah, that this most important progressive work of education did not vanish into oblivion.

I had to write down the key sentences to understand that never before or after was the hidden agenda of masonry unmasked in a more eye-opening and graphic way.



Claire: "You are an honest man, my love, but you have one great fault."

"What's that then?"

Claire: "You never see the bad in things. You imagine other people are good like you. That's why you are always disappointed."




"Monsieur, do you believe in God? And why?"



"Bow down, Sir!"



"Monsieur, this sword that you feel at your chest is always ready to punish perjury. It is the symbol of remorse that will pierce your HEART if you betray the society that you are entering into. Are you willing of your own free will to enter among us?"

"Yes."

"It is an institution that proceeds according to its own rules. It takes its strength from reason. Do you still persist in your intentions? Are you determined to submit yourself to the tests, whatever they may be?"

"I am."

"In that case entrust yourself to the hand that will LEAD you."




"Monsieur, the flames that surrounded you have completed your tests. The Masonic order into which you have asked to be admitted may perhaps one day demand that you fight until your last drop of blood that you defend it an your brothers."

"You will not escape the vengeance of the brothers spread out across the world and who have sworn to punish perjury."




"Please get me the numbers of Quai d'Orsay (Ministry of Foreign Affairs), Banque de France, staff headquarters, the General Secretary of the Radical Socialist Party, Le Temps and the Guerlain aviation factories."




"What shall we do?"

"Trop tard!"




Stills of 15:44, 18:40 (FIEL), 24:20 and 51:06 would be very much appreciated.





"Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few."


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Old 22-06-2013, 08:22 AM   #19
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No answers, no response, not even from the huge mansonic lobby here.

Of course this is a politically charged subject and you run the risk of being attacked by tptb and their little helpers if you expose too much truth about their tightly knit masonic spiderweb, which might scare away commentators.


I never thought that wikipedia was objective or apolitical, but what I found there on masonry, in terms of quantity and contents, definitely takes the biscuit.

There is no doubt that wikipedia is completely infiltrated and surely one of the most important global platforms for spreading masonic propaganda.

This is what they say about the film Forces Occultes


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It virulently denounces Freemasonry, parliamentarianism and Jews as part of Vichy's drive against them and seeks to prove a Jewish-Masonic plot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forces_occultes


The following disinformation and defamation articles on wikipedia are classified as


Part of a series on
Freemasonry



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-M...spiracy_theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic...iracy_theories


According to wikipedia you are a Jew hating "conspiracy theorist" and most probably a "holocaust denier" and "Nazi" apologist - if you don't believe what they tell you about masonry. They could not have said it more blatant: "Don't dare to expose the truth!"


I have to admit that I never trusted wikipedia, but I was shocked to realise to which massive extent it is openly undermined and nothing but a mouthpiece of the global masonic conspirators.

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Thank you for your post , I see that you understand the full importance of what the film was conveying about the dangers of freemasonry, the hidden worldwide web that encompasses the globe with it's hidden diabolical agenda. My post was directed only toward grandmasterp's post as I felt that the truth in this matter was being downplayed by it being referred to as a fantastic yarn and mind you at the time I was indulging abit .

As a person who is considered profane by those who have been intitiated into the masonic cult I have been targeted in my life by those who consider themselves 'masonically' enlightened but I will not stop when it comes to exposing the dangers and deceptions of freemasonry. It is imperative at this point in history that 'the hidden hand' be exposed to the light of truth.

...and it is true what you say about wikipedia being a mouthpiece for the global masonic conspirators.

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