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Old 10-01-2013, 10:50 PM   #1
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Lower the age of consent to just FOURTEEN, say civil servants... and let's make nudity on the streets legal too

Civil servants were asked for ideas to cut state intrusion into everyday life
'Outrageous' suggestion to lower consent age was rejected by ministers
But reforms to nudity laws are still being considered, sources say

Lowering the age of sexual consent to 14 and allowing public nudity were among the suggestions made by officials drawing up new laws on personal freedoms.

Number 10 asked civil servants to produce a list of ideas that could be included in legislation to reduce state intrusion into everyday life.

The ‘outrageous’ suggestion to lower the age of consent has been rejected out of hand by ministers and their advisers.

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Old 10-01-2013, 10:55 PM   #2
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Personal freedom???
Do me a favour!
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Old 10-01-2013, 10:58 PM   #3
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Personal freedom???
Do me a favour!
Tell me about it.

Anything to make paedophilia legal.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:06 PM   #4
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Spain's age of consent is a mere thirteen. Technically, at least.

I personally think that it should be eighteen, especially if there's an age gap of five years or more, but who really listens anyway? Now that feminism and pornography has detached love from loins, has made 'lovers' into 'sexual satisfaction objects', and has reduced sex to just another bodily function, does any of this come as a surprise?

We need to change the entire cultural and societal mindset, and from top to bottom. It's TOTALLY at odds with any spiritual connection whatsoever.

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Old 10-01-2013, 11:08 PM   #5
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Tell me about it.

Anything to make paedophilia legal.
I`m 62 and I`ve been watching this world get crazier and crazier every day accumulating momentum like a snowball speeding downhill growing larger every passing second.
Makes me almost nurture a deathwish. Makes me regret I have kids and a grandchild.
I would hate to see what it`s gonna look like in 50 years time-
Why oh why can`t we just be content with birdsong and flowers?
At fourteen the only thing I wanted was to play football and hope to find a soulmate girlfriend. Kids today want sex drugs and computers.
What will it be like in 50 years time? That is if we`re still on this planet???
And who`s causing the insanity?
Any ideas please?
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:14 PM   #6
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lower the age to 14.....then 12.........then 8......totalitarian tiptoe towards normalisation of paedophillia
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:20 PM   #7
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Lower the age of consent to just FOURTEEN, say civil servants... and let's make nudity on the streets legal too

Civil servants were asked for ideas to cut state intrusion into everyday life
'Outrageous' suggestion to lower consent age was rejected by ministers
But reforms to nudity laws are still being considered, sources say

Lowering the age of sexual consent to 14 and allowing public nudity were among the suggestions made by officials drawing up new laws on personal freedoms.

Number 10 asked civil servants to produce a list of ideas that could be included in legislation to reduce state intrusion into everyday life.

The ‘outrageous’ suggestion to lower the age of consent has been rejected out of hand by ministers and their advisers.

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That still doesn't save paedophiles like Roman Polanski:



Not saves Klaus Kinski either:

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Old 10-01-2013, 11:22 PM   #8
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lower the age to 14.....then 12.........then 8......totalitarian tiptoe towards normalisation of paedophillia
Yeah, soon they`ll be fucking foetuses in the womb. But maybe they are already?
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Yeah, soon they`ll be fucking foetuses in the womb. But maybe they are already?
Not even newborns are saved from taken shots of their genitalia.

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Yeah, soon they`ll be fucking foetuses in the womb. But maybe they are already?

Hell....your post comes sandwiched between a post(s) that contains an L Ron Hubbard quote in the signature....thats synchronicity.

Hubbard and his home abortions and soul cracking foetuses.

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I`m 62 and I`ve been watching this world get crazier and crazier every day accumulating momentum like a snowball speeding downhill growing larger every passing second.
Makes me almost nurture a deathwish. Makes me regret I have kids and a grandchild.
I would hate to see what it`s gonna look like in 50 years time-
Why oh why can`t we just be content with birdsong and flowers?
At fourteen the only thing I wanted was to play football and hope to find a soulmate girlfriend. Kids today want sex drugs and computers.
What will it be like in 50 years time? That is if we`re still on this planet???
And who`s causing the insanity?
Any ideas please?

Totally understand that mindset...but thank God I didn't have any children!
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For us younger members, we may have to live with this madness longer than the older generation.... when the older gen pass on, us younger peoples will have to try and educate the even younger ones whilst trying to save them and our grand children.

This age lowering of 14 is utter madness!!!!!
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:08 PM   #13
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Do you guys realise that in the play Romeo and Juliet both were supposed to be fourteen. So, are you saying that, were the exact same story to unfold in the UK today, on top of their other various problems, it is a great thing that the police would have taken an interest in the fact they were having sex, as neither could offer consent, in effect criminalising each of them for rape, with a theoretical maximum sentence of life imprisonment?

Of course sex without consent should be criminal at any age. But with consent, why should two fourteen-year-olds have to worry about going to prison because they want to have a sexual relationship? Romeo and Juliet on the sex offenders' register for life after being released from their respective young offenders' institutions. Is that really what you all want? Is it so outrageous to consider this change?

And increasing the age to eighteen for fuck's sake. That would have made the woman I lost my virginity to at Glastonbury festival a criminal for having sex with me when I was seventeen. That is ridiculous. Who was the victim there? How would the world be a better place if some policeman could have interrupted us in the middle of the night and hauled her off to a cell?

Speaking personally I'd have felt the same had I been fourteen. That would have been illegal, but why? I was able to decide what I wanted and what I didn't at that age so why should the police take an interest?

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For us younger members, we may have to live with this madness longer than the older generation.... when the older gen pass on, us younger peoples will have to try and educate the even younger ones whilst trying to save them and our grand children.

This age lowering of 14 is utter madness!!!!!
My message to the younger generation is:-

Fight them with all your loving power.
YOU KNOW IT`s WRONG !!!
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All those apologists in resistance's thread a bit ago should hang their heads in shame, 'it'll never happen'....no?
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Do you guys realise that in the play Romeo and Juliet both were supposed to be fourteen. So, are you saying that, were the exact same story to unfold in the UK today, on top of their other various problems, it is a great thing that the police would have taken an interest in the fact they were having sex, as neither could offer consent, in effect criminalising each of them for rape, with a theoretical maximum sentence of life imprisonment?

Of course sex without consent should be criminal at any age. But with consent, why should two fourteen-year-olds have to worry about going to prison because they want to have a sexual relationship? Romeo and Juliet on the sex offenders' register for life after being released from their respective young offenders' institutions. Is that really what you all want? Is it so outrageous to consider this change?

And increasing the age to eighteen for fuck's sake. That would have made the woman I lost my virginity to at Glastonbury festival a criminal for having sex with me when I was seventeen. That is ridiculous. Who was the victim there? How would the world be a better place if some policeman could have interrupted us in the middle of the night and hauled her off to a cell?

Speaking personally I'd have felt the same had I been fourteen. That would have been illegal, but why? I was able to decide what I wanted and what I didn't at that age so why should the police take an interest?

I never expected such a stupid post from you, ponzi.
This is not a matter of law...It`s a matter of whose making the law.
The lawmakers are out to convince us that if it can be permissible in a court of law, then it`s ok for a 70 year old to fornicate a child of fourteen, as long as as it is proven that it is mutually consented.
How would unemployed, hungry, raped, drugged and brainwashed teenagers be able to defend themselves with all the cards stacked against them?
I don`t see teenagers wearing wigs on the judging bench...DO YOU?

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Old 11-01-2013, 12:28 PM   #17
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I never expected such a stupid post from you, ponzi.
This is not a matter of law...It`s a matter of whose making the law.
The lawmakers are out to convince us that if it can be permissible in a court of law that it`s ok for a 70 year old to fornicate a child of fourteen, as long as as it is proven that it is mutually consented.
How would an unemployed, hungry, raped, drugged and brainwashed teenager be able to defend itself with all the cards stacked against them?
I don`t see teenagers wearing wigs on the judging bench...DO YOU?
So two fourteen-year-olds should have to worry about the law if they have sex? What about the suggestion to raise the age to eighteen? Should the woman I lost my virginity to be retrospectively branded a sex offender?

There's nothing stupid about my post. I just happen to be a lot more libertarian than most around here it would seem. I don't like the law interfering where there is no evidence of harm or loss.

If you want more nanny state that is your view. It's not stupid. Hey, maybe you'd like cycle helmets to be a legal requirement. Let's ban drinking more than three units of alcohol a criminal offence too while we're at it.

Not stupid, just a different view.
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So two fourteen-year-olds should have to worry about the law if they have sex? What about the suggestion to raise the age to eighteen? Should the woman I lost my virginity to be retrospectively branded a sex offender?

There's nothing stupid about my post. I just happen to be a lot more libertarian than most around here it would seem. I don't like the law interfering where there is no evidence of harm or loss.

If you want more nanny state that is your view. It's not stupid. Hey, maybe you'd like cycle helmets to be a legal requirement. Let's ban drinking more than three units of alcohol a criminal offence too while we're at it.

Not stupid, just a different view.
You misunderstand.
I don`t even think it`s wrong if kindergarden toddlers want to have sex, because they`re approximately of the same age, and they don`t need laws telling them what to do.
But the laws are made by proven peddos in high places for their own sick purposes. Don`t you agree?
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Lower the age of consent to just FOURTEEN, say civil servants...
Really?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...ostcount=39420
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:49 PM   #20
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You misunderstand.
I don`t even think it`s wrong if kindergarden toddlers want to have sex, because they`re approximately of the same age, and they don`t need laws telling them what to do.
But the laws are made by proven peddos in high places for their own sick purposes. Don`t you agree?
It was civil servants asked to make suggestions "to cut state intrusion into everyday life". Ministers rejected it. I don't see dark, shadowy forces at work here.

If you take a look at the rest of the article you'll find this:

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Academics have proposed that the age of consent could be reduced from 16 to 14 – but only for young couples who are less than two years apart in age, to prevent paedophile relationships.

According to organisations such as the International Child and Youth Care Network, an age of consent of 16 criminalises more than half the teenage population and makes it hard to give them proper advice and support to prevent diseases, unwanted pregnancies and abuse.
I'd vote for such a change immediately. Even if you would not, I still fail to understand what was 'stupid' about my post. Some people around here seem to think that expressing any opinion differing from their own is 'stupid'. This is a forum. It would be a waste of time if people all agreed about everything.
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