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Old 28-10-2012, 07:02 PM   #7961
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Watch the movie again, there is some close up full frontal nudity. Unless I am getting the wrong film, but it was on BBC 2 and about a bunch of young lads stranded on an island, in black and white.
I studied the book at school in the early 1980's...it's still a "set text" for 11-14 year olds at many schools.

We were all taken to see the movie at the time. I can't recall any full nudity in it and, between the age of 11-14, you tend to remember seeing that sort of thing. I may be wrong and there was, but I don't recall it. Loin cloths yes, shots of willies no.
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:05 PM   #7962
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Whats going on at the top of the tree.....

Jimmy Savile raping children at will, everyone knows but nothing is done to stop him. Free access to abuse kids at government institutions from hospitals to schools to care homes to the BBC. According to Tom Watson, police have a large quantity of evidence proving Savile is an abuser and do nothing, missing the chance to arrest him seven times.

One of Saviles favorite haunts, Duncroft Approved School for Girls in Staines is also regularly visited by other high profile people such as movie stars and royalty.

He is put in charge of Broadmoor, has free access to dangerous patients including Peter Sutcliffe and Ronnie Kray.

Jimmy's friend Maggie Thatcher ignores Saviles known pedophilia along with the fact her closest aide is raping boys and that one of her Cabinet Ministers is involved in a Europe wide child sex ring.

The Europe wide sex ring has links to Belgium and possibly the high ranking abuse there.

Detectives are ordered to stop investigting said Europe wide sex ring, to destroy all evidence and to never speak of it again.

Members of the Pedophile Exchange Network are involved in institutionalised child rape in the social care system at Islington council (then led by Margaret Hodge) and in Wales. Prominent people from Politicians, Judges, Lawyers and Businessmen are implicated, but in both cases, nothing ever happens.

Prominent Labour Party ministers Harriet Harman and Patricia Hewitt lead the charity Liberty during its association and defense of PIE and the campaign to legalise child sex and keep child porn legal.

Members of PIE are involved in the Islington, Wales and Europe wide sex rings.

HDLG in Jersey is run as a kiddie brothel with famous and influential people, including Savile, bused in to rape the children staying there. Torture and executions are also rumored. The police investigation finds nothing.


It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out what is going on here. Still, Gary Glitter is behind bars, the police are really cracking down on this arnt they....
You're missing the tentative links to murder in Glasgow, as well as the murder of Gill Dando, links to known and 'outed' pedophiles Bill Wyman, Jagger and Townsend and Glitter, as well as possible links to the MacCans.

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I'll give this one last try.

Think 'Glasgow'...



L-R Savile, 'Bible John', G [email protected] (born in Glasgow, 1968)

Is it just me, or should I take a break from all this...?
Do we know when was SaVile in Glasgow?
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:06 PM   #7963
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And I say to you again that Jimmy was already famous when the Bible John crimes happened. There are witnesses that would have been able to recognise Jimmy, because he was famous back then.... they didn't. It wasn't him.

Things are getting daft again...
So, we can discount wigs and hair dye / hats then?
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:06 PM   #7964
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mmmm interesting 1950 rolls royce photo...
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:06 PM   #7965
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Dunno about the Roller but getting a personalised number plate in the 50s would have been pretty easy - there was no prefix or suffix letter to mess it up - just letters then numbers. Every number plate would have this pattern of characters.. The one in the photo is not exactly what would be termed 'sought after' - more of a poor man's number plate, if you ask me.

Is there any proof that it was even his? He's not just posing next to a pricey car with his initials, is he?

Wonder why in 1951 his Occupation is stated as a Company Director ?

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Old 28-10-2012, 07:07 PM   #7966
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I studied the book at school in the early 1980's...it's still a "set text" for 11-14 year olds at many schools.

We were all taken to see the movie at the time. I can't recall any full nudity in it and, between the age of 11-14, you tend to remember seeing that sort of thing. I may be wrong and there was, but I don't recall it. Loin cloths yes, shots of willies no.
I remember as it shocked me and I could not believe what I was seeing, I thought, are they really showing this on TV? and then only recently with all of this going on I thought back to it. I forgot what the film was called so did a search based on the description and "Lord of the flies" came up". You would need to watch again to prove me wrong. Maybe you watched an edited version?
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:07 PM   #7967
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Yeah, I accept that it was his motor but in terms of cherished number plates, it is a bit rubbish. JS 1, JS 2, JS11, JS 100 maybe a bit special but JS 954? There is an auction on DVLA for JS 4444 and the reserve is £2500.

And as I said, all number plates had this format so there would have been around 900 number plates with JS and three random digits and 9000 with four.

Supply and demand.
Jimmy didn't exactly surround himself with quality or stuff of good taste did he? So I would also suppose that he wasn't a 'plate snob' OR those particular numbers were of relevance to him?
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:07 PM   #7968
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Watch the movie again, there is some close up full frontal nudity. Unless I am getting the wrong film, but it was on BBC 2 and about a bunch of young lads stranded on an island, in black and white.
Maybe you are right but if so, it did not register with me.
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:07 PM   #7969
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I have a friend in Glasgow who recently discovered her next door neighbour was Frank's new girlfriend. My friend is a massage therapist and he asked for a treatment. She said he was lovely, asked her for food (seemed odd as he was staying next door but the press were hounding him a few months ago) but also very agitated and childlike. Kept apologising for no reason. Will do some digging.
Yes please do!

I know it seems sometimes we are dealing with rumour and supposition, but that is where all good investigations start. The truth will out under corss examination.

We get a 'rumour', then we go off and we put names/dates/places and see if it fits with the rest of the jigsaw. And I'm being repeatedly surprised every day by what we are unearthing!

It'll come together...
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:09 PM   #7970
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He definately had a roller and an e type in the 50/60's as there is anecdotal evidence of them being parked outside his old house in Leeds back then.
Yes he did. He definitely had a roller in the early 1960's because my dad told me he used to park it in a pub car park up in the North East whilst visiting some friend of his mother. Early 70's he still had a Jag - he used to visit another friend or relative of his mothers in the North East who lived in our street in it. 60's/70's he used to come up to the North East a lot.
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:12 PM   #7971
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The only evidence i have seen so far to link Savile to Bible John is that he looks like a police drawing and had visited Glasgow a few times in his life. To me this is evidence of nothing. If there is genuine proof linking him to these murders, in the way there is with him and Sutcliffe, then i may change my mind. Jill Dando is an interesting case, but again, where is the solid evidence liking her death to Savile? As far as i can see so far there is non and it just distracts from the crimes that we do have evidence of.

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Old 28-10-2012, 07:12 PM   #7972
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Yeah, I accept that it was his motor but in terms of cherished number plates, it is a bit rubbish. JS 1, JS 2, JS11, JS 100 maybe a bit special but JS 954? There is an auction on DVLA for JS 4444 and the reserve is £2500.

And as I said, all number plates had this format so there would have been around 900 number plates with JS and three random digits and 9000 with four.

Supply and demand.
agreed

but I think you were right on what you said first post
when you said it was quite possible that was a relevant plate of the time
it may have been you could have a plate with any 2 letters (if not taken) and a choice of 3 numbers after when ordering a new car

theres a system for this now

premium plates are like domain names or art or anything else , you kind of develop better taste as you go on
there may not have been the aftermarket to buy top plates in the 50;s like there has been for past few decades

either way he upgraded and used the js 247 in more recent years but still retained the other

costs 35 quid a year to keep the plate idle on a certificate


back on topic, he had a top roller and private plate in the 50's...............
how???
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:13 PM   #7973
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Jimmy Savile paid Miss Whiplash and thirteen-year-old friend £3 for unprotected sex in the 1960s

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Former Miss Whiplash, aka Lindi St Clair, revealed sex-fiend Jimmy Savile paid her and an underage pal £3 for unprotected sex in the 60s.



Lindi, now 60, was 15 when she and a 13-year-old friend were handed the coins by the warped Jim’ll Fix It presenter who took them to his grubby bedsit for a seedy threesome.

The runaway teens were picked up by Savile near Carnaby Street, in London, as he prowled the streets searching for young hookers.

Lindi said that the paedo DJ, who was 42 at the time, even asked her to return to his bedsit and bring more friends for a sordid romp in 1968.

Speaking from her home in Bromyard, Herefordshire, Lindi, said creepy Savile refused to wear a condom and feared he may have fathered dozens of illegitimate children with young prostitutes.

She said: “Luckily neither of us fell pregnant but it will be interesting to see how many love children come forward as there must be lots.

“His bedsit was quite messy but looked well used.

“There must be many other women who were teenage prostitutes on the streets in the 60s who Jimmy Savile must have paid for sex.

“I presume he was often in the Soho area where young girls and young boys were selling sex as a means to survive.”

Lindi once ran a kinky S&M dungeon below former Chancellor Normal Lamont’s flat in London’s Notting Hill but turned her back on the sex industry and became a newborn Christian following a near fatal car crash in 2009.

She said Savile managed to get away with his sickening crimes for so long because of the culture at the time of not recognising paedophiles as criminals.

She added: “The culture at the time was very different – you did not hear the word ‘paedophile’.

“You just called them ‘dirty old men’.

“I’ve had hundreds of them but that was the life I led.
“I recognised Savile from the TV but did not want to ask him about his identity as I might have lost the trade.

“The #3 he gave us both was a lot of money then and I put it towards a motorbike I later bought for #15.

“When we left he asked us to return with our friends but we stayed away as we were worried he might tell the police and they would have sent us home.”

Lindi, real name Marian Akin, said that she had gone public to confirm that Savile had a penchant for underage girls and to inspire others to come forward.

The former dominatrix hit headlines when she demanded new laws to protect prostitutes, but has since turned against the trade.

She said: “I had millions of pounds, but I never once had peace of mind or true friends.

“If I could live my life again I would study hard at school, go to university, get a degree and become a scientist.”
....bet she knows alot more than that but her continued health may depend on a certain level of discretion...
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:14 PM   #7974
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So, he was related to Mountbatten?

I didn't realise that he was also born on Holloween:

James Wilson Vincent Savile
(1926-10-31)31 October 1926
Amazing! Are they related?
Twins Nicholas and Tim Knatchbull were on Mountbatten's boat when it was blown up...read this - very interesting

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...crack-den.html
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lol

this doesn't add up for me............
just how the f8ck does vile manage to get a rollsroyce with a personalised plate in the 50's! by the 50's



Oscar 'Jimmy' SaVILE 1950's
Intriguing.
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Amazing! Are they related?
Nicholas Knatchbull's twin brother lost an eye when Mountbatten's boat was blown up...read this - very interesting

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...crack-den.html
i'm not sure if he was or not, i couldn't work it out from rhydra's post

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=7920

i was asking for clarity
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:18 PM   #7977
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Wonder why in 1951 his Occupation is stated as a Company Director ?

I'm intrigued by these 2 things


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Old 28-10-2012, 07:18 PM   #7978
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Actually, I think regardless of whether Jimmy's hair was blonde or dark, neither were his right colour. Look at his skin on the many pics that show his chest. His skin is super fair and filled with freckles - which often accompanies those with red hair. I'm certain his natural colour was red or at least fair/strawberry blonde.
Ok, I hadn't considered he might not be a natural blonde? This doesn't alter the fact that someone would have recognised him though. There were witnesses.
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:18 PM   #7979
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It's been staring me in the face, I didn't realise!
http://thepeerage.com/p5746.htm


Knatchbull - Mountbatton!
The name Agnes is popping up a lot.

Bearing in mind Jimmy Savile's mum was called Agnes.../...'The Duchess'...
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Old 28-10-2012, 07:19 PM   #7980
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This is o/t but what would anyone need a website like this for? http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/cinemasans.txt
is this a parody?
as soon as I saw 2001 a space oddity..big lol

i wouldnt be surprised if eyes wide shut was on there too

edit: it is on there
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