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Duke at Stoke Hospital, November 26 edition

Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh arrived at the site of the Spinal Injuries Centre at Stoke Mandeville Hospital to lay the foundation stone of the 10million project.

Prince Phillip met with members of the Jimmy Savile Trust and congratulated Mr Savile himself for the part he played in making the centre a reality. At the time only 6million of the 10million needed for the project had been raised but the Prince revealed his 'great faith in Jimmy Savile'.

Mr Savile added: "Because our faith is a fact we thought we would begin building now and pay for it afterwards."




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@Strikeback -

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Michael A. Aquino




The Temple of Set is an occultist initiatory order founded in 1975.

It is devoted to the practice and study of the left-hand path of Western esotericism.

Members call themselves "Setians".

The temple is incorporated in California

Background

The Temple of Set was consecrated in Santa Barbara, California during the summer solstice night of 21 – 22 June 1975, by Michael A. Aquino, in a "greater black magic" ritual that resulted in what believers regard as an inspired text titled The Book of Coming Forth by Night.

Aquino later stated that the name of the text is an "evident negation" of the name of the Ancient Egyptian Book of Coming Forth by Day, also known as the Book of the Dead. Aquino's working has been compared to Aleister Crowley's "Cairo Working" of 1904, which resulted in the Book of the Law, the central sacred text of Thelema.

The temple was founded by members of the Church of Satan, who left that organization in 1975 because of administrative and philosophical disagreements with its founder Anton Szandor LaVey.

The main founder, Michael Aquino, had joined the Church of Satan in 1969 and had risen rapidly in the church's hierarchy. Aquino has stated that he believed LaVey to not be merely a charismatic leader or philosopher, but to have been actually appointed by Satan himself (referring to this charismatic authority as the "Infernal Mandate") to found the church. After the split of 1975, Aquino believed LaVey had lost the mandate, which the "Prince of Darkness" then transferred to Aquino and his new organization, the Temple of Set.
Structure



The organization has been described as resembling an individualistic variation of the magical orders of 19th and early 20th century Europe, such as the Masonic lodges, Ordo Templi Orientis and the A.'.A.'.


Degrees

Setians recognize several levels or degrees of initiation, and identify their members by their degree. The degrees indicate the individual member's spiritual development and skill in magic.

The degree structure is based on that of the Church of Satan, which in turn was based on the degrees of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. The temple terms the initiations to different degrees as "recognitions", because the organization's philosophy sees that the individual member initiates himself and the temple merely acknowledges this by granting the degree.

These degrees are:[8]

Setian (First Degree)
Adept (Second Degree)
Priest / Priestess of Set (Third Degree)
Magister / Magistra Templi (Fourth Degree)
Magus / Maga (Fifth Degree)
Ipsissimus / Ipsissima (Sixth Degree)

The priesthood of the Temple of Set is restricted to members holding the third degree or higher. Full membership comes about on recognition to the second degree, which has a time frame of around two years. Most members never advance beyond the second degree, nor is this expected of them, as while the first and second degree members use the organization's teachings and tools for their own spiritual development, the priesthood involves greater responsibilities towards the organization, such as being its official representatives.

Recognition is performed by members of the priesthood. The fourth degree, which is acknowledged by the high priest/priestess, entails that the individual is so advanced in his magical skills that he is able to found his own school of magic, represented in the different orders of the temple. The fifth degree can only be awarded by the unanimous decision of the Council of Nine and by the approval of the high priest/priestess. A fifth degree member has the power to utter and define a concept which somehow affects the philosophy of the organization, such as the concept of Xeper defined by Michael Aquino in 1975. Only a handful of members have attained this degree, and most "fifth-degree" concepts defined in such a manner are no longer studied in the organization. The final sixth degree represents a Magus "whose Task is complete". This degree is held by a very select few in the temple. Any fifth-degree member can assume the sixth degree based on his own assessment.

The Temple adheres to selective membership policies; fewer than half of all applicants are accepted for membership with the two year recognition period. The Temple's membership does have a fairly large turnover rate; most members leave eventually for a wide variety of reasons. Only a minority of members remain with the Temple more than a decade. Members pay a membership fee. The Temple admits members on all continents except Antarctica, though it is largely a U.S.-based organization.

All officers and workers within the Temple of Set are volunteers. Some receive reimbursement for expenses incurred for the Temple; none receive a salary. All officers are selected from within the Priesthood.
Leadership



Since its founding in 1975, the temple has had the following high priests/priestesses:[12]

Michael A. Aquino (1975–1979, 1982–1996, 2002–2004)
Ronald K. Barrett (1979–1982)
Don Webb (1996–2002)
Zeena Schreck (2002)
Patricia Hardy (2004–)

Philosophy

Lewis and Petersen describe the organization's philosophy of being the "intellectual wing of esoteric Satanism", and that it is heavily based on the writings of Aleister Crowley and Western esotericism in general. The magical rituals of the organization are said to resemble those of the Church of Satan.

On the other hand, Granholm states that the temple can not be described as Satanic, as the figure of Satan has no prominent position in the temple's teachings and words like Lucifer, Satan or the Devil are seldom used in its internal materials. Temple materials, however, refer often to the Church of Satan and include discussion of Setianism being "evolved Satanism", and thus Granholm concludes that the temple can be characterized as an "actor in the satanic milieu".

Drury and Hume observe that the temple's philosophy reflects Aquino's academic background and preference for rational thought in contrast to LaVey's sensationalism.

The realization of the true nature of the practitioner of Setianism is termed "becoming" or "coming into being" and is represented by the Egyptian hieroglyphic term kheper, or "Xeper" (a phonetic of _Xpr_), as the Temple of Set prefers to write it. Members attempt to "to preserve and strengthen" their "isolate, psyche-centric existence[s] against the objective universe" by the practice of greater black magic.[15] This idea is in opposition to the traditional goal of Hermetic and mystical practises: the surrendering of the ego into a union with God or the universe.

The temple teaches that the true self is immortal, and Xeper is the ability to align the consciousness with the true self. Self-initiation is knowledge understood as a conjunction of intellect and intuition. The temple operates in the context of objective and subjective universes. The objective universe is the natural world and collective meaning systems, while the subjective universe is understood as the individually experienced world and meaning system.


Black magic is used by the magician to "become" by causing alterations in the psyche and the world. Lesser black magic is used to manipulate the objective, greater black magic the subjective universes.[16] Initiated members often view themselves highly and consider themselves superior beings in a path to self-deification.

The figure of Set, also called the Prince of Darkness, is understood as a real deity, but is not worshipped as a god. He is a "role model" for the adepts: a being totally apart from the objective universe.[15] Set is considered ageless and the only god with independent existence. Set is described as having given humanity through the means of non-natural evolution the "Black Flame" or the "Gift of Set": a questioning intellect which sets humans apart from nature and gives us "isolate self-consciousness" and the possibility to attain divinity.

Controversy

The organization and its leading members were vilified and criticized during the so-called Satanic Panic of the 1980s and 1990s






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Speaking of pipes and the pied piper, Savile's famous catchphrase - which he repeated ad nauseum to brainwashing effect - "as it 'appens" is an anagram of Satan's Pipe.
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And Aquino's involvement in the Franklin Scandal:


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The Franklin Scandal Tried in Civil Court

U.S. government mind control programs, like MK-Ultra and Monarch, directed against helpless victims--human guinea pigs--have been virtually ignored by the Big Media Cartel. On Feb. 27, 1999, however, U.S. District Court Judge Warren Urbom found former Franklin S&L manager Lawrence E. King guilty of numerous crimes committed against mind control victim Paul A. Bonacci.

King, serving a 15-year sentence for his role in the theft of $40 million from Franklin, an Omaha, Neb., credit union, was ordered by Judge Urbom to pay Bonacci $800,000 in compensatory damages and an additional $200,000 in punitive damages.

This legal judgement against a notorious perpetrator of satanic-ritual child abuse is unprecedented. In the Memorandum of Decision, Judge Urbom wrote, "King continually subjected the plaintiff [Bonacci] to repeated sexual assaults, false imprisonment, infliction of extreme emotional distress, organized and directed satanic rituals, forced the plaintiff to 'scavenge' for children to be a part of the defendant King's sexual abuse and pornography ring, forced the plaintiff to engage in numerous sexual contacts with the defendant King and others and participate in deviate sexual games and masochistic orgies with other minor children.

"He [Bonacci] has suffered burns, broken fingers, beatings of the head and face and other indignities by the wrongful actions of the defendant King," the judge declared. "In addition to the misery of going through the experiences just related over a period of eight years [1980-1988], the plaintiff has suffered the lingering results to the present time. "He [Bonacci] is a victim of multiple personality disorder, involving as many as 14 distinct personalities aside from his primary personality," wrote the judge.

"He has given up a desired military career and received threats on his life. He suffers from sleeplessness, has bad dreams, has difficulty holding a job, is fearful that others are following him, fears getting killed, has depressing flashbacks, and is verbally violent on occasion, all in connection with the multiple personality disorder and caused by the wrongful activities of the defendant King."

Franklin Cover-up
Bonacci's lawyer, John DeCamp, has waged a long, lonely and expensive legal campaign in exposing crimes involving an international pedophile-pornography ring.

In 1991, DeCamp filed a 12-count suit in federal court, charging 16 prominent individuals and institutions, including Lawrence E. King, Omaha World Herald Publisher Harold Andersen and the Omaha Police Department with conspiracy to deprive Paul Bonacci of his civil rights. DeCamp's suit detailed slander, false imprisonment, child abuse, assault, battery and infliction of emotional distress suffered by Bonacci.

The complex case also involved high-level politicians, business leaders, judges and police officials with connections to the drug distribution/money laundering operations known as "Iran"-Contra which goes back to then Vice-President George Bush. DeCamp, a former Nebraska State Senator, even wrote a groundbreaking book about the sordid history of the case called The Franklin Cover-Up: Child Abuse, Satanism and Murder in Nebraska.

Monarch Project
The horrendous Monarch Project "refers to young people in America who were victims of mind control experiments run either by U.S. government agencies such as the Central Intelligence Agency or military intelligence agencies," writes DeCamp. "The story told by Monarch victims--one of whom was Paul Bonacci--is that they were tortured for the purpose of creating 'multiple personalities' within them," DeCamp continues from his book. "These multiple personalities could then be programmed--as spies, 'drug mules,' prostitutes or assassins."


An article by Anton Chaitkin, quoted in the book, states that "professionals probing the child victims of 'Monarch' say there are clearly two responsible elements at work: the government/military, and cooperating satanic (or more exactly pagan) cults. These are multi-generation groups, whose parents donate their own children--who are proudly called 'bloodline' or simply 'blood' cultists--to be smashed with drugs and electric shock and shaped. Other children are kidnapped and sold into this hell, or are brought in gradually through day care situations.

"Paul Bonacci and other child victims have given evidence in great depth on the central role of Lt. Col. Michael Aquino in this depravity," continues Chaitkin. "Aquino, alleged to have recently retired from an active military role, was long the leader of an Army psychological warfare section which drew on his 'expertise' and personal practices in brainwashing, Satanism, Nazism, homosexual pedophilia and murder." DeCamp's victory in court and the million dollar judgement is a vindication of mind control survivors Paul Bonacci, Alisha Owens and others who were falsely imprisoned to keep them from testifying against their abusers.

Police and FBI Cover-Up
According to the sworn testimony of Noreen Gosch, an activist on behalf of "Missing Children," whose own 12-year-old son Johnny, a West Des Moines, Iowa paperboy kidnapped in 1991, was drugged and sold into prostitution and pornography. "There was no law on the books in Iowa or most any other state in the country specifying that the police would have to act sooner than 72 hours-even though we had five witnesses that could describe the car, the man and various details of the kidnapping. So I wrote the first piece of legislation which became the Johnny Gosch Bill.

Gosch also alleges that the FBI were active in quashing a TV expose. "Just prior to the 'America's Most Wanted' story going on the air...within a week or two of airtime, the FBI in Quantico, Virg. contacted 'America's Most Wanted' and told them to kill the story," Gosch continued. They did not want the Johnny Gosch story broadcast," she says. The only reason the story went on is because John Walsh is a personal friend, and he stood up to them, and he said this story goes. This woman does not lie. I've known her for years. We're going with the story. You can fire me afterwards. We're doing the story.

And they did the story. But the FBI tried to kill this story."

When DeCamp, the attorney, asked her if she knew why, she replied, "Well, of course. It would have opened up the biggest scandal in the United States, bigger than the Iran-Contra story. Bigger than President Clinton's infidelities." The Satanic-Military MK-Ultra Mind Control Connection Continuing her sworn testimony, Noreen Gosch spoke about "the MK-Ultra program developed in the 1950s by the CIA. It was used to help spy on other countries during the Cold War because they felt that the other countries were spying on us. It was very successful.

"...Then there was a man by the name of Michael Aquino. He was in the military. He had top Pentagon clearance. He was a Satanist. He's founded the Temple of Set. And he was also a very close friend of Anton LaVey [the late founder of the Church of Satan].

The two of them were very active in ritualistic sexual abuse. And they deferred funding from this government program to use this experimentation upon children where they deliberately split off the personalities of these children into multiples, so that when they're questioned, or put under oath, or questioned under lie detector, that unless the operator knows how to question a multiple personality disorder they turn up with no evidence.

"They use these kids to sexually compromise politicians or anyone else they wish to have control of," Gosch continued. "This sounds so far out and so bizarre. I had trouble accepting it in the beginning myself, until I was presented with the data. We have the proof. In black and white."

DeCamp asked her, "You known that Colonel Aquino was drummed out of the military?" "He was," replied Gosch. "But then there were no charges filed against him that stuck [the San Francisco Presidio child abuse allegations]...I know that Michael Aquino has been in Iowa. I know that Michael Aquino has been to Offutt Air Force Base [described by numerous victims as a center of mind control-ritual abuse]. I know that he had contact with many of these children."


Bonacci's Story
One of the most heart-rendering parts of the court transcript is the testimony of Paul A. Bonacci, the mind control victim survivor, on whose behalf DeCamp sued Lawrence E. King. Bonacci testifed that King took him on many trips to Washington, D.C., Kansas City, Chicago, Minnesota and Los Angeles, where he prostituted the kidnapped and drugged youngster to the rich and famous--and depraved.

Bonacci said that "one person I'm not afraid to talk about because Larry King always said him and this guy were on opposite ends of the field because this guy was a Democrat and Larry King was a Republican...And this guy--every time I see him on TV, my wife knows my hatred for him...His name is Barney Frank."

When asked if he "relationships" with him, Bonacci replied, "In Washington, D.C. And also I was sent to a house, I believe it was in Massachusetts in Boston where I believe it was his house because there's pictures on the wall with him and different people and stuff, that he had met I guess, but it was in his basement.

Suffering from Multiple Personality Disorder, currently called Dissassociative Identity Disorder (DID), Bonacci testified that as one of his alters called Wesley, he lured Johnny Gosch into the van when he was kidnapped.

"I went up to him, asked him [Gosch] a question," said Bonacci. "At that point he was close enough to the car where Tony [another kidnapper] had pulled up in the van and they pushed him in the car and they had a rag with chloroform in the bag that they had us stick over his face. And then put it back in the bag after he was out...We drove several miles...we met up with a station wagon and a van several times."

After switching vehicles and changing direction, the kidnapping of Johnny Gosch was over.

More Chilling Memories
When the judge asked Paul Bonacci if Lawrence E. King ever sexually abused him, he answered, "Yes, he did on numerous occasions." How many times would you estimate, the judge then asked. "Probably a couple of hundred. Within all of the different personalities. Beginning at the time I was approximately 12 or 13 years old. Up until I was about 17 or 18."

And what was his primary duty, according to directions he received from Mr. King, asked the judge. "It depended on what was needed," replied Bonacci. "Most of the time it was to compromise politicians so he could get whatever he wanted from them...If they wanted to get something passed, through the legislature or whatever, he would put some people that were against it in a compromising position, by using us boys and girls." And how often was he used at these "parties" in Washington? the judge asked.

"Kind of hard to say," replied Bonacci. "Because there were times when there would be four or five in a night. And I hardly knew, I didn't know most of them. But probably a couple of thousand times." New Ramifications Since the judgment in favor of Paul Bonacci contradicts the previous findings of the U.S. Attorney, Nebraska Attorney General, and the entire judicial system regarding the "Franklin Cover-Up,"

DeCamp has issued an open letter challenging the verdicts of the last ten years of court battles regarding this case and its principals. DeCamp wrote, "I believe that the U.S. Attorney has no choice but to either charge the witnesses with perjury having testified under oath in a federal court...or the U.S. Attorney has an obligation to investigate further into the Franklin saga and reopen matters.

"This time there are pictures [tens of thousands of pornographic photos taken by Rusty Nelson], continues DeCamp. "This time Rusty Nelson [King's former porno photographer] exists and testified completely contrary to Chief Wadman's testimony under oath to the legislature. This time Noreen Gosch validated the credibility and story of Paul Bonacci...At a minimum some Federal or State authority has an obligation to reopen the Alisha Owen case."

Alisha Owen, another mind control victim, was sent to prison for 15 years for refusing to recant her testimony against her abusers, namely former Omaha Police Chief Wadman. Despite this victory, the mind control cover-up continues-as long as Alisha Owen and others remain in prison.

And the Monarch Program? As more and more survivors appear and give eyewitness accounts of mind control atrocities, these outrageous human rights abuses-the Secret Holocaust of the 20th Century-will finally become common knowledge.

Bibliography

Constantine, Alex. Virtual Government: CIA Mind Control Operations in America (1997); $14.95; Feral House, 2532 Lincoln Blvd., Suite
359, Venice CA 90291.

DeCamp, John. The Franklin Cover-Up: Child Abuse, Satanism and Murder in Nebraska (1996); $12.95; AWT, Inc., P.O. Box 85461, Lincoln, NE 68501

Dowbenko is CEO of New Improved Entertainment Corp., and can be reached by email at: [email protected].
http://208.138.42.193/forum/a37ef8e1f479f.htm





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Remember that Jimmy Savile was linked to a paedophile brothel on Battersea Bridge Road in 1964

I also found this rather creepy description of a 1960 TV show filmed on location at Battersea Park Fun Fair, starring alleged satanist and MK-Ultra handler Sammy Davis Jr :-

"Sammy Davis Jr Meets the British (Saturday June 11th 1960, 8-9pm, ABC) 'GT' wrote, "Brian Tesler, whose first production this was for his new bosses, came through with a modest, correctly balanced show which supplied to the right degree the personality of the star. In the first and third parts Davis appeared alone doing snatches of his cabaret act and a joy it was to watch too. The middle part however was the best of all. Tesler took his cameras away from the studio to Battersea Fun Fair... it was a shade overlong and could have been trimmed by a couple of minutes... still, the sight of Davis leading the children around like a Pied Piper was a sheer joy to watch, especially the final shot of them skipping one by one across a bridge which seemed to dissolve into the distant trees. (EDIT: Battersea Bridge Road??) This sequence was followed by Davis going into a hat shop in search of a typically British outfit. Aided by Lionel Blair, who was at his best, we had a sequence rich in comedy and movement" (Note- thankfully this show survives in the ABC archive)"

SOURCE: http://www.78rpm.co.uk/tvu.htm
Lionel Blair with Jimmy Savile cruising on the QE2.



"Singer, dancer, actor, choreographer and TV presenter, he has worked with a cavalcade of stars from Sammy Davis Jnr to Tommy Cooper, Bruce Forsyth, Mike and Bernie Winters, Kenny Everett, Sir Jimmy Savile, Cilla Black, Roger Moore, Tony Curtis, Ant & Dec, Harry Hill, Peter Kay and Ricky Gervais.

Born in Montreal in 1931, the son of Lithuanian Jews Myer Ogus and Deborah (Della) Greenbaum, his parents moved to London when Lionel was a year old.

Lionel has fond memories of growing up in Tottenham and Stamford Hill.

"I had a great family life, "he recalled.

"My parents were really supportive and I was really close to my late sister Joyce.

"I went to Egerton Road School in Stamford Hill, which was near a shul. We were not particularly shulgoers, but at Pesach we got new clothes and it was nice to show them off.

"Dad learned to shave with an open razor on a balloon, but there was never any thought of following in his footsteps as a barber - and he did not want it."

Changing his name to Blair in his youth after his dad took advice from a friend, Lionel and his sister Joyce performed in London Tube shelters during World War Two and were always encouraged to entertain.

The duo went on to become a professional double act.

"At a wedding, barmitzvah or parties, Joyce and I would sing, tap dance and jitterbug," he said.

"Mum would take us to the pictures to see the musicals, but everything started when I went into acting at 12.

"I really enjoyed acting but I was 15 when dad died and we had no money so I got into a musical as it was steady work.

"Dad's death affected me tremendously because I knew suddenly I was the breadwinner."

He could never have dreamed of the success that was to follow. From the 70s to 90s, millions of TV viewers switched on to see Lionel on iconic shows such as New Faces, Name That Tune, Celebrity Squares and Give Us A Clue.

And he was also at home entertaining on classic shows like Bruce Forsyth's Generation Game, Kenny Everett Television Show, Jim'll Fix It and Surprise Surprise!


Light entertainment in the best traditions has been Lionel's forte, whether on The Royal Variety Show or at the London Palladium, but he also played cameo appearances in sitcoms as diverse as Bless This House, Birds of a Feather, Last of the Summer Wine and Extras.

Featured on This Is Your Life with Eamonn Andrews in 1974, a new generation has marvelled at Lionel's talent in more recent times during appearances on Never Mind the Buzzcocks, Ant & Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway, Britain's Got More Talent, Soapstar Superstar and Strictly Come Dancing.

And in the festive period when panto comes alive, his legions of fans have laughed along as he's taken up his favoured role of Buttons in Cinderella.

Lionel's rich lifetime of experiences are now captured in his autobiographical solo show Tap and Chat with Lionel Blair, which he is taking to the Leeds Jewish International Performing Arts Festival in June.

Although acting and singing were Lionel's first breaks, dance was not far behind.

"Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers were my heroes," he recalled. "They were so stylish and I loved the glamour surrounding them."

Lionel's big break came at the Royal Variety Command Performance at the Prince of Wales Theatre in front of the Queen Mother in 1961.

A black-and-white clip of the iconic routine with Sammy Davis Jr appears on YouTube.

During the comedy sketch Lionel is cast as a posh Saville Row-style shop assistant while Davis is an American looking to become posh. The subsequent eight-minute routine sees Lionel match the legendary US entertainer step for step to rapturous applause.

"Working with Sammy was amazing," he recalled.

"Sammy knew where I was at and was unbelievable to work with, just wonderful and in the number gave the ending to me.

"We became good friends. Meeting and performing with him was the highlight of my career."

Sammy gave Lionel a silver dollar, which he treasures. On the back reads the inscription: "To Lionel Blair. Because I dig you. Love Sammy Davis Jr."


SOURCE: http://www.jewishtelegraph.com/prof_53.html

There's also the Una Stubbs/Cliff Richard connection to Blair.

SAMMY DAVIS JR

Samuel George "Sammy" Davis, Jr. (December 8, 1925 – May 16, 1990) was an entertainer. Primarily a dancer and singer, he also had many acting roles on stage and screen, and was noted for his impersonations of actors and other celebrities. At the age of three Davis began his career in vaudeville with his father and Will Mastin as the Will Mastin Trio, which toured nationally. After military service Davis returned to the trio. Davis became an overnight sensation following a nightclub performance at Ciro's after the 1951 Academy Awards. With the trio, he became a recording artist. In 1954, he lost his left eye in an automobile accident, and several years later, he converted to Judaism.[1]

One day on a golf course with Jack Benny, he was asked what his handicap was. "Handicap?" he asked. "Talk about handicap — I'm a one-eyed Negro Jew."[5][6] This was to become a signature comment, recounted in his autobiography, and in countless articles.[7]

SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Davis,_Jr.

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I hope that you are not advocating that I give up!
Never in a million years - just we shouldn't be too surprised or put out by a negative or a lack of response.

Sorry didn't respond sooner - been out and about spreading information and kicking backsides.
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"Way back when I was completely outside the media loop, I heard rumours about Jimmy Savile; oddly, all of them revolved around his apparent fondness for acts of necrophilia, which he supposedly indulged under the cover of his voluntary work as a hospital porter; I don’t recall anything about child abuse. And I heard other rumours too, about all sorts of people, about the Queen Mother and Michael Portillo and Morrissey and Bobby Moore and Prince Edward and Bill Treacher and Jason Donovan and Patrick Moore and Kevin Keegan and Gerald Kaufman and Una Stubbs and any number of Radio One DJs. Some were accusations of serious criminal behaviour, some were about harmless quirks that, supposedly, the relevant parties preferred not to disclose. Anyone remember Scallywag magazine? The John Major story was pretty bland compared to some of the stuff they came up with."

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Remember that Jimmy Savile was linked to a paedophile brothel on Battersea Bridge Road in 1964 :-

"An earlier piece of intelligence received by Scotland Yard in 1964 was not placed on computer systems.

It said that Savile visited a paedophile brothel on Battersea Bridge Road where absconders from Duncroft were abused.

If it had been acted on at the time, Savile’s reign of abuse, which ended in 2009, could have been cut short by 45 years – saving hundreds of victims.

The 1964 note was among five allegations and two pieces of intelligence recorded against Savile during his lifetime, the probe found."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...victim-1757308

I also found this rather creepy description of a 1960 TV show filmed on location at Battersea Park Fun Fair, starring alleged satanist and MK-Ultra handler Sammy Davis Jr :-



More Battersea connections

compilation of links and info

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By the way, does this seem odd to anyone, or am I doing something wrong?

I typed in 'MI5' on the search function - sure there's normally lots - and nowt came up? I'll try again.

(lots on Meye5 though haha).
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The post was up fleetingly, my take on it was ....

The post suggested that at least two of the names on the list did not fit in with the timeline and that then therefore put doubt on the total veracity of the list. Remember that the list was Carole's words and ulterior motives may have crept in. That is not to say that the list in its entirety is wrong, we know that many on the list have since been found guilty of similar offences, just brings forward the importance of witnesses.

So if there are witnesses out there, now is the time to come forward, who knows if another opportunity for justice will ever present itself. The Fernbridge team need help to bring this to the conclusion we hope for.

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Old 09-11-2013, 08:15 PM   #77832
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The post suggested that at least two of the names on the list did not fit in with the timeline and that then therefore put doubt on the total veracity of the list. Remember that the list was Carole's words and ulterior motives may have crept in. That is not to say that the list in its entirety is wrong, we know that many on the list have since been found guilty of similar offences, just brings forward the importance of witnesses.

So if there are witnesses out there, now is the time to come forward, who knows if another opportunity for justice will ever present itself. The Fernbridge team need help to bring this to the conclusion we hope for.

If you have information connected to Operation Fairbank/Fernbridge you can call them direct on 0207 161 0500

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The investigating police (1983 raid) had a list of some 30 names. This was mentioned in MSM reports at the time, so it wasn't just Carole with a list of names.

Maybe Carole did have ulterior motives, and maybe she didn't. Personally I'd rather listen to the opinions of those who actually met and knew her, than someone who has changed their tune (and keeps creating and deleting posts about it, and deleting stuff that we all worked on, on here) and never did.

And how many witnesses do they need? They have at least 25 victims.

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The investigating police (1983 raid) had a list of some 30 names. This was mentioned in MSM reports at the time, so it wasn't just Carole with a list of names.

Maybe Carole did have ulterior motives, and maybe she didn't. Personally I'd rather listen to the opinions of those who actually met and knew her, than someone who has changed their tune (and keeps creating and deleting posts about it, and deleting stuff that we all worked on, on here) and never did.

And how many witnesses do they need? They have at least 25 victims.
Totally agree.

The post also conveniently in effect exonerated all of the main alleged perpetrators of the crimes at Richmond council.

Sorry - NOT BUYING IT.

EDIT to say this was a post made not today - it was from days or a couple weeks ago.

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The investigating police (1983 raid) had a list of some 30 names. This was mentioned in MSM reports at the time, so it wasn't just Carole with a list of names.

Maybe Carole did have ulterior motives, and maybe she didn't. Personally I'd rather listen to the opinions of those who actually met and knew her, than someone who has changed their tune (and keeps creating and deleting posts about it, and deleting stuff that we all worked on, on here) and never did.

And how many witnesses do they need? They have at least 25 victims.
Well Chris did say she was cunning and crafty in his interview, so who knows. Do we know they have 25 witnesses, Dopey? That will be great if they do.
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Well Chris did say she was cunning and crafty in his interview, so who knows. Do we know they have 25 witnesses, Dopey? That will be great if they do.
At least 25 victims who've come forward yes.
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At least 25 victims who've come forward yes.
Well, if 25 victims are prepared to be witnesses, then that is great news. I didn't know that.
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Do we know yet why Spivey has been spoken to over his website? Could this all be coming to a head?
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Totally agree.

The post also conveniently in effect exonerated all of the main alleged perpetrators of the crimes at Richmond council.

Sorry - NOT BUYING IT.

EDIT to say this was a post made not today - it was from days or a couple weeks ago.
As well as throwing Chris under a bus.
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Just a timely reminder that if Carole is deliberately painted as a completely untrustworthy, lying individual it could also conveniently throw the veracity of the entire documents into question - which may fit certain people's agendas also.

She can still be a bitch and a terrible mother but have been telling the truth, or mostly the truth, about what went on at Elm Guest House.

EDIT agree Dopes ^^ No longer 'useful'?


AND LET US REMEMBER VICTIMS OF ELM GUEST HOUSE HAVE COME FORWARD - IS HE SAYING THEY ARE LYING TOO??



'Brrr brrr.......dnt leave me hangin' on the telephone'... who's first? (wont be me!!!)

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