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Old 13-08-2013, 12:52 AM   #73861
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Default Where are William Goad's lost millions?

One of the longest associates of William Goad was Kenneth (Ken) Gorvin, who was director of many of Goad's companies and had an association with him for over 30 years.

He is named and interviewed in the BBC documentary Crime Wave transmitted6th Jan 2005.

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And by the 90s Goad was a rich
man. He was a joint owner of a huge indoor market in Cornwall. The business is worth several million.
He knew his share would be at risk if he was arrested and ordered to compensate his victims. In 1998 he
fled abroad. With a false passport Goad set about hiding not just himself but his assets too. He was now
wanted for questioning.

Secret filming

But when police approached Ken Gorvin, associate and business partner of over 30 years, he couldn't help.
Did he ever offer you any help to tell you where Mr Goad was?

SLEVIN: Certainly no information came to us to indicate where he was.

POWYS: So there was no information from Mr Govin that "Yes, I know where he is and this is where he
is"?

SLEVIN: No.

POWYS: What police didn't know was that the two men were in contact. In October 1999, while he was
on the run, Goad travelled to Spain to meet Gorvin. There they struck a deal. What exactly they agreed
isn't known, but what is clear from the company documents is that Bill Goad resigned from the business and
transferred his shares. Ken Gorvin became the sole director of a new company in which he and his family
hold all the shares.
In 2003 Goad ventured back to the UK and stayed at this hotel on the outskirts of
Plymouth, he was caught and arrested on his way back from a meeting with Gorvin and lawyers to discuss
the Cornish market's trading hours. It was then police found out Goad was booked into the hotel under his
false identity.

He was booked in under the alias.

SLEVIN: Yes.

POWYS: What name was given?

SLEVIN: The name of Gorvin was used to confirm the booking.

POWYS: So the name of Ken Gorvin was used.

SLEVIN: And to confirm the credit card booking, yes.

POWYS: Was it paid by credit card, cash? How was it paid for?

SLEVIN: It was by credit card in the name of Gorvin.

Secret filming

POWYS: Mr Gorvin declined to answer our questions saying we were acting maliciously. We wanted to
ask if he knew of Goad's false identity and how the business assets had been dispersed. At Goad's
sentencing the court heard that his money from the deal must have been secreted or hidden, and that as a
result, there was nothing left to compensate the victims. Most of those victims can't sue Goad either. The
law says victims of abuse have to sue within six years of turning 18. For Ian Gibbons it's too late, he's too
old, and he's been warned his record may put off the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority. They
make awards to victims of violent crime, but not always if they themselves have gone on to offend.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl.../crimewave.txt

As I mentioned, Goad was extremely close to Gorvin and they were in partnership in the majority of Goad's companies. Lots of chopping and changing within the companies, no doubt hiding the assets. One of the companies Cubic Vision was originally called Charlie's Adventureworld and it is this company that eventually appears to have been sold by the now sole owner Ken Gorvin before he set off for a life in Australia.

http://www.townandcountrymarkets.co....ture-land.html

I believe this to be Gorvin, married Mel Gorvin in 2008 and now living what appears to be a very comfortable life in Perth Australia.

http://au.linkedin.com/pub/ken-gorvin/26/454/6a1

https://www.facebook.com/ken.gorvin

https://www.facebook.com/mel.gorvin


Unfortunately those that were abused appear to have received no financial compensation, as the majority of Goad's millions simply disappeared.

Edit: Yes that is definitely the Gorvins as Mel Gorvin's Facebook page has a 'friend' in the name of Donna Hood who was the company secretary for almost all William Goad's companies. Perhaps she knows where the money has gone?

http://companycheck.co.uk/director/9...CHRISTINE-HOOD
http://companycheck.co.uk/director/9...CHRISTINE-HOOD
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Old 13-08-2013, 01:40 AM   #73862
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One of the longest associates of William Goad was Kenneth (Ken) Gorvin, who was director of many of Goad's companies and had an association with him for over 30 years.

He is named and interviewed in the BBC documentary Crime Wave transmitted6th Jan 2005.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl.../crimewave.txt

As I mentioned, Goad was extremely close to Gorvin and they were in partnership in the majority of Goad's companies. Lots of chopping and changing within the companies, no doubt hiding the assets. One of the companies Cubic Vision was originally called Charlie's Adventureworld and it is this company that eventually appears to have been sold by the now sole owner Ken Gorvin before he set off for a life in Australia.

http://www.townandcountrymarkets.co....ture-land.html

I believe this to be Gorvin, married Mel Gorvin in 2008 and now living what appears to be a very comfortable life in Perth Australia.
Here's an old article with Gorvin running the Cornish Market World

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/visi...#axzz2boCOIPro
This is Cornwall - August 11, 2008
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I'd suggest a sweepstake, but we're running short of known 80 year olds this time round.
80 year olds...not famous. I'm wondering Friday mornings in Leeds....
edit...scrap that, I'm about 600 pages behind again!
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http://companycheck.co.uk/director/9...s-shareholders

KENNETH JAMES GORVIN

Holly Manor, Harrowbeer Lane, Yelverton, Devon, PL20 6DY


MARKETS SOUTH WEST (HOLDINGS) LIMITED - Appointment: Active since 21/10/1999
Current Officer Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 21-10-1999
Current Secretary Name - Mr David William Wickett
Appointed - 24-11-2006
Previous Secretary Name - Mrs Donna Christine Hood
Appointed - 21-10-1999 Resigned - 24-11-2006
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INTERPARK (UK) LTD - Appointment: Active since 13/03/2008
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WINNINGTON LIMITED - Appointment: Resigned since 16/01/1996
Current Officer Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 22-09-1995
Current Secretary Name - Ms Donna Christine Hood
Appointed - 16-01-1996
Previous directors and secretaries
Previous Director Name - COMPANY DIRECTORS LIMITED
Appointed - 20-09-1995 Resigned - 22-09-1995
Previous Director Name - Mr William Alexander Goad
Appointed - 22-09-1995 Resigned - 16-11-2000
Previous Secretary Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 22-09-1995 Resigned - 16-01-1996
Previous Secretary Name - TEMPLE SECRETARIES LIMITED
Appointed - 20-09-1995 Resigned - 22-09-1995
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CORNISH MARKET WORLD LIMITED - Appointment: Resigned since 14/07/1999
Current directors and secretaries
Current Officer Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 10-12-1996
Current Secretary Name - Mr David William Wickett
Appointed - 24-11-2006
Previous directors and secretaries
Previous Director Name - COMPANY DIRECTORS LIMITED
Appointed - 10-12-1996 - Resigned - 10-12-1996
Previous Director Name - Mr William Alexander Goad
Appointed - 10-12-1996 Resigned - 28-10-1999
Previous Secretary Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 10-12-1996 Resigned - 14-07-1999
Previous Secretary Name - Mrs Donna Christine Hood
Appointed - 14-07-1999 Resigned - 24-11-2006
Previous Secretary Name - TEMPLE SECRETARIES LIMITED
Appointed - 10-12-1996 Resigned - 10-12-1996
...
DIRECT VENTURES LIMITED - Appointment: Resigned since 14/07/1999
Current directors and secretaries
Current Officer Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 11-07-1991
Current Secretary Name - Mrs Donna Christine Hood
Appointed - 14-07-1999
Previous directors and secretaries
Previous Director Name - ELK (NOMINEES) LIMITED
Appointed - 11-04-1991 Resigned - 03-07-1991
Previous Director Name - Mr Keith Laurence Webb
Appointed - 03-07-1991 Resigned - 28-02-1994
Previous Director Name - Mr William Alexander Goad
Appointed - 11-07-1991 Resigned - 28-10-1999
Previous Secretary Name - ELK COMPANY SECRETARIES LIMITED
Appointed - 11-04-1991 Resigned - 03-07-1991
Previous Secretary Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 03-07-1991 Resigned - 14-07-1999
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TORMOUTH LIMITED - Appointment: Resigned since 31/08/1996
Previous directors and secretaries
Previous Director Name - Mr Keith Laurence Webb
Appointed - 13-08-1992 Resigned - 28-02-1994
Previous Director Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 13-08-1992 Resigned - 31-08-1996
Previous Director Name - Mr William Alexander Goad
Appointed - 13-08-1992 Resigned - 31-08-1996
Previous Secretary Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 13-08-1992 Resigned - 31-08-1996
...
CUBIC VISION LTD. - Appointment: Resigned since 30/04/1996
Current Officer Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 28-06-1995
Current Secretary Name - Mr David William Wickett
Appointed - 24-11-2006
Previous Director Name - COMPANY DIRECTORS LIMITED
Appointed - 28-06-1995 Resigned - 28-06-1995
Previous Director Name - Mr William Alexander Goad
Appointed - 28-06-1995 Resigned - 30-04-1996
Previous Secretary Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 28-06-1995 Resigned - 30-04-1996
Previous Secretary Name - Mrs Donna Christine Hood
Appointed - 30-04-1996 Resigned - 24-11-2006
Previous Secretary Name - TEMPLE SECRETARIES LIMITED
Appointed - 28-06-1995 Resigned - 28-06-1995
...
MARKETS SOUTH WEST (PLYMOUTH) LIMITED - Appointment: Dissolved
Current Officer Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 17-03-1994
Current Officer Name - Mr William Alexander Goad
Appointed - 17-03-1994
Previous Director Name - COMBINED NOMINEES LIMITED
Appointed - 17-03-1994 Resigned - 17-03-1994
Previous Director Name - COMBINED SECRETARIAL SERVICES LIMITED
Appointed - 17-03-1994 Resigned - 17-03-1994
...
BARBICAN DISCOUNTS OF PLYMOUTH LIMITED - Appointment: Dissolved
Current Officer Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 30-09-1991
Current Officer Name - Mr William Alexander Goad
Appointed - 30-09-1991
Current Secretary Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 30-09-1991
Current Secretary Name - Ms Donna Christine Hood
Appointed - 16-01-1996
...
MARKETS SOUTH WEST LIMITED - Appointment: Dissolved
Current Officer Name - Mr Keith Laurence Webb
Appointed - 30-06-1991
Current Officer Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 30-06-1991
Current Officer Name - Mr William Alexander Goad
Appointed - 30-06-1991
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BARBICAN PROPERTY ASSOCIATES LIMITED - Appointment: Dissolved
Current Officer Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 30-06-1991
Current Officer Name - Mr William Alexander Goad
Appointed - 30-06-1991
...
ESTATE AND LEISURE ASSOCIATES LLP - Appointment: Dissolved
Current Officer Name - Mr Kenneth James Gorvin
Appointed - 23-01-2006
Current Officer Name - Ms Melanie Jane Gorvin
Appointed - 23-01-2006
...

http://www.hampshirechronicle.co.uk/..._City_Council/
Hampshire Chronicle - 16th September 2011
Businessman attacks delays at 'bureaucratic' Winchester City Council

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ce-minute.html
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http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/conten...k-thompsons-ny
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http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland...ns-health-camp
New Zealand News - August 13 2013

Allegations of abuse at Childrens Health Camp

A complaint has been received about a camp in Rotorua for disadvantaged and troubled young people.

It's from a former employee and dates back to 2000.

The man alleges some staff at the Princess of Wales Children's Health Camp and School, now known as Te Puna Whaiora Ki Rotorua, physically abused some children.

The Ministry of Social Development says it's received information from him through the contact centre.

A spokesperson says they're clarifying the information to determine whether it is a matter for the Ministry of Health or for police.
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http://www.euronews.com/2013/08/13/a...edophile-ring/

NewsArgentine police smash a global paedophile ring

Police in Argentina have arrested 30 suspected paedophiles resulting in the break up of a global child pornography ring which spread across Latin America to Europe.
Video cameras, 15,000 compact discs and computers were all seized from a distribution centre. The images were were distributed across the world via the internet.

The children involved ranged from two to 12-years-old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8uv7_X0RVo

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Walter Ballantyne

Still blatantly at it in 2000.
I haven't yet found anything more about him since that article. Nothing.
How many children has he abused in the 23 years since his release in 1990?
He hasn't kept out of trouble. He just hasn't been caught.

Echos of Warwick Spinks here. Another expose, information and another dossier given or made available to the police and nothing done!


http://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+EV......-a063899413

2000 > August > 6 > The People (London, England)

THE EVIL PIEDPIPER; While rest of the world talks about paedophiles, takes action This is one of the worst child sex beasts in Britain playing harmonica to lure innocent children at a water park. He is not on the sex offenders' list, he uses a false name. And he says: This is paradise...

YOUNG boys gather round in delight as the chatty, cuddly older man entertains them with his harmonica. It looks like an innocent family scene at a riverside leisure park. But we can reveal that the harmonica player is a convicted paedophile who was once a member of Britain's worst child-sex gang dubbed The Dirty Dozen.

Pot-bellied pervert Walter Ballantyne, 60, booked into the leisure park under a false name. And like an evil pied piper he used his harmonica and magic tricks to entrap youngsters for sex abuse.

Mums and children at the picnic benches were blissfully unaware the harmless-looking "entertainer" has a long history of molesting young boys and is a deadly accomplice of Britain's most hated men, child-sex killers Sidney Cooke, Lennie Smith and Robert Oliver.

Ballantyne's perverted gaze lingered for hours over the half-naked boys at Roydon Mill leisure park and camp site in Hertfordshire.

But the slimeball was unaware that HE was being watched - by Sunday People investigators. He openly admitted to us at the campsite that he was there to hunt child victims, and told us how he'd changed his name to evade police. He also sickenly boasted of getting away with abusing a string of young children over the last 10 years.

But while the rest of Britain agonised over what to do about the paedophile threat, this newspaper took firm action to halt Ballantyne's disgusting behaviour. We had him: BOOTED out of the leisure park. WARNED other leisure sites in the area of his evil presence.

TIPPED OFF the police child protection unit in East London, where Ballantyne lives, that this vile sexual predator is on the prowl once more hunting children. Mum-of-two Julie French, 42, who was on a three-day break at Roydon Mill with another single mum and a total of four children, told us: "You can't imagine how pleased we were when you got rid of him. "Call it a mother's instinct, but I thought there was something strange about him. "He spent hours just staring at my kids and kept walking past our tent playing a harmonica.

"We warned the kids to stay away from him but he was very persistent and started to turn nasty when we called the kids away from him." Her friend Julie White, 37, added: "We were getting scared. Whenever we looked around he seemed to be there." The authorities lost track of serial-offender Ballantyne years ago.

Because his last conviction was before 1997 he is not required to sign the Sex Offenders' Register and police have been powerless to monitor his movements. He has served three jail terms for abusing young boys - the last in 1987 when he got six years as ring-leader of a child-sex network which preyed on runaways. The boys had been hawked around "safe houses" and passed on to other members of the gang which included council porter Alfred Goddard, father of 1980s pop star Adam Ant. Since then Ballantyne, who now calls himself Mark Bailey, appears to have kept out of trouble.

But theSunday People can reveal that his sickening behaviour has not changed. The vile pervert has been an active paedophile since his release from prison in 1990. He keeps a low profile but regularly meets other members of the Dirty Dozen paedophile gang who are now free and living in the same area.

Our investigators got on Ballantyne's trail at a London street market where he runs a stall selling kiddies' harmonicas and toys. He lives in a grubby bedsit in East London where neighbours are unaware of his squalid history. He told our investigators: "Since getting parole after my last spot of trouble I have changed my name a few times and moved around."I still like chickens (perverts' slang for under-age boys) but I don't get the opportunities I did in the old days.

"I haven't been caught for years now and I want to keep it that way. "Cruising is a lot more difficult than it used to be. Now they are closing down all the cottages (public toilets) you only have the parks and swimming pools left." Ballantyne sells his cheap harmonicas at various street markets in London.

He bragged: "I have learned to play a few tunes myself to entertain the kids. "I only have to sit down somewhere and start playing and soon they are all around me. "Parents warn them about not approaching strangers but the kids love my music and party tricks." Frighteningly, the pervert gets young boys to help him at Sunday markets by offering them free toys.

Ballantyne boasted: "I have got this 11-year-old Bengali boy in tow at the moment. "He has worked for me for a year although I haven't tried anything...yet. "At my time of life I have got plenty of patience and can wait till I make sure the time is right. "He wants to go bike riding with me so one day I'll take him somewhere quiet." The pervert added: "I am going away for a few days to another holiday park in Hertfordshire next week and I wish I could take him with me.

"I have been there before and there is a lot of potential. "They have got everything - playground, paddling pool and sandy beach. "I am not on the sex offenders' register but even so I hope no one drags my name up again." Unlike other holidaymakers at Roydon Mill, Ballantyne turned up without any fishing tackle, sports or picnic equipment. He pitched his tentwithin yards of a group of children playing shuttlecock on the riverbank.

He then headed off to watch youngsters swimming and riding boats on the lake and finally settled at a picnic bench in the centre of the crowded artificial beach. Ballantyne sat staring for hours, transfixed by children clambering about on the swings and climbing frames. He decided to try to attract their attention by striking up a tune on one of his harmonicas.

He told our undercover investigator: "This is a great place for kids and sometimes the temptations drive me crazy.

"The last time I was here I met two boys aged 11 and six. "I wanted to see them again but they checked out the next day. "Then there was this l5-year-old from Switzerland who bought a harmonica from me." Ballantyne added: "I have often fancied going abroad to have a look around.

"I have got a pal who lives in Leytonstone and goes out to Africa all the time. "He has a great time because he says he is much more relaxed. "Here it is difficult when you know you are doing wrong and might getcaught." The disgusting pervert spent time lurking around the park's shower and toilet unit. He paused to watch a lad in his early teens struggling to put on a pair of bathing shorts behind a bush. Our sickened investigators decided they had enough evidence to have Ballantyne thrown out and we alerted the park management.

The appalled owner of Roydon Mill, Dave Davison, immediately sent staff to escort him away from the children's beach area and stood watching him pack up and leave. He was refunded his money for the planned three-night stay and told in no uncertain terms not to return.

His description and a warning were then circulated to other holiday camp sites within the Lea Valley Regional Park.

The Sunday People dossier on Ballantyne's sordid activities is available to Scotland Yard's Paedophile Unit and Tower Hamlets borough council which grants him the licence to run his market stall.
Me neither. Tried under Mark Bailey too, nada. What I - almost - find the most sickening about this is that he has changed his name, on his own confession, more than once. How? Legitimately? Off the record? Because if legitimately, in no way should convicted abusers be able to do so legitimately imo. And this piece of crock?

Probably explains why we've found nothing else, at least in the later years, about him. Still stinks so little about him pre - this though and around conviction.

And yes, still blatantly at it with echoes of Spinks' protection/ authority malaise. Aaaaargghhh!!! This can be so damned frustrating!!

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Maybe it's just me, but what a badly written, ambiguous article this is!

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Murun; 'Suffer the Little Children 2"

http://spotlightonabuse.files.wordpr...8/pe140696.jpg

(a note from within)

"Mr Garsden is amazed at the complacency of the authorities. The police on Merseyside, where most of the serious offences took place, will not help him with information".

You're not kidding! Even on that basic FOI I did for their reports it was a battle of semantics. 'It doesnt exist as this', 'its this, not that', 'it was never our op' etc etc. Just give me the blinking details!

@Sweetcheeks - sickeningly complicated hiding of the assets. Exactly right - the victims need to see some of that.

Off for a lie down!

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This thread seems to have completely strayed away from its original intent. Over that last month or two the vast majority of input is totally irrelevant, and quite frankly is becoming extremely boring. Its no wonder that its dying on its feet, most of the members seem to have deserted long ago.

What would Anders have said ?

I know what he would have said - All of the evidence is in the first 400 pages.
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http://www.expressandstar.com/news/u...unt-met-chief/


Britain's most senior police officer has dismissed claims that the investigation prompted by the Jimmy Savile abuse scandal has turned into a witch hunt.
Seems like a decent kind of bloke, speaking out on this . ?

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This thread seems to have completely strayed away from its original intent. Over that last month or two the vast majority of input is totally irrelevant, and quite frankly is becoming extremely boring. Its no wonder that its dying on its feet, most of the members seem to have deserted long ago.

What would Anders have said ?

I know what he would have said - All of the evidence is in the first 400 pages.
Dying on its feet? Have you been watching unfolding events lately?
Havent seen you round much for that matter.
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'Witch hunt' - that's an original one.

To stop people moaning about poor old octogenarian has-been celebs being hounded, why don't they go and arrest someone a bit higher up?
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Dying on its feet? Have you been watching unfolding events lately?
Havent seen you round much for that matter.

Now you know the reason why. But I still do the thread backups for you all.
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Agreed Marlowe. It's paint by numbers this whole charade. Every move is transparent.

There has now been ample time for higher up arrests to have been made - but nothing. Nothing. It is testament to the people here that after 11 months they have not given up the fight to try do their little bit and highlight the crap.

Is it time to start putting something into action with groundforce and publicity?
It would need a massive effort and campaign - but unless they start doing something it looks like a last option.
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Now you know the reason why. But I still do the thread backups for you all.
Well that's fine, and yes, we are all very grateful for your back ups I'm sure, thank you, I am too, but perhaps instead of the negative comments you could come here with some positive input, commit some time, and highlight the work you yourself would like to see arise from the first 400 pages? I for one would be very grateful of another voice here.
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However, Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe defended the probe, Operation Yewtree, saying sex crime claims could not be ignored.

He said: "I don't think it's a witch hunt at all, we're just going where the evidence takes us and victims are making allegations. The alternative is to ignore them, and if you look at Yewtree the broad allegation is that they have been ignored for 20, 30 years and if we were to ignore them now that would just compound the issue.

"These things are hard to investigate. Obviously it's a serious issue for the suspect who's under investigation after that time, but we don't take these things on lightly, and we do try to keep it confidential.

"If you look at all the debate there's been about Jimmy Savile, for example, this man for 30 years appears to have attacked many victims and no one listened. Is it wrong to pursue it now?"

On Monday, an 80-year-old man became the 14th person to be arrested under Operation Yewtree, which was launched in the wake of abuse claims against the late TV presenter Savile.
We can't argue with that can we?

Now just go out and get the important ones
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We can't argue with that can we?

Now just go out and get the important ones
I think the constant re bailing of suspects is also fuelling the witch hunt debate. Exactly where they wanted this to go - lack of charges and re bailings- make everyone look innocent or suggest an apparent lack of evidence.
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This thread seems to have completely strayed away from its original intent. Over that last month or two the vast majority of input is totally irrelevant, and quite frankly is becoming extremely boring. Its no wonder that its dying on its feet, most of the members seem to have deserted long ago.

What would Anders have said ?

I know what he would have said - All of the evidence is in the first 400 pages.
It stands to reason that the majority of information was accumulated earlier on, however in amongst our latest ramblings, little gems are still appearing every now and then. We have also been putting pressure on the Attorney General (thank you Iwantthetruth) and achieving some reassessments of lenient cases. We have also been bringing links from other great websites, such as Needleblog, to spread the information. It is my opinion that we continue to ensure that tptb do not think we have run out of steam. We are not going to give up, we are here for the long haul.
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