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Old 06-02-2012, 02:33 PM   #1
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Arrow Syria uprising/Thousands Slaughtered

Syria Regime slaughtering its own citizens...Like Father like son

The death toll in the Syrian uprising has soared to at least 3,500 people, the United Nations said, the result of a military crackdown that has bloodied city after city but failed to crush the 8-month-old revolt against President Bashar Assad's regime.




Syria occupies a vital strategic position in the Middle East, serving as Iran's only Arab ally and providing a supply route for Hizbollah in Lebanon. This means that the stakes in the current crisis are exceptionally high, says Jonathan Eyal, head of international security studies at the Royal United Services Institute. Breaking the alliance between Syria and Iran is a "crucial strategic objective" for the leading Arab powers, he added. "They cannot now allow Assad to triumph as that would be seen as a victory for Iran," said Mr Eyal.


Clearly there is a tragedy unfolding in that country....

Russia and China are protecting a regime that is killing thousands of people. We find their position incomprehensible and inexcusable.

Homs is under heavy artillery assault in what has been described as the fiercest attack during the 11-month uprising. ...thousands killed..


http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/spotlight/syria/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ng-latest.html
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:36 PM   #2
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Arrow 2011–2012 Syrian uprising

The 2011–2012 Syrian uprising is an ongoing internal conflict in Syria, a part of the wider Arab Spring. Public demonstrations first took place on 26 January 2011, but were only a sporadic occurrence until mass protests erupted in Daraa on 15 March.The situation quickly developed into a full-scale nationwide uprising, with protesters demanding the resignation of President Bashar al-Assad and the overthrow of the government. The situation in Syria is part of the Arab Spring, a wave of social upheaval throughout the Arab World demanding greater political freedom and an end to autocracy. Inspired by the successful revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt, Syrian protesters have employed the use of tactics such as marches, hunger strikes, rioting, and vandalism, in a sustained campaign of civil resistance aimed at ending nearly five decades of Ba’athist rule. The uprising was described as "unprecedented" by several political commentators.

As protests continued, the Syrian government began deploying tanks and snipers as a means to quell the uprising. Water and electricity have been shut off in particularly restive areas, and security forces have resorted to confiscating flour and food. The Syrian Army has besieged the cities of Daraa, Duma, Baniyas, Hama, Homs, Aleppo, Talkalakh, Idlib, Rastan, Jisr ash-Shughur, Deir ez-Zor, Zabadani and Latakia, among other towns. According to witness accounts, soldiers who have refused to open fire against civilians were summarily executed by the Syrian Army.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:42 PM   #3
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Then tell the USA and Israel to stop organising it! Tell them to stop the killing.

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Old 06-02-2012, 02:42 PM   #4
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Beirut: In a barrage of mortar shells, Syrian forces killed 200 people and wounded hundreds in Homs in an offensive that appears to be the bloodiest episode in the nearly 11-month-old uprising, activists said Saturday.

The assault in Homs, which has been one of the main flashpoints of opposition during the uprising, comes as the U.N. Security Council prepares to vote on a draft resolution backing an Arab call for President Bashar Assad to give up power.

Two main opposition groups, the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and the Local Coordination Committees, said the death toll in Homs was more than 200 people in shelling that began late Friday. More than half of the killings - about 140 - were reported in the Khaldiyeh neighbourhood.

"This is the worst attack of the uprising, since the uprising began in March until now," said Rami Abdul-Rahman, the head of the Observatory, which tracks violence through contacts on the ground.

The reports could not be independently confirmed.

It was not immediately clear what precipitated the attack, but there have been reports that army defectors set up checkpoints in the area and were trying to consolidate control.

Earlier on Friday, deadly clashes erupted between government troops and rebels in suburbs of the Syrian capital and villages in the south, sparking fighting that killed at least 23 people, including nine soldiers, activists said.

Assad is trying to crush the revolt with a sweeping crackdown that has so far claimed thousands of lives, but neither the government nor the protesters are backing down and clashes between the military and an increasingly bold and armed opposition has meant many parts of the country have seen relentless violence.

The U.N. Security Council will meet Saturday morning to take up a much-negotiated resolution on Syria, said a diplomat for a Western nation that sits on the council.

The diplomat spoke Friday on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to be quoted by the media.

The move toward a vote came after Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke by telephone with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in an effort to overcome Russian opposition to any statement that explicitly calls for regime change or a military intervention in Syria.

The U.S. and its partners have ruled out military action but want the global body to endorse an Arab League plan that calls on Assad to hand power over to Syria's vice president.

Russia's deputy foreign minister, Gennady Gatilov, said Friday that Moscow could not support the resolution in its current form. But he expressed optimism that an agreement could be reached, according to state news agency RIA Novosti.

Assad's regime has been intensifying an assault against army defectors and protesters. The U.N. said weeks ago that more than 5,400 people have been killed in violence since March. Hundreds more have been killed since that tally was announced.


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Old 06-02-2012, 02:45 PM   #5
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Tell the USA & Israel to stop the killing! Tell the UK and UN to stop backing them up!








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Old 06-02-2012, 02:50 PM   #6
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Pretty crazy how inefficient they are at killing compared to the U.S.. NATO killed at least 10 times as many in Libya.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:53 PM   #7
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Then tell the USA and Israel to stop organising it! Tell them to stop the killing.

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Lets see your evidence then..instead of making silly claims without anything to back your claims up ...no suprise there then..its always the same crew, maybe you are taking a leaf out of russia and chinas books.

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Pretty crazy how inefficient they are at killing compared to the U.S.. NATO killed at least 10 times as many in Libya.
Evidence to back up your claims...otherwise zip it.

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Old 06-02-2012, 02:53 PM   #8
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Pretty crazy how inefficient they are at killing compared to the U.S.. NATO killed at least 10 times as many in Libya.
They don't have nearly as much practice or weaponry.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:55 PM   #9
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Arrow Like father like son

The Hama massacre (Arabic: مجزرة حماة‎) occurred in February 1982, when the Syrian army, under the orders of the country's president, Hafez al-Assad, conducted a scorched earth operation against the town of Hama in order to quell a revolt by the Sunni Muslim community against the regime of al-Assad. The Hama massacre, supervised in person by President Assad's younger brother, Rifaat al-Assad, effectively ended the campaign begun in 1976 by Sunni Islamic groups, including the Muslim Brotherhood, against Assad's regime, whose leaders were disproportionately from president Assad's own Alawite sect.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:56 PM   #10
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Wow, you fell for it, lightgiver. No wonder, we are seeing a bigger propaganda machine in action than in Libya and compared to the few lies about Iraq then, it is truly astronomical.

Or you are getting paid by some agency or NGO to perpetuate this. Maybe, maybe not - i have read some of your post and you are certainly one of the most controversial posters on here along with entrangermercenary and the like.

Either way, your posts in this thread are not helping any Syrian except some power and money greedy expatriates that will be bombed into office, because we all know how it will play out in the end.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:58 PM   #11
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Arrow Hama massacre

Initial diplomatic reports from western countries stated that 1,000 were killed. Subsequent estimates vary, with the lower estimates claiming that at least 10,000 Syrian citizens were killed, while others put the number at 20,000 , or 40,000 (Syrian Human Rights Committee). About 1,000 Syrian soldiers were killed during the operation and large parts of the old city were destroyed. Alongside such few events as the Black September Massacre in Jordan, the attack has been described as one of "the single deadliest acts by any Arab government against its own people in the modern Middle East". The vast majority of the victims were civilians....

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Hafez al-Assad (right), president of Syria. His brother Rifaat al-Assad (left) personally supervised the operation

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Old 06-02-2012, 03:05 PM   #12
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Just because Syria is an enemy of the NWO led U.S. doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to the atrocities that are going on there.

Maybe this is all playing out as TPTB wish but it doesn't mean we can condone what is being done to innocent people.
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Just because Syria is an enemy of the NWO led U.S. doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to the atrocities that are going on there.

Maybe this is all playing out as TPTB wish but it doesn't mean we can condone what is being done to innocent people.
I agree with this, but it's really up to the Syrian people to rise up. That may sound heartless, but many revolutions have occurred in history from unlikely circumstances. We saw Susan Rice (Trilateral Commission member) decrying the situation yesterday, but she will presumably know that the country that she is representing have overthrown democratically elected governments and replaced them with military dictatorships all over the world for decades, and therefore, firstly, has no moral credibility to dictate what goes on in Syria, and secondly, we would have to be seriously suspicious of their motives for getting involved. It's really a matter for the Syrian people to deal with.
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:15 PM   #14
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Arrow authoritarian government

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The authoritarian government was not without its critics, though open dissent was repressed. A serious challenge arose in the late 1970s, however, from fundamentalist Sunni Muslims, who reject the basic values of the secular Baath program and object to rule by the Alawis, whom they consider heretical. From 1976 until its suppression in 1982, the arch-conservative Muslim Brotherhood led an armed insurgency against the government. In response to an attempted uprising by the brotherhood in February 1982, the government crushed the fundamentalist opposition centered in the city of Hama, leveling parts of the city with artillery fire and leaving between 10,000 and 25,000 people either dead or wounded, mostly civilians.


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Arrow Russia and China veto UN resolution on Syria

Russia and China braved Arab and Western fury tonight by vetoing a UN resolution calling on President Bashar al-Assad to step down.

The two powers'(yet Again through self interest) refusal to back an Arab League plan for Syria came despite the vote coming within hours of the worst single act of violence in the 11-month uprising.

Days of tortuous negotiations led to a final act of brinkmanship as Russia said it could not support a resolution backing an Arab League plan for a swift transition of power and elections. It was said to have demanded a last-minute change dropping a call, already agreed by Syria in November, for tanks and artillery to be withdrawn from the streets.

That was rejected outright by Western governments after residents of Homs reported an extraordinary bombardment overnight by mortars and heavy artillery, shattering houses and sending the injured and dying flooding to hospitals and makeshift clinics. At least 200 were killed, with some activists giving figures as high as 330.

"This is a new massacre to add to the other Assad regime massacres,
" a lawyer and activist in the city who gave his name as Abu Jihad told The Sunday Telegraph. "We ask for international intervention to stop this."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-on-Syria.html

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Arrow Syria And Russia Discuss New Weapons Deal


Saudis to get Russian missiles instead of Iran...


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Arrow Russia Refuses To Sell Syria Cutting-Edge Iskander


Months after offering Russia the opportunity to deploy long-range ballistic missiles in his country, Syrian President Bashar Assad was informed this week that Moscow will not sell its Iskander missiles to foreign clients due to delays in production.

According to a reports Russias state arms exporter has decided that despite interest from a number of countries, including Syria, Moscow will not export the Iskander missile until the Russian Armed Forces are fully equipped with the system.
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Lets see your evidence then..instead of making silly claims without anything to back your claims up ...no suprise there then..its always the same crew, maybe you are taking a leaf out of russia and chinas books.



Evidence to back up your claims...otherwise zip it.

Evidence to back up your claims...otherwise zip it.[/QUOTE]
Evidence to back up your claims...otherwise zip it.[/QUOTE]
Evidence to back up your claims...otherwise zip it.[/QUOTE]





Arab league monitors find slaughter in Syria the work of foreign-backed subversives
A report by the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) based on a one month inquiry by 160 monitors failed, as Pepe Romero reports in the Asia Times, to conclude that:

... the "evil" Bashar al-Assad government is indiscriminately, and unilaterally, killing its own people, and so regime change is in order.

So the report was either ignored (by Western corporate media) or mercilessly destroyed - by Arab media, virtually all of it financed by either the House of Saud or Qatar. It was not even discussed - because it was prevented by the GCC from being translated from Arabic into English and published in the Arab League's website.

Until it was leaked. Here it is, in full.

The report is adamant. There was no organized, lethal repression by the Syrian government against peaceful protesters. Instead, the report points to shady armed gangs as responsible for hundreds of deaths among Syrian civilians, and over one thousand among the Syrian army, using lethal tactics such as bombing of civilian buses, bombing of trains carrying diesel oil, bombing of police buses and bombing of bridges and pipelines.

... So the current "Arab-led drive to secure a peaceful end to the 10-month crackdown" in Syria at the UN is no less than a crude regime change drive. Usual suspects Washington, London and Paris have been forced to fall over themselves to assure the real international community this is not another mandate for NATO bombing - a la Libya. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton described it as "a path for a political transition that would preserve Syria's unity and institutions".



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Tell Israel and the USA, UK & UN






To stop the killing!!

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