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Old 10-02-2012, 11:06 PM   #141
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Hey Hasbara troll boy bet you got an expression on your face like that solider boy in your avatar while you type all that hate and bile.
What's wrong with his face?
Hold on a minute I am a troll on the thread I started...

you are totally insane herr flick.



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Old 13-02-2012, 06:37 PM   #142
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From the Africa Corps to Zyklon-B, this comprehensive dictionary provides a full background to the rise of Nazism and the role of Germany in World War II.

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Old 15-02-2012, 03:29 PM   #144
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The uniforms and insignia of the Schutzstaffel were paramilitary ranks and uniforms used by the SS between 1925 and 1945 to differentiate that organization from the regular German armed forces, the German state, and the Nazi Party.

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While a multitude of uniforms existed for the SS, often depending on the theatre of war where they were stationed, the all black SS uniform is the most well known. Black, traditionally a German colour, was seen as sombre and authoritative. The black-white-red color scheme was characteristic of the German Empire, and was later adopted by the Nazi Party. Further, black was popular with fascist movements: a black uniform was introduced by the blackshirts in Italy before the creation of the SS. There was a traditional reason, as well. Just as the Prussian kings' and emperors' life-guard cavalry (Leibhusaren) had worn black uniforms with skull-and-crossbones badges, so would the Führer's bodyguard unit. As with many more formal military uniforms, these SS uniforms were tailored to project authority, and foster fear and respect. As Himmler put it, "I know there are many people who fall ill when they see this black uniform; we understand that and don't expect that we will be loved by many people."

During the war, the German clothing factory that eventually became the international menswear powerhouse Hugo Boss produced thousands of SS uniforms using forced labour.



In 1929, under new Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler, the SS codified its first uniform regulations: the signature black color was extended to breeches, boots, armband edges, and belt and crossbelt; the shirt collar was edged in black-and-white twist cord except for those of senior leaders, which were trimmed in silver.

In 1932, the SS introduced its most notorious uniform, the black ensemble designed by Prof. Dr. Karl Diebitsch (later to become an SS-Oberführer) and graphic designer SS-Sturmhauptführer Walter Heck. The shirt remained brown as a nod to the SA, of which the SS was still nominally a part, but all else was black from high boots to the new military-style peaked cap, aside from the red armband. SS men were also issued black wool greatcoats for inclement weather, which similarly carried the armband, epaulette and collar patches. Around this time a belt buckle featuring the motto Meine Ehre heißt Treue in its design was produced by the Overhoff firm to replace the SA buckle...



In 1933, after Hitler had become Chancellor, the SS began to make more of a distinction between 'officers' and 'enlisted men;' an SS man could now only be promoted to Sturmführer with Himmler's approval, based upon the Reichsführer's personal review of the candidate's application including his career resume or lebenslauf and recommendations from current and former superior officers. Note however that this system presupposed enlisted SS membership; Himmler always detested the army's class distinctions. It was forbidden for SS men to follow the army custom of addressing superior officers by prefixing Herr to their rank, and Kamerad was an approved form of address under most circumstances.

Also in 1933, the runic "SS" runes insignia was introduced which would eventually become known as the symbol for the entire SS. The first use of the SS runes was as a unit insignia limited only to members of the Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler which had transferred their headquarters from Munich to Berlin and had replaced the Army Chancellery Guard to become Hitler’s main protectors. It was at this time that the Leibstandarte moved from being a "paramilitary" formation armed with pistols and truncheons to "military", equipped with rifles, bayonets, and steel helmets. Their SS runes unit collar patch was to be worn on the right side of the tunic collar. The adaptation of this particular unit insignia was largely the work of Sepp Dietrich who on 4 November 1933, declared the unit an independent formation and, although a part of the SS, answerable to Hitler alone. Dietrich even went so far as to forbid entrance of Himmler into the Berlin Leibstandarte barracks and, for a brief few months in 1933, ordered his Leibstandarte soldiers to wear the black uniform without a swastika armband in order to differentate the bodyguard unit from the rank and file of the Allgemeine-SS ("General SS") units throughout Germany.

A concentration camp SS-Scharführer wearing a gray-green field uniform. The silver-gray braid on the collar was used by all SS non-commissioned officers...


The staffs of concentration camps had by now standardized the death's head collar patch, whereas between 1934 and 1938 the Totenkopf as well as various camp specific collar patches, displaying Germanic letters, had been used as unit insignia. Other unit insignia collar patches included a Standarte-number patch for most of the Allgemeine-SS, a blank collar patch worn by SS main office staffs and Sicherheitsdienst (and some SiPo) personnel, the sig-runes Waffen-SS patch (adopted after 1943 as the standard unit collar patch for most of the SS), and a numbered death's head patch which was used by personnel serving in field units of the Totenkopfverbaende; the three senior Totenkopfstandarten, formed into the Totenkopf division, would retain these collar patches throughout the war, but the remaining TK-Standarten were redesignated SS-Regimenter and switched to sig-runes in February 1941. As the war went on, the Waffen-SS recruited heavily among conquered populations, creating 'ethnic' brigades and divisions. These formations wore, in place of the sig-runes, distinctive unit collar patches identifying them as Freiwilligen (foreign volunteers). In the last days of World War II, the SS also created a twin swastika collar patch which was used by the "auxiliary SS" which were non-SS members conscripted to serve in concentration camp positions.


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-- Many founding and high-ranking Nazis were homosexuals.
The evidence indicates that Adolf Hitler himself was a homosexual.
Persecution of homosexuals by the Nazis was for show to deflect from themselves and keep the German public fooled. And only feminine type homosexuals were then persecuted. The "Butch" homosexuals who founded Nazism viewed femmes as lower than heterosexuals, not even men. The persecution of a small percentage of Germany's femme gays was a public relations move to obfuscate the Nazis' own perversity and placate the German masses.

-- The Nazi movement was riddled with homosexuals at the highest level. The most obvious was Ernst Rohm, the most powerful Nazi in Germany after Hitler. Homosexuals prefer other homosexuals for company.

-- After coming to power the Nazis did not persecute homosexuals at all. They did so only when their own homosexuality began to surface to the public, especially because of the antics of the obtusely flagrant homosexualist Ernst Rohm. Hitler was in fact Rohm's early protege. The gay Rohm was Hitler's longtime right hand man, head of the violent SA, the most powerful man in Germany beside Hitler, and the man most instrumental in creating the Nazi Party and setting Hitler up.He was also a homosexualist, an open advocate homosexuality, really one of the first militant gay activists. Rohm refused to hide his homosexuality. He was even a member of an organization that pushed for the public acceptance of homosexuality. The other Nazi gays (including Hitler), were of the usual discreet and covert class.

-- When Rohm's antics and stories about homosexuality in the party became a political threat, Hitler made a show of denouncing gays. Still it was only a small percentage of the hated "femme" gays who were sent to camps. The Nazis also used the new "anti-gay" posture as a ruse to trump up charges and put away all manner of political enemy.

-- Nazism was founded by macho-style "butch" homosexuals who pursued a Greek/Hellenic ideal of warrior pederasty. With the abundant evidence of this, there can be only one reason that media powers have hidden this from the White public while otherwise demonizing Hitler and the Nazis 24-7:
The gay agenda (moral degeneracy and the destruction of the natural family) -- is far more important to these powers than is any further demonization of Hitler. This knowledge about the Nazis would harm the gay agenda. The gay agenda is central to their world-enslaving strategy. It is vital that all Whites understand this.



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On May 6, 1933, Nazi Youth of the Deutsche Studentenschaft made an organised attack on the Institute of Sex Research. A few days later the Institute's library and archives were publicly hauled out and burned in the streets of the Opernplatz. Around 20,000 books and journals, and 5,000 images, were destroyed. Also seized were the Institute's extensive lists of names and addresses of homosexuals. In the midst of the burning.






Joseph Goebbels gave a political speech to a crowd of around 40,000 people. Hitler initially protected Röhm from other elements of the Nazi Party which held his homosexuality to be a violation of the party's strong anti-gay policy. However, Hitler later changed course when he perceived Röhm to be a potential threat to his power. During the Night of the Long Knives in 1934, a purge of those whom Hitler deemed threats to his power took place. He had Röhm murdered and used Röhm's homosexuality as a justification to suppress outrage within the ranks of the SA. After solidifying his power, Hitler would include gay men among those sent to concentration camps during the Holocaust.


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Just one question: Who has been writing the history ever since 1945?
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Old 16-02-2012, 07:20 PM   #150
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Arrow War Witness: I deserted Nazi army on day one

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RT presents War Witness - a special project dedicated to the 65th anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany. World War II veterans and survivors recount their stories about the war - from how it began to how it ended. Henri Schaub is a Frenchman from Alsace, a French province annexed by Germany in 1940. He was forcibly drafted into the German army. People like him were labelled 'malgré-nous', which means 'in spite of our will'. Schaub deserted the same day he arrived on the Eastern Front. He became a Soviet PoW, and made a long journey from Russia to the Middle East and Europe to join Allied forces fighting the Germans until the end of the war.

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RT presents War Witness - a special project dedicated to the 65th anniversary of the Victory in the Second World War. World War II veterans recount their stories about the war - from how it began to how it ended. Vladimir Zhilkin, a junior artillery lieutenant from Russia, remembers how they saw German boys with weapons marching on them. At that time Russian soldiers did not know what to do. They were from the Hitler Jugend, which took part in the Berlin defense effort as part of the Nazis forces.
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Old 17-02-2012, 04:29 PM   #151
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Arrow Hitler 'had Jewish and African roots', DNA tests

Saliva samples taken from 39 relatives of the Nazi leader show he may have had biological links to the “subhuman” races that he tried to exterminate during the Holocaust.

Jean-Paul Mulders, a Belgian journalist, and Marc Vermeeren, a historian, tracked down the Fuhrer’s relatives, including an Austrian farmer who was his cousin, earlier this year.

A chromosome called Haplogroup E1b1b1 which showed up in their samples is rare in Western Europe and is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews.

"One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised," Mr Mulders wrote in the Belgian magazine, Knack.

Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.


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Apostolic Nuncio to Germany Cesare Orsenigo with Adolf Hitler and Joachim von Ribbentrop

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Out of Europe, a voice is heard from the secular world that documents historically the same information told by ex-priests. The author exposes the Vatican's involvement in world politics, intrigues, and the fomenting of wars throughout history. It appears, beyond any doubt, that the Roman Catholic institution is not a Christian church and never was. The poor Roman Catholic people have been betrayed by her and are facing spiritual disaster. Paris shows that Rome is responsible for the two great world wars.





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The Eternal City is a nickname for the city of Rome.



For years, the policies of the Catholic Church during the rise and terribly destructive rule of the Nazis have been controversial. Pope Pius XII has been attacked as "Hitler's Pope," an anti-Semitic enabler who refused to condemn Nazism, much less urge Catholics to resist the German regime. The Church has been accused of standing by while the Nazis steadily revealed their evil designs. Yet all such arguments have been based only on sketchy evidence. The Vatican has kept its internal workings secret and locked away from scrutiny.

Until now. In February 2003, the Vatican opened its archives for the crucial years of the Nazi consolidation of power, up until 1939. Peter Godman, thanks to his long experience in Vatican sources and his reputation as an impartial, non-Catholic historian of the Church, was one of the first scholars to explore the new documents. The story they tell is revelatory and surprising and forces a major revision of the history of the 1930s. It is a story that reveals the innermost workings of the Vatican, an institution far more fractured than monolithic, one that allowed legalism to trump moral outrage.

Godman's narrative is doubly shocking: At first, the Church planned to condemn Nazism as heretical, and drafted several variations of its charges in the mid-1930s. However, as Mussolini drew close to Hitler, and Pope Pius XI grew more concerned about communism than fascism, the charge was reduced to a denunciation only of bolshevism. The Church abandoned its moral attack on the Nazis and retreated to diplomacy, complaining about treaty violations and delivering weak protests while the horrors of religious persecution mounted. As Godman demonstrates, the policies of Pius XII were all determined by his predecessor, Pius XI. The Church was misled not so much by "Hitler's Pope" as by a tragic miscalculation and a special relationship with the Italian government. Mussolini toyed with the Church, even proposing that Hitler be excommunicated. Yet in the end, when presented with further evidence of Nazi depredations, Pius XI could only comment, "Kindly God, who has allowed all this to happen at present, undoubtedly has His purpose."

Reproducing the key Church documents in full and quoting verbatim conversations between Pius XI and his bishops, Hitler and the Vatican is the most extraordinary look inside the secretive Vatican ever written.
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Factors of a political, ideological, economic, and military nature played no mean role in the unfolding of the war, but the religion of the Catholic Church was one of its main instigators. From the beginning her role has been minimized when not obliterated altogether. Concrete facts however, cannot be wiped away so easily, and it is these which we shall now scrutinize, even if briefly. — Avro Manhattan, Vietnam: Why Did We Go?, Chick Publications, 1984, p. 13,


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Avro Manhattan, world authority on Vatican politics, has blown the cover on the real reason our boys suffered and died in Vietnam. He traces their death to the Vatican’s passionate desire to make Asia Roman Catholic. Vatican agents hatched and plotted the Vietnam War. American soldiers were serving the Vatican in their desperate struggle to survive the jungles, the hell of warfare, pain, death and destruction. It was all engineered by…her Jesuits. — Ibid. p. 3, emphasis added.
The Jesuit controlled politicians in Washington wanted to continue the war in Vietnam. They wanted to create a Catholic power in Southeast Asia. They wanted to maintain their control of the international drug market that they had held for 400 years in the Far East. When President Kennedy stood in their way, he had to be removed. The Jesuits had John Kennedy assassinated.

The second reason for Kennedy’s assassination was his intention to eliminate the Federal Reserve. Colonel James Gritz explains,

When Kennedy called for a return of America’s currency to the gold standard, and the dismantling of the Federal Reserve System — he actually minted non-debt money that does not bear the mark of the Federal Reserve; when he dared to actually exercise the leadership authority granted to him by the U.S. Constitution…Kennedy prepared his own death warrant. It was time for him to go. — Colonel James Gritz, Called to Serve: Profiles in Conspiracy from John F. Kennedy to George Bush, Lazarus Publishing, pp 511, 512.


President Kennedy was attempting to dismantle the Federal Reserve System, which is the central bank of the United States, a creation of the Jesuits.


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The Nation of Islam has repeatedly denied charges of anti-Semitism. NOI leader Minister Louis Farrakhan has stated, "The ADL … uses the term 'anti-Semitism' to stifle all criticism of Zionism and the Zionist policies of the State of Israel and also to stifle all legitimate criticism of the errant behavior of some Jewish people toward the non-Jewish population of the earth." However, he has also stated the following:

Hitler was a very great man[...]he was a great German[...]He raised Germany up from nothing. Well, in a sense you could say there's a similarity in that we are raising our people up from nothing.

Jews have been conclusively linked to the greatest criminal endeavor ever undertaken against an entire race of people[...]the black African Holocaust.

Who are the slumlords in the Black community? The so-called Jews[...]Who is it sucking our blood in the Black community? A white imposter Arab and a white imposter Jew.

These false Jews promote the filth of Hollywood that is seeding the American people and the people of the world and bringing you down in moral strength.[...]It's the wicked Jews, the false Jews, that are promoting lesbianism, homosexuality.

Professor David W. Leinweber, Ph.D. of Emory University asserts that the Nation of Islam has engaged in revisionist and antisemitic interpretations of the Holocaust and that they exaggerate the role of Jews in the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Leinweber and others use the original statements of Farrakhan and others as the basis for their evaluation. NOI Health Minister, Abdul Alim Muhammad, has accused Jewish doctors of injecting Blacks with the AIDS virus.

Jeffery Muhammad, the Nation of Islam's longtime leader in Dallas, stated:

"They [Asian-American merchants in black neighborhoods] are just the latest in a long line of people who have come to this country—like Jews, Italians, Indians and now Asians—who have sucked the blood of and exploited the black community."

Jude Wanniski, late associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, wrote, "I've met dozens of men and women who belong to the Nation of Islam, attended many of their conferences, and prayed with them in their Chicago mosque to the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammed. I've concluded beyond any reasonable doubt that there is not an ounce of anti-Semitism or bigotry in Farrakhan."

Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich defended Minister Louis Farrakhan in 2004. “I’m honored to join this distinguished leader who gives hope and understanding to people all over the world, of every color, of every religion, and of every political belief,” Conyers said of Farrakhan during the 2004 “Saviours Day” celebration.

Rabbi David Weiss of the notoriously anti-Zionist Neturei Karta, who are known for "aspir[ing] to a disintegration of the Israeli government", defended Minister Farrakhan, stating "The media widely reported that the Minister had referred to Judaism as a ‘gutter religion.’ This error (or distortion) was deeply troubling to the Nation of Islam."







"I mean, she has devoted her whole life to the country and she was very, very kind to Tony and I.



It was quite strange for me, a girl from Liverpool, to actually meet the queen."


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The right hand was commonly used in antiquity as a symbol of pledging trust, friendship or loyalty. For example, Cicero reported that Octavian pledged an oath to Julius Caesar while outstretching his right arm:

"Although that youth [the young Caesar Octavian] is powerful and has told Antony off nicely: yet, after all, we must wait to see the end." But what a speech! He swore his oath with the words: "so may I achieve the honours of my father!", and at the same time he stretched out his right in the direction of his statue.
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The planning of the Second World War started when Adolf Hitler joined a secret society called the Thule Society in 1919. It was in this group that he found the perverted beliefs that were later to lead him in his control of the German government.

In the Thule Society: "... the sun played a prime role... as a sacred symbol of the Aryans, in contrast to... the moon, revered by the Semitic peoples. The Fuhrer saw in the Jewish people, with their black hair and swarthy complexions, the dark side of the human species, whilst the blond and blue-eyed Aryans constituted the light side of humanity. ... Hitler undertook to extirpate from the material world its impure elements."


In addition to sun (or light) worship, the Thule Society also practiced Satan worship: "The inner core within the Thule Society were all Satanists who practiced Black Magic."

The Society was not a working-man's group as it included amongst its members: "judges, police-chiefs, barristers, lawyers, university professors and lecturers, aristocratic families, leading industrialists, surgeons, physicians, scientists, as well as a host of rich and influential bourgeois.... "

The membership of the Thule Society also became the foundation of the Nazi Party: "... the Committee and the forty original members of the New German Workers' Party were all drawn from the most powerful occult society in Germany—the Thule Society."

One of the founders of both groups, the Nazi Party and the Thule Society, was Dietrich Eckart: "a dedicated Satanist, the supreme adept of the arts and rituals of Black Magic and the central figure in a powerful and wide-spread circle of occultists—the Thule Group. (He was] one of the seven founder members of the Nazi Party...."

Eckart claimed to be the initiator of Hitler into the secrets of Satan worship. He is quoted as saying on his deathbed: "Follow Hitler. He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune! I have initiated him into the 'Secret Doctrine;' opened his centres in vision and given him the means to communicate with the Powers. Do not mourn for me: I shall have influenced history more than any German."

But it was not just the Thule Society that gave Hitler the support he needed to become the leader of the German government. There were additional sources of Hitler's strength. One who offered an explanation of Hitler's easy rise to power was Walter Langer, a noted psychoanalyst. Langer wrote in his book The Mind of Adolf Hitler that it was his theory that Hitler was himself one-quarter Jewish and the grandson of a Rothschild. He wrote:

There is a great deal of confusion in studying Hitler's family tree. Adolf's father, Alois Hitler, was the illegitimate son of Maria Anna Schicklgruber. It was generally supposed that the father of Alois Hitler was Johann Georg Hiedler.... Alois, however, was not legitimized, and he bore his mother's name until he was forty years of age when he changed it to Hitler.


A peculiar series of events, prior to Hitler's birth, furnishes plenty of food for speculation.

There are some people who seriously doubt that Johann Georg Hiedler was the father of Alois. Thyssen and Koehler, for example, claim that Chancellor Dolfuss (the Chancellor of Austria) had ordered the Austrian police to conduct a thorough investigation into the Hitler family. As a result of this investigation a secret document was prepared that proved Maria Anna Shicklgruber was living in Vienna at the time she conceived.

At that time she was employed as a servant in the home of Baron Rothschild. As soon as the family discovered her pregnancy she was sent back to her home in Spital where Alois was bom.

In a postscript in Langer's book, Robert G.L. Waite adds this comment:

"But even when Langer is mistaken and his guesses prove incorrect, he is often on the right track.

Consider his hint that Hitler's grandfather might have been a Jew. There is no reason to believe the unlikely story told by Langer's informant that Hitler's grandmother Maria Anna Schickelgruber, a peasant woman in her forties from the Waldvietral of rural Austria, had had an intimate liason with a Baron Rothschild in Vienna.

But Hitler had worried that he might be blackmailed over a Jewish grandfather and ordered his private lawyer, Hans Frank, to investigate his paternal lineage.

Frank did so and told the Fuehrer that his grandmother had become pregnant while working as a domestic servant in a Jewish household in Graz.

The facts of this matter are in dispute—and a very lengthy dispute it has been. The point of overriding psychological and historical importance is not whether it is true that Hitler had a Jewish grandfather, but whether he believed that it might be true.

He did so believe and the fact shaped both his personality and his public policy.

It is possible that Hitler discovered his Jewish background and his relation to the Rothschilds, and aware of their enormous power to make or break European governments, re-established contact with the family. This would partially explain the enormous support he received from the international banking fraternity, closely entwined with the Rothschild family, as he rose to power.

One thing is certain, however. Hitler started World War II by moving into Austria first. It has been theorized that he moved into this country for two reasons. First, he wanted to silence Dolfuss who Hitler believed knew that he was a descendant of the Rothschilds, and secondly, he wished to remove all traces of his ancestry from the Austrian records.


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Hitler repeatedly tried to make peace offers and suggested armistices for 25 years, reduction in armies and military capacity (weapons) fairer trade world wide and breaking down the class system (redistribution of wealth).
the link for truth http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scr...nks/wwr00.html one of those sites were copy and paste is not allowed.

What lead to war and aggression?
Due to other countries disagreeing with all the above and doing the opposite
plus the insane reparations of the Versaille's treaty and refusal of allowing Danzig (90%) ethnic German to become part of the Reich which is what the people wanted also for trade. (German goods were boycotted in some countries) so they needed an other trade route for imports and exports.

Communist/Socialist subversives who'd been trying to takeover Germany from the inside for years pre war.

Add the ethnic Germans being discriminated against and murdered by the 1000's in Poland PRE WAR. In the Sudetan lands (same discrimination) Germans were starving to death and in poverty in Czechoslovakia.

World Jewry declared war in 1933.


Germany invades Poland (to save ethnic Germans) and to control the POLISH CORRIDOR which was the main route for Russian Communists entry into Germany.
The kosher Communists and their gentile minions invade Poland (the Brits US etc controlled by kosher elements allie with them)
Double standards and hypocrisy. It was never about saving the Poles. But to allie with Communists against Germany.

Nationalism verses Globalism and Communism age old battle. Hitler came from a long line of peasant farmers "volk." Increased the standard of living for the poor "volk" all for ownership of private property regulated the market forces so the middle man couldn't rip off the volk farmers etc, distributed the wealth and broke down the social class order. THIS IS WHAT NS WAS AT ITS CORE AND SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

Whereas communism was all about the state owning all and killing off the middle classes (the brains).


Which meant the CORE IDEOLOGY AND PRACTICES COULD NO LONGER BE ADHERED TO 100%! DUE TO WAR MONGERING ENEMIES.

The NS political ideology was not stagnant and was constantly evolving to suit the needs of the people in the ever changing political world climate (eg wars and enemies shaped the Germans ideologies actions in the interest of self preservation against those that wanted to destroy Germany and its people



ORIGINALLY PRE WAR - The Nazis took control via a bloodless revolution. In the face of violent Socialists (Communists) who'd killed Nazis and attacked them - there'd been many Communists uprisings across Germany. Including by subversive Jews who'd been doing the same across Europe. In Spain, Hungary and Poland (the Communists were then overthrown) first time around, In Russia in 1905 the Bolshevik Jews were allowed Sanctuary in Germany after their failed coupe on Russia.

The Nazis were the people for the people so the people backed them, it was a better choice than allowing The Jewish Communist ideology take control.


The Hungarians rebelled against Bela Khun's Bolshevik take over regime in 1919 and booted them out same as the Polish did. The Nazis knew what was going on as a Bolshevik uprising in Berlin took control for 3 days.

This is why Hitler got so many votes.
And half of Europe allied with Germany.

Second time round Hungary and Poland were taken over and subjugated and still haven't recovered from Communism. We get the fall out in the UK - economic migrants and messed up illegals, plus tax money going to the EU to help these countries.
So basically us Brits backed the wrong side.

Only those who have spent years studying know how vast a topic it all is and realise how one will have to change opinions many times to hopefully understand what the hell went on.

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