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Old 16-07-2011, 03:58 PM   #1
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I think this topic needs to be discussed more. We live in two worlds simultaneously. The fake world is the world of illusion that we have been taught since birth to believe in. It is the only world most people will ever know. But there exists another world beneath the surface of the fake world. It is the Real World. What is the nature of this real world and how does it differ from the fake world? Let's discuss that in this thread.

Let me start the discussion. The real world is the world of the Illuminati and those who voluntarily work for them. The fake world is just a pretend world that exists only to deceive the sheep of the world. It is not real, but to the sheep who have never known anything different it is real. If you were try to tell a sheep that they didn't live in the real world they would think you were crazy. The entire world behind the scenes is run by the Illuminati and controlled by them. This one statement explains so much of what we see in the fake world and yet do not understand. It is a mystery in the fake world but it makes perfect sense in the real world. To try to understand some of the concepts discussed on these forums, such as 9-11 or the JFK assassination, cannot be done relative to the fake world. They will never make sense. But, if a person could somehow free his mind of all programming and false knowledge about the world the person thinks they know, and just see the world the way it is, without illusion, then they would suddenly be living in the real world and everything would suddenly become clear. Its only a mystery in the fake world.

Here are some specific examples:

In the fake world the spy agencies are working to keep the U.S. safe from "terrorists", both domestic and foreign. In the real world the spy agencies are spying on the entire population of the U.S. to keep people under control and to deal with anyone who sees too much.

In the fake world the so-called terrorists are overseas muslims who "hate us for our freedoms". In the real world TPTB stage terrorists attacks routinely for their own purposes and blame it on groups they despise and want the sheeple to hate and fear.

In the fake world, pedophilia and child pornography are hated and the government is trying to stop these things. In the real world pedophilia and child pornorgraphy are everywhere and is used by TPTB to blackmail politicians and other government officials and also use it to make incredible amounts of money. They keep it illegal in the fake world so it becomes all the more desirable in the real world, where they live. As David Icke himself says, it is one of the currencies of the world, behind the scenes.

In the fake world we are free to make our own choices and live our lives the way we choose. In the real world we are slaves and are manipulated from birth to do what the Illuminati want us to do.

In the fake world the news organizations are doing a public service trying to help people understand the events happening in the world. In the real world the news organizations are the propoganda arm of TPTB, telling the sheeple what TPTB want people to believe. The main stream media works for TPTB. A specific proof of this is the BBC crew who reported that WTC7 fell many hours before it actually did. This was a major mistake that proves the relationship between the media and TPTB for anyone who has eyes to see it.

These are but a few examples. Many more can be given.
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Old 18-07-2011, 04:08 PM   #2
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You've laid it all out very nicely.

In the fake world, religions bring us nearer to God and it's important to pick the right one and adhere to its precepts.

In the real world, religions (including in many instances the New Age religion)are control mechanisms designed to capture and distract people who are questioning the material world and longing for "something beyond". They mustn't discover the real nature of the Matrix (though they are starting to...)

In the fake world, doctors have the last word on what's wrong with us and have many effective answers in terms of medicines, brought to us by the kindly and caring pharma industry.

In the real world, doctors are corrupted by links with big pharma and by freebies/holidays given to them if they prescribe certain drugs. Drugs are likely to give us side effects that require more drugs. The entire pharma racket is a major contributor to the economy but does little towards our health.

In the fake world, schools are there to educate our little darlings and make them productive and creative citizens brimming with their own potential and able to get jobs and make their way in the world.

In the real world, schools are there to teach our kids certain mindsets about how our world works and prepare them to become debt slaves for life. Getting kids to pay for their own university fees by taking out massive loans was a major victory for the real world agenda.

Hm... you could carry on for quite a while with this.....
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Old 18-07-2011, 06:49 PM   #3
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It's all quite sad. We live in a world where money is placed above the well-being of others, to the point of decimation of entire populations.

We live in a world where money is placed above the well-being of the environment, to the point of the desecration of millions of acres of land for cattle-farming, where we in turn tortue and mutilate those animals to feed the masses on a diet that causes a half million deaths in the US alone (coronary heart disease).

We live in a world where we are taught that a man sitting on top of the clouds is watching everything we do, so we must be good! Or we will burn forever in the bowels of hell.

We live in a world where we are taught that the self is not interconnected to the whole, that we are above nature and other species only because we possess the "intelligence" to lord over them.

We live in a messed up place my friends.
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Old 19-07-2011, 07:52 PM   #4
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I really like this tread. What I've been waiting for.

Totally true in the fake and the real, let's see if I can summon one up.

In the fake world - Parents think and know best for their children, by thinking the mainstream mentality and listening to magazines, news, tv and other media with it's advice and information, that it's truth.

and by them being sort of pushy parents but they're thinking they are doing right and knowing right.

In the real world - These parents, are just part of the system. That the mainstream mentality of the predicable advice and responses that, what ever 'you the child say' it's 'strange concepts' it may seem to them. They will never understand' and good personal achievements/ development you do' apart from what they 'want you to do' it's all absolute to them.

So you understand this and they can go fuck them selfs.

(sorry as you can see having issues with ducking parents >_>)


In the fake world. Police and cameras are here to protect us and serve for the community.

In the real world. The police are manipulative just like the people and forced to do 'jobs' that if they question they would say no. So as they are black mailed in a sense if they don't do the jobs they lose their job.

and cameras are here to spy and surveillance the public, studying them, seeing if their 'manipulation programming' working and any new reports.


Hmmmm hope these are ok lol :S
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Old 21-07-2011, 03:28 AM   #5
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in the fake world: the government that knows what is best for you teaches children and parents through propaganda in the media and false facts in school that a plant such as cannabis contains no benefit for mankind. The same plant that opened me and many others i know up to new ideas and got me to question what i have been falsely taught by the elite. They teach that it is just like any other drug and compare it to heroin! The fake world residents truly believe that this is a harmful substance. In the real world: well, you know.
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Old 21-07-2011, 05:34 AM   #6
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I like this thread too!!

Its so true, money above all other things. They even put their symbols on their money. All seeing eye the queen etc... They do tell us how to behave and brain wash us that we need to buy "wants"! Who really needs a new computer or fancier car, my old phone worked why do I "need" a new one?

Also they stopped teaching us at school how to farm, how to get a bank loan, how to kill for survival. They only put you through "the system", so you get a job and work for them. We are all now just given a minimum amount of money and told to live to that level, borrow money get a credit card and then they want you to die after a short retirement in which you cannot afford to live very well....

Really shows you that there really is a screwed up system out there!
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Old 24-07-2011, 10:13 PM   #7
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In the Fake World... Hilary Clinton is a sweet old lady.

In the Real World... she is a Queen Draco Reptile that uses hologram technology to keep form, also she eats babies.
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Old 24-07-2011, 11:10 PM   #8
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in the fake world: the government that knows what is best for you teaches children and parents through propaganda in the media and false facts in school that a plant such as cannabis contains no benefit for mankind. The same plant that opened me and many others i know up to new ideas and got me to question what i have been falsely taught by the elite. They teach that it is just like any other drug and compare it to heroin! The fake world residents truly believe that this is a harmful substance. In the real world: well, you know.
Cannabis is one path toward higher awareness. TPTB obviously are against anything that gives people higher awareness, which explains the insanity that a natural herb that has never led to the death of anyone is illegal in the United States and Alcohol and Tobacco, which have led to the deaths of tens of thousands, are legal. Completely backwards from the way it should be.
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Old 24-07-2011, 11:22 PM   #9
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Another one that came to me while reading these responses:

In the fake world, although there are dangers such as terrorism and crime, the world is basically safe and predictable and understandable. Our future is expected to be as good as it is now and to improve. We expect a brighter future for our kids.

In the real world, nothing is as it seems to be in the fake world. The world is anything but safe for us who are nothing more than cattle who are exploited by our Masters who OWN us. If they decide to stage another terrorist attack even worse than 9-11 somewhere in your country and you die because of it...oh well. Or if they decide to bring the entire U.S. economy to the ground so they can start over with a new currency and your entire life savings is suddenly wiped out...oh well. In the real world decisions are made without our consent every day that have very significant impacts on our lives. In the real world things are understandable only if you are Illuminati who knows the way things really work. In the real world, the future will be whatever they want it to be. Our kids may be slaves much more than we are now.

When their planned military take-over of the world is initiated the sheeple will suddenly be thrust into the real world against their will and the fake world (which was just a tool used to temporarily control us until the take-over) will forever cease to exist.
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Old 25-07-2011, 12:32 AM   #10
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For fucks sake, the real world has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with your perception. We are not seeing things as they are. We are hypnotized. We do not understand ourselves. We do not see the light. We live in darkness of mind and feelings. When this is corrected the veil is lifted from our eyes and we see things with the light of truth in us.

The question is how to go about this change and Jesus Christ is definitely a way to open your heart, but it's seriously narrow.

The highest level of the conspiracy are the thoughts you recieve and the destiny laid out for you. Your mind tells you to do this and that. You merely choose the impressions/impulses to act on.

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Old 25-07-2011, 01:43 AM   #11
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For fucks sake, the real world has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with your perception. We are not seeing things as they are. We are hypnotized. We do not understand ourselves. We do not see the light. We live in darkness of mind and feelings. When this is corrected the veil is lifted from our eyes and we see things with the light of truth in us.

The question is how to go about this change and Jesus Christ is definitely a way to open your heart, but it's seriously narrow.

The highest level of the conspiracy are the thoughts you recieve and the destiny laid out for you. Your mind tells you to do this and that. You merely choose the impressions/impulses to act on.
The fake world has everything to do with your perception, not the real world. By what you say I know you understand the real vs fake world concept.

You seem to suggest that Jesus Christ is not the only way to open a person's heart. Is that what you are saying?

You say the thoughts we receive, implying that our thoughts may not be our own. I have heard others say that and it is an interesting concept. What do you believe about this?
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You seem to suggest that Jesus Christ is not the only way to open a person's heart. Is that what you are saying?
Not really since what has closed our hearts is sin and to be free from sin one has to suffer. Then people may say, sin doesn't exist. It is something we create and hold against ourselves.

Still I have felt the Holy Spirit in the name of Jesus Christ and his crucifixion, so I can't deny it.

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You say the thoughts we receive, implying that our thoughts may not be our own. I have heard others say that and it is an interesting concept. What do you believe about this?
I think the Mind is a dimension of itself filled with (spirits of) deception and everyone susceptible of being decieved will be decieved just by their thoughts. So so much for "going your own way" as you really aren't. You have to go the way of the heart which most often is not what you think you want. But if your heart is closed you are blind.
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Funny, I was pondering on something similar to this today.

Killing another is taboo, rightly so, but just look at the amount of killing that has gone on through the ages, millions upon millions.
This is ok as long as its done in the disguise of freedom and democracy.

Humans were never a killing war like being.

In the fake world it was sold to us as being ok, and we bought it.

Most are too scared to look outside the box because it is too horrific, or it would completely shatter their illusion, and some are not ready for this, the sceptics being the worst. There is a difference between looking at a situation and opening your mind to all possibilities and being sceptical, than those sceptics who live in the fake world and defend it no matter what.
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Old 25-07-2011, 04:58 PM   #14
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I think the Mind is a dimension of itself filled with (spirits of) deception and everyone susceptible of being decieved will be decieved just by their thoughts. So so much for "going your own way" as you really aren't. You have to go the way of the heart which most often is not what you think you want. But if your heart is closed you are blind.
But if we cannot trust our own mind/hearts then what can we trust? I do not accept this notion. The idea that we cannot trust ourselves and must bow down to some higher power who knows everything does not sound right. Our minds are our own. They are not corrupted like this. God (if there is a God) would not allow that to happen. If He did, then who could possibly be saved other than those who totally sacrificed themselves? Christianity seems to demand self-sacrifice and I am completely opposed to that notion. Instead of sacrificing myself who I feel is a fraction of what it could be, I want to unleash it and let it become its true potential. Do you understand?
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I'd say....why bother with magicians and conjurers in this world to give the audience an impression that such illusions are amazing and gob smacking. The ultimate illusion is the one we live in day in day out and there aren't many that question that.
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Anyhoo, I Understand you loud and clear. You have made some amazing posts. All those great people who were murdered before their time, we consider them great now, but what could they have achieved? MLK, JFK- maybe they could have actually taken on the FED?

I always joked that life is so hard and shitty, it makes me wanna kill... other people. I mean, why would I kill myself? I'm awesome! Its everyone else that is preventing me from living the awesome life I deserve.

That always bugged me about suiciders. If they were going to end it all anyway, why couldn't they do something extreme (like take out Kissinger) before so they leave the world a slightly better place?
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Anyhoo, I Understand you loud and clear. You have made some amazing posts. All those great people who were murdered before their time, we consider them great now, but what could they have achieved? MLK, JFK- maybe they could have actually taken on the FED?

I always joked that life is so hard and shitty, it makes me wanna kill... other people. I mean, why would I kill myself? I'm awesome! Its everyone else that is preventing me from living the awesome life I deserve.

That always bugged me about suiciders. If they were going to end it all anyway, why couldn't they do something extreme (like take out Kissinger) before so they leave the world a slightly better place?
Not being suicidal, I would not dare to assume what a suicidal person thinks. Maybe they just want to end the personal pain they feel. If someone kills themselves it does not mean that they are wrong and the society they live in is right. Its probably exactly the opposite in that they live in a world that they do not accept and to continue to live in that world is worse than death to them. Far from being cowards as they are portrayed, these people have incredible courage to end their lives the way they do. I certainly would not condemn someone for making this choice.

In order to change the world people have to address the real world, not the fake world, and that puts them at odds with the Illuminati, who like things just the way they are. As fucked up as things seem to be, everything is going according to their plans as we head toward a planned military takeover of the earth. Anybody wanting to truely change that is going to run up against HUGE opposition from TPTB. Look at some of the people who tried to change that in the past to see how TPTB deal with people who do. JFK, MLK, Malcom X, and many others. Anybody who has the potential to stand in the way of their plans is assassinated.

If there is to be a revolution, it must be against the Illuminati themselves. Anyone wanting to change things must go to war against the real evil in the world, and good luck with that because they have Satanic protection.
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i honestly think the only reason why this world is "solid" is because our brains make it so, and therefore i also think this earth plane etc. is just another "spiritual plane" everything is obviously energy and therefore everything moves as waves as energy.

this solidness is a complete illusion in the face of these energy waves/movements.

imagine we are all in outer space moving as energy waves, regardless if we perceive this world to be as solid.

that's how i see it.
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i honestly think the only reason why this world is "solid" is because our brains make it so, and therefore i also think this earth plane etc. is just another "spiritual plane" everything is obviously energy and therefore everything moves as waves as energy.

this solidness is a complete illusion in the face of these energy waves/movements.

imagine we are all in outer space moving as energy waves, regardless if we perceive this world to be as solid.

that's how i see it.
You are coming from an entirely different place than what I am describing here. I have heard this theory and I disagree with it. The physical world is real and the Illuminati want to gain full control over it.
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You are coming from an entirely different place than what I am describing here. I have heard this theory and I disagree with it. The physical world is real and the Illuminati want to gain full control over it.
The "physical world" is an illusion or at least it is when you see the big picture. Atoms are mostly empty space as you already know, and the reason it's solid to us is because the energy running through all of it allows it to spin or move super fast (at least to us) creating a barrier. It's only solid on our scale of space and time. If we were to go inside of a single atom, it would probably move as "slowly" as our solar system or galaxy.
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