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Old 03-04-2011, 03:17 AM   #1
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Isn't he simply a skeptic of the state? Of God? He was the one who told Adam and Eve to not live in ignorance (they had no knowledge of good and evil) and it was a way of telling them to be skeptical of rulers (government). Not to mention in the Bible, well...

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Old 03-04-2011, 03:22 AM   #2
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'Satan' means 'adversary'.

What happens if the knowing of good and evil led into more ignorance, not out of ignorance?
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:29 AM   #3
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God (government) seems like the bad guy
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:51 AM   #4
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"THUNDERBOLTS and LIGHTNING!!
VERY, VERY, FRIGHTENING!!!!"
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:55 AM   #5
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During my experiences with other dimensions and the astral realm, all I
learned about Satan is that he has a son, that he is a real being, and that
he is one of the darkest entities in the Universe. He came to Earth because
the struggle between Light and dark on Earth was the most intense in the
history of the Universe.

The darkness lost the struggle, but he's still around in the astral, trying to
cause as much suffering as possible. I never met Satan himself, but I met
his son Satanus. Lucifer is a real being as well, he used to be a dark lord
on Earth who ruled over an empire thousands of years ago. I can tell you
these experiences were most unpleasant.

When I met Satanus, just being near him felt like I was drowning in burning
acid, and his voice sounded hollow and metallic, it sounded as if ten voices
spoke at once.. creepy. Can't imagine what kind of darkness Satan himself
must have.

So yeah, he is portrayed as a negative being for a good reason.
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Old 03-04-2011, 04:04 AM   #6
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If Satan has a relationship with the Roman God and planet Saturn (Cronus, Shani Dev, ENKI, etc) then it is perhaps Satan who is the god of government, of organised society, creator and remover of obstacles, teacher of life's lessons..
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Old 03-04-2011, 04:09 AM   #7
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If Satan has a relationship with the Roman God and planet Saturn (Cronus, Shani Dev, ENKI, etc) then it is perhaps Satan who is the god of government, of organised society, creator and remover of obstacles, teacher of life's lessons..
He's not interested in helping anyone, he is a destroyer.
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Old 03-04-2011, 04:21 AM   #8
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Lucifer is a real being as well, he used to be a dark lord on Earth who ruled over an empire thousands of years ago. I can tell you these experiences were most unpleasant.
Is Lucifer still a dark lord on earth, or a being of light now?
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Old 03-04-2011, 06:29 AM   #9
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Isn't he simply a skeptic of the state? Of God? He was the one who told Adam and Eve to not live in ignorance (they had no knowledge of good and evil) and it was a way of telling them to be skeptical of rulers (government). Not to mention in the Bible, well...

www.evilbible.com
Why do people give so much of a stuff about these alien mythologies. Unless you are of middle-eastern descent, who gives a stuff about YHWH or Satan? I really do not understand why people treat this as earth's pre-eminent mythology....as if the truth is encoded in it and you need to choose which is speaking it.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:45 AM   #10
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Is Lucifer still a dark lord on earth, or a being of light now?
Lucifer will always be one of the darkest entities in the Universe.. these kind
of beings never become Light. But no I don't think he's incarnated on Earth.

Regardless of his name, he is NOT a lightbringer.

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Old 03-04-2011, 04:11 PM   #11
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VERY, VERY, FRIGHTENING!!!!"
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Old 03-04-2011, 04:27 PM   #12
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If you can tell the forum what Satan's name mean's in Hebrew then you will have answered your own question.
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:17 PM   #13
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If Satan has a relationship with the Roman God and planet Saturn (Cronus, Shani Dev, ENKI, etc) then it is perhaps Satan who is the god of government, of organised society, creator and remover of obstacles, teacher of life's lessons..
Yes, exactly. Saturn = structure and life lessons.

Pluto = destruction and death of structure and life lessons.

Pluto rules Scorpio, the enlightened one that glows in the dark (Satan, Lucifer)
Even though it brings violence, evil and cruelty, Scorpio/Pluto is just as much about deep healing through sex, fantasy, empathy and suffering.

The sun/son/Jesus brings enlightenment and detachment from these physical things. So by accepting Jesus, you have eternal life away from all ignorance and low energies.

I guess that's why Satan is considered negative, because it's energies enslave people into a non spiritual/only physical existence, that is never at true peace.
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:33 PM   #14
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The Saturnalian Brotherhood The core of the control over Planet Earth's populance lies in ancient cults. These cults are still in existance to this day. Following the most ancient religions mixed with sexual worship. The main cults are the worship of the Planet Saturn (El), Moon (Isis), Venus (Lucifer) & Sun (Ra). Israel is located on the land formerly known as Canaan. Canaan was the most advanced post-deluvian civilisation on Earth. Outstripping both Egypt and Sumer in all areas. Now the center of trade, Holy land and soon the Divine Dragon's open 'Latin Kingdom,' when the Luciferian Vatican moves from Rome to Canaan. http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhi...p?showforum=48

The hammer and sickle of russia--hammer is Arman hammer I think, and sickle Saturn


coul be thor also

all these ancient gods are satanic i think
satan is lucifer, and the reptiles may be hanging out on saturn apart from inside the earth
also notice snake-dragons, clue there




A very successful and well-known rock group called "Black Sabbath." The name is appropriate, because the Sabbath is the celebration of Saturn, whose symbolic color in the ancient world was always black. http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/article...eligion10.html

also hammer here with satanic lightening bolts, but no idea who this is or where it is
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:48 PM   #15
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For goodness sake do i have to do it myself?!



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The original Hebrew term, satan, is a noun from a verb meaning primarily to, “obstruct, oppose,” as it is found in Numbers 22:22, 1 Samuel 29:4, Psalms 109:6.[4] Ha-Satan is traditionally translated as “the accuser,” or “the adversary.” The definite article “ha-”, English “the”, is used to show that this is a title bestowed on a being, versus the name of a being. Thus this being would be referred to as “the Satan.”[5]

In that context Ha-Satan is beyond any astrological consideration. The purpose of the tester/opposer is to be a natural reflex to the status quo.

So Ha-Satan would actually dismiss and oppose Satanists and Christians alike. Because that is his/her/its nature.

To put it another way G-d is a multi-verse. An infinty of universes.

But Ha-Satan, is a single occult particle/atom. A single destructive particle that seeks to imprison the multi-verse. Like a multi-dimensional prison.

So Satan, the tester/opposer isnt even concerned about the concept of religion. In its presence its meaningless, irrelevant.
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'satan' means 'adversary'.

What happens if the knowing of good and evil led into more ignorance, not out of ignorance?


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for goodness sake do i have to do it myself?!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/satan




in that context ha-satan is beyond any astrological consideration. The purpose of the tester/opposer is to be a natural reflex to the status quo.

so ha-satan would actually dismiss and oppose satanists and christians alike. Because that is his/her/its nature.

To put it another way g-d is a multi-verse. An infinty of universes.

But ha-satan, is a single occult particle/atom. A single destructive particle that seeks to imprison the multi-verse. Like a multi-dimensional prison.

So satan, the tester/opposer isnt even concerned about the concept of religion. In its presence its meaningless, irrelevant.
lol
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