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Old 06-02-2011, 05:59 PM   #1
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Default Cigar UFOs, Chemtrails & 9/11 - Linked

Cigar UFOs... these cretins are what I have been seeing since October, check the "My Story" link in my signature. Check this vids to see examples of "Cigar" UFOs. There are many, many more examples on YouTube and they are in Italy, UK, USA, pretty much everywhere.

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Now there is a further link. Check this 9/11 vid. Cigar UFO, most clearly visible in the first clip just before it exits left - you can see the black band in the middle and the full length of it.


Can't remember if the clips above show the "cloaking" ability of these UFOs (the Fake Plane vids you may have seen sometimes reveal Cigar UFOs). Do they have holographic capabilities? i.e. disguise themselves as aircraft, display fake aircraft? Is there a possibility the 9/11 jets were holograms?

Since I see these feckers in the flesh, I am not very sceptical about footage. Looks real to me.
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This actually, with all rationality, looks more like either a blimp with faked motion by moving the camera, or a cruise missile.

Those cigar shaped crafts are huge.

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Some interesting clips. thanks for posting.

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Thanks for sharing this nice footage and the story Muggels.

I would like to make a small contribution with some of my own sightings of Cigar UFO´s if its okey ?



You will have to excuse us goofing around in the video, we stopped talking in the other videos it kind of distracts the viewer

I have seen these Cigar UFO´s both appear and vanish in the blink of an eye in random places in the sky (this is seen in my first video) I saw this with my own eyes so it is not a camera defect, my reactions is clearly heard in the video if you speak Swedish that is.
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:50 PM   #5
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Thanks for sharing this nice footage and the story Muggels.

I would like to make a small contribution with some of my own sightings of Cigar UFO´s if its okey ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp7EJ7HFphw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bhJi816UL8

You will have to excuse us goofing around in the video, we stopped talking in the other videos it kind of distracts the viewer

I have seen these Cigar UFO´s both appear and vanish in the blink of an eye in random places in the sky (this is seen in my first video) I saw this with my own eyes so it is not a camera defect, my reactions is clearly heard in the video if you speak Swedish that is.
I couldn't see your vids without quoting them, so am just going to watch them now.
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here are two Cigar UFOs caught on cam


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I couldn't see your vids without quoting them, so am just going to watch them now.
Strange does anyone knows what´s the problem ? Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt when i post hmm..
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Strange does anyone knows what´s the problem ? Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt when i post hmm..
It happens, it seems to be a coding problem.
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Wow, great footage. I am pissed off that I have none of my own, but then again, I am sure it would be debunked in the twinkling of an eye. Seeing is believing.

Anyway. Seems like we have a lot in common, sigh.

I wrote to ask the mods why they moved this out of "General", but nobody has replied. Its really irritating. People need to know about this shit. These craft are being used for everything connected to the global conspiracy.
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Strange does anyone knows what´s the problem ? Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt when i post hmm..
Apparently you just need to put the address for the video straight into the post. No media tag. Its the media tag that is the problem. Hope that makes sense. Clear as mud, huh?
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That was interesting.
I found it looked more like some kind of plasma tail.
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That was interesting.
I found it looked more like some kind of plasma tail.
It could be, it also is similar is shape (at some points) to the 'switchblade' system patented by Northrop Grumman.





But this is obviously me spitballing and not a definitive answer.
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Wow, great footage. I am pissed off that I have none of my own, but then again, I am sure it would be debunked in the twinkling of an eye. Seeing is believing.

Anyway. Seems like we have a lot in common, sigh.

I wrote to ask the mods why they moved this out of "General", but nobody has replied. Its really irritating. People need to know about this shit. These craft are being used for everything connected to the global conspiracy.
It is hard getting a glimpse of them, i have just been lucky myself since they appear at total random and well most of us got things to do lol.. Sitting countless of hours each day in order to just happen to record them is not very fun.

I agree with you i usually see them on a sunny day when the sky is very clear, then shortly after or before the Cigar UFO appears there will be Chemtrails in the sky.

I think these are used for monitoring us indeed, once i was outside during the summer meditating with my girlfriend and just shortly after we where finished out of nowhere the Cigar UFO appeared. We did not see any airplanes or other crafts in the skies for over 30 minutes, then as usual out of nowhere this object appeared.

We see them so often during the summer and spring time that we do not even bother to film them any longer.
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Wow, great footage. I am pissed off that I have none of my own, but then again, I am sure it would be debunked in the twinkling of an eye. Seeing is believing.

Anyway. Seems like we have a lot in common, sigh.

I wrote to ask the mods why they moved this out of "General", but nobody has replied. Its really irritating. People need to know about this shit. These craft are being used for everything connected to the global conspiracy.
It doesn't matter if people 'debunk' your sightings straight away, it just means the chaff is separating itself from the wheat. Those that truly want to discover will listen, look and ask questions.

It would be good if you had footage, I wish I had some footage of my sightings, I had a 25 second clip, but it isn't that clear or good and thus no point in 'publishing it'.

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It doesn't matter if people 'debunk' your sightings straight away, it just means the chaff is separating itself from the wheat. Those that truly want to discover will listen, look and ask questions.

It would be good if you had footage, I wish I had some footage of my sightings, I had a 25 second clip, but it isn't that clear or good and thus no point in 'publishing it'.

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Yes, once you know the left out history and probably have seen one for yourself, just let them "debunk".

A couple of thoughts:

In my view, chemtrails are clearly connected with "UFO", which are as you know identified crafts.
Thus, it strengthens my hypothesis that the real chemtrails are military applications, possibly defensive in nature.
I always try to fit in the missing peace treaty, since it does not really make sense why there is none, except... Andromeda Geräte became real.

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"On September 29, 1944, at 10:45 a.m., a test pilot was trying out a new Messerschmitt Jet, ME 262 Schwalbe, when his attention was suddenly caught by two luminous points situated on his right. He shot at full speed in that direction and found himself face to face with a cylindrical object, more than three hundred feet long with some openings along its side, and fitted with long antennae placed in front up to about halfway along its length. Having approached within about 1,500 feet of the craft the pilot was amazed to see that it was moving at a speed of more than 1,200 m.p.h." - from U.F.O.s and Extra-terrestrials in History (Vol. 4) by Yves Naud.

I believe that many of us can make some contribution to explaining the UFO mystery. This page is my modest contribution. I am sharing with those of you who are interested, an interview with Richard L. Cornwell, a veteran who was an Investigator with the 970th detachment of the U.S. Army Counter Intelligence Corps. Shortly after the end of WW II, this remarkable man actually was on site at the Harz mountain facility where Germany apparently manufactured at least some of their electromagnetic propulsion craft (also known as field propulsion craft) during the war.

In retrospect, Americans should have correlated the WW II and post-war sightings of flying spheres, saucers, and cylinders to the wondrous technology of National Socialist Germany. It is an understatement to say that our government has deliberately misled us on the UFO question.

My own interest in the UFO phenomenon was first sparked in February 1955 when I noticed a glowing yellow sphere hovering a few feet above a tree. This extremely fascinating object was only about twenty-five feet from where I was looking out of a window. After a few seconds it moved away horizontally at a speed of perhaps 30 mph. I had an immediate sense that this amazing machine was under intelligent control. This sighting occurred on a Sunday afternoon in Nashville, Tennessee. I would estimate the object to be between 5 to 6 feet in diameter. In retrospect, I might add that it had an uncanny resemblance to a WW II vintage "Foo Fighter."

It is likely that the German cylindrical (or cigar-shaped) craft had large photon reflectors mounted in an opening at the tail end of the ship. WW II German scientist Eugen Sänger once wrote, "Reflectors are used to direct the beams not only of searchlights and weapons rays but of various kinds of photon and pure fission rockets as well. Here they serve to reflect and collimate electromagnetic or corpuscular radiation. So doing they replace the conventional firing nozzle in directing the force which propels the rocket." Of course, there were problems associated with photon propulsion. According to the late NASA scientist, Paul R. Hill, the energy of a photon beam required to propel a UFO weighing 60,000 pounds in earth's atmosphere would be approximately 2,000 times greater than the jet energy of a Saturn class rocket with a thrust of six million pounds.

German scientists were well aware of the above constraints. They knew that gravity had to be overcome by some means. Cancellation of gravity was the real challenge. I believe that through experimentation they discovered that rings fitted with ports for emission of bursts of high energy electromagnetic waves could cancel gravity by relaxing the tension in the fabric of space-time. Photon propulsion became feasible in our atmosphere and strange UFO's ("Foo Fighters", flying saucers, wingless cylinders, etc.) raced across the skies of WW II confounding the eyes (and nerves) of those who saw them.

(Author's note: I will remind the reader that numerous eye witnesses have reported flashing lights along the rims of flying saucers. These lights (glowing air molecules) are actually caused by bursts of x-ray photons which distort gravity by relaxing the tension found in the fabric of space-time. See my article on gravity: Is Gravity Caused by Tension in the Fabric in Space-Time?)

In March of 1997, I was very pleased to conduct a series of five interviews with a (then) 76 year old US Army Counter Intelligence Corps veteran, Richard L. Cornwell, who was actually present at the German facility where photon propulsion craft were manufactured during WW II. I believe that the following excerpts from my interviews can help each of us to decide on what really took place.

RJL: What circumstances brought you to the German manufacturing site for the flying saucers?

CIC Veteran Cornwell: I was on an intelligence mission which I would rather not discuss. We visited the Harz mountain facility out of intense curiosity.

RJL: Did you see any flying saucers at the plant?

CIC Veteran Cornwell: Well, to begin with, I don't recall anyone using the term "Flying Saucers." Our people referred to them as craft. I only examined one craft while I was there.

RJL: What did it look like?

CIC Veteran Cornwell: It was a large cylindrical-shaped metallic craft resting on two long, wide skids. It was painted a gray-green color and did not have any markings or German insignia what-so-ever. I gathered that it was partially assembled and when the US Army was drawing near, the Germans hastily removed the propulsion system and other sensitive items.

The propulsion system had been located in the belly of the craft. You could see where it had been removed. The bottom of the craft was somewhat flattened and the top was rounded. The nose of the craft was rounded.

I went all through the thing and I noticed that one of the two front windows had been broken out. They appeared to be made out of very thick glass. Several of the gauges were missing from the control panel. There were round porthole windows on each side. The outside of the craft was smooth with riveted joints.

RJL: How big was the craft?

CIC Veteran Cornwell: Frankly, it is hard for me to remember. I do recall thinking that it was larger than any WW II submarine. I will estimate that it was several hundred feet long and maybe 30 feet high and perhaps 20 feet across the top.

RJL: Did it have a searchlight?

CIC Veteran Cornwell: I don't remember seeing one.

RJL: What about the craft's entrance doors?

CIC Veteran Cornwell: Strange as it may sound, we could not figure out exactly where the entrance doors were located, due to damage done to the sides when the Germans dismantled the parts they wanted to remove. We concluded that the doors must have been located on the sides.

RJL: Was the craft located in an underground facility?

CIC Veteran Cornwell: It was stored in a well-camouflaged aboveground building.

RJL: Were you briefed about the nature of this German craft?

CIC Veteran Cornwell: We were told that the Germans designed it to go to the moon and that they had flown all of the operational craft which had been kept at the plant to South America and Africa.

(Author's note: Germany also had an electromagnetic propulsion 300 meter long cylindrical ship which was alleged to be capable of traveling to the moon. A possible postwar siting of one of these giant ships is included in Strange Worlds by Frank Edwards. On June 30, 1947, the steamship Llandovery Castle was passing through the Straits of Madagascar, when those on board observed a 1000 feet long cigar shaped metallic craft descend from the sky and cruise along beside them for about one minute. Given the time frame of the above incident it would seem likely that this UFO was in fact a craft from a displaced Reich operating out of a secret base in Africa - or possibly Antarctica.

George Leonard, author of Somebody Else is on the Moon, mentions the puzzling mystery of runic symbols appearing on the moon's surface. He cites considerable evidence of activities on the surface of the moon.

Rumors have persisted for decades that German forces continued to wage a secret war after May 1945, using exotic technology - especially UFO based psychological warfare. In 1952, CIA director Walter B. Smith wrote, in a now declassified memorandum, to the director of the Psychological Strategy Board, "I am today transmitting to the National Security Council a proposal (TAB A) in which it is concluded that the problems connected with unidentified flying objects appear to have implications for psychological warfare as well as for intelligence and operations." He went on to write in section 3 of the same memo, "I suggest that we discuss at an early board meeting the possible offensive or defensive utilization of these phenomena for psychological warfare purposes.")

RJL: Were you instructed to keep this information secret?

CIC Veteran Cornwell: I have been warned at least three times.

RJL: Were you contacted after you returned to the states?

CIC Veteran Cornwell: Yes. Once by a government visitor to my home.

RJL: What type of ID did he show you?

CIC Veteran Cornwell: He showed me a Military Intelligence ID.

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It doesn't matter if people 'debunk' your sightings straight away, it just means the chaff is separating itself from the wheat. Those that truly want to discover will listen, look and ask questions.

It would be good if you had footage, I wish I had some footage of my sightings, I had a 25 second clip, but it isn't that clear or good and thus no point in 'publishing it'.

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What did you see?

I keep my camera with me more often now, maybe I will get lucky. Part of the agenda is probably for them to BE seen and BE filmed anyway. What with all the military helicopters (real or fake, lol) it gets loud in a very attention-seeking way.
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What did you see?

I keep my camera with me more often now, maybe I will get lucky. Part of the agenda is probably for them to BE seen and BE filmed anyway. What with all the military helicopters (real or fake, lol) it gets loud in a very attention-seeking way.
I have had only 3 experiences with UFOs, that I can recall. All have been within 2010.

The first one was in mid-January. I was walking down to the local Sea Terminal, to use there free internet, with my flat-mate. It was about 0500, it was dark but clear. I was looking up, as I always do, and I noticed what I thought was a star at first but soon realised it was moving. Thinking it was down to me being tired (having been suffering from lack of sleep at that point in time) I asked my flat-mate could he see it. Then it click, it must be a satellite. Then it stopped, did a 90 degree turn and zoomed off. Both my flatmate and I were stunned to silenced.

My second experience was about 2 months later in March at around 0600, walking to the Sea Terminal again, this time on my own. It was an orangery yellow light that moved across the sky, the a red light about a third the size of the orange light was going round it as if it was fixed upon it a spinning, the orbit was tight, maybe only a few metres. I'd say it was about 2000-3000 feet in the air and going a roughly the speed of a commercial jet and there was none of that low rumberling sound that you can normal hear with a high altitude jet. Now I have seen many commercial and military jets fly at night as the Isle of Man is in the flight path for alot of transatlantic flights and I have always loved the sky, so i'm fairly confident it wasn't a commercial plane. Also I lived next to the Islands only commercial Airport which is extremely busy. It also wasn't flying any of the normal flight paths that almost all planes use on the Island, it was heading in an almost Due South direction.

My third one was on the 24th November. Was coming out of Tescos, and looking at the sky as I normally do and saw an Orange light, at first I thought it was an Aircraft but then realised that it has no navigation lights at all.

It happened at 2130 and lasted till about 2135. I tried to take pics and filmed for 25 seconds but the quality is so crap. However I am ruling out a Chinese lantern for several reasons, one It didn't flicker, 2 it was going faster than a commercial aircraft and 3 I noticed it in the east, about 2/3 miles from the coast and it was heading west.

I contacted the local Airport and everything and was told that no aircraft was over the Island at that time.

So these are all my experiences.
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Thanks Laurance that was interesting reading. I think it helps a lot to have company when you see things. It wasn't until recently that I was able to get a friend to witness a sighting here. I don't mind admitting that the first time was scary.... and lonely. Definitely a life changer.
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I have had only 3 experiences with UFOs, that I can recall. All have been within 2010.

The first one was in mid-January. I was walking down to the local Sea Terminal, to use there free internet, with my flat-mate. It was about 0500, it was dark but clear. I was looking up, as I always do, and I noticed what I thought was a star at first but soon realised it was moving. Thinking it was down to me being tired (having been suffering from lack of sleep at that point in time) I asked my flat-mate could he see it. Then it click, it must be a satellite. Then it stopped, did a 90 degree turn and zoomed off. Both my flatmate and I were stunned to silenced.

My second experience was about 2 months later in March at around 0600, walking to the Sea Terminal again, this time on my own. It was an orangery yellow light that moved across the sky, the a red light about a third the size of the orange light was going round it as if it was fixed upon it a spinning, the orbit was tight, maybe only a few metres. I'd say it was about 2000-3000 feet in the air and going a roughly the speed of a commercial jet and there was none of that low rumberling sound that you can normal hear with a high altitude jet. Now I have seen many commercial and military jets fly at night as the Isle of Man is in the flight path for alot of transatlantic flights and I have always loved the sky, so i'm fairly confident it wasn't a commercial plane. Also I lived next to the Islands only commercial Airport which is extremely busy. It also wasn't flying any of the normal flight paths that almost all planes use on the Island, it was heading in an almost Due South direction.

My third one was on the 24th November. Was coming out of Tescos, and looking at the sky as I normally do and saw an Orange light, at first I thought it was an Aircraft but then realised that it has no navigation lights at all.

It happened at 2130 and lasted till about 2135. I tried to take pics and filmed for 25 seconds but the quality is so crap. However I am ruling out a Chinese lantern for several reasons, one It didn't flicker, 2 it was going faster than a commercial aircraft and 3 I noticed it in the east, about 2/3 miles from the coast and it was heading west.

I contacted the local Airport and everything and was told that no aircraft was over the Island at that time.

So these are all my experiences.
Your second and third experience seems to be what many refers to as the "fakers" or "morphers"

I have recorded and witnessed these UFO´s countless of times just as my partner has, and these bastards can change shapes to airplanes,orbs and pyramids or triangles.

When they are faking it by imitating airplanes they usually make a docile rumberling, that is just off and does not sound like a common airplane usually this noise appears either to early or to late. The blinkers are always on odd locations as well, sometimes they do barely have any.

These are not airplanes, if they are of ET origin that is something we can only speculate about..

But regardless these are genuine UFO´s

I have at least 50 videos on my youtube channel with sightings of orbs,fakers, and triangle crafts and i see these almost at a daily basis i have seen them morph from a ball of light into an airplane more than 10 times i believe.

My girlfriend has seen this as well so has her closest friend that has not even seen an ufo before this event.
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at 1.50 and 2.08 into the video one of the UFO´s is being seen changing shape into something that resembles an airplane. I believed i filmed an even better one morphing some days ago, i will try to upload it tomorrow on my channel.
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