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Old 29-10-2010, 09:08 AM   #1
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In 1372 the Ark of the Covenant is 'discovered' in one the lower chambers of Khafre's pyramid. However it does not do any "magic", but it is discovered that it has futuristic devices attached to it. It has a profound effect on the people that find it, and they start a underground group called the Rosicrucians, and tell an allegorical tale about Christian Rosenkruez discovering it in a "cave".

It is kept secret because the masses would not understand the lack of magic, and it would cause an uproar. The people that find it decide to pretend that they are 'god', in a Wizard of Oz type of way, and use it as a psychological tool for themselves. They take all of the old secrets and use them to manipulate society with hypnosis in several ways. The Illuminati is created out of it.

However, there really are no secrets to the collective unconscious, and the Jews are the rightful owners. Would you think that what they did is wrong? The people who were charged with watching it, the Knights Templar, were tortured, murdered, and disbanded some 60 years before, and the box is only symbolical. The spirit that goes with it, is elsewhere.

Should the true story be told, or should it be kept secret? Religion has never been the same since. When DeSoto arrived to the Mayans, he conquered them easily because they had expected that the previous visitors who taught them everything long before would eventually return. They did return with all of the correct symbols, but not the spirit..
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Old 29-10-2010, 02:38 PM   #2
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In 1372 the Ark of the Covenant is 'discovered' in one the lower chambers of Khafre's pyramid. However it does not do any "magic", but it is discovered that it has futuristic devices attached to it. It has a profound effect on the people that find it, and they start a underground group called the Rosicrucians, and tell an allegorical tale about Christian Rosenkruez discovering it in a "cave".

It is kept secret because the masses would not understand the lack of magic, and it would cause an uproar. The people that find it decide to pretend that they are 'god', in a Wizard of Oz type of way, and use it as a psychological tool for themselves. They take all of the old secrets and use them to manipulate society with hypnosis in several ways. The Illuminati is created out of it.

However, there really are no secrets to the collective unconscious, and the Jews are the rightful owners. Would you think that what they did is wrong? The people who were charged with watching it, the Knights Templar, were tortured, murdered, and disbanded some 60 years before, and the box is only symbolical. The spirit that goes with it, is elsewhere.

Should the true story be told, or should it be kept secret? Religion has never been the same since. When DeSoto arrived to the Mayans, he conquered them easily because they had expected that the previous visitors who taught them everything long before would eventually return. They did return with all of the correct symbols, but not the spirit..
Do you have any evidence for this?

There is so many people have claimed they have found Ark of the Covenant, what makes this claim any more real?
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Old 29-10-2010, 06:55 PM   #3
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Do you have any evidence for this?

There is so many people have claimed they have found Ark of the Covenant, what makes this claim any more real?
Obviously, people have gone through great lengths to keep it quiet. I cannot reveal the source without causing an additional tear in the collective unconscious. There is plenty of evidence to those that have studied it.


It's really a theoretical question. Would it be ethical to hide such information?
Does possesion constitute a responsibility to adopt the position of god ?
Do we now have a secret society of athiests, who feel the need to be secret "wizards of Oz"?

God is the plural "one", meaning "all", rather than the singular meaning of "alone". A religion who's plan is to conquer all the others. Is it not?
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Obviously, people have gone through great lengths to keep it quiet. I cannot reveal the source without causing an additional tear in the collective unconscious. There is plenty of evidence to those that have studied it.


It's really a theoretical question. Would it be ethical to hide such information?
Does possesion constitute a responsibility to adopt the position of god ?
Do we now have a secret society of athiests, who feel the need to be secret "wizards of Oz"?

God is the plural "one", meaning "all", rather than the singular meaning of "alone". A religion who's plan is to conquer all the others. Is it not?
Right so you don't?

Funny how you aren't willing to reveal the source, yet tell everyone the 'Truth' without any fear. Very contridictary. So no offense, I don't buy it as you have no evidence and can't reveal sources. This forum is full of similar cases.

And if there was truely so much evidence that confirms your story then you would be happy to show such evidence and there wouldn't be so much contridiction in all the Ark stories/theories
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Right so you don't?

Funny how you aren't willing to reveal the source, yet tell everyone the 'Truth' without any fear. Very contridictary. So no offense, I don't buy it as you have no evidence and can't reveal sources. This forum is full of similar cases.

And if there was truely so much evidence that confirms your story then you would be happy to show such evidence and there wouldn't be so much contridiction in all the Ark stories/theories
There is plenty of evidence, once you realize what occurred.


I'm more curious about the reaction before I do bring forth evidence. Would the Jews be offended? Would the Rosecrucians admit it? Or would they lie?
It could be quite a delicate subject. No?

Cmon, share your feelings about this.
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There is plenty of evidence, once you realize what occurred.


I'm more curious about the reaction before I do bring forth evidence. Would the Jews be offended? Would the Rosecrucians admit it? Or would they lie?
It could be quite a delicate subject. No?

Cmon, share your feelings about this.
Oh I believe in the Ark, but I feel that the 'evidence' out there does not support any one theory more than the other.

The Theory by Von Daniken is pretty good, but that is me.
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The ark is in Ethiopia it was taken by Menelik after he travelled to see his father Solomon.

The real Hiram Abiff.
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The Ark does have a kick-ass bass sound though.
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The ark of the covenant is indeed an interesting item, inside it should only be the tablets of the 10 commandments given to Moses by God.
In terms of it being a weapon or an object of power, I'd urge people (and I don't mean this in a preachy way!) to read 1st Samuel chapters 4,5&6 where the people of Israel attempted to use the Ark as a weapon/defensive mechanisim against the Philistines. Interestingly, the Isralites get a right kicking, and the ark gets knabbed! but it spooks the Phillistines by making thier statue god fall over and smash on the floor - prompting them to return the ark back to it's owners.
So in answer to the OP, I'd say that the ark is a pretty useless item unless it is used to glorify the one true God.

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GOD has no secrets only men... Men that keep secrets about GOD are not good men at all... They are not protecting anything... They are trying to secure their own place in holiness... As a Thief and will be treated and judged as such...
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The ark is in Ethiopia it was taken by Menelik after he travelled to see his father Solomon.

The real Hiram Abiff.
Why on earth would Solomon give a sacred object of his people to his illegitimate son?
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Kebra Nagast


"On the journey home, she gives birth to Menelik (chapter 32).[5]

At the age of 22, Menelik travels to Jerusalem by way of Gaza, seeking Solomon's blessing, and identifies himself to his father with the ring. Overjoyed by this reunion, Solomon tries to convince Menelik to stay and succeed him as king, but Menelik insists on returning to his mother in Ethiopia. King Solomon then settles for sending home with him a company formed from the first-born sons of the elders of his kingdom. This company of young men, upset over leaving Jerusalem, then smuggle the Ark from the Temple and out of Solomon's kingdom (chapters 45-48) without Menelik's knowledge. He had asked of Solomon only for a single tassel from the covering over the Ark, and Solomon had given him the entire cloth.

During the journey home, Menelik learns the Ark is with him, and Solomon discovers that it is gone from his kingdom. The king attempts to pursue Menelik, but his son is magically flown home before he can leave his kingdom. King Solomon then turns to solace from his wife, the daughter of the Pharaoh of Egypt, and she seduces him into worshiping the idols of her land (chapter 64).

After a question from the 318 bishops of the Council, Domitius continues with a paraphrase of Biblical history (chapters 66-83) then describes Menelik's arrival at Axum, where he is feasted and Makeda abdicates the throne in his favor. Menelik then engages in a series of military campaigns with the Ark, and "no man conquered him, on the contrary, whosoever attacked him was conquered" (chapter 94).

After praising the book Domitius has found, which has established not only Ethiopia's possession of the true Ark of the Covenant, but that the Solomonic dynasty is descended from the first-born son of Solomon (chapter 95). Gregory then delivers an extended speech with prophetic elements (chapters 95-112), forming what Hubbard calls a "Patristic collection of Prophecies": "There can be little doubt that chapters 102-115 are written as polemic against, if not an evangel to, the Jews. These chapters seek to prove by OT [Old Testament] allegories and proof-texts the Messianic purpose of Jesus, the validity of the Ethiopian forms of worship, and the spiritual supremacy of Ethiopia over Israel."[6] Hubbard further speculates that this selection from the Old Testament might be as old as Frumentius, who had converted the Kingdom of Axum to Christianity.[7]"

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"King Solomon then settles for sending home with him a company formed from the first-born sons of the elders of his kingdom. This company of young men, upset over leaving Jerusalem, then smuggle the Ark from the Temple and out of Solomon's kingdom (chapters 45-48) without Menelik's knowledge. He had asked of Solomon only for a single tassel from the covering over the Ark, and Solomon had given him the entire cloth."
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"King Solomon then settles for sending home with him a company formed from the first-born sons of the elders of his kingdom. This company of young men, upset over leaving Jerusalem, then smuggle the Ark from the Temple and out of Solomon's kingdom (chapters 45-48) without Menelik's knowledge. He had asked of Solomon only for a single tassel from the covering over the Ark, and Solomon had given him the entire cloth."
Sorry but this story sounds very fishy to me. People did not simply walk into the Holy of Holies and out again without anyone noticing.
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According to the Apocrypha in the book of 2 maccabees, jeremiah hid the ark in the mountains where the Most High first gave the commandments to Moses. He said in the last days it would be revealed to his people.
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According to the Apocrypha in the book of 2 maccabees, jeremiah hid the ark in the mountains where the Most High first gave the commandments to Moses. He said in the last days it would be revealed to his people.
The trouble is no one knows for sure where this mountain is supposed to be.
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