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Extraterrestrial UFO Are Real : Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works CEO Admitted In His Deathbed Confession;





Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works CEO had admitted in his Deathbed Confession that Extraterrestrial UFO visitors are real and the U.S. Military travel among stars.

According to article published in May 2010 issue of the Mufon UFO Journal [Link] - Ben Rich, the “Father of the Stealth Fighter-Bomber” and former head of Lockheed Skunk Works,had once let out information about Extraterrestrial UFO Visitors Are Real And U.S. Military Travel To Stars



What he said might be new to many people today, but he revealed the information before his death in January 1995. His statements helped to give credence to reports that the U.S. military has been flying vehicles that mimic alien craft.

The article was written by Tom Keller, an aerospace engineer who has worked as a computer systems analyst for NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

1 : “Inside the Skunk Works (Lockheed’s secret research and development entity), we were a small, intensely cohesive group consisting of about fifty veteran engineers and designers and a hundred or so expert machinists and shop workers. Our forte was building technologically advanced airplanes of small number and of high class for highly secret missions.”

2 : “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.”

3 : “We now have the technology to take ET home. No, it won’t take someone’s lifetime to do it. There is an error in the equations. We know what it is. We now have the capability to travel to the stars. First, you have to understand that we will not get to the stars using chemical propulsion. Second, we have to devise a new propulsion technology. What we have to do is find out where Einstein went wrong.”

4 : When Rich was asked how UFO propulsion worked, he said, “Let me ask you. How does ESP work?” The questioner responded with, “All points in time and space are connected?” Rich then said, “That’s how it works!”

Ben Rich Lockheed Former CEO knew of extraterrestrial UFO visitors

Lockheed "Skunk Works" former CEO knew the Roswell extraterrestrial UFO influenced designs of Testor model kits for Roswell UFO models, and U.S. top secret aircraft. According to a CNI News report by Colorado resident Michael Lindemann, the design information was derived from forensic illustrations and numerous witness testimonies about the Roswell UFO, provided by William L. “Bill” McDonald.

In an e-mail, dated July 29, 1999, apparently addressed to Lindemann, McDonald referenced an excerpt of a discussion with Harold Puthoff, founder of the highly classified U.S. “remote viewing” program.

McDonald said: “Well Hal, you asked for it! Now that legendary Lockheed engineer and chief model kit designer for the Testor Corporation, John Andrews, is dead, I can announce that he personally confirmed the design connection between the Roswell Spacecraft and the Lockheed Martin Unmanned Combat Air Vehicles (UCAVs), spyplanes, Joint Strike Fighters, and Space Shuttles.

Andrews was a close personal friend of "Skunk Works" CEO Ben Rich -- the hand-picked successor of Skunk Works founder Kelly Johnson and the man famous for the F-117 Nighthawk "Stealth" fighter, its "half-pint" prototype the "HAVE BLUE", and the top-secret F-19 Stealth Interceptor. Before Rich died of cancer, Andrews took my questions to him.

Dr. Ben R. Rich former Lockheed Skunk Works CEO confirmed:

1. There are 2 types of UFOs -- the ones we build and ones 'they' build. We learned from both crash retrievals and actual "hand-me-downs." The Government knew and until 1969 took an active hand in the administration of that information. After a 1969 Nixon "purge", administration was handled by an international board of directors in the private sector…

2. Nearly all "biomorphic" aerospace designs were inspired by the Roswell spacecraft -- from Kelly's SR-71 Blackbird onward to today's drones, UCAVs, and aerospace craft…

3. It was Ben Rich's opinion that the public should not be told [about UFOs and extraterrestrials] . He believed they could not handle the truth -- ever. Only in the last months of his decline did he begin to feel that the "international corporate board of directors" dealing with the "Subject" could represent a bigger problem to citizens' personal freedoms under the United States Constitution than the presence of off-world visitors themselves.”

Lindemann added that “Bill McDonald received the above information from Andrews from 1994 until their last phone call near Christmas in 1998.” Lindemann also noted “It should also be known that Dr. Ben R. Rich attended a public aerospace designers and engineers conference in 1993 before his illness overwhelmed him in which he stated -- in the presence of MUFON Orange County Section Director Jan Harzan and many others that – ‘We’ (i.e., the U.S. aerospace community/military industrial complex) had in it's possession the technology to "take us to the stars".

See the complete letter in May, 2010 MUFON UFO Journal from John Andrews and the hand written reply from Dr. Ben Rich. Hear more revealing testimony from Disclosure Project whistleblowers. NASA can not deny secrets discovered by UK hacker Gary McKinnon and many astronauts if it expects full funding from the Obama White House administration.

Lockheed Skunkworks Engineer USAF, and CIA Contractor Admitted : UFO Are Real

Don Phillips, "These UFOs were huge and they would just come to a stop and do a 60 degree, 45 degree, 10 degree turn, and then immediately reverse this action". During the Apollo landing, Neil Armstrong says, "They're here.They are right over there and looking at the size of those ships., it is obvious they dont like us being here”. When I was working with the Skunkworks with Kelly Johnson, we signed an agreement with the government to keep very quiet about this.

Anti-gravitational research was going on. We know that there were some captured craft from 1947 in Roswell, they were real. And, yes, we really did get some technology from them. And, yes, we really did put it to work. We knew each other from what we call an unseen industry. We can term it black, deep black, or hidden.

The knowledge I have of these technologies came from the craft that were captured here. I didn`t see the craft, nor did I see the bodies, but I certainly know some of the people that did. There was no question that there were beings from outside the planet.

Are these ET people hostile? Well, if they were hostile, with their weaponry they could have destroyed us a long time ago .We got these things that are handhold scanners that scan the body and determine what the condition is. We can also treat from the same scanner.

I can tell you personally that we've been working on them. And we have ones that can diagnose and cure cancer. One of the purposes I had for founding my technology corporation in 1998 was to bring forth these technologies that can clean the air and can help get rid of the toxins, and help reduce the need for so much fossil fuel. Yes, it is time. I can tell you personally that it has already started. pp. 375 ,383.



Another Lockheed Martin senior research scientist Boyd Bushman : Extraterrestrial UFO visitors are real



In the past we had posted about UFOs landing in front of former U.S. President Eisenhower at Holloman Air force Base and how US State representative confirms that US President Eisenhower met Aliens .

We had also been reported about Eisenhower`s great granddaughter`s claim too, in which she has exposed her attempted recruitment into a secret Mars colony project.

In recent confessions from UK, France, China Admitted that UFO are real and of ET origin

And NASA in its own continuous disclosure style informed the word that they had found few more New Earth sized planets.

All above incidents and individuals testimony clearly showed that "We Are Not Alone, Never Were Actually"


Update : Hour back we have received the email, according to which "Johan Andrews had sent a Letter to Ben Rich regarding his belief in "Manmade UFOs" and "Extraterrestrial UFOs." on July 10, 1986

"I believe with certainty in manmade UFOs. I am tending to believe there are also extraterrestrial UFOs."--John Andrews


Johan Andrews claimed that above document was hand written by Ben Rich Lockheed CEO according to it "Yes, I'm a believer in both categories." -Ben Rich July 21, 1986 source

Andrews relayed Rich’s responses to questions from UFO investigator William McDonald which confirmed:
There are two types of UFOs:

the ones we build;
ones THEY build;

We learned from both crash retrievals and actual "Hand-me-downs."The Government knew, and until 1969 took an active hand in the administration of that information. After a 1969 Nixon "Purge", administration was handled by an international board of directors in the private sector.

Former astronaut, Dr Edgar Mitchell recently confirmed an incident in 1997 where the Head of Intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff was supplied the code names of UFO related projects, but was denied need-to-access. The first to report the incident was UFO researcher, Dr Steven Greer, who in 2001 revealed that Admiral Wilson was furious over his failure to gain access.

On a July 4, 2008 CNN interview, Dr Mitchell confirmed Greer’s version of events when he said that Admiral Wilson,“had found the people responsible for the cover-up and for the people who were in the know and were told, I'm sorry, admiral, you do not have need to know here and so, goodbye.”

A reliable source furthermore revealed to UFO researcher Richard Dolan that Admiral Wilson was frustrated by attorneys of a corporation that denied him access. I interviewed an active duty U.S. Navy officer in October 2008 who confirmed the powerful role of corporations involved in UFO projects.

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2010/08/u...eed-skunk.html



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Thanks for the post Jamesc. Interesting read.
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Fascinating!

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When I look at a story like this, it would appear to lend a lot of credibility to the case for aliens... maybe it's just me.
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Ive seen all the posts on this on various forums and articles...

But ive yet to see some "Real" evidence to support it...

I read years ago about this but info is sketchy to say the least.....




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I just wonder what motivation would someone have to come out with a huge lie like this before death. I could see wanting the truth to get out and feeling the need to "confess" this before death. I guess we'll never know really.
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I saw this article on the site I check but this thread has a lot more info, cheers, unless the deathbed confession was witnessed by ross or norris mcquerta or whatever their names lol it dosn't count, its like listening to someones dream, nether the less a damn good read.
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I just wonder what motivation would someone have to come out with a huge lie like this before death. I could see wanting the truth to get out and feeling the need to "confess" this before death. I guess we'll never know really.
Agree the perception of fuck it i am dying lets get this out perception does make a bit of sense.Maybe he was just trying to give humanity a bit of a kick up the ass and say wake up people.
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4 : When Rich was asked how UFO propulsion worked, he said, “Let me ask you. How does ESP work?” The questioner responded with, “All points in time and space are connected?” Rich then said, “That’s how it works!”
Forgodssakes don't let the NASA nincompoops on the forum know about this.

Their little obedient peanut brains will be shattered.
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Lockheed Skunkworks Engineer USAF, and CIA Contractor Admitted : UFO Are Real

Don Phillips, "These UFOs were huge and they would just come to a stop and do a 60 degree, 45 degree, 10 degree turn, and then immediately reverse this action". During the Apollo landing, Neil Armstrong says, "They're here.They are right over there and looking at the size of those ships., it is obvious they dont like us being here”. When I was working with the Skunkworks with Kelly Johnson, we signed an agreement with the government to keep very quiet about this.

Anti-gravitational research was going on. We know that there were some captured craft from 1947 in Roswell, they were real. And, yes, we really did get some technology from them. And, yes, we really did put it to work. We knew each other from what we call an unseen industry. We can term it black, deep black, or hidden.

The knowledge I have of these technologies came from the craft that were captured here. I didn`t see the craft, nor did I see the bodies, but I certainly know some of the people that did. There was no question that there were beings from outside the planet.

Are these ET people hostile? Well, if they were hostile, with their weaponry they could have destroyed us a long time ago .We got these things that are handhold scanners that scan the body and determine what the condition is. We can also treat from the same scanner.

I can tell you personally that we've been working on them. And we have ones that can diagnose and cure cancer. One of the purposes I had for founding my technology corporation in 1998 was to bring forth these technologies that can clean the air and can help get rid of the toxins, and help reduce the need for so much fossil fuel. Yes, it is time. I can tell you personally that it has already started. pp. 375 ,383.

And yet, Ben Rich died of cancer? Seems like a not-so-tiny hole in the story to me.
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And yet, Ben Rich died of cancer? Seems like a not-so-tiny hole in the story to me.
Very good point but what if anything that might cure cancer probably would be a huge threat to big pharma companies and cause a huge hole in the bank accounts of those who profit from illness.While your point deserves to be taken on board it also seems possible that he was not allowed to use this technology ,IF that is ,IF this is legit.Cheers for the input.
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Forgodssakes don't let the NASA nincompoops on the forum know about this.

Their little obedient peanut brains will be shattered.
Speaking as a NASA nincompoop, I can confirm that my peanut brain seems OK.

Now the secret of UFO propulsion is out. All points in space and time are interconnected. Wow. I did not know that.
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Wonder what Ben Rich would have made of this recent discovery.Its being peer reviewed just now.


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“The implications for our current understanding of science are profound. If the laws of physics turn out to be merely 'local by-laws', it might be that whilst our observable part of the universe favours the existence of life and human beings, other far more distant regions may exist where different laws preclude the formation of life, at least as we know it.”

“If our results are correct, clearly we shall need new physical theories to satisfactorily describe them.”

link; http://www.swinburne.edu.au/chancell...t-the-universe

This discovery and corresponding preliminary paper is under "peer review" just now; peer review link here;
http://arxiv.org/abs/1008.3907


VLT May Have Proven That Our Laws Of Physics Are Wrong - The Universe Is Not Equal!



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"the VLT (Very Large Telescope) in Chile has found that may prove our science based knowledge of laws and physics in the universe is completely and utterly incorrect and the so called experts in these matters may have to issue apologies for trying to ridicule the people who disagreed with them".



"Defying Einstein's equivalence principle, which states that the laws of physics are the same everywhere, researchers have found new evidence that supports the idea that we live in an area of the universe that is "just right" for our existence".

Taking data from the Very Large Telescope (VLT) in Chile Webb has observed that alpha varies in space rather than time.

The VLT data suggests that, elsewhere in the universe, the value of alpha is very slightly bigger than on Earth;

Laws of physics are not the same everywhere;

2010-09-09 16:20:00
Defying Einstein's equivalence principle, which states that the laws of physics are the same everywhere, researchers have found new evidence that supports the idea that we live in an area of the universe that is "just right" for our existence.

The controversial finding comes from an observation that one of the constants of nature appears to be different in different parts of the cosmos.

"This finding was a real surprise to everyone," New Scientist quoted John Webb of the University of New South Wales in Australia as saying.

Even more surprising is the fact that the change in the constant appears to have an orientation, creating a "preferred direction", or axis, across the cosmos.

That idea was dismissed more than 100 years ago with the creation of Einstein's special theory of relativity.

But the new study focuses on the fine structure constant, also known as alpha.

This number determines the strength of interactions between light and matter.

Taking data from the Very Large Telescope (VLT) in Chile Webb has observed that alpha varies in space rather than time.

The VLT data suggests that, elsewhere in the universe, the value of alpha is very slightly bigger than on Earth.

The difference in both cases is around a millionth of the value alpha has in our region of space.

Moreover, the team's analysis of around 300 measurements of alpha in light coming from various points in the sky suggests the variation is not random but structured, like a bar magnet.

The universe seems to have a large alpha on one side and a smaller alpha on the other.

This "dipole" alignment nearly matches that of a stream of galaxies mysteriously moving towards the edge of the universe.

However, it does not line up with another unexplained dipole, dubbed the axis of evil, in the afterglow of the big bang.

Earth sits somewhere in the middle of the extremes for alpha.

If correct, the result would explain why alpha seems to have the finely tuned value that allows chemistry - and thus life - to occur.

Grow alpha by 4 per cent, for instance, and the stars would be unable to produce carbon, making our biochemistry impossible.

The study will be published in Physical Review Letters. (ANI)
link; http://sify.com/news/laws-of-physics...jquecfcbi.html

Link to an article on the paper that is being published link; http://www.swinburne.edu.au/chancell...t-the-universe

This paper is saying that the universal constants ALPHA is going against Einsteins equivalence theory ,(i.e that physics acts in the same way throughout the universe) and varies in different regions of space.

It is also saying that this part of the universe is good and suited to the existence of life;

quote;
In physics, the fine-structure constant (usually denoted α, the Greek letter alpha) is a fundamental physical constant, namely the coupling constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction. The numerical value of α is the same in all systems of units, because α is a dimensionless quantity;

Link what ALPHA or "The fine structure constant" actually is from the above quote; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant

http://www.swinburne.edu.au/chancell...t-the-universe
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Speaking as a NASA nincompoop, I can confirm that my peanut brain seems OK.

Now the secret of UFO propulsion is out. All points in space and time are interconnected. Wow. I did not know that.
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I just wonder what motivation would someone have to come out with a huge lie like this before death. I could see wanting the truth to get out and feeling the need to "confess" this before death. I guess we'll never know really.
I reckon a lot of people do, but the problem is it doesn't get to the vast majority of the population.

If the mainstream media doesn't decide to write a story about it, chances are very few get to read about it and actually take it seriously.
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