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Old 26-10-2010, 12:33 PM   #21
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can you explain from where do you know that this wasnt staged. are there any other information about children shoes standing on the street? is this common pedophile language?
I got trustworthy information from people who know him personally
that this was by no means staged but real.

I don't know about other information on shoes, did not have the time to research,
but the symbolic meaning was clear to me right away.
To me it means someone is gone, dead.
As far as I remember Jessie Marsson states in the video, that this is a common sign
in pedophile circles.


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to the other user: i dont know what mrf means. jessie does in fact know well the german gay and pedophile street-walkers' patch scene as though he was part of it very long. and im not sure if he is out of this today.

Before mentioned source confirms that he is definitely out
and even put and still puts his own life at risk to help some of the kids escape.

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but what i find indeed very interesting is the brand thing. he talked a lot about how brand clothing is used to identify sexual issues and area issues. just like Hilfiger brand.



jessie wears it to this day that makes me think he is part of it still today.
he had this jacket long before he talked about the brand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MMoLL7JDs8

Why shouldn't he wear it?
He might not buy new Hilfiger clothes, though.

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Old 15-11-2010, 07:08 AM   #22
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I got trustworthy information from people who know him personally
that this was by no means staged but real.

I don't know about other information on shoes, did not have the time to research, but the symbolic meaning was clear to me right away.
To me it means someone is gone, dead.
As far as I remember Jessie Marsson states in the video, that this is a common sign in pedophile circles.
i think, it should be researched by someone who lives in Augsburg, too. Or is in the near of the city.

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Before mentioned source confirms that he is definitely out
and even put and still puts his own life at risk to help some of the kids escape.
i dont believe in that fully. knowing also some stuff but wont write in public about it.

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Why shouldn't he wear it?
He might not buy new Hilfiger clothes, though.
well, as i said. this is my feeling. listening to the brands stuff and seeing him wearing this long time, makes someone wonder. me thinks the hilfiger brand he wears is totally unnecessary combined with this story he said about brand communication in pedophile networks. so that is the conclusion everyone can do. unless he is very un-emotionally wearing this without a sense although he stated these brands make sense to a certain network.
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Old 15-11-2010, 09:37 AM   #23
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i think, it should be researched by someone who lives in Augsburg, too. Or is in the near of the city.
Who, from your point of view, would be trustworthy?
How should the research be done to convince you?
What kind of proof would you accept?



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i dont believe in that fully. knowing also some stuff but wont write in public about it.
Making noises while not speaking out does not help anybody.
This information might be important to raise public awareness and in the best case save children!



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well, as i said. this is my feeling. listening to the brands stuff and seeing him wearing this long time, makes someone wonder. me thinks the hilfiger brand he wears is totally unnecessary combined with this story he said about brand communication in pedophile networks. so that is the conclusion everyone can do. unless he is very un-emotionally wearing this without a sense although he stated these brands make sense to a certain network.
This thread contains just information and was not opened to propagate The Gospel according to Jessie.

Critical thinking is vital these days.


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Old 15-11-2010, 02:37 PM   #24
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I'm reading about Marcel Vervloesem and the Zandvoort file. Truly unimaginable stuff. This ring runs DEEP. The guy uncovers a massive pedophile ring and he is the one who is prosecuted.
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I'm reading about Marcel Vervloesem and the Zandvoort file. Truly unimaginable stuff. This ring runs DEEP. The guy uncovers a massive pedophile ring and he is the one who is prosecuted.
Interesting, thanks for the keywords.
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Old 15-11-2010, 03:20 PM   #26
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I'm reading about Marcel Vervloesem and the Zandvoort file. Truly unimaginable stuff. This ring runs DEEP. The guy uncovers a massive pedophile ring and he is the one who is prosecuted.

It is also an important global economic factor.
That is why the corrupt governments, legislation and jurisdiction, sweep it under the carpet,
and because many of them are involved.
That is the usual way to make them minions of and perpetrators in the satanic system.

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Old 15-11-2010, 04:09 PM   #27
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Who, from your point of view, would be trustworthy?
How should the research be done to convince you?
What kind of proof would you accept?
maybe an interview of a family that he helped to escape. you know he has jo "at his side" so an interview would not been so difficult. of course masking the family or the one who wants to speak of the horror. nothing of it happened until today. also doublechecks from people who are in the near of augsburg and can confirm the children's shoes.


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Making noises while not speaking out does not help anybody.
This information might be important to raise public awareness and in the best case save children!
you can do this research on your own as everybody else. one can be said. dont fall for every propaganda.

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This thread contains just information and was not opened to propagate The Gospel according to Jessie.
i know but the information came from jessie. i dont like it when this topic is been exploited. and yes this does happen also. if you know someone in the near or jessie himself you know that his stories are not consistent. i spotted a lot of fakes. start with his facebook. thats the only clue i can give.

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Critical thinking is vital these days.

its the most important if i might say. we are in times of cyber war.

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Old 15-11-2010, 09:17 PM   #28
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Child Trafficking in Germany

right before the very eyes of the public, jurisdiction, police, media, politicians ....


Jessie Marsson was one of the children who get tortured, raped, sold .... but succeeded in escaping. He is now exposing the network.
Of course he gets viciously defamed by you know who, although there are still pictures of him on the web promoting pedophile websites.

Watch Jo Conrads interview with Jessie and the background report while driving through the streets of Augsburg along the places with all the unconspiciously looking graffiti and much more.


http://www.bewusst.tv/geheimbunde/ritueller-missbrauch
http://www.bewusst.tv/geheimbunde/verkaufte-kinder (listen by earphones)

CAUTION: Very explicit and shocking!
It's not in english.
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Old 16-11-2010, 04:48 PM   #29
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It's not in english.
if i would be convinced about all this, i would do a translation. but for the sake of truth, i dont. better ask for an english translation at the editor's team itself.

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info ( at ) bewusst.tv

actually they have a forum. you can ask there. im sure they do understand english. jo once interviewed david icke:

http://www.freigeistforum.com/forum/...oard,25.0.html
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69770

but actually they are not so consisting in confirming accounts. maybe ladybird can help you out of this. i never received a penny helping them for free in translation and what not. i stopped this. its not my job. and acutally jo wants money, too. they call this "impulsausgleich" in germany. and i hate that expression, so i wont translate anything for them except i receive an impulsausgleich for this. but im happy jo's books lead me to david icke. i wasnt happy that he didnt progress himself and i went over to english forums. because we have more freedoms here as germans and hopefully the truth will prevail.

for the german readers here. i am reachable in messengers. if you want to know any further things why im so in anger, pm me.
i cant reveal things here because of persons who are ashamed experiencing certain things concerning this topic.
if you would know whats going on in germany you would know why nobody of them is talking in public about it. they are hiding things for the sake of money.
pedophilia and prostitution is serious as it sounds.
ask yourself a question: Who is Jessie? He even isnt able to answer this question by himself. If he cant, who can? Taylor Bryce and Cathy o Brian were able to. Happy investigating.

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if i would be convinced about all this, i would do a translation. but for the sake of truth, i dont. better ask for an english translation at the editor's team itself.

email:

info ( at ) bewusst.tv

actually they have a forum. you can ask there. im sure they do understand english. jo once interviewed david icke:

http://www.freigeistforum.com/forum/...oard,25.0.html
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69770
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJf8Ursy4PA

but actually they are not so consisting in confirming accounts. maybe ladybird can help you out of this. i never received a penny helping them for free in translation and what not. i stopped this. its not my job. and acutally jo wants money, too. they call this "impulsausgleich" in germany. and i hate that expression, so i wont translate anything for them except i receive an impulsausgleich for this. but im happy jo's book lead me to david icke. i wasnt happy that he didnt progress himself and i went over to english forums. because we have more freedoms here as germans and hopefully the truth will prevail.

for the german readers here. i am reachable in messengers. if you want to know any further things why im so in anger, pm me.
i cant reveal things here because of persons who are ashamed experiencing certain things concerning this topic.
if you would know whats going on in germany you would know why nobody of them is talking in public about it. they are hiding things for the sake of money.
pedophilia and prostitution is serious as it sounds.


In fact the above answers were given by Jo and I trust him without restriction.


Jo Conrad thread: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69770


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ladybird, i know what you mean. But open your eyes in this topic. It is very serious!!! We are talking about Jo here who believes in persons that do see little dragons flying around them. i love you. pm me if you like to communicate. i had personal contacts also with all of them.

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Almost two weeks ago Jessie Marsson was arrested and imprisoned together with two of his friend in Augsburg. It is unknown up to know for what reason. The three of them are now imprisoned in Augsburg, Stadelheim and Kempten.
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Sorry, but only available in German.
Please bear with me.
Will try to translate asap.


http://derhonigmannsagt.wordpress.co...son-verhaftet/
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Jessie Marsson is in jail. There is no need to translate.
Its the same old story.

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Beim Prozess wegen Betruges am 5. März 2011 habe sich einer seiner Freunde (ein 37-Jähriger aus Rosenheim ) vor Gericht als Angeklagter gleichen Namens wie Marsson ausgegeben, was von einem Zeugen bemerkt wurde. Daraufhin wurde der anwesende Beschuldigte noch im Gerichtssaal festgenommen und Haftbefehl gegen Marsson, der sich in einem Wohnmobil nahe des Gerichts aufhielt, und eine weitere 44-jährige Person erlassen. Der Vorwurf lautet auf versuchte Strafvereitelung, Verschaffen von falschen amtlichen Ausweisen und mittelbare Falschbeurkundung.
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At the trial for fraud on 5 March 2011 had issued one of his friends (a 37-year-old from Rosenheim) in court as a defendant of the same name as Marsson what was seen by a witness. Thereafter, the accused was present in the courtroom, detention and issued a warrant against Marsson, who was in an RV near the Court, and another 44-year-old person. The allegation is tried on obstruction of justice, [B] of counterfeit official statements and indirect false certification
this is the person who tries to save children from porn rings. it is a really big joke and a shame to all people who really try to save children.

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Jessie Marsson is in jail. There is no need to translate.
Its the same old story.





this is the person who tries to save children from porn rings. it is a really big joke and a shame to all people who really try to save children.

Sources?

You surely know he was working on freeman projects in Germany?

That is why he denies being a citizen of the FRG corporation.
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Old 26-04-2011, 10:21 PM   #36
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I have spent aproxx. over a year with this shit each day.
I have my thoughts and they are not quite well pro Jessie.
I only hope he will ever learn to speak truthfully.
If he doesnt know he should simply shut up.
You can find his fraudulent sayings all over the internet.
Start with the 'enemy' esowatch.
They have a very good timeline and try to make an assumption.
Almost all is true on that site.
I've seen this one time from another view point but with the discussions I've had all the months
you will see that the truth is almost very simple.
At least no matter of why he is in jail. It is good he is into it for the people he pranked and who nobody knows.
You need to research for yourself. It is a lot personal experience and research work.
What I can say is that I have learned that people can be wolves in sheep clothes.

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I have spent aproxx. over a year with this shit each day.
I have my thoughts and they are not quite well pro Jessie.
I only hope he will ever learn to speak truthfully.
If he doesnt know he should simply shut up.
Just my first thought: you should confront him and talk to him face to face.
What you are doing here is not only damaging his reputation, he is human after all and deserves at least basic respect, but also discrediting the whole FREEMAN ON THE LAND movement.

Please try at least to subordinate your ego.

Thanks.

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I have spent aproxx. over a year with this shit each day.
I have my thoughts and they are not quite well pro Jessie.
I only hope he will ever learn to speak truthfully.
If he doesnt know he should simply shut up.
You can find his fraudulent sayings all over the internet.
Start with the 'enemy' esowatch.
They have a very good timeline and try to make an assumption.
Almost all is true on that site.
I've seen this one time from another view point but with the discussions I've had all the months
you will see that the truth is almost very simple.
At least no matter of why he is in jail. It is good he is into it for the people he pranked and who nobody knows.
Response to your edited comment:

I have not much to add to my previous comment,
except if you are in for the most blatant drudges of the system like "esowatch" then I am no longer inclined to discuss your points of view.

Thanks for all the fish ...


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I have not much to add to my previous comment,
except if you are in for the most blatant drudges of the system like "esowatch" then I am no longer inclined to discuss your points of view.

Thanks for all the fish ...

you know this is the problem in this all. everytime i write for myself, there comes this comment. It is not such a surprise for me, as people who i talked to for months and who tried to spread love to each other, are not able to speak truthfully to each other. I only recommend to watch the information and to research for yourself. I did not say you shall believe what i put onto a plate.

If you can try to find out Jessie's real name, you would be near to what i am trying to tell you. This is not about esowatch. Esowatch is a tool. there is not the good and the bad. There are people outside who don't want to be pranked by esowatch nor by Jessie. I hope I made it clear. I am very much aware of what Esowatch is doing. But what you can read there is something you could have find out on your own plus much much more. They do not know everything.

it is the same what we are doing on "news behind the news".

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you know this is the problem in this all. everytime i write for myself, there comes this comment. It is not such a surprise for me, as people who i talked to for months and who tried to spread love to each other, are not able to speak truthfully to each other. I only recommend to watch the information and to research for yourself. I did not say you shall believe what i put onto a plate.

If you can try to find out Jessie's real name, you would be near to what i am trying to tell you. This is not about esowatch. Esowatch is a tool. there is not the good and the bad. There are people outside who don't want to be pranked by esowatch nor by Jessie. I hope I made it clear. I am very much aware of what Esowatch is doing. But what you can read there is something you could have find out on your own plus much much more. They do not know everything.
If this happens increasingly often, did you ever start to take into account that this has less to do with others than with your self?

I am very critical generally and also about Jessie Marrson, but I really trust Jo.

Please don't fall for the deceivers. This may sound idiotic but try to keep your brain, body and soul clean. Don't mess around with the satanic forces.

I would not speak with you like this if I did not like you very much.

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