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Old 13-03-2010, 10:23 PM   #1
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Just a couple quotations to help you start asking questions.

If one planet is hollow then most likely all planets are formed hollow. If you're unfamiliar with the growing earth theory - learn about it. If you're shocked at the idea that the moon is hollow, you should be shocked at your own inability to directly address the facts of the situation rather than respond from ego and assumption.

Hollow Moon?

The idea of Hollow Planets seems to have found a home for itself among Russian scientists more than anybody else. In this century Russians have twice suggested that planetary bodies might be hollow. The first was the suggestion that one of the moons of Mars was hollow. The second was when two senior scientists from the Soviet Academy of Sciences (as it was then known) suggested that our Moon was hollow. In the mid-1970s Vasin and Shcherbakov from the Soviet Academy of Sciences suggested that the Moon was a huge alien spaceship! No one really knows how the Moon came into being. If the Moon and Earth formed together in orbit, why are the surface materials of these two worlds so dissimilar? There are also some rocks found on the Moon which might be older than the Earth. Perhaps the Moon came from elsewhere? Perhaps even from outside our solar system. Many scientists have suggested that. But here Newtonian gravity becomes the problem. According to all calculations and models produced by scientists, the chances of a successful capture of the Moon by the Earth as a mere random event is one in billions. How could the Earth have captured the Moon against such odds? That is why these two Russian scientists suggested that the Moon was steered into orbit by intelligent beings – who perhaps are no longer around. Or perhaps they still live there inside the Moon? Why a hollow Moon then? Apollo 12 placed the first seismometer on an alien world. NASA did not expect many Moon quakes. The expected the Moon to be seismically dead. To ensure some kind of seismic results they deliberately caused part of a rocket to crash into the Moon. When they did this, the results astounded all the theoreticians. The Moon’s behaviour was quite unexpected. It “rang like a bell” for almost an hour. Scientists were quite stunned at the time. It may interest the Reader to know that in 1959 a prominent Russian astronomer produced spectrographs showing what he believed was a volcanic eruption which he detected on the Moon. There is indeed more activity on the Moon than we used to think. The Moon is definitely not as geologically dead as one may think. We now know that Moon quakes occur with clock-work regularity.

In getting back to my original subject of a hollow moon, I will discuss in greater detail, with scientific data gained from various ligitimate sources, as to why the Moon is hollow and thus of artificial engineering!
It may have been created in some natural way by the great Intelligent Designer, but some of his intelligent creation,(and not humans) have engineered it into some gigantic spaceship!!! Want proof, then read on. Here are the thirteen anomalies I will discuss, one at a time.
1. The moon is far older than previously thought, even older than the earth.
2. The moon has at least three distinct layers of rocks. The heaviest layers are found on or near the surface!
3. If the earth and moon were created at the same time, as theory suggests, and near each other, then why has earth got far more iron and the moon very little?
4. Moon rocks were found to be extremely dry, devoid of water, and do not appear to have had water ever in any substantial amount. Yet moon rocks were found containing bits of 'rusted' iron!
5. Water vapor clouds were observed over the surface of the moon, coming from within the Moon, releasing the water vapor during moonquakes. Why?
6. Moon rocks were found also to be magnetized, not strongly enough to pick up nails or even a paper clip, but magnetized just the same. But how can this be since the Moon has no magnetic field?
7. Where did the maria come from on the surface of the Moon, since the moon has never been hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions?
8. Why is four-fifths of the maria surface of the Moon all located on the Earthside hemisphere? Few maria are found on the far side of the Moon!
9. What are the mysterious mascons- or large dense circular masses buried deep within the moon, some 20 to 40 miles below the surface where each maria is located?
10. Is the Moon hollow? Then why is the interior - core of the Moon much less dense than the outer layers?
11. Why were metals such as elemental titanium, uranium, and pure(non-rusting) iron found in the hardened surface and lighter elements like pure elemental aluminum nonexistent?
12. Why should the Moon have a near perfect circular orbit around the Earth?
13. Is the Moon the creation of some highly advanced alien intelligence, and is there falsifiable scientific proof of this theory???


"I have been convinced that the Moon was a hollow body that had been moved into
orbit by SOMEONE for about 5 years, since I read the books by Don Wilson
called "Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon", and "Secret Of Our Spaceship Moon"
which covers the evidence described by Jim and a great deal more.

Unlike many speculative theories, like Hoagland's, the evidence for the
artificiality of the Moon in it present form is solid and varied. NASA
scientists themselves have said that the hollow moon model fits the facts ---
but of course it can't be true.

> > On a more sincere note, I can't see why the moon is so anomalous because
> > the rocks are old. And from what we've been told, they really aren't so
> > different, at least chemically.
>
> If the age of the rocks were the only thing, fine , but this is the first
> I've heard that they are similar chemically - and the surface being that
> old means that most of the meteorite bombardment must have taken place
> sometime prior to the dated formation of the rocks , because they were
> molten at that time and just beginning the aging process.

The surface of the moon is NOT similar to that of the earth, unless your
neighborhood is high in glasses containing refractory metals like Titanium.

The presence of these metals is very difficult to explain, because the Moon
does not have enough gravitational pressure or radioactivity in its core to
be an active volcanic body which would be capable of spewing these materials
up to the surface. And the materials are concentrated in the seas so they
could not be the result of passage of the Moon near the Sun.

They COULD easily be explained if these materials were pumped out of the
Moon when it was hollowed out.

In addition these lunar surface materials are very dense, yet the Moon as a
whole has a density about half that of earth. The Moon would float in water!
So obviously the interior must be very rarified to compensate for this.

Also, the unexplainable Mascons you mentioned are concentrated on the OTHER
side of the Moon, in the opposite location you would expect from tidal forces,
which would tend to pull them around to this side. How do they stay over
there?
>
> There were other anomalies discovered by the space missions that I didn't
> mention . The astronauts found it extremely difficult to drill into the
> surface of the moon below the loose dust layer . When the discarded
> descent stages of the spacecrafts crashed on the moon , NASA noted that
> the moon "rang like a gong or bell " for up to four hours after impact.

Yes, a NASA scientist said the acoustic characteristics were that of a hollow
Titanium sphere 60 miles below the surface. In addition, the scientists saw
EXACTLY the same seismic traces each time a meteorite would hit, as if it were
vibrating some fixed bodies inside the moon.

> So it's important to look at evidence in terms of it's totality , or
> cumulative effect ,

And you have not covered a great deal of the outstanding evidence, Jim. It
would take 20 pages just to LIST the anomalous features of the Moon! One I
don't believe you mentioned: the Moon is placed in orbit at exactly the
distance from the Earth so that it covers the Sun during a solar eclipse.

Isaac Asimov in one of his books commented on the improbability of this
occurring by chance.

> and ask questions as to WHY have we not gone back to
> the moon to find answers. The capabilities of the shuttle would certainly
> make this possible by ferrying - docking lunar exploration equipment into
> orbit piece by piece , instead of boosting everything up there in one shot
> like we used to.

Well, the question is, if we had gone back there, would we the people know
about it? Brian O'Leary in his first book about his experiences as an
astronaut (sorry I've forgotten the name of the book) says that the military
had a parallel space program in existence, the "blue" program, with its own
manned launch facilities at Merritt island, some distance north of Cape
Canaveral. I've never been able to authenticate this though.

> > Or maybe someone at NASA knows the moon is an artificial object and there
> ARE artifacts of some kind there that should be kept from public view.

Or maybe we were kicked off. The question that has to be asked is WHY an ET
race would go to all this trouble to rebuild the Moon and move it into its
present orbit. I will not speculate on this here, but if you think about it I
you will see certain consequences that call into question our whole view of
ourselves as a species.
>

There are unquestionably large artifacts on the moon. Although Richard
Hoagland's theories are numerological and cannot be taken seriously, he has
uncovered some evidence that it solid and conclusive. His "glass domes"
theory doesn't bear up under even cursory examination, because it relies on
evidence at the edges of photographic resolution, but there is other
photographic evidence that is VERY clear. Take a look at the "spire" or the
"city" images on his web site and see what I mean. With Hoagland you musn't
confuse the message with the messenger."
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The Moon - What Is It
And Who Made It?

Ted Twietmeyer
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2-19-6

New research shows that our Moon is much older than originally thought. It may also be far older than either the Earth or our Sun. Our Earth is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old. However, Moon rocks brought back by Apollo were dated at 5.3 billion years old, and the dust upon which they rested was about one billion years older. Who put it there and why? Can carbon dating pf moon rocks be that far off? Perhaps, but far more evidence of the satellite's unusual history and characteristics have been out there all along - hidden in plain sight as we shall see.




http://www.solarviews.com/cap/moon/moon1.htm
Apollo 17 Moon View (NASA)


In a past article (April 17th 2004 - "Our Solar System Is No Accident" [1]) I stated that the Moon must have an artificial origin, since no natural explanation has proven viable for it's existence. Let us explore what science might be available to further this concept. There is a very large body of evidence that clearly shows something strange is connected with this orbiting body. Yet none of this data has ever been publicly explored or discussed in documentaries.

We will begin with the known statistics of our satellite: [2]

Though not listed above, the Moon is also suspected to have multiple magnetic fields. This theory was the result of researching satellite probe data. It is important to keep this in mind for later discussion. (The exact origin of the Earth's magnetic field is has not been established.)

For readers who may not be aware, the Moon provides important timing functions for tides to control Earth processes. Without tides, it is believed that the world's oceans would have almost no life, drastically affecting the food chain for our planet. Science already knows that tides control the behavior and life cycles of shore and sea-based creatures. These include various species of fish, sea turtles, penguins and many more that use tide cycles for planting eggs. Mechanically, the Moon also acts like a huge flywheel stabilizing the Earth's rotation. Recently the wobble in the Earth's rotation has abruptly ceased with no explanation from the science community as of this writing. Could the Moon have caused this to happen?

MOONQUAKES

Various theories have been attributed to the Moon's origin. However, there is a silence from NASA regarding the seismographic instrument data that Apollo left behind - Moonquakes are taking place on our nearest neighbor. This equipment could run for many decades, as each installation is powered by a radioactive isotope thermal generator. Even more strange are that these events are taking place on the far side. This was discovered more than 20 years ago. Could there be a connection to the Earth's wobble and the presence or absence of Moonquakes? This has yet to be proven.

A planetary sciences meeting was chaired by P R Stoddard, Department of Geology and Environmental Geosciences, Northern Illinois University; R C Elphic, Los Alamos National Laboratory in August of 1985. A large body of evidence was provided which showed some very odd events taking place on the Moon. [3]

Studies regarding Moonquakes and magnetic "anomalies" (a word virtually patented by NASA for an unplanned "event or observation") show strange things are taking place on our silver neighbor. In the meeting, a paper was presented by Nakamura, Y. Institute for Geophysics, University of Texas at Austin titled "Deep Moonquakes: Remaining Problems."
Here is an extract of their research paper summary. They state the center of the Moon may be hollow. My explanation of scientific terms are enclosed ini [ ]:

"We have recently reexamined more than 9000 previously unidentified seismic events catalogued during the Apollo landing missions and positively identified for the first time about 30 deep Moonquake nests on the far side of the Moon. Although only a few of them are currently locatable, the relative arrival times among stations for the rest and presence or absence of seismic signals at particular stations suggest that either:

(a) The region within about 40 degrees of the antipode [a point on the opposite side] is aseismic [a place where no Moonquakes have ever been observed.]

(b) Or the deep interior of the Moon severely attenuates or deflects seismic waves.
In (b) above, this could make sense if the deep interior is hollow. Aside from the obvious question of how to distinguish between such hypothetical models, this effort raised several more general questions concerning the use of deep Moonquake signals to infer the structure and dynamics of the deep interior of the Moon... "

MAGNETIC FIELDS OF UNKNOWN ORIGIN

Another paper titled "Correlations Between Magnetic Anomalies and Surface Geology Antipodal to Lunar Impact Basins" was also presented by Richmond, N C, Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics, Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California and Hood, L L, Lunar and Planetary Laboratory, University of Arizona, Tucson. The summary for this paper states "Previous work has shown that the strongest concentrations of lunar crustal magnetic anomalies [magnetized areas] are located antipodal [opposite sides of the Moon] to four large, similarly aged impact basins (Orientale, which is furrowed and pitted terrane and Serenitatis, Imbrium which is material of grooves and mounds and Crisium).

Only these areas have been selected due to:

a) Limited Lunar Prospector magnetometer data coverage of the area antipodal to Serenitatis [name of a crater] and
b) The location of the Crisium antipode, which is dominated by ejecta deposits from the more recent Orientale impact.

Here, we report results of a correlation study between magnetic anomaly clusters and geology in areas antipodal to Imbrium and Orientale...This is supported by an observed lack of demagnetisation associated with the 61 km Copernican-aged O'Day crater at the edge of Mare Ingenii, which suggests a deep source for the anomalies [unexplainable magnetized areas.] Possible source materials and the origin of the magnetisation will be discussed at the conference."

Put in simplified terms, this paper showed that magnetized areas were found on the OPPOSITE side of the Moon from large craters. The data was obtained from the orbiting Lunar Prospector satellite. Yet in the absence of an overall planetary magnetic field (magnetosphere) no one can determine how this magnetization could happen. Perhaps a meteorite hitting the Moon is like striking an iron rod, which if done just right can align the molecules to form a magnet. The problem here is that the area the researchers are talking about is 2,000 miles away from the crater - on the opposite side of the Moon!
Molten magnetite rock on Earth is well known to have molecules aligned to the Earth's magnetic field while cooling. This pattern is permanently retained and has helped scientists to determine when and how often the Earth's magnetic poles have flipped. Unfortunately, no magnetosphere encompassing the entire Moonhas been detected as of this writing.
Among the other papers at the conference was yet another titled "Lunar magnetic anomalies in the solar wind: Possible existence of mini-magnetosphere" written by Kurata, M of the Tokyo Institute of Technology, Tsunakawa, H also of the Tokyo Institute of Technology, and Saito, Y of the The Institute of Space and Astronautical Science.


Here is an extract of that paper's summary:


"It has been suggested that lunar magnetic anomaly fields are interacted with the solar wind plasma to form the mini-magnetosphere on the lunar surface...Lin et al.(1998) pointed out that a mini-magnetosphere was formed in the solar wind downstream of the strong magnetic anomaly in Imbrium antipode region... If the mini-magnetosphere exists on the lunar surface deflects solar wind particles, its role of barrier could produce a high-albedo region around the magnetic anomaly. In this study, we mainly investigate magnetic anomaly fields in the solar wind at low-altitude (15-40 km) with a data of level 1.


We detected lunar magnetic anomalies after preprocessing of the level 1 data... In the present study, magnetic anomalies were mapped from the data sets in the tail lobe, the Moon wake and the solar wind, and were compared with each other... Its contour pattern of magnetic field intensities in the tail lobe or the wake is almost symmetrical with respect to the north-south line. However, such symmetry [of the magnetic field] is obviously distorted in the solar wind to show some elongation toward the downstream of the solar wind. Also, the form of distortion [of the magnetic field] seems to be changed when the solar wind conditions (dynamic pressure, the angle of incidence, and so on) are different. These results may support existence of the mini-magnetosphere in Reiner Gamma region. We will discuss the possible mini-magnetosphere comparing the LP MAG data with the ACE data of the solar wind."


The above summary tells us that a solar wind appears be affected by a mini-magnetosphere! Yet other researchers claim this field cannot exist! Perhaps the true nature and characteristics of the solar wind are not fully understood. Many other papers and studies exist that use data collected by NASA instrumentation which we cannot cover here. The general public is completely unaware of most of these papers, as scientists tend to stay within their own disciplines (and circles of friends) for peer review.


RESONANCE


When the spent Lunar Landers were commanded to crash into the Moon from orbit, the Moon rang for an unexpected period of time. The first time was on November 20, 1969 and it used the lander for the Apollo 12. The seismographs left behind caused the Moon to ring for more than an hour. Apollo thirteen's third stage impact on the Moon was even more incredible. Reverberations lasted for three hours and twenty minutes, down to an estimated depth of twenty-five miles. This ringing seems to suggest the Moon may have no core at all.


STRANGE MATERIALS AND SHAPES




http://www.solarviews.com/cap/moon/clmsouth.htm
Lunar South Pole (NASA)


This mosaic is composed of 1,500 Clementine images of the south polar region of the Moon. The top half of the mosaic faces Earth. One can easily see a counter-clockwise, swirl-like pattern of craters. Is this pattern the result of random impacts of over eons of time or just an illusion?

The lunar crust is also much harder than previously thought. Astronauts had difficulty when drilling for samples on the Lunar surface (maria.) The maria is composed primarily illeminite, a mineral containing large amounts of titanium which is an extremely hard metal, and quickly wears out the best machine tool bits. Titanium is also very light in weight, like aluminum. Uranium 236 and neptunium 237 (elements not normally found on Earth) were discovered in lunar rocks. How did these elements get there? If one were to argue they were formed on the Moon, then how did this happen?






http://www.solarviews.com/cap/moon/moondust.htm
Orange colored glass spheres and other fragments from Apollo 17, which is actually dust under high magnification.


The particles shown range from 20 to 45 microns, and was brought back from the Taurus-Littrow landing site. Scientist-Astronaut Harrison J. Schmitt discovered the dusty orange soil at Shorty Crater. The orange particles are mixed with black grains of other material, and are about the same size as the particles that compose silt on Earth. Chemical analysis of the orange soil material revealed it is similar to samples from the Apollo 11 landing area (Sea of Tranquility) site several hundred miles to the southwest. Like Apollo 11 samples, Apollo 17 samples are also rich in titanium (8%) and iron oxide (22%). Unlike the Apollo 11 samples this orange soil is also unexplainably rich in zinc. The orange soil is probably of volcanic origin and not the product of meteorite impact. (NASA)
The question is - could volcanic action have existed on the Moon? It remains unproven if the Moon ever had volcanoes in the ancient past.

ORBITAL ODDITY

Ours is the only Moon in the solar system with a stationary, circular orbit which is almost perfectly circular. The Moon,s center of gravity is approximately 6000 feet closer to the Earth than its geometric center. This should make the Moon wobble but it does not. The resultant bulge is located on the far side of the Moon, opposite the side facing our Earth. It begs to ask the question - who or what put the Moon into correct orbit? Who or what established the perfect velocity? This is clearly no accident.

POSSIBLE FIRST SIGHTING OF THE MOON BY MAN AND FLASHES OF LIGHT
One of the most fascinating of the lunar observations are flashes of light. Ancient authors such as Aristotle and Plutarch wrote about a group called the Proselenes of Greece. This group claims to have existed before the Moon was in orbit. Heiroglyphs found near the city of Tiahuanaco, Bolivia record the Moon entering into orbit about 11,500 to 13,000 years ago.


Other historians and writers such as Aristarchus, Plato, Eratosthenes, Biela, Rabbi Levi, and Posidonius all reported anomalous lights on the Moon. One year before the first Apollo landing, NASA reported that more than 570 flashes were observed on the Moon over more than 400 years, from 1540 to 1967.


On July 29, 1953, John J. O,Neill observed a 12-mile-long bridge straddling the crater Mare Crisium. In August, British astronomer Dr. H.P. Wilkens verified its presence, "It looks artificial. It,s almost incredible that such a thing could have been formed in the first instance, or if it was formed, could have lasted during the ages in which the Moon has been in existence.


An obelisk-shaped object that towers 1 miles from the Ukert area of the Moon,s surface, was discovered by Orbiter 3 in 1968. Dr. Bruce Cornet, who studied the amazing photographs, stated, "No known natural process can explain such a structure."
One of the most curious features ever photographed on the Lunar surface (Lunar Orbiter photograph III-84M) is an amazing spire that rises more than 5 miles from the Sinus Medii region of the lunar surface.


The Obelisks: Lunar Orbiter II took several photographs in November 1966 that showed several obelisks, one of which was more than 150 feet tall. ". . . the spires were arranged in precisely the same was as the apices of the three great pyramids." [4]


SUMMARY

Almost everything we look at with regard to the Moon does not fit any known natural method of formation. Either our neighbor is artificial, or it is not. Scientists everywhere continue to find oddities that strongly indicate artificial origin. If it is artificial, what does this say about our Earth's origins? Could life have been sustained on our Earth if the Moon was not in orbit before 13,500 years ago? Everything we know about the mechanism and cycle of life in our oceans indicates it could not. To form an object the size of our Moon requires physics, engineering and materials manufacturing technology far beyond anything we can imagine today. Are the depressionas and deep holes we casually label as craters without giving it a second thought - actually craters?

Perhaps one day the Moon's creators will land on Earth to see what our progress is. Then they will takeoff again to go dust off their creation with a wave of their hand over a control panel? That's all fine and dandy - as long as they don't kidnap the "man in the Moon."
Summer nights would never be the same again without him...

Ted Twietmeyer

Inventor, engineer and frequent rense.com contributor, Mr. Twietmeyer is author of "What NASA Isn't Telling You About Mars" which is available at
www.data4science.net/book

REFERENCES
[1] "Our Solar System Is No Accident" -
http://www.rense.com/general51/solar.htm
[2] Moon statistics -
http://www.solarviews.com/eng/moon.htm#stats
[3] Moon conference details -
http://www.agu.org/meetings/fm04/fm0...fm04_P23A.html
[4] Strange Moon Facts -
http://www.informantnews.com/starshi...nar/moon2.html
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1. Moon’s Age: The moon is far older than previously expected. Maybe even older than the Earth or the Sun. The oldest age for the Earth is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old; moon rocks were dated at 5.3 billion years old, and the dust upon which they were resting was at least another billion years older.

2. Rock’s Origin: The chemical composition of the dust upon which the rocks sat differed remarkably from the rocks themselves, contrary to accepted theories that the dust resulted from weathering and breakup of the rocks themselves. The rocks had to have come from somewhere else.

3. Heavier Elements on Surface: Normal planetary composition results in heavier elements in the core and lighter materials at the surface; not so with the moon. According to Wilson, "The abundance of refractory elements like titanium in the surface areas is so pronounced that several geologists proposed the refractory compounds were brought to the moon’s surface in great quantity in some unknown way. They don’t know how, but that it was done cannot be questioned." (Emphasis added).

4. Water Vapor: On March 7, 1971, lunar instruments placed by the astronauts recorded a vapor cloud of water passing across the surface of the moon. The cloud lasted 14 hours and covered an area of about 100 square miles.

5. Magnetic Rocks: Moon rocks were magnetized. This is odd because there is no magnetic field on the moon itself. This could not have originated from a "close call" with Earth—such an encounter would have ripped the moon apart.

6. No Volcanoes: Some of the moon’s craters originated internally, yet there is no indication that the moon was ever hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions.

7. Moon Mascons: Mascons, which are large, dense, circular masses lying twenty to forty miles beneath the centers of the moon’s maria, "are broad, disk-shaped objects that could be possibly some kind of artificial construction. For huge circular disks are not likely to be beneath each huge maria, centered like bull’s-eyes in the middle of each, by coincidence or accident." (Emphasis added).

8. Seismic Activity: Hundreds of "moonquakes" are recorded each year that cannot be attributed to meteor strikes. In November, 1958, Soviet astronomer Nikolay A. Kozyrev of the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory photographed a gaseous eruption of the moon near the crater Alphonsus. He also detected a reddish glow that lasted for about an hour. In 1963, astronomers at the Lowell Observatory also saw reddish glows on the crests of ridges in the Aristarchus region. These observations have proved to be precisely identical and periodical, repeating themselves as the moon moves closer to the Earth. These are probably not natural phenomena.

9. Hollow Moon: The moon’s mean density is 3.34 gm/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water) whereas the Earth’s is 5.5. What does this mean? In 1962, NASA scientist Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated, "If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere." Nobel chemist Dr. Harold Urey suggested the moon’s reduced density is because of large areas inside the moon where is "simply a cavity." MIT’s Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote, "the Lunar Orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moon’s gravitational field . . . indicating the frightening possibility that the moon might be hollow." In Carl Sagan’s treatise, Intelligent Life in the Universe, the famous astronomer stated, "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."

10. Moon Echoes: On November 20, 1969, the Apollo 12 crew jettisoned the lunar module ascent stage causing it to crash onto the moon. The LM’s impact (about 40 miles from the Apollo 12 landing site) created an artificial moonquake with startling characteristics—the moon reverberated like a bell for more than an hour. This phenomenon was repeated with Apollo 13 (intentionally commanding the third stage to impact the moon), with even more startling results. Seismic instruments recorded that the reverberations lasted for three hours and twenty minutes and traveled to a depth of twenty-five miles, leading to the conclusion that the moon has an unusually light—or even no—core.

11. Unusual Metals: The moon’s crust is much harder than presumed. Remember the extreme difficulty the astronauts encountered when they tried to drill into the maria? Surprise! The maria is composed primarily illeminite, a mineral containing large amounts of titanium, the same metal used to fabricate the hulls of deep-diving submarines and the skin of the SR-71 "Blackbird". Uranium 236 and neptunium 237 (elements
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Uranium 236 and neptunium 237 (elements not found in nature on Earth) were discovered in lunar rocks, as were rustproof iron particles.
12. Moon’s Origin: Before the astronauts’ moon rocks conclusively disproved the theory, the moon was believed to have originated when a chunk of Earth broke off eons ago (who knows from where?). Another theory was that the moon was created from leftover "space dust" remaining after the Earth was created. Analysis of the composition of moon rocks disproved this theory also. Another popular theory is that the moon was somehow "captured" by the Earth’s gravitational attraction. But no evidence exists to support this theory. Isaac Asimov, stated, "It’s too big to have been captured by the Earth. The chances of such a capture having been effected and the moon then having taken up nearly circular orbit around our Earth are too small to make such an eventuality credible."
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13. Weird Orbit: Our moon is the only moon in the solar system that has a stationary, near-perfect circular orbit. Stranger still, the moon’s center of mass is about 6000 feet closer to the Earth than its geometric center (which should cause wobbling), but the moon’s bulge is on the far side of the moon, away from the Earth. "Something" had to put the moon in orbit with its precise altitude, course, and speed.
14. Moon Diameter: How does one explain the "coincidence" that the moon is just the right distance, coupled with just the right diameter, to completely cover the sun during an eclipse? Again, Isaac Asimov responds, "There is no astronomical reason why the moon and the sun should fit so well. It is the sheerest of coincidences, and only the Earth among all the planets is blessed in this fashion."
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15. Spaceship Moon: As outrageous as the Moon-Is-a-Spaceship Theory is, all of the above items are resolved if one assumes that the moon is a gigantic extraterrestrial craft, brought here eons ago by intelligent beings. This is the only theory that is supported by all of the data, and there are no data that contradict this theory.
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The moon has been observed by humanity for our entire recorded history. This object is identified in the aspect that it has a name and we know its there, even so it cannot yet be disqualified as a UFO. Even after six visits to the moon by US astronauts between 1969 and 1972, the moon remains an enigma to scientists in many regards. Scientists had hoped that by studying the moon they could solve some of the mysteries surrounding the formation of our solar system. Before the Apollo missions, the moon was thought to be the Rosetta Stone of the planets. Yet after the missions, lunar scientists were no closer to answering even the most basic of questions about the moon, even on how it formed. Despite 842 pounds of rocks and soil samples, photos and video tapes, and five nuclear powered scientific stations, the mysteries are still there. Indeed, what we have learned in the wake of the missions has only raised more questions.
Consider what writer Earl Ubell wrote: " The lunar Rosetta stone remains a mystery. The moon is more complicated than anyone expected; it is not simply a kind of billiard ball frozen in space and time as many scientists had believed. Few of the fundemental questions have been answered, but the Apollo rocks and recordings have spawned a score of mysteries, a few truly breath stopping." What are these "breath stopping" mysteries? For one, some of the lunar rocks have been found to be 5.3 billion years old. The earth by contrast is thought to be around 4.6 billion years old, while the oldest rocks on the earth are only about 3.5 billion years of age. I suppose the discrepency lies in that the rocks did not formed until the earth had cooled sufficiently. This mystery is compounded by the fact that the dust in which the rocks were located was found to be another billion years older than the rocks themselves. Another discovery was that the moon rocks were a completely different composition than the dust in which they were found. If the dust and the rocks were being formed by impacts, they would be the same. It is a problem without an easy answer.
Another puzzle the moon rocks presented was the fact that they were found to be magnetized. The reason this is so strange is that the moon does not have a substantial magnetic field. The argument could be made that the rocks were magnetized by the earths magnetic field, yet this argument collapses when you consider that if the moon ever got close enough to the earth to pick up a magnetic field, it would be ripped apart by earths gravity. So how were they magnetized? Again, nobody knows. Another mystery surrounds the moons large maria, the large dark areas that speckle the moons surface. That they appear to be the result of large outpourings of molten rock from the interior is not questioned. Yet they cannot easily be dismissed as being the result of natural volcanism either. The
maria are relatively smooth, with few craters on them. Yet, in order to explain them as the result of volcanism, they should have been formed at the very early stages of the moons birth. The interior of the moon is relatively cool compared to the earth, and this suggests that any volcanism that took place took place while the moon was still hot: ie. in its early years.
So looking at the facts, it appears that the moon ejected large amounts of molten rock by an unknown means. Another interesting fact about the maria is the presence of mascons located almost directly in the center of each maria area. The mascons are large, dense nearly circular areas underneith the marias. They were detected by the space craft that orbited the moon, as fluctuations in the moons gravity. No one has a clue what they are, unless you are willing to consider they may be artifcial in nature. Skeptics will often declare that they are iron meteorites, yet if that were true and they had hit the moon with enough force to go that deep they would have not only vaorized, they would have created huge craters.
I will also quickly comment on the various times that glowing lights have been observed on the moon from the earth. The most common explanation for these events is that they are caused by gasses escaping from the moons interior. Yes thats it, magical glowing gasses (please note my use of sarcasm here). By themself, these events would not seem that odd, yet when considered in light of everything else, they are.
There are many indications that the moon may be hollow. There was actually quite a debate going on about it in the 60's. A NASA scientist named Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated " If astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon be less dense than the outer parts. Indeed it would seem that the moon is more like a hollow rather than a homogenous sphere." MIT's Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote " The lunar orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moons gravitational field...indicating the frightening possibility that the moon may be hollow." Why did he choose the word frightening? The great skeptic Carl Sagan summed it up in his book Intelligent Life in the Universe: "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."
The most startling evidence came on November 20, 1969 when the Apollo 12 crew, upon returning to the orbiter sent the lunar module (LM) crashing back down into the moon. The LM struck the surface about forty miles from the Apollow 12 landing site, where sensitive seismic equiptment had been left. It recorded something both astounding and unexpected. The moon reverberated for more than an hour like a bell. The vibration wave took 8 minutes to reach a peak and then decrease. At a news conference that day, one of the co-directors of the seismic experiment, Maurice Ewing, told reporters scientists were at a loss to explain the ringing. "As for the meaning of it, I would rather not make an interpretation now. But it is as if someone had struck a bell, say in the belfry of a church in a single blow and found that the reverberation continued for an hour." Dr. Frank Press of MIT added "None of us have ever seen anything like this here on Earth. In all of our experience it is quite an extraordinary event. That this rather small impact... produced a signal that lasted an hour is quite beyond the range of our experience." The phenomenom was repeated with the Apollo 13's third stage, which was sent crashing by radio command. This time the reverberations lasted 3 hours and 20 minutes.
Many people may recall the astronauts vain attempts to drill into he moons
marias. The specialized drills were unable to penetrate more than a few inches, obstensibely due to the presence of titanium. However, this mystery was compounded by the discovery of what appeared to be processed metals. Rocks were found to contain brass, mica and amphibole in addition to the near pure titanium. Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 - elements not found previously in nature were also found in moon rocks. While trying to explain the presence of these materials, scientists were startled to find rust proof iron in samples from the Sea of Crisis. Iron that does not rust is unknown in nature and is well beyond mans present technology.
Now for myself, the most compelling piece of evidence of the moons unnatural origins come from one of my favorite books The Cambridge Atlas of Astronomy. In the chapter on the moon, three possible origins for the moon are given.

1) It formed with the Earth ; ie from the same material that formed the Earth.
2) It was created during a collision with a large comet or planetoid with the Earth.
3) It was a rogue satellite captured by the Earth.

I am happy to say that according to The Atlas, all three theories have been completely debunked. ( Happy because I love a good mystery). The composition of the moon is different than the Earth. The Earth has alot of iron, the moon has almost none. The age of the moon rocks and samples is older than anything on the Earth. So that totally rules out number 1 and most of number 2. Indeed, the differing compositions of the 2 bodies and their age difference really does rule out number 2. However, in support of debunking that arguement, the fact is there is no evidence that the Earth was ever involved in such a collision, and there is no debris left over orbiting the Earth. Another puzzling fact, the moon is the only satelite in the solar system which does not orbit a planet in the plane of the planets rotation.

Which brings us to number 3, the moon was a wandering planetoid that was captured by the Earth. Not only that, but was captured in such a way that the same side always faces the Earth, (thus the dark side of the moon). And the moon is the exact distance away to be the exact same apparent size as the suns disc. You can see that if you are fortunate to be in an area of totality during a solar eclipse. Taking into account the size of the moon, you know what the chances of this all ocurring naturally are? Well they are so close to being zero that it is considered the most unlikely of the scenarios. The odds are so astronomical as to be impossible. So there you are, the moon is a UFO!
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1. The Puzzle of the Moon's Origin: Scientists have generally offered three major theories to account for the moon in orbit around our planet. All three are in serious trouble, but the least likely theory emerged from the Apollo missions as the favorite theory. One theory was that the moon might have been born alongside the earth out of the same cosmic cloud of gas dust about 4.6 billion years ago. Another theory was that the moon was the earth's child, ripped out the Pacific basin, possibly. Evidence gathered by the Apollo program indicates though that the moon and the earth differ greatly in composition. Scientists now tend to lean toward the third theory- that the moon was "captured" by the earth's gravitational field and locked into orbit ages ago. Opponents of the theory point to the immensely difficult celestial mechanics involved in such a capture. All of the theories are in doubt, and none satisfactory. NASA scientist Dr. Robin Brett sums it up best: "It seems much easier to explain the nonexistence of the moon than its existence."

2. The Puzzle of the Moon's Age: Incredibly, over 99 percent of the moon rocks brought back turned out upon analysis to be older than 90 percent of the oldest rocks that can be found on earth. The first rock Neil Armstrong picked up after landing on the Sea of Tranquility turned out to be more than 3.6 billion years old. Other rocks turned out to be even older; 4.3, 4.5, 4.6, and one even alleged to be 5.3 billion years old! The oldest rocks found on earth are about 3.7 billion years old, and the area that the moon rocks came from was thought by scientists to be one of the youngest areas of the moon! Based on such evidence, some scientists have concluded that the moon was formed among the stars long before our sun was born.

3. The Puzzle Of How Moon Soil Could Be Older Than Lunar Rocks: The mystery of the age of the Moon is even more perplexing when rocks taken from the Sea of Tranquillity were young compared to the soil on which they rested. Upon analysis, the soil proved to be at least a billion years older. This would appear immpossible, since the soil was powdered remains of the rocks lying alongside it. Chemical analysis of the soil revealed that the lunar soil did not come from the rocks, but from somewhere else.

4. The Puzzle of Why the Moon "Rings" like a Hollow Sphere When a Large Object Hits It: During the Apollo Moon missions, ascent stages of lunar modules as well as the spent third stages of rockets crashed on the hard surface of the moon. Each time, these caused the moon, according to NASA, to "ring like a gong or a bell." On one of the Apollo 12 flights, reverberations lasted from nearly an hour to as much as four hours. NASA is reluctant to suggest that the moon may actually be hollow, but can otherwise not explain this strange fact.

5. The Puzzle of the Mystifying Maria of the Moon: The dark areas of the moon are known as maria (seas, as this is what they looked like to early astronomers- dried-up seas). Some of these maria form the familiar "man-in-the-moon" and are strangely, located almost entirely on one side of the moon. Astronauts found it extremely difficult to drill into the surface of these dark plainlike areas. Soil samples were loaded with rear metals and elements like titanium, zirconium, yttrium, and beryllium. This dumbfounded scientists because these elements require tremendous heat, approximately 4,500 degrees Fahrenheit, to melt and fuse with surrounding rock, as it had.

6. The Puzzle of the Rustproof Iron Found on the Moon: Samples brought back to earth by both Soviet and American space probes contain pure iron particles. The Soviets announced that pure iron particles brought back by remote controlled lunar probe Zond 20 have not oxidized even after several years on earth. Pure iron particles that do not rust are unheard of in the scientific world (although there is a solid iron pillar of unknown age in New Delhi, India, that has also never rusted, and no one knows why).

7. The Puzzle of the Moon's High Radioactivity: Apparently, the upper 8 miles of the moon's crust are surprisingly radioactive. When Apollo 15 astronauts used thermal equipment, they got unusually high readings, which indicated that the heat flow near the Apennine Mountains was rather hot. In fact, one lunar expert confessed: "When we saw that we said, 'My God, this place is about to melt! The core must be very hot.' " But that is the puzzle. The core is not hot at all, but cold (in fact, as was assumed, it is a hollow sphere). The amount of radioactive materials on the surface is not only "embarrassingly high" but, difficult to account for. Where did all this hot radioactive material (uranium, thorium, and potassium) come from? And if it came from the interior of the moon (unlikely), how did it get to the moon's surface?

8. The Puzzle of the Immense Clouds of Water Vapor on the Dry Moon: The few lunar excursions indicated that the moon was a very dry world. One lunar expert said that it was "a million times as dry as the Gobi Desert." The early Apollo missions did not find even the slightest trace of water. But after Apollo 15, NASA experts were stunned when a cloud of water vapor more than 100 square miles in size was detected on the moon's surface. Red-faced scientists suggested that two tiny tanks, abandoned on the moon by U.S. astronauts, had somehow ruptured. But the tanks could not have produced a cloud of such magnitude. Nor would the astronauts' urine, which had been dumped into the lunar skies, be an answer. The water vapor appears to have come from the moon's interior, according to NASA. Mists, clouds and surface changes have allegedly been seen on the moon over the years by astronomers. For instance, six astronomers in the last century have claimed to have seen a mist which obscured details in the floor of the crater Plato. Clouds on the moon are extremely odd, because the moon's supposed small gravity (one sixth of the earth's, claim many conventional scientists and NASA) could not hold an atmosphere or have any clouds on it at all.

9. The Puzzle of the Glassy Surface on the Moon: Lunar explorations have revealed that much of the moon's surface is covered with a glassy glaze, which indicates that the moon's surface has been scorched by an unknown source of intense heat. As one scientist put it, the moon is "paved with glass." The experts' analysis shows this did not result from massive meteor impactings. One explanation forwarded was that an intense solar flare, of awesome proportions, scorched the moon some 30,000 years or so ago. Scientists have remarked that the glassy glaze is not unlike that created by atomic weapons (the high radiation of the moon should also be considered in light of this theory).

10. The Puzzle of the Moon's Strange Magnetism: Early lunar tests and studies indicated that the moon had little or no magnetic field. Then lunar rocks proved upon analysis to be strongly magnetized. This was shocking to scientists who had always assumed that the rocks had "some very strange magnetic properties...which were not expected." NASA can not explain where this magnetic field came from.

11. The Puzzle of the Mysterious "Mascons" Inside the Moon: In 1968, tracking data of the lunar orbiters first indicated that massive concentrations (mascons) existed under the surface of the circular maria. NASA even reported that the gravitational pull caused by them was so pronounced that the spacecraft passing overhead dipped slightly and accelerated when flitting by the circular lunar plains, thus revealing the existence of these hidden structures, whatever they were. Scientists have calculated that they are enormous concentrations of dense, heavy matter centered like a bull's-eye under the circular maria. As one scientist put it, "No one seems to know quite what to do with them."
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Impact crater evidence indicates hollow planet structure
Craters on planets present a new intriguing mystery. Geological imprints left from medium to large impacts are at odds with our current understanding of inner planetary structure.

All terrestrial (rocky) planets within the Solar System bear the scars of past celestial impacts. Craters of all sizes pinpoint locations where meteorite and asteroid debris impacted with unimaginable force. None of the planets or moons escaped the era of the 'Great Bombardment'. Falling material originates from the remains of the galactic cloud which condensed to form the planetary bodies of the Solar System. Impacts were generally larger and more frequent in the past, an indication of the gradual diminishing of potential impact material left in space.

The structure of impact craters

A crater consists of two primary regions, the excavation zone and the deposition zone.

The excavation zone is geologically concave. It is the region carved out by the force of the impact. Here, original surface material has been thrown out in all directions.

The deposition zone is convex. It surrounds the impact excavation. In this region, ejected material has been deposited creating familiar crater walls. Often, lines of debris extend for distances across the planet's surface radiating from the impact site.




Impact crater sizes

Craters exist in sizes from those no bigger than a human hand right up to massive impacts thousands of kilometres across. The size of a crater governs its format. By analysing this size relationship it is possible to determine the planetary structure beneath.

This is where some amazing facts come to light.

Small craters



Craters up to 25 Kilometres in diameter have a typical deep bowl structure. Surface material has been thrown out from the impact site leaving this classic deep hole shape surrounded by a wall of loose debris.



This is the classic crater format where a body impacts a solid surface with stable foundation. When we examine crater structures from larger impacts, the classic format begins to change. Larger crater shapes show planetary surfaces reacting differently.

Medium craters



Craters between 25 kilometres and 130 kilometres in diameter are structured differently to small craters. They usually have a central peak. And in proportion to diameter, the excavation zone is much shallower

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What causes the shallow structure of medium craters?

The shallow structure of medium sized craters indicates another factor has come into play. Instead of excavating a proportional amount of material as in smaller craters, here some of the impact force has been absorbed.

But what is responsible?

The existence of a central peak is the vital clue. It is now considered this feature, unique to medium size craters, is the result of matter thrust upward immediately after the impact. Scientific theories relate it to the planet's surface effectively rebounding or springing back after such an impact. It is likened to a droplet thrown up when a marble is dropped into water.

This challenges all conventional ideas of an impact being an excavation event. A part of the force has reacted in the opposite direction.

If the planet's surface deflects inwards under the weight of an impact, then it must be assumed at the precise moment of impact, the crater would have been deeper. After the event, the depth reduced as the surface rebounded.

But what about the central peaks? The energy required to thrust matter upward into these mountainous shapes is enormous. Such energy could not be sourced from a gradual returning or reforming of the planet's surface. Rebounding must have been rapid. This action catapulted central matter upward.

However, rapid surface rebounding presents certain difficulties that challenge our current understanding of inner planetary structure.

When one considers the sheer size of many of these craters, how does a planet's already super compressed solid structure deflect inward and further compress to the extent required? And, what causes the rapid rebounding? If planets are indeed solid and compressed as we believe, then a normal concave crater should be excavated.

As we investigate further, the larger the crater the more perplexing the mystery becomes.

Large craters



Craters over 130 kilometres in diameter are different again. Their inner regions are terraced by concentric rings. The floors are very shallow. And, instead of being concave as would be expected, they are convex following the planet's natural surface curvature.

Two typical examples are; the Coloris Basin on Mercury which is 1,300 kilometres in diameter and the Mare Orientale crater on the Moon with a diameter of 900 kilometres. The floors of both craters are convex following the surface curvature of Mercury and the Moon. In the case of the Coloris Basin, Mercury's original surface crust, now extensively cracked, is seen still on the surface within the crater remaining aligned with planet's outer surface curvature.

Mare Orientale Crater on the Moon



As is clearly seen in the above photo, the floor of the Mare Orientale Crater is convex. It is aligned with the normal surface curvature of the Moon. The 'crater rim' reveals the outer boundary of the impact 'excavation zone' (900 km diameter). 'Concentric rings' are seen within the crater rim.

Coloris Basin Crater on Mercury



Again, the floor of the Coloris Basin on Mercury is convex, following normal planetary curvature. Here, the 'crater rim' indicates a diameter of 1300 km. As is normal with impact craters of this size, concentric rings are seen within the 'crater rim'.

The convex crater floor structure of large impacts

How does the crater floor from a celestial impact of this size end up convex? An impacting asteroid would excavate considerable material dispersing it in all directions form the site. An obvious large depression or excavation should be left behind in the surface of the planet. But, contrary to observable facts, this does not happen. The crater walls are over the horizon from the centre of these large impacts!

This is an amazing situation particularly when one considers the following. The excavation Zone (crater) must have been concave at the moment of impact otherwise deposition would have occurred closer to the centre (see diagram). With the Coloris Basin, any assumed excavation hole has not been filled by volcanism. The original planetary surface is still present on the surface, aligned with planetary curvature.

This can only be caused by planetary surface rebounding.

Crustal rebounding during crater impacts

If we are to accept the convex formation of the Coloris Basin on Mercury and the Mare Orientale on the Moon are the result of surface rebounding after impact, one has to consider the sheer scale of rebounding taken place. Both involved a large portion of the planet's (or Moon's) mass.



The above diagram shows the extent of deflection and rebounding required to produce the visible features found on Mercury. A conservative estimated depth of 200 kilometres or more would have occurred. How is it possible to achieve such a deflection depth followed by subsequent rebounding to original surface level in such a short period of time? This is inconceivable on our solid and compressed planetary model! The Mare Orientale on the moon shows a similar result of 150km required rebounding.

Our current concepts cannot explain medium to large crater characteristics. On a solid planet we would expect craters of all sizes to be excavated into concave structures. But this is contrary to observable facts.

Science cannot explain these anomalies using the solid and compressed planet theory because it is flawed.

Medium to large impacts react as they do because inner planetary structure is not solid. It is hollow. A hollow planet model successfully explains all observable crater features.

Large crater impacts on a hollow planet explain crustal rebounding



Hollow planets do not require massive compression to deflect inward at the point of celestial impact. Decompression is not required for surfaces to rebound. Larger impacts simply push the planetary wall inward over a large area. This deflects the surface away from natural gravitational balance. Deflection dampens the excavating power of the impact force. After the impact, the planetary wall 'falls' back out into gravitational balance. This happens rapidly, providing the reason for peaks in medium craters. Peaks do not remain in large craters because the volume of matter involved is large enough to fall back and level out with the floor of the crater. The surface within a major impact may rise and fall several times before coming to rest at gravitational balance. This can be compared to ripples on water after a stone is thrown in. This action produces the concentric rings and cracked surfaces seen inside large craters.

Central peaks are found in medium craters because the area rebounding is smaller. Surfaces do not rebound several times. This allows the peaks to remain intact. Small craters have a classic shape because there is insufficient force to deflect the planetary wall.

Our book The Land of No Horizon explores this issue in great depth. It exposes serious and obvious flaws in theories used to support present day beliefs concerning inner planetary structure. Relevant information omitted in the original decision making process is now assessed. It in turn presents fresh new evidence to the reader.

The Land of No Horizon uses scientific evidence and logically discusses both hollow planet structure and the expanding Earth theory. It is shown how in a growing planet, gravity accumulates and structures matter differently to what is currently believed. A planet's surface rebounds after an impact to realign with the force of gravity because of its hollow structure.
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When did the moon first accompany our earth? Perhaps it has been looking at the earth long before human beings appeared on earth.

Twenty-six years have passed since the first moon landing by the American astronauts from the Apollo 11 mission to the moon on July 19, 1969, yet human beings are no wiser than before about the moon. On the contrary, scientists are now perplexed by the data gathered by the instruments left on the moon. When we look at the moon at night, we a have familiar yet strange feeling. We can't help but ask, 'Dear moon, could you tell us a bit more about yourself? Where did you come from, for instance?'

At present, there are three theories to explain how the moon originated. The first one is that the dust and gaseous clouds from the universe formed the moon, just like our earth, 4.6 billion years ago. The second theory is that the moon was thrown off from the earth from somewhere under the Pacific Ocean. The third theory holds that the moon was an independent planet that was captured by the earth's gravitational force when passing by, and it has been revolving around the earth ever since.

Most scientists initially believed in the first theory, although some favored the second one. Yet, analysis of the moon soil samples brought back by astronauts indicates that the composition of the moon is different from that of the earth. The earth has more iron and less silicon deposited in it, while the moon is just the opposite. In addition, the earth has very few titanium ores, whereas the moon has many. These findings show that the moon was not separated from the earth. By the same token, the first hypothesis is also shaky. If the moon and earth were formed through the same process, at around the same time, then why are they so different in their composition? Scientists have abandoned the first theory, which leaves only the last theory. If the moon entered the solar system from outer space, it should have flown towards the Sun instead of being held by the earth, because of the sun's much stronger gravitational pull.

None of the three hypotheses proposed by orthodox scientists answers all of the questions or holds up to scrutiny. The origin of the moon still remains a mystery. There is plenty of room for people to propose new theories on the origin of the moon. No matter how ridiculous the theories may seem, they should not be labeled nonscientific out of hand, without careful consideration.

Some Peculiar 'Coincidences' Between the Sun, Earth, and Moon

Let's take a look at and think about some of the unbelievably peculiar astronomical phenomena that occur between the sun, earth and moon.

The average distance between the earth and the moon is 380,000 km, and between the sun and the earth is about 150,000,000 km. The latter is about 395 times further than the former. The diameter of the sun is about 1,380,000 km, while that of the moon is 3,400 km; the ratio of the two is again 395 times greater. Both ratios are 395. Could it
be a coincidence? What does it mean?

Please think about it. The sun is 395 times larger than the moon, yet it is 395 times farther away from the earth than the moon. The two appear the same size when seen from earth because of the distance differences. Is this a natural or artificial phenomenon? Where in the universe can one find three celestial bodies with this kind of coincidence?

The two planets shine on the earth in turns, one during the day and the other at night. There is not another example of such phenomena in our solar system. The prestigious scientist, Isaac Asimov, once said that, according to all the data available, the moon in principle should not exist in that position. He also said, 'The moon is big enough to result in a solar eclipse, yet small enough to generate corona. Our astronomy just can't explain the coincidence among the coincidences.'

Is it really a coincidence? Not really, according to some scientists. William R. Sheldon, a scientist, said, 'In order to orbit around the earth, a spaceship has to maintain a velocity of 10,800 miles per hour at a height of 100 miles. Similarly, in order for the moon to
keep itself in its orbit to balance the earth's gravitational force, it also needs accurate velocity, self-weight, and altitude.' The question is: if the current set of conditions is impossible to achieve by nature, why are they this way?

It's Too Big to be a Satellite

There are several planets in the solar system that have naturally occurring satellites. However, the moon is unnaturally large for a satellite. It is too large in comparison to its parent planet. Let us take a look at the following data. The earth's diameter is 12,756 km;
the moon's is 3,467 km, which is about 27% that of the earth's. Mars' diameter is 6,787 km. Mars has two satellites. The larger one has a diameter of 23 km, about 0.34% that of Mars. Jupiter's diameter is 142,800 km. It has 13 satellites. The largest one has a diameter of 5,000 km, which is 3.5% of Jupiter's. Saturn's diameter is 120,000 km. It has 23 satellites. The largest one has a diameter of 4,500 km, which is about 3.75% of Saturn's diameter. None of the satellites has a diameter exceeding 5% of the parent planet's diameter, but the moon's is 27% of the earth's diameter. Isn't the moon unnaturally
large by comparison? The data indeed indicates that the moon is extraordinary.

The Meteorite Craters Are All Too Shallow

Scientists tell us that the craters on the surface of the moon were caused by the impact of meteors or comets. There are also meteorite craters on earth. According to scientific calculations, if a meteorite of several miles in diameter hits the earth or the moon at
a speed of 30,000 miles per second, which is equivalent to one million tons of dynamite, the depth of the crater it creates should be four to five times that of its diameter. The meteorite craters on earth prove this to be correct. Yet the craters on the moon are strangely shallow. For example, Gagrin Crater, the deepest one, is only four miles deep, although its diameter is 186 miles. With a diameter of 186 miles, the depth of the crater should be at least 700 miles, instead of 4 miles, which is just 12% of the diameter. This is another scientific impossibility.

Why is it so? Astronomers are unable to come up with a perfect explanation and they don't seem to want to either. They know that a perfect explanation would overturn established theories. The only explanation is that the moon's crust is composed of a very hard substance four miles beneath the surface. The meteorites have failed to penetrate this hard layer. Then, what is the very hard substance?

Metals Whose Existence is Impossible

It is not strange that the moon craters have a great deal of lava. What is strange is that the lava contains rich metal elements such as titanium, chromium, yttrium, etc., which are rarely found on earth. Those metals are all very hard and resistant to both high temperatures and corrosion. Scientists estimate that it requires 2000-3000º C to melt these metals. But the moon has been a dead and cold orb without volcanic activity for three billion years. How did the moon generate so many kinds of metals that require such high temperatures to melt? Moreover, analysis of the 380 kg of moon soil samples brought back by astronauts shows that there is pure iron and pure titanium. Such pure metal deposits just aren't found under natural conditions.

What do the unexplainable facts tell us? They have undoubtedly demonstrated that these metal elements were not formed under natural conditions, but were extracted. Then the questions is by whom and when?

The Side that Can't Be Seen from the Earth

It is always the same side of the moon that faces the earth. Man did not see the opposite side until the spaceship landed there and photographed it. Astronomers had always thought that the backside should be similar to the front with many meteorite craters and lava seas. But the photographs showed a much different scene. The backside of the moon is very bumpy. Most are small craters and mountain ranges with very few lava seas.

Scientists are unable to explain the differences. In theory, the probability of being hit by meteorites should be the same for both sides of the moon if it was a naturally formed planet. Why is there a difference? Why is it always the same side of the moon that faces the earth? The explanation from the scientists is that the moon rotates around its own axis with a velocity of 16.56 km per hour, and it also revolves around the earth at exactly the same speed. Thus the same side always faces the earth.

This phenomenon does not exist for any other planet and its satellites in our solar system- nly for our earth and moon. Is it another coincidence along with the other coincidences? Is there an explanation other than coincidence?

Strange Phenomena in the Past Hundreds of Years

For the last 300 hundred years, astronomers have observed many unexplainable phenomena about the moon. Casini discovered a cluster of clouds over the moon in 1671. In April 1786, William Herser, the father of modern astronomy, observed the signs of volcanic eruptions on the moon, although scientists believe that there has not been any volcanic activity on the moon for 3 billion years. Then, what was observed that looked like volcanic eruptions?

In 1843, German astronomer John Schicoto, who made hundreds of maps of the moon, found that the Leany Crater, with an original diameter of several kilometers, was becoming smaller. Today, the Leany Crater is only a tiny spot with white sediment surrounding it. Scientists do not know why. On April 24, 1882, scientists discovered that there were unidentified objects moving on the surface in the Aristocrat's Zone. On October 19, 1945, the Darwin Wall on the surface of the moon was observed to have three shiny points on it.

On the evening of July 6, 1954, the head of the Minnesota Observatory and his assistants saw a dark line inside the Picallomy Crater, which shortly disappeared. On September 8, 1955, lightning appeared twice along the edge of the Ross Crater. Again on February 9, 1956, Dr. Toyota, Meiji University, Japan, saw several dark objects that seemed to have formed the shape of letters DYAX and JWA.

On February 4, 1966, a Russian unmanned space-vehicle, Moon Goddess 9, landed on the Rain Sea and photographed two rows of pyramid-like structures that were equidistant from each other. Dr. Van Sunder stated, 'They could strongly reflect the sunlight, pretty much like the marks on runways.' Calculated from the length of the shadows, the structures are about as high as a fifteen-story building. Dr. Van Sunder said, 'There were no highlands nearby from which the rocks would have rolled over to the current positions to form the geometrical shapes.'

Additionally, Moon Goddess 9 also photographed a mysterious cave on the edge of the Stormy Sea. Moon research expert Dr. Wilkins believes that these circular caves go directly to the center of the moon. Wilkins himself once discovered a gigantic cave at Casiny Crater A. On November 20, 1966, American Orbit 2 Exploration Spaceship photographed several pyramid-like structures from 46 km above the Tranquility Sea. Scientists estimated that the pyramids are 15 to 25 meters high and that they are also geometrically positioned. The structures are lighter in color than the rocks and soil around them and they are obviously not natural objects.

On September 11, 1967, the Montelow Team of astronomers discovered a 'black cloud with purple borders' over the Tranquility Sea. The strange phenomena were not observed by laypeople, but by astronomers and spaceship probes. This means that the moon does have many mysteries unknown to human beings.

UFO over the Moon

On November 24, 1968, Apollo 8, while investigating future landing spots, encountered a colossal floating object that occupied several square miles. When Apollo 8 came back to the same spot from its orbital lap around the moon, the object was no longer there. What was it? No one knows. Apollo 10, while at 50,000 feet above the moon, was approached by an unidentified flying object. This encounter was documented on film. On July 19, 1969, Apollo 11 carried three astronauts to the moon who later became the first men on the moon. En route to the moon, the astronauts saw an unusual object in front of them. Viewing at a distance of about 6,000 miles, they initially thought that it must be the rocket propeller from the Apollo 4. Looking through binoculars, they found that the object was L-shaped. 'It looked like an opened briefcase,' said Armstrong. Looking further through a sextant, they found the object looked like a cylinder. Another astronaut, Aldrin, said, 'We also saw several smaller objects passing by, causing turbulence to our ship, then we saw this brighter object flying by.' On July 21, when Aldrin entered the Landing Capsule for final check-up, he suddenly saw two floating objects. One of them was bigger and brighter, flying at high speed in parallel to the spaceship's front, which shortly disappeared. It reemerged a few seconds later. At that moment the two objects shot out two light beams that joined together. Then they suddenly separated from each other, ascended rapidly and disappeared.

When the astronauts were about to land on the moon, they heard the voice from Control Center, 'Control Center calling Apollo 11, what are they out there?' Apollo 11 answered, 'These babes are humongous, Sir . . . a lot of them . . .Oh, my God, you won't believe it. Let me tell you there are other spaceships there . . . by the edge of the circular craters, and they are well positioned . . . and they are watching us from the moon . . ..' Russian scientist Dr. Arched said, 'According to our intercepted signals, the encounter with floating objects as the Apollo 11 landed was immediately reported.' On November 20, 1969, astronauts Conrad and Brian of Apollo 12 observed floating objects when they landed on the moon. Astronauts landing on the moon from Apollo 15 in August 1971, Apollo 16 in April 1972, and Apollo 17 in December 1972 also encountered the floating objects.

Gary, a scientist, once said, 'Almost all the astronauts have seen some unidentified flying objects.' Edwards, the sixth astronaut to land on the moon, said, 'The only question is where they came from.' John Younger, the ninth astronaut on the moon, said, 'If you don't believe it, it is like you don't believe in a sure thing.' In 1979, former NASA Director of Communication Molly Chertlin stated that 'encountering the floating objects' is very common. She went on, 'All the spaceships have been followed by some floating objects either at a distance or very closely. Whenever it happens, the astronauts would contact our mission center.'

Years later, Armstrong revealed, 'It is incredible . . . We were all warned that there are for sure cities or spaceships on the moon . . . I can only say that their spaceships are much superior and they are huge . . ..' Thousands of the lunar mystical phenomena, such as the
mysterious lightning, white and black clouds, structures, floating objects and so on, are all facts observed by astronomers and scientists. They are yet to be explained as to what they are.


The Moon is a Hollow Spaceship

In 1970, Russian scientists Alexander Scherbakov and Mihkai Vasin proposed a shocking Spaceship Moon hypothesis to explain the origin of the moon. They believe that the moon is in fact not a natural satellite of the earth, but a spaceship created by intelligent beings that modified and reshaped a planet. There are a lot documents regarding their civilization stored inside the moon, which was intentionally placed above the earth. All of the discoveries of the moon are in fact the outstanding work of the intelligent beings that live inside of it. Of course, the scientific community is scornful of the theory, because they have not captured any ET yet. Nonetheless, it is undeniable that the moon has been shown to be hollow by data gathered so far.

What perplexes scientists the most is the data gathered from the instruments left on the moon which measure the quake activities of the moon's crust. The data indicates that the quake waves spread from the epicenter along the surface of the moon only, but not into the center of the moon. This shows that the moon is hollow and it is nothing but a crust. If it was a solid planet, the quake waves should also propagate toward the center. How could they only go along the surface?


Reconstruct New Theories About the Moon

Let's construct a new theory about the moon. It is hollow and has two layers of crust. The outer crust consists of rocks and mineral ores. Meteorites can only hit through this crust. The known craters are no deeper than four miles. Thus, this outer crust is at most five miles thick. The inner crust is a hard, artificial alloy shell of unknown thickness-probably several miles. Its metal elements include iron, titanium, chromium, and others that resist high temperatures, high pressure and corrosion. It is an alloy unknown on earth.

The moonquake data indicates that moonquake waves propagate along the moon's surface but not towards its center. This means that the moon only has two layers of crust. Thus the moon must be artificial, rather than naturally formed. Intelligent beings must have conducted accurate calculations to transport the moon from their star system to the solar system and to position it where it is in order to provide light to the earth at night. In conclusion, none of the three traditional theories of the origin of the moon is correct.

The beings that constructed the moon allow only one side of the moon to face the earth because there are many observation devices on the earth. They themselves live inside the moon closer to the back. Because the surface temperature of the moon varies from 127º C at noon to -183º C at night, the inhabitants live inside the moon.

The moon-making beings have invented flying saucers and they often fly out to do research, maintain their surface devices, or to watch the earthlings' activities. They are thus sometimes seen by astronauts from earth or observed by telescopes on earth. We don't yet know what kind of aliens they are or how long they have been there. Perhaps before long, earthlings will find out the truth about the moon.

We have constructed this theory to explain the origin and structure of the moon by using the lunar phenomena that cannot be explained by traditional science. This theory perfectly solves each and every mystery surrounding the moon. Who would argue that our approach is non-scientific?


The Real Story of the Moon
In his 'Lecture in Switzerland' Mr. Li Hongzhi said this about the origin of the Moon: 'In the past, the situation was different than that of today¡¯s science. The people of the different time periods were of course developing in the ways of those times. People in one of those times recognized the inconvenience that the dark of night caused people, so they constructed a moon up there to bring light to Earth during the night. '

Mr. Li Hongzhi further explains this in Zhuan Falun (Volume II): 'In the prehistoric period, the human civilization sometimes lasted long, sometimes short. Some human civilizations lasted very long. Mankind in every cycle takes a different way in the development of science. People of the present civilization are confined to the established conventions of the present development of science and cannot realize that there are other ways of science. In fact, the ancient science of China was completely different from the science introduced from the present-day Europe. In ancient China, people did direct research on the human body, life, and universe. The ancients dared to touch the intangible and invisible things and were able to verify their existence. The sensation one feels when he sits in meditation will become more and more keen, until finally one not only has a very keen sensation, but also can touch or see it, which has raised something invisible to something tangible. The ancients took another way to probe the secrets of life and the relationship between the human body and the universe. That is completely different from the way taken by the present-day science of authentic proof.
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As quoted from Hamlet: "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy".

Earth's Moon and Human Evolution
Dr. N Huntley, Ph.D.
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It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the Moon is not what it appears; that it is not just another satellite orbiting a planet, Earth, but an entity which has thrown the minds of some of the greatest thinkers and scientific brains into a quandary and bewilderment unprecedented in the history of astronomy. Why haven't you heard about this? Another government cover-up? How could Moon mysteries have anything to do with government secrecy, and moreover could it relate to the suppression of the space programme?

Let us outline some of the extraordinary anomalies and mysteries surrounding this puzzle. Clearly not all data will be equally reliable but the abundance of interrelated information nevertheless gives an overall picture which can be determined with some certainty. The first academic enigma must surely be that the Moon is apparently in its wrong orbit for its size. However, this would presumably be based on its assumed density. Technical reports claim a density of 3.3 for the Moon compared with 5.5 for Earth. Astronomy data indicates that the internal regions of the Moon are less dense than the outer, giving rise to the inevitable but outrageous speculation that it could be hollow. The eminent and late scientist Carl Sagan, a typical sceptic, had made the statement, "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object." But meaning here that if it is hollow, it is not a natural satellite -- and therefore artificial.

Possibly the strongest evidence for it to be a 'hollow object' comes from the fact that when meteors strike the Moon, the latter rings like a bell. More specifically when the Apollo crew in November 20, 1969 released the lunar module, after returning to the orbiter, the module impact with the Moon caused their seismic equipment to register a continuous reverberation like a bell for more than an hour. The same effect occurred with Apollo 13's third stage which caused the Moon to ring for over three hours. So what's going on with the Moon?

Two Soviet scientists, Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov, have spent much of their careers examining the facts compiled on lunar phenomena. Their conclusion is that the Moon is artificial, possibly a hollowed-out planet, and that it was steered from some distant region of the galaxy into a circular orbit around our planet (hence the extraordinary mystery of rock and Moon-dust age variations). They claim that intellectual life has existed in the Moon for eons.

In 1968 as Apollo 8 moved into orbit around the Moon, the astronauts spotted a colossal extraterrestrial object, which then had disappeared on the next orbit. Photographs were taken, of course, but not released to the public. On another occasion when the lunar excursion module was down to 4-5 miles from the Moon's surface astronauts witnessed a UFO suddenly rise from a crater and rapidly disappear. In 1969, "Buzz" Aldrin was checking the lunar surface from orbit, when two UFOs appeared, moved towards the Apollo rocket, hovered nearby, then to Aldrin's utter astonishment the UFOs joined to form one entity.

Furthermore, astronauts of Apollo 11 saw a spacefleet of UFOs lined up in a crater. Almost every Moon mission involved encounters with UFOs or UFO sightings, not to mention the discovery of many bases on the Moon's surface. Renowned astronomer Patrick Moore discovered over one hundred dome-like buildings. In fact, about one thousand such bases, dome-like structures of diameter around 700 feet, have been witnessed. Astronomy records extending back 200 years indicate no such artefacts until about the 1950s (remember the book entitledAlternative III?). Many of the UFO encounters by the astronauts were stated to be of a positive nature in which unintrusive assistance was given.

It has been found that asteroids and meteors not only create shallow craters on the Moon's surface but produce a convex floor to the crater instead of concave as expected, supporting the idea of a rigid shell. Countless other pieces of evidence from astronomers and NASA scientists began to reveal that some 2-3 miles down there appear to be dense layers of metal -- which would explain why the craters were convex. But the most astonishing conclusion is that the only theory which can completely explain all the anomalies is that the Moon is hollow with a shell about 20 miles thick --mostly metal. Note that mascons (higher concentrations of mass) found in the marias cause fluctuations in gravity and have never been satisfactorily explained.

Moreover, these structural anomalies were supported by two publications, one Time Magazine, which unwittingly revealed the gravity value of the Moon relative to Earth by publishing the distance from Earth to Moon of the null point between them, indicating a gravitational force some 60 -70 % of Earth. Furthermore, some people noticed the feeble plumage of the rocket exhaust as the module rose from the Moon's surface---explained away by NASA as due to the vacuum. But what about some of the telltale and suspicious features observed during the first Armstrong and Aldrin Moon landing.

The American flag was seen briefly to wave in... a breeze? But we are told there is no air on the Moon. The flag was then starched. Also we saw dust kicked up by the astronauts clearly drifting in... what? Dust particles do not drift in vacuum -- they cling together. And what about the feeble leaps of the astronauts off the Moon's surface -- were their spacesuits and backpacks really so heavy? The Moon is supposed to be about one-sixth the gravity of Earth.

Thus we now know that air is present, and the feeble rocket exhaust could not be due to a vacuum. Moreover, the exhaust was apparently too weak to account for the necessary power to escape from such a gravitational pull in relationship to the size of the module, which was not large enough to contain the necessary fuel to escape the Moon's high gravity. Was antigravity propulsion secretly being used as a booster?

The covert government have long since sent 'astronauts' into outer space in antigravity spacecrafts. They apparently had the so-called cosmospheres about 40 years ago, some larger than the old and massive dirigibles. They seized the antigravity research data from the Nazis, and have since then reverse-engineered captured spacecrafts and negotiated deals with aliens involving antigravity technologies.

The more thorough have been the investigations of the Moon the more bizarre the results have been. Probably one of the most startling was that moonquakes occurred like clockwork. Moreover, the fluctuations on each occasion were the same. This is impossible for natural conditions which always obey fractal distributions. Furthermore, a study of rock samples reveal an age of 5.3 billion years, and that not only is the Moon older than the Earth, estimated to be about 4.6 billion years, but that it is older than the solar system (and by theoretical standards as old as the universe).

What about the surface of the Moon? Several television viewers wrote explaining that they spotted one of the astronauts pick up what appeared to be a glass bottle and remark, "My God, I don't believe it, look at this ..." Then the television screen went blank. Other viewers observed the extreme difficulty astronauts had when drilling down a few inches into the Moon's marias and that when the drill bit was pulled out, metal shavings were visible. Rocks were found to contain brass, mica, titanium, and elements uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 not previously found in nature.

Astronomy literature reports the sighting of a 12-mile bridge-like structure over the Sea of Crisis in 1954 by John O'Neile, and in the 1950s astronomer Morris K. Jessup realised that UFOs had bases on the Moon (and so does the government of course). Other strange lunar phenomena are: the observation by Dr. Frank Harris of a black body on the surface, 250 miles long and 50 miles wide; clouds and lightning; strange moving shadows and objects, and spire-like structures thousands of feet high; a huge boulder with tracks (behind it) from inside a crater to the rim (uphill); the shrinking, over a period of time, of the crater Luna from six miles in diameter to one and a half miles; 'hill' effects in craters appearing and disappearing in a few hours; over 800 substantial observations made by scientists of blinking and flashing lights; the results of NASA photographs of the lunar surface, indicating several large pyramid structures, strange rifts in the surface with entrances, massive girders, machinery and some 1000 kilometre blocks of metal, alongside tears in the surface. This reveals massive subsurface interior 'plumbing', huge crosses a mile long, and enormous excavating equipment.

Professional astronomers have gradually been discouraged from investigating these observations, referred to as Transient Lunar Phenomena, and all such Fortean observations are now only of interest to the amateur.

Our satellite has long since been established as being extremely dry but this information has been contradicted by the appearance of clouds on the surface. On one occasion a cloud of water vapour appeared covering more than 100 square miles. And it has been reported that strange clouds appear at lightning speed. The capture theory that the Moon was pulled into its orbit by the Earth was once favoured but the circular orbit of the Moon invalidated it. As already mentioned the Moon is the wrong size and in the wrong orbit. It is too big and too far out. It does not rotate relative to Earth; the same side always faces the Earth. And what about the amazing 'coincidence' of the eclipse phenomenon. The position and size of the Moon is precisely that necessary to eclipse the Sun's disc.

Scientific experts, including NASA investigators believe that the Moon is hollow -- it is the only explanation. The velocity of sound has been found to increase with depth and at 40 miles it is too fast for the speed of propagation through rock substance.

'Spaceship Moon' is the brainchild of the two Soviet researchers but many others agree with the theory, including NASA scientists at JPL and an Oxford University physicist. The capture theory is now back in favour but with a significant adjustment that the Moon was steered into orbit.

It might be worth a comment on the recent 'conspiracy theory' that astronauts never actually went to the Moon. DVDs and television programmes have proffered that, in particular, photographs allegedly taken on the Moon were faked. In fact one can see clearly in the photographs that the shadows of objects on the Moon were not parallel as they would be if the shadows were cast by the Sun, rather than by studio lighting. Further evidence has been given. But we may know from earlier suspicions that NASA has a propensity for faking scenes -- for example, the view of the interior of the shuttle faking an outer-space mission when actually on the ground. Thus the conclusion, and personal opinion of the author, is that both scenarios are correct: astronauts did land on the Moon, and NASA has produced faked photographs.

Was the space programme cut because further encounters with UFOs might blow the government cover-up? Even more important than this, allowing the public to increase their confront and interest in the subject of Extraterrestrials would eventually lead to a worldwide awakening of the human race's true heritage, the causes of our downfall, the falsification of our history, and ultimately the disclosure and eradication of the control mechanism.

We see that the Moon mysteries are intimately bound up with extraterrestrial sightings and involvement, in particular, the conclusion of the two Russian scientists that the Moon is artificial and hollow. Is this a favourable omen for the human race or a harbinger of something more ominous. Why was the Moon directed to retain continuously a dark side? A side of the Moon we never see. Also police records referring to increased crime during the full Moon are commonplace. A study of ET material of which literature today abounds, strongly indicates that the nature of the Moon has a sinister purpose and plays a role in manipulating man's evolution.
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Our Moon's Forbidden History

We live in interesting times. We all share a common interest in our countries and our world. We show a temporary interest in space as new and unseen information and discoveries are shared, then that interest is incorporated into day to day survival. I would like to share with you information regarding the Moon and our Solar System. This information was shared with me by Andromedan Cosmonauts.

It is my hope that I can only add to the information and hidden revelations. As I have been reminded by my friends from Andromeda, we all have a piece of the puzzle. I offer this perspective as a piece of that puzzle. It is not my wish to detract or prove anyone incorrect. I myself have taken this information with the understanding that it is just a small part of a larger drama playing itself out in our backyard and on our home, Earth. This information was given over a period of contacts, both physical and telepathic. The following is the Andromedan perspective of our moon.

Our Moon has an atmosphere comparable in many places to that of Earth. In many of the large craters on the visible and the hidden side, the atmosphere is said to be denser than sea level on Earth. Our Moon has a small egress at its north pole, and the crust is thinly shelled in places. It is only twenty-one miles thick in some places, and thirty-five miles in others.

We've been told that our moon is dry. A million times dryer than the Gobi Desert. According to the Andromedans it all depends on where you are. They say the hidden side has many large underground lakes, huge in size. The irrigation and terra forming is occurring on the hidden side on the surface, but is occurring underground on the visible side to hide the agenda. Apollo 15 discovered and took pictures of water vapor clouds that appeared from the hidden side. This would be most odd and unusual if the moon really didn't have much of an atmosphere, as we've been told. Because clouds would be impossible.

The age of the Moon soil is 6.2 billion years old, and has compound and chemicals not found on Earth. In fact, there are many chemical compounds that were discovered, but withheld from the public. There are many more we've yet to discover because our science is not advanced enough yet. The lunar soil did not come from the rock that makes up its mountains and craters. This is known to some lunar scientists. However, its not spoken about, but in whispers. So, where did the soil come from?

The Andromedans say the soil and many of the rocks come from Ursa Minor. The location is a solar system named in the Orion tongue "CHOWTA". This is a binary sun system. We have many similarities in our system as well. "CHOWTA" is a very large system, holding 21 planets and 47 moons. Our moon is said to have been made around the 17th planet in this system.

Portions of the moons crust is radioactive. Apollo 15 discovered this. Especially near the Apennine mountains. Why were the readings so hot? The Andromedans have said it's because some nuclear waste was brought up there to be reused as a fuel supply for the spacecraft that the world government has built. However, many of the ships that use nuclear fuel are obsolete now. So, how was the moon brought here? It was, I'm told by the Andromedans, put into the tail of an asteroid which brought it into our solar system. This same asteroid circles our part of the galaxy every 25,156 Earth years. Andromedans have said that our moon has been inhabited periodically in it's history for 1.8 million Earth years.

The Moon is hollow. It contains huge underground facilities built by ET's and later humans from Earth. There are seven openings into the Moon's crust, and the underground bases. Conservative scientists have wondered why so many craters seem so shallow, despite their size. The Andromedans say, it's because much of the surface was built on top of a metallic shell of a circular space crest; or " A War Carrier ", as the Andromedans describe it. An example of a shallow, but large crater would be the crater Gagarin. This crater is roughly 185 miles across, but is only 4.5 to 5 miles deep. Based on the impact and size across the craters welt on the surface, the depth should be 4 to 6 times that deep. In fact, all the craters are the same; they are too shallow. They defy known science.

Many of the craters have been artificially created. The Andromedans have said that many of the craters on the far side were in fact domed cities at one time and that they were destroyed during a war that goes back 113,000 yrs. Many were used as domed cities and other larger craters were used as space craft hangers capable of capable of housing 200 craft.

The surface bases consisted of 9 domed cities which would be equal to a small city. Small lakes or ponds were scattered along the surface. The remains of these domed structures were discovered by NSA astronauts, Russian astronauts, and the NASA Apollo astronauts. The true military complex of the moon is now underground. Entrances to this alien and Human base is at both poles, the Taurus Mountains, Jules Verne crater on the far side and Archimedes. These are the original entrances. The black government has created more openings and is currently expanding the underground complex. The expansion is for the operation of private scientific and military agendas for the World Order.

Andromedans also state that it was a military outpost, until it was needed in our part of the galaxy to end a rebellion that was taking place. The personnel consisted of Reptilian, half-human/half-reptilian and those who would be known as humans.

Many of the original structures on the surface of the moon were destroyed during what the Andromedans refer to as the "Black League Conflict". This was a battle fought by humans of different systems that formed a secret alliance, and fought the tyranny of the Orion Empire. Continuous destruction occurred on one side of the moon as it was being transported here by space debris. The side that suffered the heaviest destruction is the visible side we see. The destruction was caused by particle beam weapons when our Moon was located in the orbit of Maldek, now a destroyed planet.

Our present Moon was one of two moons, that orbited it. The second moon, I'm told, is the moon Phobos. It also has ruins on it, as does Venus which was a moon of Uranus. Uranus is abundant with plant and mammal life. The glass that is abundantly spread over the moons surface came from the Domed cities that were once on this war carrier. I would like at this point to explain how the moon is supposed to have gravity. Now this is Andromedan science and it flies in the face of our own science. But regardless, here is the Andromedan reasons for the moon having gravity.

Our sun produces a highly penetrating radiation in the electromagnetic spectrum. This frequency is approximately a trillion cycles a second. This frequency is located between the lower portion of the infrared and radar band. It is this radiation from the sun that causes gravity, not the planets rotation. I will explain more of this when we address the hollow Earth. The Andromedan science claims that any planetary body that is 29.3 miles in size and is exposed to a sun, is capable of a gravity field. Even if it is not rotating on its axis.

The Andromedans have related the following series of events to me. They have said that this information has been recorded. I have not seen this yet. So, I'm relaying this information to you the reader in faith of its accuracy.

Upon arriving on the surface of the moon, the NSA astronauts, together with their tour guides, the Greys, were taken to the underground facilities where the remains and skeletons of Reptilian-like beings and human beings were found. Also, old Orion technology was discovered. This location has been identified by the Andromedans as underneath the crater named Jules Verne. The Andromedans say the size of this facility hidden under the hidden side of the moon is approximately the size of New York state.

These huge underground facilities contain large lakes, plant life of Earth, alien form manufacturing machinery, food storage facilities, and space craft hangers. Also, alien writing is to be witnessed on the walls in the hallways. The NSA astronauts also were shown eight vaults that were sealed, but information regarding their contents has not been disclosed to me. Artificial Terra environments are being created all the time to house and support hand-picked personnel by the World Government.

The human leader of this base or facility is called Mr. Secretary. The Moon now houses approximately 36,719 human beings from Earth, a small colony; only Aryans by birth. According to the work that is being done above and underground to expand the facilities, the Andromedans foresee a population of 600,000 in the very near future. Much contact is taking place on the moon between regressive aliens and World Order humans.

Currently, the World Order has fifty-three Earth built UFO type space craft on the moon. Also, other weapons beings built on the moon are particle beam weapons, lasers, nuclear bomb satellites, and anti-matter weapon systems. Anti-gravity anomalies on Earth were used to send equipment and hardware to the Moon. Pine Gap, Australia and Diego Garcia Island in the Indian Ocean were the primary launching areas. Also, Siberia in Russia is another location.

There is an atmosphere on the far side of the Moon being created on the surface for extended habitation. There is also water, lakes, and vegetation. They are literally turning it into a habitable colony. From there, the World Government decided to go to Mars in March of 1959.

This ultra secret space program was developed and launched largely from the Soviet Union, simply because of its natural resources and size. They could virtually do everything in secret. Upon first arriving on the moon, the World Order astronauts, with help from the Grays, reopened the ancient underground facility. We've had a working colony on the moon since 1961 according to the Andromedans.

When the Apollo astronauts landed on the moon, the World Order had been there for some time. This knowledge and technology was withheld from the lower levels of NASA and our military. NASA has been used as a blind to keep the people from truly knowing what was going on our there. The astronauts were silenced under threats and they remain so today.

I would like at this point to share some old history or events that the Andromedans say is important. I have not been able to find any information about these events, however, because the Andromedans specifically brought it up, I am going to share it.

In 1953 Earth satellites and radar showed large objects coming towards Earth. These were Gray motherships. These time-traveling spacecraft were the same craft seen near Venus in 1787, 1788, and 1789. In the year 1645 a large moon seen near Venus, was seen coming and going four times. This was a mothership from Sirius B. In November of 1844, the large craft seen illuminating part of Mars was an Orion mothership. The same craft illuminated Mercury in 1799. The same craft, which is spherical, crossed the Sun on March 26, 1859.

On the eclipse of July 29, 1878, the two large glowing bodies seen between Mercury and Venus, were Pleaidian and Andromedan motherships, moving through our part of the galaxy.

In 1783 and 1787, the large bright lights that were seen on the moon were not volcanoes. They were Pleaidian motherships the creation of a self-rule government. The first on Earth; America. In the month of February, in the year 1894, the object photographed striking a huge black object was a carrier craft from Alpha Draconis. On April 4, 1892, the craft that crossed the surface of the moon was not a large bird, it was a craft that looked like it had wings. It was a craft from Alpha Draconis. This same ship was last in this solar system on January 27, 1912.

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From link on contents of this page: Our Moon's Forbidden History
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/an...omedacom_0.htm
(Click "Chapter 1 - The Extraterrestrial Global Connection" - bottom of page)

SEE ALSO: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/es...dacom.htm#menu
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If you're shocked at the idea that the moon is hollow, you should be shocked at your own inability to directly address the facts of the situation rather than respond from ego and assumption.


1. The moon is far older than previously thought, even older than the earth.

3. If the earth and moon were created at the same time, as theory suggests, and near each other, then why has earth got far more iron and the moon very little?

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11. Unusual Metals: The moon’s crust is much harder than presumed. Remember the extreme difficulty the astronauts encountered when they tried to drill into the maria? Surprise!
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The problem was a key flaw in the drill’s design: Its threads were not carrying the cuttings to the surface. Instead, the cuttings were getting clogged in the hole, binding the drill stem. (Nevertheless, later X-ray analysis of the core showed 58 separate layers of regolith along with various pebbles and an increasing density down to the bottom of the core.) NASA fixed the problem on later flights. On Apollo 16, Charlie Duke drilled to the full eight feet in about one minute. On Apollo 17, Gene Cernan did it in just under three.
http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exp...tml?c=y&page=2

On a side note, how much of this is your own work? You have very few sources quoted and yet 99% of this is cut and pasted word for word from other sites. Not knocking the research, just thinking that credit should be given where it's due (if that is in fact the case)
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None of its my own work. Rather than write my own opinions I just gathered some information to get the ball rolling. I didn't supply sources but that's not too important. The material is all that matters. I'd have sourced it all but it didn't cross my mind. My opinion is totally solidified that planets grow, planets stars and moons are hollow. And furthermore I personally believe that our moon is a ship built by the Orions brought to our solar system, and so is the moon Mimas and so is the moon Iapetus.
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I didn't supply sources but that's not too important.
The person who wrote it might disagree! I'm not 'nit-picking' here, but it's only fair to give the original authors some credit. There has obviously been a great deal of work done by someone and you've basically posted it as 'your own'.
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The moon space station was controlled by the reptillians til 2003. when the Galactic federation took it from them...
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None of its my own work. Rather than write my own opinions I just gathered some information to get the ball rolling. I didn't supply sources but that's not too important. The material is all that matters. I'd have sourced it all but it didn't cross my mind. My opinion is totally solidified that planets grow, planets stars and moons are hollow. And furthermore I personally believe that our moon is a ship built by the Orions brought to our solar system, and so is the moon Mimas and so is the moon Iapetus.
The moon was brought here from the Andromeda galaxy. before this planet had a moon to regulate things the planet was unstable.
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The moon space station was controlled by the reptillians til 2003. when the Galactic federation took it from them...
What else do you think you know about the moon? Please share all!
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A lot of your information is not only unsourced, but also unreferenced. You say the heaviest metals are at the outer layer of the moon? If the moon is hollow and thus has a much lower mass, how do you account for its gravitational pull? indeed, if you think all planets are hollow how do you account for the strength of gravity at all?
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I wanna thank lordzoma for this thread, and ( have u found your lost love yet?) i hope so. or a new one .
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