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Old 01-12-2010, 03:03 PM   #121
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I know one thing, that Tibetan Vajrayana/Tantra stuff isn't Buddhist Dharma.

It's Shamanism and nothing else.
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:34 PM   #122
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Pro pagan da is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position.



Sowing the Seeds/Munition Garden Great find.

Dugpas are all over this planet, although they do not necessarily call themselves that, keeping the momentum of negative energy going through intent, ritual and sacrifice. They are the hidden hand, the sorcerers, the Dark Masters. Although Dugpa-ship is not exclusive to the Buddhist sect that are the Red Caps, and obviously not all Buddhists are Dugpas.

Buddhism is seen by some as a step up from other religions because of it's philosophies, which makes this religion very appealing to people who have no faith in the more obviously controlled religions.

Although I do not see it as any different from Catholicism/Christianity or any other religion set in place to control people.

There are Dugpas hidden in these organizations - followers of the Left Hand Path/Hidden Hand path. There are Dugpas in the New Age circles who are well versed in energy and its applications, mastery of the dark arts does not mean that those who practice them don't understand the importance of "the light".
Sorcerers use what is considered to be the light as a smoke screen as a "hook", once they have people hooked into whatever though pattern/belief system they want you hooked into, (by seeding ideas/thoughts for example) it isn't too difficult for them to gain control and it doesn't necessarily mean that it is "all dark" in appearance either.

Control the thoughts, control the person. Control the energy of a person/Control the person a little more. Also by the use of trauma/ritual/energy extraction/sexual energy/sexual energy extraction/alchemy through sexual ritual/binding a person/binding a person sexually/binding a person etherically/astrally - these techniques cement the intent and the direction that the sorcerer/sorcerers want the energy to go. This energy goes back to them on some level, or towards some purpose that they need the energy for.

I found this which might be of interest.



Also briefly mention the lover of Cybele in Greek mythology, the god-man or Attis Attis, who went mad by the goddess Cybele and castrated the same (remembering that the myth of OSIRIS of Egyptian mythology), this semi-god came Phrygia, Anatolia in Turkey today. In art he is represented with a Phrygian cap, and here it is noteworthy that the Phrygian cap has been for a very long time one of the symbols of the Masonic fraternity, this represented the ancient god Mithras of Iranian mythology, in Roman times pileus called him, and was distinctive of the freedmen, was used symbolically by the murderers of Julius Caesar, and during the U.S. Independence and the French Revolution, was used as a symbol of Liberty, currently appears in several coats of American nations in an ancient mosaic can see the three wise men carry in their heads, however, the use of the hat in Masonry is one of the most mysterious of the dress fittings, their use has been common among builders of antiquity, like the apron and gloves, the first for protection from the elements, and the other to cover the sharp rocks in a quarry. During a ritual, usually the official who cover their heads because it is the receptacle of the life force, the Crown Chakra is the Supreme, so what are kings crown. In ancient Rome, the Phrygians had released a hat, so depicts a Liberty in the ancient mysteries of Eleusis, the place a Phrygian cap, an initiate was told "Get this hat is a symbol more valuable than any royal crown . Just to mention one more fact about the use of the hat is that is used by Jews (Kipha cap), which is placed at the age of 13 years where he began reading the Torah, the Catholicism of the priests to use the tiara , and the bishops the bonnet, in short: The cap prevents the teacher to lose energy and keep your ability to radiate their light and knowledge. Finally to the Phrygian god Attis can also find traces of her cult in Barcelona, since recently in the year 2000 was found a relief of Attis in the ancient wall of Barcino, dated in the first half of the 1st century BC, and according to experts the cult of Cybele and Attis is present from the moment of Foundation of Barcino, by Emperor Augustus in the 1st century BC.


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Old 01-12-2010, 04:35 PM   #123
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I know one thing, that Tibetan Vajrayana/Tantra stuff isn't Buddhist Dharma.

It's Shamanism and nothing else.
But it has a basis in Buddhism although it uses ritual methods of Indian tantra and Bon. Example, the chod rite may not be directly related to the Dharma but by using it to destroy the ego and overcome negative powers a person can then carry out the application of the Dharma more effectively. The dharma tells a person about right living but it does not define methods of how to achieve results using meditation, etc

A person can develop things in many ways as long as the core remains the same. I think religion is an organic process, not something that happens but which cannot be developed into various forms to suit different temperaments.
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:18 PM   #124
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The dharma tells a person about right living but it does not define methods of how to achieve results using meditation, etc





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Old 01-12-2010, 05:21 PM   #125
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Sowing the Seeds/Munition Garden Great find.
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Old 01-12-2010, 08:51 PM   #126
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LG, exactly what is the point of the last two posts?
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:25 AM   #127
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The Vajroli Mudra. This practice is apparently one method that is used, it is known as the Thunderbolt Seal, which reminded me of this seal with the thunderbolt, snake, phrygian cap,spear of destiny etc etc.....



Here is some information on the Vajroli Mudra, practices, how it is done and what it can result in etc...



http://www.american-buddha.com/otosperm.htm
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Maithuna or Mithuna is a Sanskrit term used in Tantra most often translated as sexual union in a ritual context.


Another take on it.


However, the Black Yogis from the clan of Dagdugpa never perform the contact of the Solar and Lunar Atoms inside the organism; they always do it outside the organism.

These Black Yogis (Asura Samphata) commit the crime of ejaculating the semen (Shuhra) during the Maithuna. They do this in order to mix their semen with feminine Raja. Thus, this is how they achieve the contact of the Solar and Lunar Atoms within the same woman's Yoni.

Undoubtedly, the most difficult thing for these Red Hat Bons and Dugpas is the reabsorbing of the Seminal Liquid after having ejaculated it.

A certain terribly malignant psychic type of force exists in this reabsorbing process.

Incorrectly applied, the Vajroli Mudra (in combination with their Mental Force) allows these Red Hat Bons and Dugppas to absorb their spilled Seminal Liquor through their urethra.

During the ordinary sexual contact the Intellectual Animal spills millions of Solar Atoms of very high voltage. These are immediately replaced by billions of Satanic Atoms from the Secret Enemy, and these are collected from within the Atomic Infernos of the human being by means of the process of contraction (orgasm) of the sexual organs after the coitus.

When the semen is not spilled, then the Solar Atoms return inward and upward through Ida and Pingala. Then the Solar Atoms extraordinarily multiply in quantity and quality.

However, the spilled semen (which the Black Tantras reabsorb through their urethra by extracting it from within the vagina) in fact, has already converted itself into a frightful accumulator of Satanic Atoms.

When these types of Abnormal Satanic Atoms intend to rise up to the Golgotha of the Father (the Brain), they violently are cast down against the coccyx by the Three Akashic Breaths that work in Ida, Pingala and Shushumna.

These types of seminal malignant atoms are precipitated through Ida and Pingala. They violently struggle in order to reach the brain; however all of their efforts are useless because the Three Akashic Breaths cast them down against that region of the coccyx where a Malignant Atom has its habitat and also the power to place the Abominable Kundabuffer Organ into activity...


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I will come back later, when I can put this into English, it sounds confusing but can be put simply.

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Old 08-12-2010, 02:09 AM   #128
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What are earth-bound elementaries?

Is the Tibetan Bon religion Black Magic?

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Old 08-12-2010, 02:25 AM   #129
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What are earth-bound elementaries?
Here is a fairly good explanation, they are more or less lower astral entities bound to earth which is what I was told.

This also might help put the above post into some perspective. The use of sexual ritual apparantley helps bind these entities to people, invoking demonic possession etc during ritual.


Elementaries

"Properly, the disembodied souls of the depraved; these souls having at some time prior to death separated from themselves their divine spirits, and so lost their chance for immortality" (Theosophical Glossary, H. P. Blavatsky).



Strictly speaking, the word "elementaries" should be used as H. P. Blavatsky defines it in this quotation from her. But in modern theosophical literature the word has come to signify more particularly the phantoms or eidola of disembodied persons, these phantoms or eidola really being the kama-rupic shades, with especial application to the cases of grossly materialistic ex-humans whose evil impulses and appetites still inhering in the kama-rupic phantom draw these phantoms to physical spheres congenial to them. They are a real danger to psychical health and sanity, and literally haunt living human beings possessing tendencies akin to their own. They are soulless shells, but still filled with energies of a depraved and ignoble type.
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I am reading a book about Tibetan Bon religion at the moment. It's mainly to do with the power of thought and intent and meditation. It said in the book that in ages past, power Bon practitioners would help and king and engage in magical wars. They could heal men from afar, destroy men from afard and do all sorts of crazy things.
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:30 PM   #131
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I am reading a book about Tibetan Bon religion at the moment. It's mainly to do with the power of thought and intent and meditation. It said in the book that in ages past, power Bon practitioners would help and king and engage in magical wars. They could heal men from afar, destroy men from afard and do all sorts of crazy things.
That sounds about right, although their practices are still being used today. Using the power of thought, intention, and directing energy towards a desired outcome can be used for good or bad, heal or destroy. They are Masters of energy manipulation. What is the name of the book younger reading?
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Drops There are two types of drop in the body: WHITE drops and RED drops. These are the pure essence of sperm and blood. When the drops melt and flow through the inner channels, they give rise to an experience of bliss.




A. DEATH IS CERTAIN

1. There is no possible way to escape death. No-one ever has, not even Jesus, Buddha, etc. Of the current world population of over 5 billion people, almost none will be alive in 100 years time.

2. Life has a definite, inflexible limit and each moment brings us closer to the finality of this life. We are dying from the moment we are born.

3. Death comes in a moment and its time is unexpected. All that separates us from the next life is one breath.

Conviction: To practice the spiritual path and ripen our inner potential by cultivating positive mental qualities and abandoning disturbing mental qualities.

It is therefore essential for the practitioner to know the stages of death and the mind-body relationship behind them. The description of this is based on a presentation of the winds, or currents of energy, that serve as foundations for various levels of consciousness, and the channels in which they flow. Upon the serial collapse of the ability of these winds to serve as bases of consciousness, the internal and external events of death unfold. Through the power of meditation, the yogi makes the coarse winds dissolve into the very subtle life-bearing wind at the heart. This yoga mirrors the process that occurs at death and involves concentration on the psychic channels and the channel-centres (chakras) inside the body.



At the channel-centres there are WHITE and RED drops, upon which physical and mental health are based. The white is predominant at the top of the head and the red at the solar plexus. These drops have their origin in a WHITE and RED drop at the heart centre, and this drop is the size of a small pea and has a white top and red bottom. It is called the indestructible drop, since it lasts until death. The very subtle life-bearing wind dwells inside it and, at death, all winds ultimately dissolve into it, whereupon the clear light vision of death dawns.

The physiology of death revolves around changes in the winds, channels and drops. Psychologically, due to the fact that consciousnesses of varying grossness and subtlety depend on the winds, like a rider on a horse, their dissolving or loss of ability to serve as bases of consciousness induces radical changes in conscious experience.




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That sounds about right, although their practices are still being used today. Using the power of thought, intention, and directing energy towards a desired outcome can be used for good or bad, heal or destroy. They are Masters of energy manipulation. What is the name of the book younger reading?
But is energy manipulation BLACK MAGIC?

Here is the book



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Old 08-12-2010, 10:38 PM   #134
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Well, energy that is manipulated to harm, injure, control, confuse, mislead or kill another person/people is black magic... although not all manipulation of energy is necessarily a bad thing, it can be used to heal, improve ones own life or the life of others. Although I think it can be tricky to discern true healing energy/or find authentic healers.IMO.
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How many have we got now? There should be seven
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Fair amount are in South America.

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