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Old 15-05-2013, 06:36 AM   #1
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The poster sugarray first discovered this strange figure in one of the four official 2007 portraits of the Queen by Annie Leibovitz (from post #65 onwards here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205473.)

The implications are startling when you reflect logically on the issue, so I thought it was time it had its own thread.





















"There are dark forces operating in this country which we know nothing about."

- Queen to Paul Burrell

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Old 15-05-2013, 08:03 AM   #2
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You've posted a close up of a chandellier then you've drawn two blotchy black circles in it.

And you want us to think what? That it's an alien face?

Like I say, is something wrong with you?
ad hominem, I can't see anything but I'm not psychic, like you, so how the hell do you know she is ill for posting that?

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Old 15-05-2013, 08:19 AM   #3
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ad hominem, I can't see anything but I'm not psychic, like you, so how the hell do you know she is ill for posting that?

I'm sick of this forum being used as a dumping ground for worthless rubbish.

Next time people call you a kook or a weirdo 'conspiracy theorist' because you believe 9-11 was an inside job you can thank people like the OP who discredit the whole area with crazy looney talk.



Some of this stuff is actually trolls and cointel-pro agents at work by the way..... It's the turd in the punch-bowl approach.

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Old 15-05-2013, 08:24 AM   #4
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The poster sugarray first discovered this strange figure in one of the four official 2007 portraits of the Queen by Annie Liebovitz (from post #65 onwards here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205473.)

The implications are startling when you reflect logically on the issue, so I thought it was time it had its own thread.





"There are dark forces operating in this country which we know nothing about."

- Queen to Paul Burrell

creepy. yet blatantly in the background.


and if the quote about what the queen said to burrel is true, then.......

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Old 15-05-2013, 08:28 AM   #5
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creepy. yet blatantly in the background.


and if the quote about what the queen said to burrel is true, then.......

What? What are you seeing?


There's a bloke with the Queen while she's having her photo taken.

Either an assistant to the photographer or an assistant to the queen.

And there's a chandelier which obscures the man's head but someone has doodled two black splodges onto so they look like eyes.

That's what I can see because that's what's there.


This is idiotic and embarrassing.

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Old 15-05-2013, 08:33 AM   #6
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This is idiotic and embarrassing.
Yet you find it profoundly disturbing.


Annie Leibovitz

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Old 15-05-2013, 08:57 AM   #7
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Yet you find it profoundly disturbing.


Annie Liebovitz

No, I don't find it disturbing, I find it idiotic and embarrassing.

It's a chandelier. Not an alien.

Are you paid to post this rubbish here?
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Old 15-05-2013, 09:12 AM   #8
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Does look like a reptilian head, just sayin lol
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Old 15-05-2013, 09:21 AM   #9
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No, I don't find it disturbing, I find it idiotic and embarrassing.

It's a chandelier. Not an alien.

Are you paid to post this rubbish here?
Quit your reflexive mithering, and try thinking a little before you speak.

It should be a no-brainer to anyone that an official royal portrait like this would be carefully and meticulously composed and then visually scrutinised with a fine-tooth comb before being approved, which renders the argument that the figure's presence is merely an accidental reflection absolutely ridiculous.

But for the benefit of the few with their heads so firmly up their own asses that they can't appreciate this simple reality, here's some quotes to ponder...

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'For her portraits, Leibovitz—who viewed her photographic sessions as collaborations—typically spent days observing her subjects’ daily lives and worked to make her portraits of them unique and witty, each a technically exquisite distillation. Her commercial images were dramatic and staged rather than casual.'

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...nnie-Leibovitz
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'Leibovitz’s perfectionism in her work (budgets were exploded, and no expense was spared)...'

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...nnie-Leibovitz
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'Obsession With Perfectionism

Lighting: dramatic. Scene: Perfectly composed. Celebrity: The perfect expression. Post-production: incredibly refined with hours of touching up and digital painting. One thing is sure, Leibovitz is a perfectionist. ”I’m more interested in being good than being famous.” All her photographs triumph in this area, and it is her ability to refine past a line most others can’t even see which makes her such a strong photographer. Her unwavering consistency in their area is one of the things which gained her such a strong fan following.'
http://blog.latitu.de/people-brands-annie-leibovitz/
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'The first woman ever to have her work exhibited at the National Portrait Gallery in Washington, D.C., Leibovitz is “a perfectionist,” says Graydon Carter, editor-in-chief of Vanity Fair. “And she’s the greatest portrait photographer in the world.”
http://www.glamour.com/inspired/wome...nnie-leibovitz
et al.

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the picture is open to discussion. it could simply mean the queen is either under threat, or is backed up...


i'm thinking it's a bit of both....


just my opinion.
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Old 15-05-2013, 09:29 AM   #11
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Does look like a reptilian head, just sayin lol
Haha, yep, it's like Gorn threw on a suit.



Lucky I decided not to post the above comparison in the OP or edelwhatever would have blown a bloodtube.
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Old 15-05-2013, 09:39 AM   #12
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Lucky I decided not to post the above comparison in the OP or edelwhatever would have blown a bloodtube.
Worthless.
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Old 15-05-2013, 09:40 AM   #13
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the picture is open to discussion. it could simply mean the queen is either under threat, or is backed up...


i'm thinking it's a bit of both....


just my opinion.
I agree.

And to clarify: I don't think this is some real 'creature' that showed up for Annie Leibovitz's photoshoot at Windsor Castle - it's a carefully constructed illusion intended to depict and symbolise a bizarre and menacing figure watching over the Queen (who is glancing pensively over her shoulder to denote awareness of its presence).

I'm wondering whether this illusion might have been created in post-production and the reflection in the mirror added digitally.

The below portrait from the same Leibovitz shoot is a composite; the Queen was photographed indoors and interposed on the scenery.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meTECfGfoMI


The guy in the dark suit is not an alien.

Mystery solved and more Size of Light bullshit has been put to bed.
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Old 15-05-2013, 09:55 AM   #15
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The guy in the dark suit is not an alien.

Mystery solved and more Size of Light bullshit has been put to bed.
You're just not comprehending any of this properly, are you?

I've already watched that clip multiple times.

What do you think it shows that proves that the portrait in question wasn't deliberately composed?

I'll be very interested to read your explanation on how a composed photograph wasn't composed.

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Old 15-05-2013, 11:34 AM   #16
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At first all I could see is (above where you drew an outline of a head) a cartoon cat smoking a fag.
but after staring at it for a while I noticed the black suit.

If you look how high the mirror is on the wall, a person would have to be really tall to be seen in the reflection.
Is it possible that it could be reflecting another picture on the rear wall?

The face you're seeing does look like it's just part of the chandelier.

Oh, as a suggestion could you not lighten the 'suit area' up to get a clearer look?

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Old 15-05-2013, 12:42 PM   #17
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At first all I could see is (above where you drew an outline of a head) a cartoon cat smoking a fag.
but after staring at it for a while I noticed the black suit.

If you look how high the mirror is on the wall, a person would have to be really tall to be seen in the reflection.
Is it possible that it could be reflecting another picture on the rear wall?

The face you're seeing does look like it's just part of the chandelier.

Oh, as a suggestion could you not lighten the 'suit area' up to get a clearer look?
If anyone wants to challenge the accuracy of anything below, I can show my workings in more detail later on.

This photo shows the reverse wall, where the figure seen in the mirror would have been standing....



Below, I've reversed the figure and inset him in the yellow panel on the right, to provide a side by side comparison...



The horizontal red line in the image below distinguishes the real chandelier (upper) from the infinite reflection (lower)
of the same chandelier bouncing back and forth between the two mirrors at opposite ends of the room...



This can be established by matching the portrait with a stillframe from the documentary covering the photoshoot
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meTECfGfoMI ), which reveals there is only one chandelier hanging from
the ceiling between the Queen and the mirror behind her...



Therefore, for the chandelier to be creating the illusion of a 'head' manifesting directly above an empty coat
- inexplicably but most certainly strategically-placed between the mirrored mantelpiece and the couch...



...that chandelier can only be a reflection in the mirror, behind the coat;
it's not actually present in the room and draping down in front of it.



Yet the 'head' atop the coat is plainly overlapping it...



How can this be?

Conclusion: It has to be a digitally-altered figure, or a real figure - with a real and bizarre-looking head - intentionally positioned where it is so that it appears reflected in the mirror in the photograph.

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Old 15-05-2013, 01:01 PM   #18
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Came across this on Wiki regarding the painter;

"Leibovitz was the last person to professionally photograph Lennon—he was shot and killed..."

There's your answer....

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Haha , Threads like this is why i love this forum.

But threads like this also show.







That we have No Hope.

Did you know that the Queens stables are full of Unicorns ?
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Old 15-05-2013, 01:15 PM   #20
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Conclusion: It has to be a digitally-altered figure, or a real figure - with a real and bizarre-looking head - intentionally positioned to appear in the way that in does in the final image.
From the narration of the documentary ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhjEQpEGvaQ )

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"Annie Liebovitz and her 11 assistants have spent three weeks preparing for the half hour shoot."
Leibovitz is seen taking various preparatory shots in rooms around the palace, and is clearly playing around with the idea of using reflected figures for the portraits as evidenced at 2:11 below...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhjEQpEGvaQ

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