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Old 30-09-2010, 02:30 PM   #41
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I't s not anti-Semitic to criticise Israel just as it's not Islamophobic to bash Saudi Arabia.
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Old 30-09-2010, 02:32 PM   #42
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Aw, it's like Hitler said:
"Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke!"
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Old 30-09-2010, 02:45 PM   #43
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I don't... just you!
that's what they all say....
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Old 30-09-2010, 06:07 PM   #44
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Jewish Groups Angered By Rappers' New Start

By JON PARELES
Published: August 12, 1989

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Jewish groups responded angrily yesterday to the announcement by the rap group Public Enemy that it was rehiring Richard (Professor Griff) Griffin.

Mr. Griffin was the group's ''minister of information'' when he told an interviewer for The Washington Times in June that ''Jews are wicked'' and responsible for ''the majority of wickedness that goes on across the globe.'' Chuck D. Ridenhour, Public Enemy's songwriter and main rapper, fired Mr. Griffin publicly on June 21, but announced on Wednesday that he had been rehired as the group's liaison to the black community and would work with youth programs but would no longer speak to the press.

Abraham H. Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League of the B'nai Brith, released a statement saying, ''By firing and rehiring Professor Griff, the rap group Public Enemy has engaged in a repugnant charade characterized by cynicism and disdain for the public. A leopard doesn't change its spots, and exposing America's youth to Griff's unadulterated anti-Semitism can only exacerbate already existing tensions in our society.'' 'His Beef Was With Israel'

Mr. Ridenhour said: ''My response is, 'What public?' And what have those organizations done for the black community? Griff is not anti-Semitic: he hangs out with Falasha Jews from Ethiopia damn near every other month. His beef was with Israel and its involvement in South Africa, which hurts his people, black people. But you don't blame Jews for Israel. So I made him apologize, and he was demoted. Now he's speaking to his own people instead of the world.

''I corrected Griff and he apologized to me and said where he was wrong, and to me that's the extent of it. I fired him and rehired him for another position. Drop it.''

Although the group's record company, Def Jam, had announced that Public Enemy was disbanding, Public Enemy played tour dates this month in the Middle West, with Mr. Griffin standing on stage. The group announced on Wednesday that it was ''back in action.''

Rabbi Abraham Cooper of the Simon Wiesenthal Foundation in Los Angeles, which monitors anti-Semitic activity and neo-Nazi groups, had spoken with Mr. Ridenhour in June after the controversy began. 'An Unreviled Bigot'

''I do not believe he holds the same views as Griff,'' Mr. Cooper said in a telephone interview. ''But the issue is that you have an unreviled bigot who is not going to pay the price. Imagine if there was a country-music group in which one of the members was an open member of the Ku Klux Klan, repeating all the slanders against blacks, Jews and Vietnamese boat people. How long would he last in the music community?

''No one can argue that anyone suffers more from racism than the black community,'' Mr. Cooper added. ''When individuals in the black community cannot or will not speak out against bigotry when it emanates from one of their own, they are actually helping the forces of racism in America. And when the other people in the music industry keep silence, it implies a racist attitude they have toward blacks. If they truly believe in equality and want to fight racism, they have to set a single standard.''

Mr. Ridenhour said, ''I think all this is a witch hunt. Griff was wrong by not being accurate and not being clear, and that's why apologies were made. I rehired him for a different position. The No. 1 question should be, how do we move forward?'

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Analysis: No point fretting - some of the best acts had awful opinions

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Old 30-09-2010, 06:22 PM   #45
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Sure even despite what I just posted on this thread?

Do you have reading difficulties, are you too bone idle to read 2 pages of thread or are you just deliberately misrepresenting people at every opportunity like some lying spin doctor?

what do you expect, Grem works for the daily mail!

says it all realy!
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Old 30-09-2010, 07:12 PM   #46
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that's what they all say....
While you are on your crusade to destroy everybody that isn't you?
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Old 30-09-2010, 07:39 PM   #47
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what do you expect, Grem works for the daily mail!

says it all realy!
reports the truth better than any other paper.

Unlike you who work for the guardian newspaper who reports only his views on life.
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Old 30-09-2010, 07:47 PM   #48
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reports the truth better than any other paper.


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Old 30-09-2010, 07:54 PM   #49
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If only Pink Floyd could do one last album...
one big message could be spread reaching more than ever..


Fuck if TPTB caught wind of it they would have them all killed off, probably make some BS story that they all fell out again but this time they all shot the fuck out of each other... LOL


Oh, if there was a league table of musicians of knew the score then Waters would be top 5 deffo. His lyrics are about as deep as they come.

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Old 30-09-2010, 08:02 PM   #50
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if it wasn't for the nips
being so good at building ships
the yards would still be open on the clyde

and it can't be much fun for them
beneath the rising sun
with all their kids committing suicide

-The Post War Dream

Don't think you can accuse Roger of being PC..
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Old 30-09-2010, 09:01 PM   #51
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oioioi and mikey mikey will be there with their placards in protest i'm sure
I don't confuse religions with skin pigmentations.

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Old 30-09-2010, 09:06 PM   #52
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yep no doubt...
wind them up and point them in the direction..
"racist scum...racist scum...scum racist...racist scum..scum..."
See above.
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Old 30-09-2010, 09:38 PM   #54
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Old 30-09-2010, 09:46 PM   #55
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cool pic
See that pic?
That's the Daily Mail talking out of its arse!
Judging...
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Old 30-09-2010, 10:32 PM   #57
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But Waters' partner Laurie Durning is adamant the star did not mean to offend anyone with the backdrop.

She tells New York Post gossip column Page Six, "Since this tour started on Sept. 15, we've had dozens and dozens of reviews and over 120,000 audience members and I've never heard anyone interpret the show in the way this guy Foxman has

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf...r-show_1168613
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But Waters' partner Laurie Durning is adamant the star did not mean to offend anyone with the backdrop.

She tells New York Post gossip column Page Six, "Since this tour started on Sept. 15, we've had dozens and dozens of reviews and over 120,000 audience members and I've never heard anyone interpret the show in the way this guy Foxman has

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Certainly becoming a case of;
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Waters could just claim he was using ancient symbology..
...bit of controversy never harmed a good tour rating.
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Old 30-09-2010, 11:28 PM   #59
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Fuck if TPTB caught wind of it they would have them all killed off, probably make some BS story that they all fell out again but this time they all shot the fuck out of each other... LOL


Oh, if there was a league table of musicians of knew the score then Waters would be top 5 deffo. His lyrics are about as deep as they come.
They have always done it but in a very subtle way.
Waters is one of the finest wordsmiths in the business...
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Old 30-09-2010, 11:30 PM   #60
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hey, wall.
"we dont need no education"

that part of song, was it parody, or they serious?

bc, THEY attended uni

It has the opposite meaning.
It is directed at how and what we are taught, rather than being taught.
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