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Old 09-08-2017, 10:23 AM   #1
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I left school in 1989 at the age of 16 with grades in Art and Design and English then I went to college to do a HND course in Interior Design.

I put in all my effort, commitment and time in that course and graduated a few years later with a HND in interior design. However, this has proved the biggest waste of time and money because it got me nowhere.

I went into a deep depression and low self esteem partly due to applying non stop for jobs for years in that line of work and getting told either the post is taken or I have been unsuccessful even though I managed to get a couple of interior design job interviews. It is probably partly the reason also that I am suffering anxiety and low self esteem.

The most ridiculous thing is that my brother who was rarely at school and left school with nothing and has no education to his name now has his own business and is very wealthy and successful yet here is me with an education, degrees and diplomas and I am living in a run down council flat on ESA and DLA due to severe anxiety and depression.

At the end of the day this has made me feel that higher education and college is one big farce. I tried starting my own business but got nowhere do to lack of support.
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You need to take up a gentle hobby, like fishing.

Or bowling.

you could then talk to the groundsman, and other bowlers, fishermen, and see if there are any jobs gowing, cutting the grass or something?

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I've no interest in bowling. Fishing maybe. My interests are in art and design, music production, video production and painting.
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I've no interest in bowling. Fishing maybe. My interests are in art and design, music production, video production and painting.
Couldn't you channel all this into some sort of outlet???
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What business does your bro do, couldn't you get a job with him?

If you're feeling fed up then the best thing you can do is get out and mix with people, find an interest.

Joining a bowling club will get you interacting with lots of folks
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Couldn't you channel all this into some sort of outlet???
What do you mean by me channel all,this into some sort of outlet?

It's kind of hard to get motivated due to the anxiety and depression I have. The point I am making is that I been to college and graduated yet got nothing out of it yet there are people who have never went to college and fooled around and yet end up with successful careers. Is it just pot luck?
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What business does your bro do, couldn't you get a job with him?

If you're feeling fed up then the best thing you can do is get out and mix with people, find an interest.

Joining a bowling club will get you interacting with lots of folks
I am not the best at mixing with other people as I am very quiet, keep myself to myself and a bit shy. Also I have met so called friends in the past who were basically users and took advantage out of me so zimfind it hard trusting other people due to that. The title to my thread is a bit misleading as I am not feeling fed up. I just find it a bit hurtful how I had an education, went to college and graduated yet it got me nowhere in life.
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Old 17-08-2017, 12:29 AM   #8
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Have you tried nofap? I was skeptical but it completely changed my anxiety levels.
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I am not the best at mixing with other people as I am very quiet, keep myself to myself and a bit shy. Also I have met so called friends in the past who were basically users and took advantage out of me so zimfind it hard trusting other people due to that. The title to my thread is a bit misleading as I am not feeling fed up. I just find it a bit hurtful how I had an education, went to college and graduated yet it got me nowhere in life.

I say this with the best of intent... You need to shift your thinking out of victim mode.
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The original reason I wrote this post was to give my opinion of how useless higher education is and to read like minded replies but it somehow has turned into a post advising me to mix to socialise and how to calm my anxiety which is a million miles away from what I was trying to write.

I appreciate the advise about socialising and anxiety but I was actually talking about what a waste of time IMO college is when someone in my family who has never had an education is now a successful businessman.
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Old 18-08-2017, 03:18 PM   #11
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the whole education system is a waste of time (apart from to get young students into debt), i too made it to college and have nothing to show for it either.

it's going to be much harder in the future when machines will take over the hard labour.
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1. What steps have you taken to put your qualification to use?
2. Have you got a portfolio that you can show to prospective employers?
3. Have you tried an internship with a design company? In that business, like many others, networking is the key.
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When was the last time you had a blood test for vitamin D? Was it in normal range?
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Interior design you made a bad choice that's all how many rich celebs do you know who you could drop a card of to have them pay you to show them how to spend there money?

1989 would of been a great decade for you to go into computing industry you be making a bomb now!

Am afraid it's just manual blood & sweat labouring for you now like the rest of us or choose to wine it out on the dole but trust me it's not worth it!

Try Asda 16hrs week part time get you out off the rut & into the action might start your ideas rolling & new leads?
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Old 18-08-2017, 06:49 PM   #15
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What do you mean by me channel all,this into some sort of outlet?

It's kind of hard to get motivated due to the anxiety and depression I have. The point I am making is that I been to college and graduated yet got nothing out of it yet there are people who have never went to college and fooled around and yet end up with successful careers. Is it just pot luck?
Dont see it as others fannying around while you toil, see it as their course and your course!

You are not your brother, but he can give good advice on setting up your own business in your field. Educate us here. With your qualifications, just what is it that you ARE trained to do?
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I left school in 1989 at the age of 16 with grades in Art and Design and English then I went to college to do a HND course in Interior Design.

I put in all my effort, commitment and time in that course and graduated a few years later with a HND in interior design. However, this has proved the biggest waste of time and money because it got me nowhere.

I went into a deep depression and low self esteem partly due to applying non stop for jobs for years in that line of work and getting told either the post is taken or I have been unsuccessful even though I managed to get a couple of interior design job interviews. It is probably partly the reason also that I am suffering anxiety and low self esteem.

The most ridiculous thing is that my brother who was rarely at school and left school with nothing and has no education to his name now has his own business and is very wealthy and successful yet here is me with an education, degrees and diplomas and I am living in a run down council flat on ESA and DLA due to severe anxiety and depression.

At the end of the day this has made me feel that higher education and college is one big farce. I tried starting my own business but got nowhere do to lack of support.
Yes, it's a farce. But Art and Design, English, Interior Design???

Yeah... your answer is right there in front of your eyes... terrible choices...

It's not ridiculous, well maybe to you it is, but your brother obviously has a skill/knowledge that's in demand.
Simple as that and you don't need fancy diplomas and degrees for that.
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The original reason I wrote this post was to give my opinion of how useless higher education is and to read like minded replies but it somehow has turned into a post advising me to mix to socialise and how to calm my anxiety which is a million miles away from what I was trying to write.

I appreciate the advise about socialising and anxiety but I was actually talking about what a waste of time IMO college is when someone in my family who has never had an education is now a successful businessman.
Sorry, I missed this post!

Yup, it sometimes take a smack on the bonce to see the truth!

I am actively keeping my 17 yr son from even attempting to go to uni! It is NOT for all folk.

Was it that when you were going through the sometimes drudgery of learning that you saw your bro as the one that mum and dad (or even you?) were, or were going to be, disappointed with? Cos I was the bro in that scenario here! But I landed on my feet, as did your bro.
But trust me when I say that he too might not have been where he is but for luck, the stars or fate etc etc!

Yes. Uni is not worth it for all the reasons Icke and others suggest.
College is just catching up on the shit schooling one had to endure and...
School is a prison and mind fuck for the child.
Nursery is just a place to learn to march while mum gets back to work!

I generalise of course! You might have had a private education! Still indoctrination, but for a different class of useful idiot (sorry). Also, you might have really shit hot at school! My girl was, and is doing well in uni. But I am saving to pay off her fees so she does not have that worry...but dont tell her. She might stop being brill and rest on her laurels!

Home school all the way with your children. School is SHIT.
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I hated the whole education system! I was talked into going onto higher education ,,,,, did it and hated it.

Stayed for a couple of months then left - I saw all sorts of 'advisers' who tried to talk me out of it! But ,, it was futile ,, I was off ,,, zooooooom ,, asap ,, best thing I did.

I see the education system as a training prison ,, oops ,, I mean centre to condition future slaves. So they know their place in society and do what they are told and when they can and can't do it.

Can people be happy in jobs which just make the filthy rich even filthy richer? I'm not implying they all can't.

Yes we all have to work! Of course, mobile phones aren't cheap!

It's OK if mum and dad are rich I guess!

Or ,, if you can use your talent for creativity to make $$$$$$$$$ ,,
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When was the last time you had a blood test for vitamin D? Was it in normal range?
That's a good point els ,, made me think. Vitamins and diet and minerals and toxic rubbish does play a role in how we feel and function.
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The original reason I wrote this post was to give my opinion of how useless higher education is and to read like minded replies but it somehow has turned into a post advising me to mix to socialise and how to calm my anxiety which is a million miles away from what I was trying to write.

I appreciate the advise about socialising and anxiety but I was actually talking about what a waste of time IMO college is when someone in my family who has never had an education is now a successful businessman.
What most people have picked up on is that your success so far compared to your brother is mostly down to your different levels of confidence. If college was the problem, then everyone that ever went to college would be on the dole etc. If you get your health, mental and physical sorted, you'll find you can be just as successful as anyone else.
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