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Old 26-10-2015, 08:49 PM   #1
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Default Heat your home for far less with pots & candles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WEGlQ4xBa8

Here is the principle: a container, like a 2-inch-tall bread tin, has tealight candles in the center. An upside-down pot rests on the container over the candles. A larger upside-down flower pot rests over the first container. This pot has a hole in its bottom.

The inner pot acts like a furnace, storing the hot air above the candles and it will get too hot to touch. Hot air escapes underneath it which then rises inside the outer pot. All that's needed are enough candles and a part of the room you don't normally go to. You could even build a shelf for it or get a small table. Have a container of water nearby just in case.

In my 11x10-foot room I tried 3 and 4 candles & that seems enough for most winter days.

Most tealights last 4 hours. In the UK the cheapest place to get them is the Ikea.com Web site.

I've more than halved my fuel cost.

(Some people are concerned about the toxic fumes from candles. Why not make you own beeswax tealight candles? Use one alongside the standard tealights & it will destroy its toxins (and dust) through the production of negative ions. Get filtered wax, which means impurities have been removed. A sturdier wick is needed than those used for standard paraffin candles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H80k83xJ28E )

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Old 27-10-2015, 01:08 AM   #2
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Oh my god ,winter is coming again for the poor Brits ...

Break out the candles and flowerpots!

This was covered here before.... I made some brilliantly witty comments...

Anyone remember which thread?
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Old 27-10-2015, 01:26 AM   #3
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Oh my god ,winter is coming again for the poor Brits ...

Break out the candles and flowerpots!

This was covered here before.... I made some brilliantly witty comments...

Anyone remember which thread?
Wasn't anything to do with Forkhandles ?

This has been covered a few times on here...verdict fire hazard, dangerous fumes, burn risk, hassle and possibly a 250 watt oil filled radiator would be just as cheap (much safer)..depending on how much you are paying for the tea lights (est 40 watt output)

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthrea...hlight=candles
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Old 27-10-2015, 03:41 AM   #4
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Wasn't anything to do with Forkhandles ?

This has been covered a few times on here...verdict fire hazard, dangerous fumes, burn risk, hassle and possibly a 250 watt oil filled radiator would be just as cheap (much safer)..depending on how much you are paying for the tea lights (est 40 watt output)

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthrea...hlight=candles
I found the thread I was thinking of ...http://forum.davidicke.com/showthrea...post1062290912

This post by oz made me chuckle ....



OH MY GOD!!!

Is that the level the Great British people have descended to ?

Trying to keep warm with candles!!!

Balancing flower pots on top of candles to keep warm!!!

I'm trying hard to hold back the tears.... weren't we supposed to be holidaying on the moon by the year 2000? what happened to the dreams?

This video has 6million views!!! Is this how the average family warms their house.... get a grip people ...rise up and kill the oppressors.
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Old 27-10-2015, 11:11 AM   #5
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6 million views.
That's amazing. My candle is on as we speak.
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Old 27-10-2015, 07:44 PM   #6
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Use candles from a fridge to get a longer burn time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfQ3e1is4F4
shows a way of directing the heat to the middle of the room, away from the ceiling. You might be able to improvise using a 2-litre plastic bottle (stick some aluminium-foil balls to the top as it'll get very hot). Or you could get a 140mm PC case fan blowing across the top which will shift more air than the 80mm fan he's using. You need one of these aimed at your PC in the summer anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQF9HrtG8O8
shows how to connect a PC case fan to a battery. Or connect one to a USB port https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKMoQ1vDiAI

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Old 27-10-2015, 08:37 PM   #7
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I like this design.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJvngBkzcEs

A bit of doom here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnna1PAakV4

Probably safer to place on a metal tray like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l4jg_FJ5Yc

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Old 28-10-2015, 06:55 AM   #8
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Use candles from a fridge to get a longer burn time.
Sure , but the flame will be smaller , and so will the heat output.

Basically the heat you get from a kilo of wax, and a kilo/liter of paraffin oil will be approximately the same so it's whatever is cheapest , wax will cost more, but it's convenient to burn, doesn't smell
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bees wax is expensive. It's double the price.
I'd say, alternative is a vegetable oil heater. i.e. floating wick over a bowl which is filled with water and oil on top of it. You can visit your nearest chip shop and ask if they could give you used oil. But beware, there are companies collecting those already for bio-fuel. One man's rubbish is anothers gold.

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Old 28-10-2015, 08:58 AM   #10
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I found the thread I was thinking of ...http://forum.davidicke.com/showthrea...post1062290912

This post by oz made me chuckle ....



OH MY GOD!!!

Is that the level the Great British people have descended to ?

Trying to keep warm with candles!!!

Balancing flower pots on top of candles to keep warm!!!

I'm trying hard to hold back the tears.... weren't we supposed to be holidaying on the moon by the year 2000? what happened to the dreams?

This video has 6million views!!! Is this how the average family warms their house.... get a grip people ...rise up and kill the oppressors.
Rise up? You legged it half way across the globe to escape. Coward much!

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Old 28-10-2015, 09:25 AM   #11
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Rise up?

Well it depends whether he was holding back the tears of laughter or sorrow.
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Old 28-10-2015, 09:38 AM   #12
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Rise up?

Well it depends whether he was holding back the tears of laughter or sorrow.
A mixture of both....

As for the accusation of cowardice ... I have an instinct to remove myself from danger....

I suspect many would join me...

1 ...if they were adventurous , and courageous enough to leave their friends/family and home town and jump into an unknown country ...

2 ...they had the finances to do so

3 ... they actually believed the threat from the NWO was real...
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Old 28-10-2015, 10:33 AM   #13
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Elshaper, how long do those floating water candles last? Could it last 4 hours?

I've seen a video for them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uxw5w8QH54

By the way, I agree with your forum signature.

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Elshaper, how long do those floating water candles last? I've seen a video for them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uxw5w8QH54
It will last indefinitely. You just keep topping up veggie oil. You don't need to add stones, she added that for esthetic purpose. If you buy lamp oil, it will cost you but used veg oil from a cafe/chip shop will cost you zero. You need to experiment with wicks which is the tricky part.
You can buy them on ebay. I've used those with veg oil and it burns ok. It won't smell of food as long as the flame is burning correctly. I don't even bother with water. Just fill a vessel with oil. Cake tin will work but make sure it is placed off tabletop. It might damage the surface with heat, depending on what kind of tabletop you have. Trial and error, be watchful at first.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_fr...wicks&_sacat=0

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True in many cases.

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A mixture of both....

As for the accusation of cowardice ... I have an instinct to remove myself from danger....

I suspect many would join me...

1 ...if they were adventurous , and courageous enough to leave their friends/family and home town and jump into an unknown country ...

2 ...they had the finances to do so

3 ... they actually believed the threat from the NWO was real...
Think it was a joke, oz - wouldn't have 'liked' it, otherwise! Really wouldn't want to live anywhere else, though. Despite the rain and cold and horrible politicians.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WEGlQ4xBa8

Here is the principle: a container, like a 2-inch-tall bread tin, has tealight candles in the center. An upside-down pot rests on the container over the candles. A larger upside-down flower pot rests over the first container. This pot has a hole in its bottom.

The inner pot acts like a furnace, storing the hot air above the candles and it will get too hot to touch. Hot air escapes underneath it which then rises inside the outer pot. All that's needed are enough candles and a part of the room you don't normally go to. You could even build a shelf for it or get a small table. Have a container of water nearby just in case.

In my 11x10-foot room I tried 3 and 4 candles & that seems enough for most winter days.

Most tealights last 4 hours. In the UK the cheapest place to get them is the Ikea.com Web site.

I've more than halved my fuel cost.

(Some people are concerned about the toxic fumes from candles. Why not make you own beeswax tealight candles? Use one alongside the standard tealights & it will destroy its toxins (and dust) through the production of negative ions. Get filtered wax, which means impurities have been removed. A sturdier wick is needed than those used for standard paraffin candles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H80k83xJ28E )

I tried doing something like this.... two clay pots, tealights....but it didn't really provide much warmth. I'm willing to give it another try in time.
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This might be helpful:

https://www.quora.com/How-much-energ...candle-produce

Oil filled heater would be my choice, taking into account the cost of actually getting the candles, travel/delivery, and convenience ie on/off -v- lighting
all the candles, blowing them out and room taken up by the heater -v- the room taken by the candles etc.

FYI I use a small oil filled greenhouse heater in the small wooden structure that houses my rainwater collection barrels.
It just keeps the water from freezing in the pipe that delivers water to the house, as well as the barrels.
IIRC it is 750 watts max. The 'watershed' (pun in there somewhere) is approx 10 feet long by 3 feet wide by 4 feet high, containing three 210 litre barrels.
Worked nicely for the last 7 winters.
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This might be helpful:
....taking into account the cost of actually getting the candles, travel/delivery, and convenience ie on/off -v- lighting
all the candles, blowing them out ....in the small wooden structure that houses my rainwater collection barrels.
It just keeps the water from freezing in the pipe that delivers water to the house, as well as the barrels.
This tread must be the funniest/saddest on the whole forum!

This is life in the 21st century in the UK and Europe, and no one thinks it's amiss, the elite have stolen all the wealth .... and we keep ourselves and the water pipes from freezing with candles!

Wait till agenda 21 comes in , you won't be allowed candles then , they give off CO2 , fires have already been outlawed ...

But I'm ahead of the curve, the future is stuffing old newspapers inside your clothes like those who sleep rough do , very insulating ... forget about keeping a room warm, that's for the wealthy ... just your body.

What do our US members think of all this, your power plants are being closed at a terrific rate.. Agenda 21 is heading your way too.

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Yeah, we won't be laughing at you when Thailand floods.

If we are not allowed candles then, we will pretend we are religious and need candles for prayers. We are a creative bunch.
You need to keep up, agenda21 is passe. It's now 2030.
Watch Hunger Game as well. That's what it is.

I think US is even worse. We are fortunate in the UK.

ETA: You posted that super post in the other thread so I forgive you for laughing about us oz.

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If we are not allowed candles then, we will pretend we are religious and need candles for prayers.
By then prayers will be outlawed ...only prostrating to lucifer

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You posted that super post in the other thread so I forgive you for laughing about us oz.
I wouldn't wan't you to think I'm laughing at anyone... when I lived in London , I used to hang out with squatters, drove a battered old car, just to fit in with people on my wavelength... so I get the candle thing, it's the type of game I might play.. but part of me would see the ridiculousness of it, and be chuckling at myself...
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