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Old 19-04-2013, 09:03 PM   #81
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Thanks for the support porridge
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Old 19-04-2013, 09:03 PM   #82
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A few months have past since I originally posted the moneyweek.com link and there has been some added info and good input to this recent selection of posts.

One thing that is interesting me is the latest stats on pm's, I just can't figure it out. Such a huge global price drop in recent weeks, even in Dubai... (not to mention Bitcoin), yet demand is higher – solid supplies of pm's have seemingly diminished and not available?

Have the Rothschild's et al actually succeeded and bought it all up?
you are right about physical,
Since a lot of paper trading firms have told customers they will not recieve the physical but the currency equivalent people are cashing out and stacking.

The paper PM market is oversold.
THE PHYSICAL IS NOT THERE.

also since the drop in spot there have been queues of people buying what they can.
The genie is out the bottle hence the BBC "everybody running away from gold" propaganda.

"they" want your money in the bank so it can be garnished at a later date.
"they" want your pension tied up in some shadowy untouchable account to be garnished at a later date,
Fuck them.
They need us to survive like a parasite.
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Old 19-04-2013, 09:16 PM   #83
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sounds romantic and just..

But the reality is far grimmer imho..

we have a fabric of society who rely upon us for their very survival, they are the infirm and elderly
A society should be judged how they care for their needy, not by how advanced a very small percentage have of elitism.

It would be the most vulnerable who suffer, those with money will simply board a plane or an Ocean liner away..martial law will see to it.

We must adapt the system and incorporate change into them mechanism, it is no mean feat, but its not impossible if the will of the country desired it.

we have some excellent brains on this forum alone..imagine if it was being discussed openly in public?

the collective intelligence would furnish us with all the answers if it had accurate reliable information.


we are literally stuck in the program..
It controls change so we stay the same

You are correct,

But are not the vulnerable already being cast aside,

when collapse happens the vulnerable will still be left to it.

It's not if but when.

I just view it as the sooner the better.

Thanks for your insight on the subject, very informative for me to hear other perspectives.

I made the decision a while ago to prep and stack for my kids,
can't save everybody.
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Old 19-04-2013, 10:55 PM   #84
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You are correct,

But are not the vulnerable already being cast aside,
Yes I agree fully..
This is why we must try and change it
Restore balance before its too late.

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when collapse happens the vulnerable will still be left to it.
Yes, they will, but human nature in times of crisis has a way of manifesting itself..
people come out of their shells and take control of situations, and work as a team n such like to help the vulnerable
But lots wouldn't make it


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It's not if but when.
I hope we could avert it..
But you could be right
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I just view it as the sooner the better.
I think if the shit hits the fan properly, we will all be reminiscing these days as good days..
as it will be dark times indeed.

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Thanks for your insight on the subject, very informative for me to hear other perspectives.
Ditto.
I have enjoyed conversing with you

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I made the decision a while ago to prep and stack for my kids,
can't save everybody.
Well that makes you a proper loving father..
I hope you make it through unscathed with your family if it does collapse
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Old 20-04-2013, 01:42 AM   #85
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"they" want your money in the bank so it can be garnished at a later date.
"they" want your pension tied up in some shadowy untouchable account to be garnished at a later date,
Fuck them.
They need us to survive like a parasite.
And they want your money in the stock market so they can short sell and steal it.
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Old 20-04-2013, 09:20 AM   #86
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And they want your money in the stock market so they can short sell and steal it.
yes
It would seem there is an all out offensive to diminish the money stocks globally, to increase economic pressure to motivate political pressure..

And the sheople fall for it every time this happens
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Old 23-03-2014, 07:50 PM   #87
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Was wondering why the sole blame for the crisis was being put on the 'welfare state'...not the needless wars, interest on money etc...bank bailouts etc

Cheery read though 1st thing...that's set me up lovely for a day of positive living I can tell you!
I was wondering that too. The City's wars and bailouts barely got a mention. Yet the welfare state was blamed.

This gave rise to a slight contradiction: Despite austerity cuts reducing the welfare state, the documentary rightly states that Cameron's £700bn borrowing is the same as all the previous PMs' borrowing in the last 100 years and this borrowing has occurred when gilt interest rates are untypically low.
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Old 23-03-2014, 08:01 PM   #88
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We've been led to believe that what the bankers do is somehow highbrow and clever...

But really, what do they make? Cars? Houses? Clothes? Food?

They fuck around with all these things and make them unaffordable, but what do they produce of any value?
They make poverty out of plenty. Could a black magician manage this level of perverse-alchemy?

Usury: A charge for the use of purchasing power, levied without regard to production; often without regard to the possibilities of production. (Hence the failure of the Medici bank.)

Of course this informative documentary didn't tackle money creation and usury which has more often than not been historically banned.
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Old 23-03-2014, 08:05 PM   #89
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Though the parasites will try and keep the host alive for as long as they can....

dind ding next stop privatise the NHS!

My mother always says that as long as I have my health, I'll get by temporary lack.

Then I realised that they'll financialise health like they have every other basic human value such as food and shelter.
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Old 23-03-2014, 08:07 PM   #90
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History has shown us over and over that when despots take over govts and financial systems those civilizations fail. We, I mean Europe, the UK, and the US, are done. We are on the downward slope of failure and there really is nothing that can be done because we have no way to rid ourselves of the parasites that caused this. In fact, as we go down the parasites are sucking harder and harder in an effort to drain every last drop they can get from the host, and all the parasites are competeing with each other to get the more than the next guy.

Yeah, this is a cynical and dark picture of what we are about to face but it is very real and everyone of us better start changing our mindest and getting ready for it. This is not a recession, an economic cycle, or even a depression, this is the end of our societies as we have known them to be for the last 200 years or more. The PTB are going to pick us clean and then leave us behind for the developing world where they'll then do to them over the next 200 years what they did to us. Many of us have good jobs, nice homes, and decent lives, but all that is about to change.

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Old 23-03-2014, 08:10 PM   #91
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The Moneyweek thing is a load of crap. Period.

Do some research and you'll see their theory has some massive holes in it.

Think about it this way; *IF* the UK were on the brink of imminent financial collapse, why are Moneyweek encouraging people to sign up for a 12 month subscription by direct debit??!

It's a con to get your money, guys. They have been printing alarmist stories for years in order to get your money, don't fall for it.

(Put your money towards TPV instead!)

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The Moneyweek thing is a load of crap. Period.
Is Cameron's £700bn borrowing at historically low levels of usury true or false?

Is this £700bn figure more than all the PMs borrowed over the last century?
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The Moneyweek thing is a load of crap. Period.

Do some research and you'll see their theory has some massive holes in it.

Think about it this way; *IF* the UK were on the brink of imminent financial collapse, why are Moneyweek encouraging people to sign up for a 12 month subscription by direct debit??!

It's a con to get your money, guys. They have been printing alarmist stories for years in order to get your money, don't fall for it.

(Put your money towards TPV instead!)
So,
You are suggesting that people don't prep or stack ( food, pms, tool, skills ect),
but instead subscribe to TPV,

Hmmmm,

Sure subscribe to TPV if you wish,
but it will not save your life
or the lives of your family.
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The little blue planet called earth, an amazing piece of the universe yet the human inhabitant's evolutionary path is a travesty.

Such intelligence yet such ability to cause immense harm and suffering.

It is time for deletion.
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Old 24-03-2014, 11:32 AM   #95
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And they want your money in the stock market so they can short sell and steal it.
They've been quietly stealing peoples' money in the bank via inflation of goods and services and shit interest rates.
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