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Old 07-11-2013, 07:27 PM   #77721
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He died of cancer as far as I am aware.

Ah thanks for that, it's really good that he has this thread to stay in his honour as a good deed of his to humanity.

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Old 07-11-2013, 07:28 PM   #77722
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Re the ban on Jack the Ripper files, there has to be something in them that is damning to TPTB.
Why else would an historic Victorian crime not be out now in the public domain, they are all dead now, so has to be evidence pointing to THE Royal family at that time which would show their secret they have been trying to cover up for years.
Makes it all the more obvious
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:44 PM   #77723
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Detectives who handled sex crime allegations against Jimmy Savile are referred to police watchdog after no action was taken

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Two detectives who dealt with a sex crime claim against Jimmy Savile in 2008 have been referred to the police watchdog.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said it has directed Sussex Police to refer the conduct of the pair over their handling of the alleged indecent assault.
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MoD admits 32 child sex offenders in armed forces By Helen McArdle

THE ministry of defence has revealed there are 32 registered sex offenders currently serving in the British armed forces ... after the Army failed in a bid to keep a paedophile private out of jail.

Senior commanders in Scotland's Black Watch regiment tried - and failed - to persuade a sheriff not to send the self-confessed paedophile to jail. Senior officers offered to take him on a tour of duty to Afghanistan, and to monitor his behaviour.




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Old 07-11-2013, 07:50 PM   #77725
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A comment left today on The Needle blog...

"Sorry to jump in here but a quick mention on Fernbridge to raise spirits after leaks and pronoucements. Remember Christmas is coming… well its arrived early. So much for references to desk top detectives…good advice though… so I and others went out into the summer sun and well we hit the jackpot. In fact it is a game changer. So I can feel with ease that we are back in control and are going to win the big prize."
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:53 PM   #77726
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read this book CAMERA ASSASSIN by former news of the world photographer IAN CUTLER. He reveals what really went on in british tabloids ,not surprisingly he had difficulty getting this book published.
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A paedophile who admitted raping an eight-year-old girl was jailed indefinitely yesterday - despite the fact his victim has not been identified.
David Bye, 43, enticed the girl into his holiday caravan where he took a series of photographs of him abusing her.


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By WalesOnline
Jimmy Savile abuse probe: 'Cardiff hospital being investigated'
7 Nov 2013 19:03
Cardiff Royal Infirmary is one of the 13 currently involved in the Jimmy Savile abuse investigation.




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Was Princess Diana’s Assassination meant to happen in 1996?


The mysterious death of Princess Diana in 1997, has never been fully explained.

Various theories have emerged over the past 16 years which have cast doubts over the official story that Diana was killed in a crash after a Paparazzi car chase; the most popular being that she was murdered due to her relationship with Dodi Al-Fayed.

Could a more likely theory be that Diana had knowledge of the powerful VIP paedophile ring linked to the UK Government, the BBC and the Royal Family that has been operating in the UK for over 50 years and was about to blow the lid on what she knew?

We now know that Diana was aware of the Elm Guest House scandal, where boys were trafficked from local care homes to be abused by filthy VIP’s. Did this knowledge lead to her death?

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A Skipsea paedophile who was caught with more than 12,500 child porn images told authorities he wanted to start contacting girls.

Wayne Alan Saville, 39, said he wanted to go to "the next level" after he was caught using his credit card to buy indecent images of girls.

Saville was arrested by detectives at Far Grange Caravan Park in Skipsea on May 21.



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Old 07-11-2013, 08:33 PM   #77731
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What Kind of Secrets Must be Kept Hidden for Over One Hundred Years & to Protect Whom?

reminds me of this:


Eyes Wide Shut ritual scene was filmed at Elveden Hall

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Is there more to Crimestoppers than meets the eye?


Could Crimestoppers be yet another layer of the cover-up?

If we look at who exactly runs Crimestoppers, it becomes even more mysterious.

Here are the names of some of the organisation’s Trustees:

1) Nick Ross-

The former colleague of murdered presenter Jill Dando. He recently said he’d watch child-porn given half the chance. His wife Sarah Caplin, is a cousin of Esther Rantzen and a founding director of Childline. Suspicions have been raised that Childline is also a “gatekeeping” front organisation which is used to gather data on any child abuse reports that may involve VIPs. The Crimestoppers helpline conveniently stopped working at the time of the Jill Dando murder appeal.

2) Michael Ashcroft-

The controversial Tory donor who pays no tax and has non-dom status. He has been described as ruthless and “not a man to cross”. Made a Baron by the Queen.

3) Peter Imbert-

A former Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police who was in charge from 1987-1993 and may have a lot of information about why child- abuse claims made between these dates were ignored. Made a Baron by the Queen.

4) Lord Waheed Ali-

The first openly gay peer in Parliament and a wealthy entrepreneur. Owns a business, Shine Entertainment, with Rupert Murdoch’s daughter Elisabeth. Is a close friend of Tony Blair. Made a Baron by the Queen.

5) Peter Clarke-

A former Metropolitan Royal protection officer in charge of guarding Princess Diana at the time of her death. Made a CBE by the Queen.

6) Sir Ronnie Flanagan-

A former Chief Inspector of Constabulary. Was previously in charge of policing in Northern Ireland and Iraq. May have a lot of information about why child-abuse rings have been covered up.


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@ Diamond Dogs Thanks for that clarification:

The interior hall which leads to the pool room was apparently shot at Luton Hoo.




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The Hidden (And Not So Hidden) Messages in Stanley Kubrick’s “Eyes Wide Shut” (pt. II)

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The second part of this series of articles on Eyes Wide Shut takes a closer look at the elite secret society discovered by the film’s main character, Bill Harford, and how it resembles real life organizations. Was Stanley Kubrick trying to warn the world about the occult elite and its depraved ways?




In the first part of this series on Eyes Wide Shut, we looked at main characters of the film and the symbolic world Kubrick created around them. We saw that Bill and Alice Harford are a married upper-class couple that was not immune to the temptations of adultery. We also saw that the couple was in contact with the upper-echelon of New-York and its decadent ways – a world that fascinates Bill, but that has a dark side, one that is kept from the public. In this article, I will jump straight to the most unsettling part of the movie: The secret society ritual.

When Bill learns that his wife has considered cheating on him, he embarks in a strange series of encounters (which I will analyze in the third and final part of this series), eventually ending up in a luxurious house in Long Island where he encounters a large gathering of masked individuals partaking in an occult ritual. Since he was never initiated into that secret society, Bill was not even supposed to know that it existed, let alone bear witness to one of its “meetings”. So how did he find out about this thing? Well, a little birdie told him.

Nick Nightingale

At one point during his strange night out, Bill meets his old friend Nick Nightingale at a jazz cafe. The professional piano player reveals to Bill that he is sometimes hired by mysterious people to play, blindfolded, during mysterious parties that are full of beautiful women. This juicy piece of information intrigues Bill to the highest degree because, since his talk with his wife, he is appears to be looking for some kind of … experience. Nick ultimately makes a big mistake and agrees to provide Bill with all of the information needed to access the venue.

A nightingale is type of bird that is known for singing at night, just like Nick Nightingale “sings” secret information at the start of Bill’s fateful night.

The password to enter the ritual is “Fidelio”, which means “faithfulness”, a main theme of the movie. More importantly, as Nightingale points out, “Fidelio” is the name of an opera written by Beethoven about a wife who sacrifices herself to free her husband from death as a political prisoner. This password actually foreshadows what will happen during that ritual.

After getting the details from Nightingale, Bill rents a costume at a store named “Rainbow” (more about the store in the next article) … and then proceeds to go to Somerton, the estate where the party is being held.



The Occult Elite

The occult ritual takes place at Somerton, in Long Island. The building used to film these scenes is Mentmore Towers in UK.


The location selected to film the elite scenes is quite interesting. Mentmore Towers was built in the 19th century as a country house for a member of the most prominent and powerful elite family in the world: The Rothschilds. By selecting this location, was Kubrick trying to show his audience the “real world” equivalents to the ultra-elite shown in the movie? Incidentally, the name of Bill’s connection to the elite, Victor Ziegler, is of German-Jewish origin, like Rothschild.

It has been documented that the Rothschilds do actually partake in masked events very similar to those shown in Eyes Wide Shut. Here are rare images taken from a 1972 party given by Marie-Hélène de Rothschild.
Baroness Marie-Hélène de Rothschild and Baron Alexis de Redé.




Baroness Marie-Hélène de Rothschild and Baron Alexis de Redé at a 1972 party. Invitations were printed in reversed writing. One wonders if this party “degenerated” into something resembling what is shown in Eyes Wide Shut.

In the movie, when Bill enters the mansion, he mixes with a crowd of masked people silently watching the ritual. One of these people appear to instantly recognize Bill (or the fact that he doesn’t belong here).
A couple wearing Venetian masks slowly turn towards Bill and nod in a very creepy matter. Is this Ziegler and his wife? This is never really clarified.




A couple wearing Venetian masks (more specifically “female jester” and “bauta” masks) slowly turn towards Bill and nod in a very creepy matter. Is this Ziegler and his wife? Perhaps. Kubrick likes to keep things mysterious.

Venetian masks were originally worn during the Italian Renaissance in Venice and were a way for the powerful elite of the time to indulge in debauchery without reprisal.



“Though the precise origin of the mask-wearing tradition can’t be known for certain, the prevailing theory goes something like this: beginning in the Italian Renaissance, Venice was an extremely wealthy and powerful merchant empire. Its position on the Mediterranean sea opened it up to a myriad of trading opportunities across Europe, North Africa and Asia Minor, and its powerful navy allowed it to exert the military force necessary to defend its vast wealth. In a city-state so prosperous, it’s a small wonder that Venetian society was class-obsessed and rigidly stratified. One’s individual standing was immensely important for the perception of his or her entire family, and so naturally the pressure to act in accordance with the social morays governing one’s social standing was immense and stifling.

The Venetians, the theory goes, adopted the practice of wearing masks and other disguises during the Carnival season as a way of suspending the rigid social order. Under the cloak of anonymity, the citizens of Venice could loosen their inhibitions without fear of reprisal. Masks gained so much popularity that the mascherari (mask makers) became a venerated guild in Venetian society. However, as word of the famed Venetian Carnival spread, more and more outsiders flocked to the city every year to take part in the festivities. The Carnival celebrations became increasingly chaotic and debaucherous as the years progressed until their decline in the 18th Century.”
- Geoffrey Stanton, Guide to Venetian Carnival Masks

Since then, Venetian masks have been used in elite circles and have somewhat become a symbol of its dark occult philosophy. Even The British Royal Family appears to enjoy the same type of masks and events.
Prince Charles and Duchess Camilla wearing similar Venetian masks in the gardens of Clarence House.




Prince Charles and Duchess Camilla at Clarence House with bauta masks.


It seems evident that Kubrick carefully selected the Rothschild-owned location and hand-picked the masks worn by participants of the ritual, echoing real-life families and events.
Setting of the Ritual

When Bill enters Somerton, everything about the movie changes. There are no more colorful Christmas lights and no tacky decorations. Instead of incessant chatter between needy people, it is all about stillness and silence.
Silently looking right at the camera (and at the movie viewers), the creepy masks are silent yet disturbing reminders showing the "true faces" of the elite. Note that the multi-faced mask on the left is similar to the one worn at the Rothschild party above.




Staring right at the camera (and at the movie viewers), the creepy masks are silent yet disturbing reminders showing the “true faces” of the elite. Note that the multi-faced mask on the left which is similar to the one worn at the Royal party above.

The music in the movie also changes drastically. The song heard in the background is called “Backwards Priests” and features a Romanian Orthodox Divine Liturgy played backwards. The reversal or inversion of sacred objects is typical of black magic and satanic rituals. By having this Christian liturgy played backwards right before widespread fornication is Kubrick’s way of stating that the elite is nothing less than satanic.

Here we see Nightindale playing the music we hear, emphasizing the fact that people in the ritual actually hear that music and that the whole thing is choreographed to it. Nightindale is blindfolded because the "profane" have no right in seeing the occult rituals of the elite.

Here we see Nick Nightindale playing the song “Backwards Priest”, meaning that people in the ritual actually hear that music and that the whole thing is choreographed to it. Nightindale is blindfolded because the “profane” cannot witness the occult rituals of the elite.

The interior scenes of the party were shot at Elveden Hall, a private house in the UK designed to look like an Indian palace. When the “festivities” begin, a Tamil song called “Migration” plays in the background, adding to the South-Asian atmosphere (the original version of the song contained actual scriptural recitation of the Bhagavad Gita, but the chant was removed in the final version of the movie). This peculiar Indian atmosphere, combined with the lascivious scenes witnessed by Bill as he walks around the house, ultimately points towards the most important, yet most hidden part of the movie: Tantric Yoga and its Western occultism derivative, Sex Magick. This last concept was “imported” by British occultist Aleister Crowley and is now at the center of the teachings of various secret societies:

“Aleister Crowley’s connections with Indian Yoga and Tantra were both considerable and complex. Crowley had direct exposure to some forms of these practices and was familiar with the contemporary literature of the subjects, wrote extensively about them, and – what is perhaps the most important – he practiced them. In his assessment of the value of Tantra, he was ahead of his time, which habitually considered Tantra a degenerate form of Hinduism. Instead, he claimed that, “paradoxical as it may sound the Tantrics are in reality the most advanced of the Hindus”. Crowley’s influence in bringing Eastern, primarily Indian, esoteric traditions to the West extends also to his incorporation of the elements of Yoga and Tantra into the structure and program of two influential magical orders, the A.:A.: and the OTO.”

- Martin P. Starr, Aleister Crowley and Western Esotericism

The above quote stipulates that Tantric concepts were incorporated in two important secret societies: the A.:A.: and the OTO (Ordo Templi Orientis). The OTO is still extremely influential in elite circles and reaches the highest levels of politics, business and even the entertainment industry. At the core of these orders is the Thelema, a philosophy created by Aleister Crowley that he summed up with the saying “Do What Thou Wilt”. This saying is actually a translation of “Fais ce que tu voudras” the motto of an 18th century secret society, the infamous Hellfire Club.

Hellfire Clubs were said to be “meeting places of ‘persons of quality’ who wished to take part in immoral acts, and the members were often very involved in politics”. According to a number of sources, their activities included mock religious ceremonies, devil worship and occult rituals. Although details are vague regarding that elite club, they were known for performing elementary Satanic rites as a prelude to their nights of fornication. These acts were however not just “for fun” or to “shock people” as some sources might claim, the members were initiates of occult mysteries and their rituals were based in ancient rites involving invocations and other forms of black magick.

In short, although Kubrick never actually names the secret society infiltrated by Bill, there are enough clues to understand what kind of club he is referring to. Most importantly, he is telling his viewers: These societies still exist … and they are more powerful than ever.

The Ritual and its Participants

The ritual begins with the High Priest, dressed in red, performing a ceremonial routine. He is at the center of a “magic circle” formed by young women who are very likely to be Beta Kitten slaves. Later, when Bill is unmasked, another magic circle is formed.

The concept of Magic Circles is constantly referred to during the ritual and throughout the movie.

Magic circles is concept used in ritual magic during invocations. The placement of the people in this scene recalls magic circles.



Right: A magic circle as pictured in an ancient grimoire.
The last scene of the movie takes place at a toy store - a place full of highly symbolic details. Here, Helena walks by a toy called Magic Circle - hinting that there's a link between the occult underworld and the "real world". However, most people have their "eyes wide shut" to even realize it.

The last scene of the movie takes place at a toy store – a place full of highly symbolic items (more on it in the next article). Here, Helena Harford walks by a toy called Magic Circle – showing that the occult elite’s ways seep through popular culture, but are not noticed by those who have their eyes wide shut.

Amanda

At the beginning of the ritual, one of the Beta slaves goes to Bill and urges him to leave the house before he got caught. We ultimately learn that it was Amanda, the girl that was passed out in Ziegler’s bathroom. When Bill gets caught and gets (literally) unmasked by the High Priest, Amanda appears at the balcony in a very dramatic fashion and tells the High Priest she wants to “redeem” him, in a tone that approaches ritual drama. The Priest then replies “Are you sure you understand what you’re taking upon yourself in doing this?” This implies that she will be repeatedly abused and then sacrificed.

The next day, Bill discovers the true power of that secret society.
Bill discovers in the newspaper that Amanda was found dead in a hotel room due to an overdose. The way in which this ritualistic murder is diguised as an overdose is highly similar to the many celebrity ritual deaths disguised as overdoses described on this website.

Bill discovers in the newspaper that Amanda was found dead in a hotel room due to an overdose. The way in which this ritualistic murder is disguised as an overdose is highly similar to the many celebrity ritual deaths disguised as overdoses that occur in real life.

By freeze-framing and actually reading the above news article about Amanda, we learn important details about Amanda’s background (classic hidden sub-plot integration by Kubrick). To those “in the know”, the article perfectly describes the life of an entertainment industry Beta Programming slave (i.e. Marilyn Monroe). We indeed learn that Amanda was “emotionally troubled” as a teen and underwent “treatments” (a code word for MK Programming perhaps?), she had “important friends in the fashion and entertainment worlds”, and she had an “affair” with a powerful fashion designer who got “wowed by her private, seductive solo performances” (typical behavior of a Beta Kitten). What the article however conveniently doesn’t mention is that she was selling her body to elite people and being used in their occult rituals.

As it is the case for Beta Kittens who’ve gone “rogue”, she was eliminated by the people who controlled her life. The article states that she was last seen being escorted to her hotel room by two men and that she was “giggling” (drugged and dissociated?). Like “real life” elite sacrifices, “overdose” is cited as the cause of her death.

The High Priest



Cloaked in red, the High Priest sits on a throne which features a very important symbol: A double-headed eagle topped by a crown.



The double-headed eagle is one of the most ancient and prominent symbol of Freemasonry. A crowned double headed eagle is representative of the 33rd degree of Freemasonry, the highest degree attainable. With the symbol on the High Priest's throne, Kubrick secretly implies that the he's a 33rd Degree Freemason.
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Does Alan McGee read this forum - I think we were the first to notice the apparent Savile reference in "Panic"....

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I shan’t name names – that reminds me, I must give Eamon Sweeney a call – but a little Hot Press dickie-bird tells me of Alan’s now sadly scuppered plans to stage a Britpop musical with Irvine Welsh.

“It might still happen. We’re in talks about that with a certain big time promoter. It came to life again about two-weeks ago, so there you go – you’ve got your fucking exclusive!

“I met Irvine the other night and – you have to put this in! – he had a fucking skirt on. He said, ‘It’s a kilt’ but I know a skirt when I see one. I’m worried about Irvine…”

Either the Scottish author is indulging in a Kevin Rowland-style expression of his sexuality or McGee is using this august journal to royally wind him up. What can’t be denied is the basing of Freddie Royle, the sexually deviant celebrity hospital volunteer in Welsh’s 1996 tome Ecstasy, on Jimmy Savile whose crimes weren’t publicly acknowledged until 14 years later.

“Well, what about ‘Panic’? I mean: ‘He says nothing to me about my life/Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ.’ It mentions Leeds; ‘On the Leeds side-street that you slip-down.’ Either Morrissey had heard the rumours about Savile or he was magically pulling it out of the fucking air.

“I met him in ’99 and thought he was a piece of work, but I never thought he was a paedophile at that point.”
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http://www.hotpress.com/features/int...how_comments=1
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BBC News - 7 November 2013
Jimmy Savile allegation at Cardiff Royal Infirmary


Health officials have investigated an allegation against Jimmy Savile relating to Cardiff Royal Infirmary.
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The disclosure that Cardiff Royal Infirmary was involved in the inquiry was made in a written Parliamentary answer by health minister Norman Lamb.

In a statement on Thursday night, the health board said: "Cardiff and Vale University Health Board can confirm that it has investigated one allegation from an adult relating to an alleged incident at Cardiff Royal Infirmary in the early 1960s.

"The health board is working closely with South Wales Police and the Department of Health on the matter and is not in a position to comment further at this time."

In his answer, Mr Lamb revealed there were 13 hospitals being investigated.

Many of them had previously been identified, but this was the first time that a hospital in Wales had been named as being part of the inquiry.

An investigation has also been commissioned by the Sue Ryder charity in relation to Wheatfields Hospice in Leeds.

In October UK Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt said: "It is vital that the final NHS investigation reports are thorough and complete, and reflect all the evidence about Jimmy Savile's pattern of offending.

"The final reports of all the investigations will now aim to be completed by June 2014, with publication sooner if that is possible."

Hospitals under investigation
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  • Leeds General Infirmary (including St James's Hospital)
  • Stoke Mandeville Hospital
  • Broadmoor Hospital
  • High Royds Psychiatric Hospital
  • Dewsbury Hospital
  • Great Ormond Street Hospital
  • Moss Side Hospital
  • Exeter Hospital
  • Portsmouth Hospital
  • St Catherine's Hospital
  • Cardiff Royal Infirmary
  • Rampton Hospital
  • Saxondale Hospital
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Eagle Radio - 7 November 2013
Surrey Police asked to help as IPCC investigates Sussex officers


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Surrey Police has been asked to provide extra information relating to Jimmy Savile.

It is as the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) looks into the conduct of two officers from Sussex Police.

The police watchdog wants to know more about how a reported indecent assault was handled.

A woman contacted Sussex Police in 2008 claiming Jimmy Savile had assaulted her.

The watchdog wants to look into how the officers involved handled the case.

As part of that, Surrey Police, West Yorkshire and the Met have been asked to provide further information.

The IPCC is already investigating claims a West Yorkshire inspector acted of behalf of Savile ahead of an interview with Surrey Police in 2009.
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The Press - 7 November 2013
Review: Steve Harley and Cockney Rebel, Harrogate Royal Hall


There are little vignettes and stories peppered throughout the show, as Harley has “a Condor moment, not a senior moment”, mid-song, then chips in with his experiences and thoughts on the Jimmy Savile scandal, both serious (“They all knew, all the DJs knew. Why didn’t they tell anybody?”), and less so (after worries about losing repeat fees through Savile’s TOTP shows being pulled from broadcast, “Happily, after some research, we found out he didn’t introduce any of ours”).
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