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Old 29-07-2009, 04:08 AM   #1
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According to the Department of Health, there were more than 100.000 new cases of h1n1 in the UK last week alone.

For the US, the total number to date is about 43.000 according to the CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/H1n1flu/update.htm

Why are there so many more cases in the UK?

Are UK citizens more genetically exposed to h1n1, or are the UK numbers exaggerated?
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Old 29-07-2009, 04:30 AM   #2
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Hi, the figure of "100,000 new cases of swine flu in the UK" was complete
lies and bullshit, printed in many of the gutter press tabloid newspapers to
stir up panic and fear in UK citizens.

A new National Health Service hotline was setup / open for calls last week.
The 100,000 new cases were healthy people just phoning the swine flu
hotline for general information.

As David Icke has stated in his article, "It's the Vaccine", many people
around the world die from 'ordinary flu' every year, but the controlled press
and media are reporting cases of ordinary flu as "swine flu" just to beef up
the media headlines and create more fear and hysteria in UK citizens.

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Old 29-07-2009, 04:32 AM   #3
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Simply because diagnosis based on any symptom roughly fitting is now called swine flu just in case.

with no lab tests any numbers of people can be told they have it.
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Old 29-07-2009, 05:42 AM   #4
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Because when someone with a sore throat phones a Doctor's Surgery and says "I think I might have Swine Flu", two things happen.

1. Someone adds 1 to the confirmed Swine Flu Case Count.
2. They're told to stay at home.

It's all BS.
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Old 29-07-2009, 06:50 AM   #5
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i dunno what they write about, there is no swine flu in London, everybody's healthy and socialising bigger than before , restourants and clubs are full, non of my friends ill
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Old 29-07-2009, 07:15 AM   #6
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Because when someone with a sore throat phones a Doctor's Surgery and says "I think I might have Swine Flu", two things happen.

1. Someone adds 1 to the confirmed Swine Flu Case Count.
2. They're told to stay at home.

It's all BS.
im getting fucked off with it now!! some of my friends have had cases where they work and its all they talk about.i always ask how they know the person had swine flu and they say "they phoned the swine flu hotline and they told them they had it". so next time someone on the phone to me or on facebook say they have a headache im gonna say you've got a brain tumour!!
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Old 29-07-2009, 07:33 AM   #7
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im just sick of seeing it posted everywere!!! everytime i click homepage there it is , like yesterday kids will have soft toys removed as it will spread swine flu...


WTF!!! talk about repeat repeat repeat..........

please give me a switch off pill..
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Old 29-07-2009, 08:01 AM   #8
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If there were 100,000 cases in a week and hardly any deaths from it, then we can forget the vaccine can't we?
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Old 29-07-2009, 08:13 AM   #9
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My old man was just back from a cruise from Hong Kong, and he said " they were extremely strict at every port, they tested everybody for swine flue before they would allow you off the ship."
I asked him did they take a blood test, he said no, they take your temp and pulse.
I said do you really think that they can tell if you have swine flue just by taking your temp
How gullible are the sheeple.

and yes I'm tired of trying to be politically correct any more

sheeple.
sheeple.
sheeple.

and i don't care, I used to be one anyway, so what.
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Old 29-07-2009, 08:17 AM   #10
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My old man was just back from a cruise from Hong Kong, and he said " they were extremely strict at every port, they tested everybody for swine flue before they would allow you off the ship."
I asked him did they take a blood test, he said no, they take your temp and pulse.
I said do you really think that they can tell if you have swine flue just by taking your temp
How gullible are the sheeple.

and yes I'm tired of trying to be politically correct any more

sheeple.
sheeple.
sheeple.

and i don't care, I used to be one anyway, so what.

Great post EX- sheep!



Anyone know of something called a 'summer cold?' Anyone????


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Old 29-07-2009, 08:21 AM   #11
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What isn't reported is that there was a Swine Flu Epidemic in the US in 1976. They rushed out mass vaccinations and guess what. A whole bunch of people fell ill from the Jabs.

More people died from the vaccination than they did from the Swine Flu.

They will have to hold me down before someone puts a needle in me...!
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according to the department of health, there were more than 100.000 new cases of h1n1 in the uk last week alone.

For the us, the total number to date is about 43.000 according to the cdc
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm

why are there so many more cases in the uk?

Are uk citizens more genetically exposed to h1n1, or are the uk numbers exaggerated?
do you swallow everything that is fed to you???
Or do you thnk for yourself, know its lies and laugh at them instead?
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Good point about 100000 cases and no more deaths.
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I spoke to my ex a few days ago and he told me that his 7 year old daughter has to be kept in isolation because she has swine flu. I was so annoyed and had to explain to him that it was bullshit and not the big deal that its been made out to be. He took no notice of me and thought I was mental.

Anyway, she is fine now. Her mother has just had a baby and obviously she was worried about the baby catching it but nobody else in the family seems to have caught it and so it looks like it went away on its own.
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Simply because diagnosis based on any symptom roughly fitting is now called swine flu just in case.

with no lab tests any numbers of people can be told they have it.
Exactly!! This IS the scenario, of the bullshit doctors giving the patients bullshit swineflu results.

Here in Perth, a rather large barmaid (at my local pub) was sick with bronchittis, she gets this every year AFTER with the "flu" jabs, and was diagnosed the swine flu after a second check up.

It's obvious the big pharma are playing the game with these false records, in order to promote it's vaccination program.
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Political Lies and Media Disinformation regarding the Swine Flu Pandemic

August 1, 2009 by Michel Chossudovsky

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What is the flu? Influenza (the flu) is a serious contagious respiratory illness caused by influenza viruses. Millions of people in the United States get the flu each year. Most people are sick for about a week. Some people (especially young children, pregnant women, older people, and people with chronic health problems) can get very sick and may die from the flu. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)



The World Health Organization (WHO) raised its pandemic alert level to Phase 5 on a 6 point scale.

The WHO's Phase 5 alert means "there is sustained human-to-human spread in at least two countries and that global outbreak of the disease is imminent... It also signals an increased effort to produce a vaccine... Human cases have been confirmed in Mexico, the United States, Canada, Britain, Israel, New Zealand and Spain." (emphasis added)

According to reports, the WHO took this decision after " a 23-month-old [child] died [from the swine flu] in Texas after travelling there from Mexico for medical treatment."

The swine flu was, according to reports, confirmed in 11 states in the US. Health officials at the WHO in Geneva and Washington are quoted as saying that the "spread of the virus is unlikely to stop".

The media has gone into full gear with little analysis and review of the evidence, focussing their attention on the more than 2400 cases of non-specific influenza in Mexico.

"the global outbreak is imminent...

all countries should activate preparedness plans",

The worst health crisis facing the world in 90 years..."


On the day following the WHO's Phase 5 Pandemic Alert, a scientist attached to the European Union's Centre for Disease Control and Prevention hinted, without evidence, that the epidemic could potentially affect 40% to 50% of the EU population "in a mild way". (See europeanvoice.com, April 30, 2009).

Professor Neil Ferguson, a member of the World Health Organisation task force on swine flu, stated that "40 per cent of people in the UK could be infected within the next six months if the country was hit by a pandemic."

“We don’t really know what size epidemic we will get over the next couple of months... It is almost certain that, even if it does fade away in the next few weeks – which it might – we will get a seasonal epidemic in the autumn."

“We might expect up to 30 to 40 per cent of the population to become ill in the next six months if this truly turns into a pandemic. “We could get substantial numbers infected in the next few weeks but, if I was to be a betting man, I would say it would be slightly longer because we are moving into summer.” Prof. Ferguson said the 152 deaths in Mexico probably made up a relatively small proportion of the total number infected, which might run into tens or hundreds of thousands." (Daily Express, May 1, 2009)

The media reports are twisted. Realities are turned up side down. Policy statements are not backed by medical and scientific evidence. Professor Ferguson's statements are unfounded. He has not bothered to check the number of "laboratory confirmed" swine flu cases in Mexico.

30 to 40 % of the British population? Up to 50 % of the population of the European Union's 500 million population?

On what basis are these statements being made?

On April 27, there was, according to reports, only one case of swine flu in the entire European Union: "Europe's first confirmed case of swine flu has been diagnosed in Spain. The country's health ministry confirmed the news on Monday morning, after tests on a man who had recently returned from a trip to Mexico." (BBC, April 27, 2009)






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Weakening the Social Protest Movement

Statements of this nature on the "inevitable spread" of the disease, create, quite deliberately, an atmosphere of fear, insecurity and panic. They also serve to distract people's attention from a devastating global economic crisis which is leading the World into mass poverty and unemployment, not to mention the war in the Middle East and the broader issue of US-NATO war crimes.

The Real Global Crisis is marked by poverty, economic collapse, ethnic strife, death and destruction, the derogation of civil rights and the demise of State social programs. The EU announcement of the swine flu pandemic inevitably serves to weaken the social protest movement which has spread across Europe.

In Mexico, the swine flu emergency measures which have "closed down" entire urban areas, are widely perceived as a pretext of the Felipe Calderon government to curb mounting social dissent against one of the most corrupt administrations in Mexican history.

In Mexico, the May 1st Parade, which was directed against the Calderon government, was cancelled.

The WHO's Balance Sheet

The WHO advisory points to 148 laboratory confirmed cases Worldwide of the swine influenza, including 8 deaths, barely a pandemia:

"29 April 2009 -- The situation continues to evolve rapidly. As of 18:00 GMT, 29 April 2009, nine countries have officially reported 148 cases of swine influenza A/H1N1 infection. The United States Government has reported 91 laboratory confirmed human cases, with one death. Mexico has reported 26 confirmed human cases of infection including seven deaths.

The following countries have reported laboratory confirmed cases with no deaths - Austria (1), Canada (13), Germany (3), Israel (2), New Zealand (3), Spain (4) and the United Kingdom (5).

Further information on the situation will be available on the WHO website on a regular basis." (WHO.org)

In a 29 April statement, the WHO Director-General, Dr Margaret Chan confirmed that

"Based on assessment of all available information, and following several expert consultations, I have decided to raise the current level of influenza pandemic alert from phase 4 to phase 5.

Influenza pandemics must be taken seriously precisely because of their capacity to spread rapidly to every country in the world.

... WHO will be tracking the pandemic at the epidemiological, clinical, and virological levels.

... I have reached out to donor countries, to UNITAID, to the GAVI Alliance, the World Bank and others to mobilize resources.

Bonanza for the Pharmaceutical Conglomerates

Big Pharma has been identified by the WHO as the solution to the crisis:

"I [the WHO Director-General] have reached out to companies manufacturing antiviral drugs to assess capacity and all options for ramping up production. I have also reached out to influenza vaccine manufacturers that can contribute to the production of a pandemic vaccine."

The swine flu pandemic constitutes a corporate bonanza for a handful of BioTech conglomerates. The European Union has already given the green light to work with Big Pharma to develop a vaccine against the swine flu.

Examination of the Evidence

The data used to justify a Worldwide level 5 alert is extremely scanty. The WHO not only asserts that a "global outbreak of the disease is imminent", it also distorts Mexico's mortality data pertaining to the swine flu pandemic. According to the WHO Director General Dr. Margaret Chan in her official April 29 statement: "So far, 176 people have been killed in Mexico". From what? Where does she get these numbers? 159 died from influenza out of which only seven deaths corroborated by lab analysis, resulted from the H1N1 swine flu strain, according to the Mexican Ministry of Health. (For details, see below).

As documented by William Engdahl, the symptoms of swine flu are non specific, similar to those of flu in general. (See William Engdahl, Global Research, April 29, 2009).

Scientific opinion contradicts the WHO official statement:

"Scientists studying the virus are coming to the consensus that this hybrid strain of influenza -- at least in its current form -- isn't shaping up to be as fatal as the strains that caused some previous pandemics.

In fact, the current outbreak of the H1N1 virus, which emerged in San Diego and southern Mexico late last month, may not even do as much damage as the run-of-the-mill flu outbreaks that occur each winter without much fanfare.

Mounting preliminary evidence from genetics labs, epidemiology models and simple mathematics suggests that the worst-case scenarios are likely to be avoided in the current outbreak." (Los Angeles Times, April 30, 2009)

Mexico

Influenza is a common disease. There are millions of cases of influenza across America, on an annual basis. "According to the Canadian Medical Association Journal, the flu kills up to 2,500 Canadians and about 36,000 Americans annually. Worldwide, the number of deaths attributed to the flu each year is between 250,000 and 500,000" (Thomas Walkom, The Toronto Star, May 1, 2009)

Most of the reported influenza cases in Mexico do not exhibit the A/H1N1 strain.

From the press reports, most of the Mexican cases of swine flu were "suspected": they have not been confirmed by an advanced lab examination. The Mexican Minister of Health, José Ángel Córdova confirmed that there were "2498 serious cases of atypical pneumonia associated with a flu condition" ...[which] could be related to the A/H1N1 virus". Out of those 2498 cases of influenza, 159 died, of influenza or related ailments, but only seven of these deaths were related to the swine flu, according to the official statement of the Minister of Health.

The figures above are consistent with the overall pattern of influenza observed in Mexico in previous years. "In a normal year, between 6,500 and 7,500 Mexicans die from pneumonia-like diseases" (Ibid)

159 reported deaths "have been blamed on the outbreak" but the lab reports suggest that the swine flu was the cause of death only in seven out of 159 cases.

For instance, in the Veracruz town of La Gloria where there was an outbreak of acute respiratory infections, out of 450 cases, 35 were tested for the swine flu virus and only one came back positive. (That is a ratio of 1/450)

The press reports are invariably biased. They will quote 152 or 159 deaths from the H1N1 virus, when in fact only seven of these deaths are associated with the A/H1N1 swine flue strain, according to the Minister of Health. The other deaths may be associated with cases of ordinary flu and/or related conditions, but it seems that the reports rarely make the distinction. Moreover, no details were given as to the lab results pertaining to these seven cases.

In the US only one lab in the entire country has the ability to confirm the identify of the virus, namely the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention located in Atlanta. How many labs are there in Mexico which have the ability to confirm the identify of the virus?

According to reports, samples are being sent to Mexico's National Institute of Epidemiological Diagnosis and Reference, which then forwards them to government labs in the US and Canada. What this suggests is that there is no lab based analysis which documents the relatively large number of suspected cases. According to the Minister's statements, the laboratory analysis pertaining to the 159 deaths is being conducted in Mexican labs with the support of the Atlanta based CDCP and that the results are forthcoming.

The US

In the US there have been 109 reported cases of the virus (April 30, 2009), of which only five were hospitalized. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control confirmed that a 23 month child in Texas had died from the swine flu virus, following hospitalisation and clinical examination.

U.S. Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection
(As of April 30, 2009, 10:30 AM ET) States # of laboratory confirmed cases Deaths
Arizona 1
California 14
Indiana 1
Kansas 2
Massachusetts 2
Michigan 1
Nevada 1
New York 50
Ohio 1
South Carolina 10
Texas 26 1
TOTAL COUNTS 109 cases 1 death
International Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection
See: World Health Organization

Media Disinformation

News reports point to "hundreds of New York schoolchildren reported to have fallen sick with "suspected swine flu". There was, however, no evidence corroborated by lab examinations of the incidence of the swine flu H1N1 strain. In all likelihood, the children were suffering from the flu, which is part of a common occurrence during the month of April. "All the cases were mild, no child was hospitalized, no child was seriously ill,” Dr. Frieden said. Health officials reached their preliminary conclusion after conducting viral tests on nose or throat swabs from the eight students, which allowed them to eliminate other strains of flu."

Tests were conducted on school children in Queen's, but the tests were inconclusive: among theses "hundreds of school children", there were no reports of laboratory analysis leading to a positive identification of the influenza virus. In fact the reports are contradictory: according to the reports, the Atlanta based CDCP is the "only lab in the country that can positively confirm the new swine flu strain — which has been identified as H1N1." (NYT, April 25, 2009)

Influenza is a common disease. Unless there is a thorough lab examination, the identity if the virus cannot be established.

It is revealing that the Atlanta based CDCP is playing a key role in identifying the virus on behalf of several Latin American countries, including Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador and Costa Rica. On April 30th, the US government established a CDCP lab in Mexico. In other words, a US government agency is monopolising the conduct of laboratory testing, the data and analysis.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=13433
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Swine Flu Hoax! Dont let them scare you into taking vaccine


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Please spread it! In 2008 this guy talks about possible Flu pandemic in 2009, Its starting to look like he's right..

DONT TAKE THE VACCINE!
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