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Old 21-09-2012, 06:06 AM   #1
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Default You Ready for Obama's Middle Class Tax Hike?

"Congressional budget analysts are now estimating that nearly 6 million Americans — most of them in the middle class — will have to pay a tax penalty for not getting health insurance once President Barack Obama's health care law is fully in place.

That's 2 million more than a previous estimate found, or a 50 percent increase. The average penalty will be nearly $1,200."

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Old 21-09-2012, 06:18 AM   #2
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Don't Believe Obama's Ads, Romney Is A Middle Class Tax Cutter

"Barack Obama on the campaign trail derides Romney’s proposed tax rate cuts as magical fairy dust. That is the language you get from a President when you take a Marxist street agitator off the streets of inner city Chicago and put him in the White House, as the Democrat Party has done to America."

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Old 21-09-2012, 05:44 PM   #3
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The mandate, was actually first Romney's idea, under Romneycare. So, why not let people know about that as well?

Also, there will be assistance for those who don't make enough money. I thought we went over this already in one of the topics.
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Old 21-09-2012, 05:48 PM   #4
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I'm glad the poor people can still afford to buy corn. I'd hate for the govt to force me to buy corn insurance.

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Old 21-09-2012, 05:49 PM   #5
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WTH Corn is not going to get sick and have to go to the hospital on our tax dollars. What an irrelevant and silly analogy
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Old 21-09-2012, 07:07 PM   #6
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Irrelevant like waste management. Silly like a fox.

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Old 21-09-2012, 08:08 PM   #7
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So what? when Romney and other millionaires are paying 14% or less on taxes when the standard say ti should be 35% for $388,000+ on their annual income why should we care about this? Nothing is going to change, I made 456 times less than Romney last year and paid 30% in taxes... Whats that shit all about? Hows $1200 going to hurt me any more?
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Old 21-09-2012, 08:16 PM   #8
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So what? when Romney and other millionaires are paying 14% or less on taxes when the standard say ti should be 35% for $388,000+ on their annual income why should we care about this? Nothing is going to change, I made 456 times less than Romney last year and paid 30% in taxes... Whats that shit all about? Hows $1200 going to hurt me any more?
Then who will create all them jobs?

I find it ironic that right-wingers attack public-sector employees who are taxed at 30%, yet deify fuckwits like Romney who bribe legislators so they are only taxed at %14.
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Old 21-09-2012, 08:22 PM   #9
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When obama says, he wants to, "redistribute wealth", he is not talking about The super rich, he is talking about redistributing the middle class on down.

Why else do you think obama supports banker bailouts? He won't dare offend his corporate big wig friends.
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Old 21-09-2012, 08:28 PM   #10
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LMAO... The Redistribute wealth video was from 98 and wasn't about that, to Quote:


"In the full recording, obtained by NBC News, Obama continues to explain in the next sentence that he is speaking broadly about making city and state government more efficient in their use of resources — and endorses “competition” in the “marketplace.”"

From ABCnews.com

Seriously? Facts bro.
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Old 21-09-2012, 08:32 PM   #11
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Default "The largest Middle Class tax hike in the world"

"CBO estimates that health insurance will cost $15,000 per year on average for families soon after Obamacare is fully implemented, rising rapidly from there. That is the individual mandate tax on the middle class and working people.

Of course, Obamacare includes a whole new entitlement program (just what we need) providing health insurance welfare for families making up to $88,000 a year to start, rising to over $100,000 a year after a few years. With that welfare, the net cost to families at different income levels is limited to 2 percent of income for people at 133 percent of poverty up to 9.8 percent of income for people at 400 percent of poverty. But that in itself is still like a new payroll tax, or income tax surcharge.

Moreover, taxpayers pay for the health insurance welfare as well. So the entire cost of the individual mandate tax is still $15,000 per year for families to start, and rising rapidly. That adds up to the largest tax increase on the middle class in world history.
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Old 21-09-2012, 08:45 PM   #12
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Why would any of this come as any surprise to anyone? Obama is a socialist. That's what Socialist do....spend other people's money.

Did you think he was kidding when he talks of, "redistributing wealth"?

Obama is only doing what comes natural for him.

Not only is obama a socialist, he is an international socialist. Meaning, his middle class tax increase monies probably won't even stay in the US.
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Arcylus the fact that you even are posting anything by that GOP Teabagging Puppet Peter Ferrara makes me want to ignore everything you say.
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Old 21-09-2012, 08:56 PM   #14
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"Barack Obama's re-election racket has been running millions of dollars' worth of advertisements claiming that Mitt Romney's "plan" will raise taxes on middle class Americans. This isn't true; Romney promises precisely the opposite, and FactCheck.org has called out Democrats for repeated the debunked charge. But to paraphrase Bill Clinton's DNC speech in Charlotte, it takes some brass to preemptively criticize someone else for doing what you've already done yourself. Before we get to the latest dreary punchline, let's go back to the video tape. May I present to you the man who has been promising you lots of things for the last four years:

I can make a firm pledge: Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.”

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Old 21-09-2012, 09:06 PM   #15
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It does not matter who you vote for, it's all rigged. It's a distraction from the other stuff that's going on. It's a big game. It's even admitted that the people's votes don't count, only the electorial college matters.
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Old 21-09-2012, 09:10 PM   #16
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Default 1.7 Trillion Tax Increase

Not just any old tax increase, but a 1.7 Trillion tax increase.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/28/wi...08-tax-pledge/
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Arcylus the fact that you even are posting anything by that GOP Teabagging Puppet Peter Ferrara makes me want to ignore everything you say.
Well, socialism is bad if you subscribe to the revisionist history of the good ol' US of A. Many right-wingers feel socialism is a negative thing without regard to what Socialism actually is. If they didn't have such a hard-coded and unreasonable resentment towards socialism, then it wouldn't be so con them into acting against their own interests.
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If anyone would like to find out more about actual Socialists in the USA, their party has a web site: http://www.pslweb.org/

You might also find it interesting they share the same feelings that most of us regarding the rigged election system: http://www.pslweb.org/votepsl/2012/s...unning-in.html

Lets do our part to not use the David Icke forum as a repository for disinformation or participating in the illusion of two choices. Arguing that Obama is a socialist is incorrect and only effective if the audience is equally misinformed about socialism.
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It does not matter who you vote for, it's all rigged. It's a distraction from the other stuff that's going on. It's a big game. It's even admitted that the people's votes don't count, only the electorial college matters.
I hope you don't take birth control, or plan to use gov't programs to keep up with your health, because with a Romney win, those will be at stake.

There is a major difference between the parties, but when you're so involved in this "There is no paradigm" paradigm, you miss what's really going on.

Here is just one example of who he would put in charge and what their plans/ideals are:

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Robert Bork: Mitt Romney's Corporate-Power Tool

Yet, just when it looked like things couldn't get any worse, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney selected as his top legal adviser Robert Bork, a conservative polemicist whose career has been devoted to the proposition that corporations can basically do no wrong, the courts should faithfully serve the corporate agenda, and democratic government should step out of the way.

While Bork is an authoritarian statist when it comes to the rights of individual Americans to obtain birth control or read books, have sex or watch movies that Bork disapproves of (see Borking America: What Robert Bork Will Mean for the Supreme Court and American Justice), he is a laissez-faire libertarian when it comes to the rights of large corporations to ditch environmental regulation, fire pro-union workers and generally have their way with the rest of us without regulatory restraint. He seeks hierarchical discipline for natural persons but maximum freedom for big businesses to merge with one another, purge their workers, and splurge on pet politicians.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jamie-...b_1846740.html

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Who has Mitt Romney chosen to help him select Justices? Right-wing extremist Robert Bork, whose views are so extreme his own nomination to the Court was rejected by a broad, bipartisan coalition more than 20 years ago.

Selecting Supreme Court Justices is one of the most important jobs a President will do. Justices serve for life, and their rulings affect every aspect of our country, from workers' rights and corporate power to a woman's right to choose and who can vote in elections.

We can't let Mitt Romney and Robert Bork shape our Supreme Court. It's just too dangerous.

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I hope you don't take birth control, or plan to use gov't programs to keep up with your health, because with a Romney win, those will be at stake.

There is a major difference between the parties, but when you're so involved in this "There is no paradigm" paradigm, you miss what's really going on.

Here is just one example of who he would put in charge and what their plans/ideals are:
Speculation. Always speculation.

Until Romney is president, all you will ever be able to summon up is just more speculation.

.....on the other hand, there is no speculation regarding obama. Obama has already, "strutted his stuff", "shot his wad", "talked the talk" and bullshitted everyone who trusted him.

1.7 Trillion tax increase on the middle class is the obama legend. There is no sand box big enough to hide that turd.

How much will your taxes go up with another 4 years of the greatest tax hiker of all time? The sky is the limit!

Now there is some speculation you can seek your teeth into.
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