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Old 24-07-2012, 01:15 PM   #61
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Winegums was not talking about Autism, he was talking about polio and eugenics....and how that conspiracy is not panning out.

Why reply to a post, if you are just going to change the topic ?
OK, stupid, I will reiterate what the poster said before winegums the shill replied to it:-

Stelios - "They want to reduce the world's population by injecting us with shit." - (factual comment, i agree)

Winegums answered with her usual pharma-indoctrinated crap:-

winegums(shill) - "They're doing a terrible job then. Infant mortality is at the lowest it's ever been, people are living longer than ever (on average), and we're even able to help the infertile reproduce! "

I mentioned autism as it is a disease, which winegums has constantly denied is caused by vaccines. Or is autism not a disease? You tell me mr big pharma.... baaaaaaaaa

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Old 24-07-2012, 01:21 PM   #62
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Really ?
The rabies vaccine is the prime reason that Rabies is not running rapid.
OK mr official-big-pharma who quotes (and obviously believes) big-pharma/government propaganda, i'll ask you this question, that i have asked countless pet owners, and VETS:-

"have you ever, in your whole life, seen or heard of ANY PETS WHATSOEVER that have EVER had rabies?"

Thought not... they all answered no too. Yet they're all too willing to $£$£$£ inject innocent pets whenever they can, in the name of 'precautions'....get real...it DOESN'T EXIST. baaaaaaaaaaaaa

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http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/location/usa/index.html

The more people that don't vaccinate their pets for Rabies....the higher the probability your pet can get infected, or you.
Straight from the mouth of big pharma eh stupid... (couldnt make this shit up!). Or just maybe that government site is telling the truth..... baaaaaaaa.

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Do you know the treatment for a pet that contracts Rabies ?
Either they are given a Rabies booster and quarantined for 45 days (alone in a cage) for observation, or they are put to sleep (killed).
Is that how you want your pet treated ?
My pets have never had vaccines...and guess what stupid....they've never had a single disease....ever.....especially rabies....why ? Because rabies is a MYTH......STUPID. One you've obviously fallen for. baaaaaaaaa

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From the ASPCA:


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I was just bitten by my own dog (breaking up a fight). She snapped at anything within reach during the fight. My arm was an easy target. Earlier in the week, my dog killed two wild animals. Now, protecting the life of your pet from Rabies is sane and compassionate....NOT protecting them is INSANE....especially if the virus can be spread to you.
Bullshit. Carry on though (stupid by name.....stupid by.....)

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Old 24-07-2012, 01:44 PM   #63
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Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children!


read it and weep shills
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Old 24-07-2012, 03:43 PM   #64
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I mentioned autism as it is a disease, which winegums has constantly denied is caused by vaccines. Or is autism not a disease? You tell me mr big pharma.... baaaaaaaaa
Autism is not a disease, it is a disorder.
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Old 24-07-2012, 03:44 PM   #65
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Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children!


read it and weep shills
Where are you getting this false information?
And if it was true, why are you happy about it? That's awful.
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Old 24-07-2012, 04:33 PM   #66
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Can anyone help with this thread - advice on MMR

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217578

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Old 24-07-2012, 05:06 PM   #67
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Autism is not a disease, it is a disorder.
yawn get a life.
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Old 24-07-2012, 05:27 PM   #68
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It's frightening the way school's bully parents into getting vaccinations. They hound the parents and threaten all kinds of repercussions ime.
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Old 24-07-2012, 05:29 PM   #69
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yawn get a life.
Hahaha, very productive reply.
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Old 24-07-2012, 05:31 PM   #70
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http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug...cines-20110808
Maybe this article will help
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Old 24-07-2012, 06:23 PM   #71
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OK, stupid, I will reiterate what the poster said before winegums the shill replied to it:-

Stelios - "They want to reduce the world's population by injecting us with shit." - (factual comment, i agree)

Winegums answered with her usual pharma-indoctrinated crap:-

winegums(shill) - "They're doing a terrible job then. Infant mortality is at the lowest it's ever been, people are living longer than ever (on average), and we're even able to help the infertile reproduce! "

I mentioned autism as it is a disease, which winegums has constantly denied is caused by vaccines. Or is autism not a disease? You tell me mr big pharma.... baaaaaaaaa
But, on the actual subject, am I wrong? Is the population going up or down? Why would IVF and fertility clinics exist on the NHS if there's this grand scheme?
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Old 24-07-2012, 06:36 PM   #72
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The fear of vaccines and possible side-effects is truly disproportional to the alternative of no vaccines at all.
Sure, there are cases of bad reactions....as with any foreign introduced substance injected into the body.
What would you rather have.
A child with autism, brain damage, bowel damage, learning difficulties and multiple food intolerances.
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A one in million chance of contracting a disease that can usually be treated with medicines?
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Old 24-07-2012, 07:03 PM   #73
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What would you rather have.
A child with autism, brain damage, bowel damage, learning difficulties and multiple food intolerances.
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A one in million chance of contracting a disease that can usually be treated with medicines?
Vaccines don't cause autism, we know this for pretty much absolute fact.

As for the others, why don't you get some numbers out to compare chances of serious side effects of vaccines vs serious chances of illness from unvaccinated illness? I'll be right here.
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Old 24-07-2012, 08:32 PM   #74
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It has already been proven in court that vaccines are involved with autism you knob, stop spreading disinfo!
Did you not read the article? Vaccines causing autism is the disinformation. And autism isn't that bad, our most intelligent among us are autistic.
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Old 24-07-2012, 09:00 PM   #75
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It has already been proven in court that vaccines are involved with autism you knob, stop spreading disinfo!
My mistake, I thought science was proven in the lab, through research. Please present this information then. I'll bet it's a typical willful mis-interpretation of the information. Standard.
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Old 24-07-2012, 09:16 PM   #76
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Did you not read the article? Vaccines causing autism is the disinformation. And autism isn't that bad, our most intelligent among us are autistic.
That isn't true. Autistics generally score lower on IQ tests, as low as 70%. You probably mean aspergers. A form of autism, but it's as different as night and day. Aspergers tend to score at least average intelligence, though many score higher. However, the lack of social skills and inability to make friends and function socially is hardly a smart skill set.

Some argue that high functioning autism and aspergers are not the same thing. This is splitting hairs.

Unless you are on the margins, aspergers and autism are disabilities. Not all aspergers or autistics are savants, though many have talents.

You seem to be confused. But it's ok, I am no expert either, though I did do a dissertation on it.

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Old 24-07-2012, 09:22 PM   #77
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That isn't true. Autistics generally score lower on IQ tests, as low as 70% or lower. You probably mean aspergers. A form of autism, but it's as different as night and day. Aspergers tend to score at least average intelligence, though many score higher. However, the lack of social skills and inability to make friends and function socially is hardly a smart skill set.

Some argue that high functioning autism and aspergers are not the same thing. This is splitting hairs.

Unless you are on the margins, aspergers and autism are disabilities. Not all aspergers or autistics are savants.

You seem to be confused. But it's ok, I am no expert either, though I did do a dissertation on it.
I have Aspergers. I've done a lot of research on it. Many famous/intelligent people have had that.
I've also looked into general autism. The iq tests do not capture their abilities. They have knowledge in other fields that is not understood by neurotypicals.
I have to disagree about the social skills. I'm not hopeless, i have friends, and i can function perfectly well.
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Old 24-07-2012, 09:34 PM   #78
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I have Aspergers. I've done a lot of research on it. Many famous/intelligent people have had that.
I've also looked into general autism. The iq tests do not capture their abilities. They have knowledge in other fields that is not understood by neurotypicals.
I have to disagree about the social skills. I'm not hopeless, i have friends, and i can function perfectly well.
My friend, I have aspergers also. Albeit mildly, apparently. I was also a teacher in a school for aspergers and autistics. I have done a lot of research on it also.

Some aspergers have skills, some are savants, not all. Not understood by neurotypicals? I don't want to debate that because it is silly. Some famous people are SAID to be aspergers. However, since Einstein and Sir Isaac Newton are dead, we can only speculate.

My social skills are lacking but I also have friends, and with age I have developed wisdom, and so I can be pretty normal, whatever normal is. I'm hopeless with general chit chat though. I'd rather talk about facts, or hi-fi.

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Old 24-07-2012, 09:36 PM   #79
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Vaccines don't cause autism, we know this for pretty much absolute fact.

As for the others, why don't you get some numbers out to compare chances of serious side effects of vaccines vs serious chances of illness from unvaccinated illness? I'll be right here.
Pretty much absolute fact? what a strange statement.

Vaccines cause all manner of disabilities, including ASD,massive brain damage, bowel problems, incontinence,advanced bone age,tight achiles tendons,OCD. I know this because my son has all of them caused by the DTP.
Would you like to come and care for him for the day and then tell me that vaccines dont cause autism and many other serious disabilities?

He is not alone either, we are, and have been, in contact with many many families in the same boat, it is almost an epidemic.

MOst ailments covered by vaccines are easy for the body to fight if the body is healthy.
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Old 24-07-2012, 09:41 PM   #80
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Absolutely an epidemic.

I spent 8 years as a teacher. A modern mainstream school will have perhaps 3 diagnosed aspergers per 30 students. This was not the situation I grew up with in the 80's. Even when accounting for the fact that aspergers didn't become a formal DSM IV diagnosis until 1994, and so many before this date went undiagnosed, aspergers has seemingly become an epidemic.
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