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Old 27-02-2010, 12:54 AM   #41
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It's easy to survive and be healthy and even healthier than a person on a meat based diet if your a vegetarian these days, as many fruit and vegetables are so readily available now and because of that you can have a well balance vegetarian diet that provides all the sufficient nutrients. Now if we go back one hundred years or more, this wouldn't be the case, so meat was an essential part of the diet as it provided some the nutrients that were lacking from human diets, because of the lack of a wide range of different fruits and vegetables.

Considering how intelligent humans are suppose to be, I find it quite primitive that will still kill other animals to eat, effectively taking away that animals right to life.
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Old 27-02-2010, 01:16 AM   #42
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It's easy to survive and be healthy and even healthier than a person on a meat based diet if your a vegetarian these days, as many fruit and vegetables are so readily available now and because of that you can have a well balance vegetarian diet that provides all the sufficient nutrients. Now if we go back one hundred years or more, this wouldn't be the case, so meat was an essential part of the diet as it provided some the nutrients that were lacking from human diets, because of the lack of a wide range of different fruits and vegetables.

Considering how intelligent humans are suppose to be, I find it quite primitive that will still kill other animals to eat, effectively taking away that animals right to life.

YEP AND YA DONT NEED GUNS FOR THEM EITHER

I personally would eat an animal if I needed it to survive , but not before a good healthy prey for the life force I take with respect .

When one has a vast knowledge of plant food hunting almost becomes obsolete .
Hunt only when absolutely needed , life or death as they say .





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Old 27-02-2010, 03:31 PM   #43
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entrangermercenary I have to tell you before this keeps going on and on . I Know how to profesionally use a weapon or two , this includes from the bottom
Air pistals
air rifles
33 Bren
7.62mm ( both SLR and GPMG )
SA80 ( 5.52mm)
and yes ( the amreican M16 )
Sub machine guns
Milan anti tank
USAGE of Clamor and other party poppers. Including home made ones .

and just a bit more like
cross bows
sling shots
bow and arrow
I even know how to make a cross bow out of tent poles and make them my self .

so can you now see why I do not go on and on about guns ? why dont you make a thread about guns and rifles and I will get involved and tell all I know .I will do what I can to bring as much info as possible to it which will include personal experience .

But this thread isnt about GUNS ,

This thread is about hunting animals , how natural it is and , how a good hunter is in tune with nature .



but,


but



I know , but ?




BUT



Every body razzle dazzle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7o9g...eature=related

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Err where have I mentioned guns on this thread


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to bare hand it as they say , start from scratch
like finding flint and making an axe from that .
one couldlearn how to make a home made cross bow eventually but that takes time . spears , axes , cross bows , throwing spears that use sticks to launch , all need to be learned .


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firstly it was you who brought the use of flint weapons up, fuck all to do with me !!! Explain to me the scenario you think you may find yourself in that you will have to start from scratch without the use of even a knife. ???

But but but !!!

While your busy finding the flint for your flint axe Ill just have a look at what the nice fly tippers have left and what I can use on the burnt out cars to make an axe /weapon/

You see its about thinking outside the box, that is why I mentioned the fly tipping but you could not think like that !!! That is what is called adaptability, ...so you spend several weeks making a flint axe

Cple of more points I may just pull you up on if I may

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many years ago I was in the army but as you ca understand , survivalism isnt army training .
even the army has to pay for soldiers who wish to go on survivalist courses .
mainly in the army you are trained to take orders , run around alot , dig and ditch hide , and most of the time rations are given to soldiers .
if they wish to do real survivalism they have to go on courses
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Dont know what Reg you served in?? but the army will give you plenty of opportunity to test yourself. From route marches that will test your mental strength to living out doors for a few days in a forest , to doing a stag duty on your jack in the whhooooo Dark woods That's just a normal regiment and not a elite unit/special forces unit.



Are you denying that going through all them things may toughen you up mentally so you know what you are capable off when wet and freezing cold??


When was the last time you was out in the countryside and had a look around ??
I mean lets take the m4 running from London to the other side of neath in Wales. Fair distance that 180plus miles about three and a half hrs driving.

I suggest you do that trip and look at the population along that route and have a look at the scenery.
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Old 27-02-2010, 04:00 PM   #44
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But but but !!!
Are you cross ? Looks like you are trying to comunicate something here .

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While your busy finding the flint for your flint axe Ill just have a look at what the nice fly tippers have left and what I can use on the burnt out cars to make an axe /weapon/
No one said it wasnt a good idea .

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You see its about thinking outside the box, that is why I mentioned the fly tipping but you could not think like that !!! That is what is called adaptability, ...so you spend several weeks making a flint axe
Adaptability yes .It was a smart reply ^^^^^^^^^^very good and shows a real good adaptable mind and ability .


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Cple of more points I may just pull you up on if I may
Dont know what Reg you served in??
This seems to indicate that I do not .
whether you accept my word or not makes no difference to me .

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but the army will give you plenty of opportunity to test yourself. From route marches that will test your mental strength to living out doors for a few days in a forest , to doing a stag duty on your jack in the whhooooo Dark woods That's just a normal regiment and not a elite unit/special forces unit.
Hm , you seem to have never read any of my survival threads with a least bit of interest
such things like
Citys and towns and when tshtf
escape and evasion of tracker dogs and handlers
and others that I have written through experience .
some of which you will find is a bit more than a simple Joe squaddy.
but that matters not to me neither does it if you accept it or not its all -----------ARMY .
lets face facts , concerning military protocols etc , you know next to nothing expecially about the elite .
until then my good fellow , you can not remark about experience you have never had .

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Are you denying that going through all them things may toughen you up mentally so you know what you are capable off when wet and freezing cold??
but -----------I didnt say this -----------but --------------------you are !

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When was the last time you was out in the countryside and had a look around ??
I mean lets take the m4 running from London to the other side of neath in Wales. Fair distance that 180plus miles about three and a half hrs driving.

I suggest you do that trip and look at the population along that route and have a look at the scenery.
Ok , shall do .

You seem to say a lot about what you think im saying rather than reading what i am saying and it is actually getting tiresome . You seem to do a lot of --------- "are you saying" ----or----- "are you denying" .

well No actually I'm not saying any of it ! denying any of it etc etc ! not realy !

Please stop implying things that are not there . All of that comes from you ,---------------- not me .


It,s a lovely day though . So how has your day been ?

For me , I have been repotting plants all morning to arrive on this forum finding you in an offish slant upon my posts .

are you feeling OK ?

Its the weekend , relax , there are only two days in a weekend and it seems like your not having any fun .

here is a nice tune for the day .

hope it cheers you up .

and still does not change the fact that this thread is about how hunting is part of the natural oder of nature .

just saying ..

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Old 28-02-2010, 04:36 PM   #46
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hhm , It would seem like this thread has been used in a classical way .
when read , one can purely see in this link how this thread was used .

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...=105839&page=2

its a shame that we here have seen to have been infultrated by a fire starter .
gaslighters is the term used in gangstalking .

as we know gangstalking is a government activity who use specialists to discredit folks .

beware .

Lol Like it. Well when we ran a profile check on you(GCHQ) guess what it came back as ??

If captured deport asap to Fantasy Island Do not supply tent as he will use the tent poles to make a crossbow. Remove all flint in case a flint axe could be shaped
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Old 28-02-2010, 05:01 PM   #47
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Point of information for the uninformed.

People that shoot/hunt/stalk/fish are far more in touch with the natural order of life and nature than people who don't.

Wild animals are free range. They have a totally natural life.
A pheasant shot on a rough shoot has had a better time on this planet than a super market chicken (by the way chickens don't actually grow in fridges-honest)

People who are critical of country sports, yet still eat meat, are kidding themselves and in my opinion are hypocrites.

A true hunter has the utmost respect for his quarry, he has learnt its ways and studied it, without this knowledge nature would not reward him with a kill.

Eating meat is natural 100%. Hunting is also natural to the human animal.

Waylander
Good post!

Wild caught animals are the only truly organic foods.

The next best thing is to rear your own animals. I have moved away from rearing lots of livestock in recent years and only hold enough now for family & close friends. When you farm animals you begin to get in touch with the thought processes our ancestors in the fertile crescent must have gone through..

Hang on a minute.. they might have said..
If I take a calf off one of these beasts and keep it until its fat I can stop wandering about endlessly hunting, build a more permanent camp & relax on the river doing a bit of fishing
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Old 28-02-2010, 06:17 PM   #48
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Lol Like it. Well when we ran a profile check on you(GCHQ) guess what it came back as ??

If captured deport asap to Fantasy Island Do not supply tent as he will use the tent poles to make a crossbow. Remove all flint in case a flint axe could be shaped


thats quite funny .

I still excorsize my right to re-edit any post I make entrangermercenary .

I still have respect for people who grab opotunities for peace .

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thats quite funny .

I still excorsize my right to re-edit any post I make entrangermercenary .

I still have respect for people who grab opotunities for peace .

Oh so im not a gang stalker now then lol. Peace with you..I have never been at war with you.

What I wont have is people with no fucking experience, people who wont answer pms (WAS 5 DAYS NOT ENUFF TO ANSWER) telling me the quickest way to my death by following your advice

So on you go with your deluded fantasy...thats one less competitor who is going to try and nick my stores or encroach on my area of operations.

And just for your info the site below is not my blog PMSL Its a site that gives a run down on special forces capabilities . As far as I know its an American sight who knows .

You need to learn to read... and comprehend the information being given you

http://www.specialoperations.com/For...n/2nd_Para.htm
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Oh so im not a gang stalker now then lol. Peace with you..I have never been at war with you.

What I wont have is people with no fucking experience, people who wont answer pms (WAS 5 DAYS NOT ENUFF TO ANSWER) telling me the quickest way to my death by following your advice

So on you go with your deluded fantasy...thats one less competitor who is going to try and nick my stores or encroach on my area of operations.

And just for your info the site below is not my blog PMSL Its a site that gives a run down on special forces capabilities . As far as I know its an American sight who knows .

You need to learn to read... and comprehend the information being given you

http://www.specialoperations.com/For...n/2nd_Para.htm

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Old 28-02-2010, 09:40 PM   #51
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And now back to reality .

Despite the fact Ray mears may be a profesional one can see just how easy he makes surival look .
his skills are not over our heads , any one can learn them .

NOTE: I have never seen him with a gun . Have you ?

Remarkable man .

he makes it look allso easy , mainly because he has been doing it for years , but the more you practice the better you become .

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Old 28-02-2010, 10:02 PM   #52
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Here is your chance to make me eat humble pie

Tracker wrote

Hm , you seem to have never read any of my survival threads with a least bit of interest
such things like
Citys and towns and when tshtf
escape and evasion of tracker dogs and handlers
and others that I have written through experience .
some of which you will find is a bit more than asimple Joe squaddy .
but that matters not to me neither does it if you accept it or not its all -----------ARMY .
lets face facts , concerning military protocols etc , you know next to nothing expecially about the elite .
until then my good fellow , you can not remark about experience you have never had
.

So go on share some of your experiences with us while in the elite im all ears

Course I comment on a experience ive never had lol,.

But of course anybody may feel free to pm and Ill put a photo album up on my profile page. Will you do the same ?? Obviously you can blank your face out like ive had to do Hey Ill even throw a cple of videos in as well

Just another little thing to clarify then. When you doing this stuff when you were quote "a bit more than simple Joe squaddy" was this not you as well then

Tracker wrote

something that I think your Rambo special forces backside for a mind is unable to do
no wonder a simple electrician got shot in london .
armed to the bollocks top special ops cops with sepcial ops training ------all shoot shoot shoot .ask questions later .
it also explains why so many kids and inoscent folks died in other countries all thanks to those who plot .
to date ? over 2,000,000 dead .
wow , thats a medal for ya .

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So if you were " a bit more than simple joe squaddy " you must also fall into that catagory. Now im confused
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Old 28-02-2010, 10:09 PM   #53
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ray mears is a good survivalist , we all know .
but have you heard of the woods master ?
hes brilliant .

he made many real to life vids and also made homesteading and urban survival vids too .

google it and get a vid on him , he shows how to make

buttons out of bones
coats out of skin
shows how to mak evarious hunting traps and also gives tips .

his wife is a bit of a babe and she does this stuff with him .

worth getting .

the woodsmaster .
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Here is your chance to make me eat humble pie

Tracker wrote

Hm , you seem to have never read any of my survival threads with a least bit of interest
such things like
Citys and towns and when tshtf
escape and evasion of tracker dogs and handlers
and others that I have written through experience .
some of which you will find is a bit more than asimple Joe squaddy .
but that matters not to me neither does it if you accept it or not its all -----------ARMY .
lets face facts , concerning military protocols etc , you know next to nothing expecially about the elite .
until then my good fellow , you can not remark about experience you have never had
.

So go on share some of your experiences with us while in the elite im all ears

Course I comment on a experience ive never had lol,.

But of course anybody may feel free to pm and Ill put a photo album up on my profile page. Will you do the same ?? Obviously you can blank your face out like ive had to do Hey Ill even throw a cple of videos in as well

Just another little thing to clarify then. When you doing this stuff when you were quote "a bit more than simple Joe squaddy" was this not you as well then

Tracker wrote

something that I think your Rambo special forces backside for a mind is unable to do
no wonder a simple electrician got shot in london .
armed to the bollocks top special ops cops with sepcial ops training ------all shoot shoot shoot .ask questions later .
it also explains why so many kids and inoscent folks died in other countries all thanks to those who plot .
to date ? over 2,000,000 dead .
wow , thats a medal for ya .

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So if you were " a bit more than simple joe squaddy " you must also fall into that catagory. Now im confused

your quite desperate to show how good you are .
why ?
why does it matter to you ?

I was in 3 para , and did many courses , but i do not self proclaim .

give you self a break , stop being a prat .

this topic has now ended !
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I dont need to explain my self to you .

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your quite desperate to show how good you are .
why ?
why does it matter to you ?

I was in 3 para , and did many courses , but i do not self proclaim .

give you self a break , stop being a prat .

this topic has now ended !
Im just telling you exactly what I was, just so people like yourself know why I dont swallow some of the crap you post

So now you know that when you post you may have to do a little bit more research and then think how would that be practicable to adapt in the UK.

See I new some good would come out of it eventually
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Old 28-02-2010, 10:26 PM   #57
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here are a few vids on good survivalists and hunters who stay in tune with nature .
the 1st three are from the woodsmaster and his wife .







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Escape and evasion of tracker dogs and handlers
escort ( if you know what that realy is )
reconasance
body guard


and other courses outside tha armed robots of no think land you called a fkin career .
either way , its all army ,
if its not its navi of cours it could be airforce .

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !

I am not going to go on an ego trip for you to pull down .

now get over your self entrangermercenary .

give ya self a break and fk off !

I have no need to prve my self least of all to you ,
unlike your self here on a massive ego trip .

give this OP some fkn respect !
Now tracker your training is fine and well over 30yrs ago I would imagine.
Recce hey, so you must be pretty clued up on navigation when you cant see the stars or anything in jungle type enviroment and heavy dense woodland. Hey thats good.

Bodyguard as well, dont you mean close protection op. Imean thats what they call themselves. Bodyguard is so passe and one wdnt really call themselves that.
Handlers escort no never come across that. Remember being in a cage tho while they set 1 dog on me and then a minute later another dog. Was dressed up in all the gear, but was warned if I went over they may not be able to get to me in time before they rip my face and throat open.

As for Robots, were you never taught to think quickly on your feet and react accordingly in split seconds. ??

Any way its been a pleasure chatting with you this weekend Keep up the research and lets see what and how survival issues can be adapted to the Uk.
Ive learned a lot about you this weekend

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concerning military protocols etc , you know next to nothing expecially about the elite .
until then my good fellow , you can not remark about experience you have never had


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KABOOOM

BACK TO THE OP NOW

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What does being in the army have to do with anything anyway??????

I can jog 2 mile and do 20 press ups........

No in all seriousness it would be intresting to get some advise from people who are serving or have done in the past.

The issue is survival and imo you should do what ever it takes.

Its good if you can live in nature peacefully though, and be content in your surroundings.....
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Now tracker your training is fine and well over 30yrs ago I would imagine.
Recce hey, so you must be pretty clued up on navigation when you cant see the stars or anything in jungle type enviroment and heavy dense woodland. Hey thats good.

Bodyguard as well, dont you mean close protection op. Imean thats what they call themselves. Bodyguard is so passe and one wdnt really call themselves that.
Handlers escort no never come across that. Remember being in a cage tho while they set 1 dog on me and then a minute later another dog. Was dressed up in all the gear, but was warned if I went over they may not be able to get to me in time before they rip my face and throat open.

As for Robots, were you never taught to think quickly on your feet and react accordingly in split seconds. ??

Any way its been a pleasure chatting with you this weekend Keep up the research and lets see what and how survival issues can be adapted to the Uk.
Ive learned a lot about you this weekend

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concerning military protocols etc , you know next to nothing expecially about the elite .
until then my good fellow , you can not remark about experience you have never had


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KABOOOM

BACK TO THE OP NOW
kaboom ?

body guard was a civil course , something that I thought a good switched on mind would know , it wasnt called close protection OP in my day , and since body guard is a civil thing and close protection OP was called armed escort where I came from , and yes it is old scool and over 20 years , but so what .


look

I have an idea

its best to see me as a fake , a no body , just a JOE , a small time boy with nothing to say , no one to loose sleep over .

I prefure it this way .

and on that note ,lets hope now we both have an understanding .

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