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Old 19-10-2008, 08:35 PM   #61
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Interesting thread tracker. Thanks.
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Old 19-10-2008, 09:57 PM   #62
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Interesting thread tracker. Thanks.
no problem steevo .
it is basic i know but having read your thread about mobiles and having to use pasports to get one , i had to bump my thread .

i will admit i will still have my old one and im sure one day they will just lock the sim .
but then i know folks who unlock them .
not only that , as someone has mentioned

we could use analogue cbs .

i will have a phone , but it will stay mostly turned off and surrounded by a metal box for most of my time .

i will only take it out if i go on important journies , or a family day out incase of an accident .

maybe .
as usuall , other members of public have them too , i could use theirs .

when the new law comes out about 24 hr servailance , i am kissing the net goodbye .

for ever !
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Old 20-10-2008, 04:41 AM   #63
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Another technique is to use a soundboard of peoples voices who you know. So while monitoring your calls they take snapshots of the conversations. Save these for use at a later date. Then when they are trying to suicide you or entrap you they will call you up and even use caller id spoof. They will then have a short conversations with you using a soundboard of everyone you know to select from. This can also be used to illicit conversations about illegal activity or to as a tool in a process of normalisation of anti social behaviour.
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Old 20-10-2008, 07:30 AM   #64
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Another technique is to use a soundboard of peoples voices who you know. So while monitoring your calls they take snapshots of the conversations. Save these for use at a later date. Then when they are trying to suicide you or entrap you they will call you up and even use caller id spoof. They will then have a short conversations with you using a soundboard of everyone you know to select from. This can also be used to illicit conversations about illegal activity or to as a tool in a process of normalisation of anti social behaviour.

holy crap !

what you mean is

at any time

they can take snap shots of my voice and sentances

and manufacture a complete lie out of them ?

poooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !
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Old 20-10-2008, 07:58 AM   #65
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holy crap !

what you mean is

at any time

they can take snap shots of my voice and sentances

and manufacture a complete lie out of them ?

poooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !

That technology has been happening for years - all you need is like 10 seconds of conversation and a computer can then replicate your voice!
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Old 20-10-2008, 08:00 AM   #66
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That technology has been happening for years - all you need is like 10 seconds of conversation and a computer can then replicate your voice!
do you know what ?
out of all my ideas and experiences , and knowledge aswell as imagination , how on earth i missed this out goes beyond me .

doh !
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Old 20-10-2008, 07:00 PM   #67
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If you really have to communicate with complete security, use "One-Time Code Pads" - http://www.fourmilab.ch/onetime/otpjs.html

If you use the Google search engine, switch to an anonymous search engine like "Scroogle" instead.
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Old 20-10-2008, 07:23 PM   #68
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If you use the Google search engine, switch to an anonymous search engine like "Scroogle" instead.
Is anything on the net truly anonymous these days?
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Old 20-10-2008, 07:40 PM   #69
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Is anything on the net truly anonymous these days?
Probably not, but if you're sending e-mail using OTC pads, nobody else will be reading your mail (or at least know what you're saying).
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Old 20-10-2008, 09:11 PM   #70
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Is anything on the net truly anonymous these days?

well if they are they wont be for long thats for sure .
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:01 AM   #71
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a rescent thread called

Sticky: Britains Mindless Changes.In side The Mad House.

has got some real trouble informing info on it about servailance over the phone .

it says in a crux that authorities now use a voice analiser to asses whether people lie about them self .
this has resulted in thousands having their benifits taken from them just because a machine asesses them as a wrisk .
but !!!!!!!!!!!!
what about mentaliy ill or parranoid people ?
self asteme deficiencies etc ?
what about those already upset because their money has gone down etc ???????????????????

those bstrds are really playing the game now .



[SIZE="4"]how to defend your self from this trap ![/SIZE]


steps of prevention to stop big bro analsising your feelings .


1 ) always stay calm !
if you dont , this will show a raise in temprament and angsiety , to a machine this could be mistaken for a tell tail sign of a lier .
when people talk sometimes they dont realise that their own pitch of tone raises and lowers as they talk .
keep an ear open to how you talk , pitch tone can give alot away to some one who knows what to look for .

Stay focused !
very inportant indeed !
why ?
because they will change the line of conversation many times . also , once during a phone call to Hm Taxes about my working tax credits being stopped .
i noted how the lady asked me for all my details , allmy ( more so ) private details , then near the end she cought me by surprise and asked how much my last payment was exactly . i told her i didnt have my bank statement on me and she then said
"well im inclined to keep it posponed because you are unable to give me the last payment detail"
i replied
"so your telling me , because i might have shredded my last bank statement , that after giving you all my details , my security details , that you are now not going to pay me ???????????"

she was very clever at this .
just as soon as i finished saying that i recalled the fact that i hadnt shredded it and asked the lady ( Sharon the land lady ) to kindly get my bank statement from the kitchen window , and now listen to how she reacted . the lady on the phone then said this .

"dont be rude there is no need for that language to me"

i replied
"excuse me lady on the phone , were you just talking to me ? i sincerely hope not or i will make complaint to your superviser about your abnoctiouse intent to make me appear unreasonable and rude to you , when indeed i had said nothing to you what so ever , i also named Sharon who lives here , atwhich i asked her to kindly get my bank statement from the kitchen window . On this note i will ask you . Are you trying to infuriate me with a false acusation ? Are you trying to show off to some one your end who i cannot see ? Or are you trying to make me apear unreasonable for no reason other than gaining points for believeing you have spotted a fraud ?
iether way kind lady , i will now refuse to make this a debate because this is not why i have phoned you , to which now , your actions on this phone has proved you to be totally unreasonable and rather abusive of your position . i am about to put the phone down now , i strongly surguest you sort this out , have a good day ."


2 months later i was billed for £264 case closed before i could even reply .


these are tactics that will be used upon you if you do not learn to see how they play you .
my mistake was putting down the phone , so make no mistake your self
they will play you , so stay focused and remember rule 1 , stay calm at all times .
i stayed calm but finished the call too soon , i should have stayed on to make sure it was done properly , i didnt !

they play you and even some times insinuate something you havent done so be aware not to rise to the occasion !

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Old 05-11-2008, 10:33 AM   #72
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brilliant thread tracker!! lots of good sugestions by you and wazaap! the time for action will be upon us shortly i feel.....
the only true action you can do is be observant , stay alert and wait quitely , making too much fuss will get you noticed and targeted , the reason why i say this is because many still believe that standing up and shouting is the way to appear unafraid etc , yet sheep just dont want to be anything but sheep . we have to face that fact that many do not want things to change .
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:14 AM   #73
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If you want to be serious about this and really stick up for your rights this is the steps you MUST take. Or you are contributing to the hoax.

1) Get rid of all identification
2) Make a notice of understanding and intent a claim of right to the government. Making it clear you are not operating under any law system as a free person of the land. (you must get help doing this or research it the point is do not suscribe to any laws currently under operation.)

One you have done this and it is not disputed you get a notice saying that is the agreement (and it wont be disputed people have already done it, it's your right as a person) you are then a free person once again.

Now that you are operating in reality something serious becomes apparant.

*nearly everything in society demands a registration, application of some kind that gives your rights away

*It becomes very difficult if not impossible to operate in society. It becomes obvious why people are so controlled due to this fact. You have discovered the source of the problem. You are awake and you see the dream everyone is living in.


If you are serious you must survive this way and stop giving your rights away to survive. Whatever it takes. Then this camera monitoring business will not effect you because you will not have agreed to the laws and the system that put it in place.

By this time you are not on any land that is government regulated and you are not suscribed to most of society. You have your own power, your own food, your own home. Your life is yours. You become a free human.

This is the intention everyone should have right now. This is my intention.

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Old 14-11-2008, 03:23 PM   #74
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If you want to be serious about this and really stick up for your rights this is the steps you MUST take. Or you are contributing to the hoax.

1) Get rid of all identification
2) Make a notice of understanding and intent a claim of right to the government. Making it clear you are not operating under any law system as a free person of the land. (you must get help doing this or research it the point is do not suscribe to any laws currently under operation.)

One you have done this and it is not disputed you get a notice saying that is the agreement (and it wont be disputed people have already done it, it's your right as a person) you are then a free person once again.

Now that you are operating in reality something serious becomes apparant.

*nearly everything in society demands a registration, application of some kind that gives your rights away

*It becomes very difficult if not impossible to operate in society. It becomes obvious why people are so controlled due to this fact. You have discovered the source of the problem. You are awake and you see the dream everyone is living in.


If you are serious you must survive this way and stop giving your rights away to survive. Whatever it takes. Then this camera monitoring business will not effect you because you will not have agreed to the laws and the system that put it in place.

By this time you are not on any land that is government regulated and you are not suscribed to most of society. You have your own power, your own food, your own home. Your life is yours. You become a free human.

This is the intention everyone should have right now. This is my intention.
it sounds very good but im quite sure the action and conclusions will be quite hard to achieve as you have alread said in another way that i would need a specialist to help me , but i think doing what you have said will only bring more bad attention towards me if you get my drift .

however , i will think about what you have said carefully and will look into it because i also know that being taxed today is currently ilegal because HM taxes is operating as a business , and since that is so it there fore makes any tax department fraudulent for taking money from you because taxes and tax departments have to be operating for the government and are not supposed to be operating as a business because thats technically ilegal !





however getting back to this thread issue , because i have side tracked not you ,

the idea that our voices are now being anylised by a stress anylising computer is horrific .

people in a northern town are now being armed with speed guns too to catch locals speeding .
when they are cought though , the people who were speeding only a get a warning , so its not as if this action and tactic actually produces anything other than training to be a big brother operative in the future .

Britain is doomed . Its too late , its now so far in the shit all we can do is say farewell ,.
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Old 14-11-2008, 03:54 PM   #75
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its only when the bio chip comes in that things will get really hard , and believe me we will all be in the shit when that happens .

you wont be even able to go to the shops with out a satalite knowing where you are .
this means we will have to find a way not to be monitored and that will mean hightech equioment and satalite jamming systems .

its going to get harder , thats for sure .
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Old 14-11-2008, 04:28 PM   #76
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Ok this is great advice.

im a it wiz kid i also work in voice recording.

i suggest - use phone boxes away from your home. THEY CAN ALWAYS TRACE YOU.

all this only stay on the phone for 3 mins as that is how long it takes to track you is crap.

they KNOW!!!

EVERY PHONE IS RECORDED!!! mobile or land line EVERY PHONE.

satellite phones are the same there is no such thing as a secure line.

on the audio side of things get a wifi detector - a good one for about £35. these detect wireless devices.

it is very hard and expensive to search for wired bugs, but wireless ones are easy.


when it comes to your computer.

your IP address is like your home post code. it is traceable to the computer.

you can use "iphider" software - they slow down the tracing - there is also anonomys stuff out there.


The best way to avoid being caught on the net is to use a pay as you go phone with 3g capability as a modem - make sure the mobile is not got your name anywhere on it - also don't pay for it by card or in a shop neer survalience etc...

pay as you go mobiles are cheap and deadly to the NWO - this is how off the grid people operate.

never talk about anything on them - always talk about "nursery rimes and fairy's" stuff like this can be organized and you can communicate just well with this.

Anything can be used as long as it is very innocent.

to avoid security cameras wear hoodies and baseball caps - cover your eyes and they have most peoples eyes on database.

There are eye readers everywhere (don't try to look for them as you wont find them)

Where surgical gloves as much as possible - if anyone asks say you have skin disiease on your hands. this is not ileagle not even a police officer can make you remove them.


A voice changer can be good also - simply place it on your throat and talk down the phone.

i don't do any of this as i really don't care who knows what i know and who is watching me - im watching them.

I see myself as a sleeper cell.
i have made a list of them things , and taken good note . thank you wazaaap .
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