Money as debt (please watch x 100)

[jon galt]

Originally Posted by angelthecat

I think that the state of the alleged economy is proof alone that nothing is running as intended, and that would probable include diction [that depends what your definition of 'IS' is]

Clintons misunderstood quote: he asserted in court under oath "there's nothing going on between us". he was accused of perjury. And sucessfully argued that 'is' is present tense, at at the time he said it was being truthful. he 'had' been in a relationship (with lewinski), but it ended. confusing the matter is that, many stautes that use 'is' are also interprated to mean 'had'. IE the police can arrest a person who is committing a crime, could potential be interprated to include those who had commited a crime. Its not that complex or some legal code, it is just using past and present tense.

[blighty]

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Expose

[vegan_on_the_land]

A new series has started on BBC Radio 4 at 1.45pm. It is in 10 parts so will be on from Monday to Friday this week and next. It is called: Promises, Promises: a History of Debt.

It is described thus: 'American anthropologist David Graeber explores the ways in which debt has shaped society. He begins by examining the moral power it holds over people.'

The first programme was an introductory one and was very interesting, linking bankers, the mafia and warlords together as people who profit from debt. It might be available on iPlayer.

It should be on iPlayer because they are advertising episodes that haven't been broadcast yet:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/search?q=promises%2C%20promises

[herzmeister]

yeah Graeber is a must-read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt:_...rst_5000_Years



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkou85ToyC4

he's an anthropologist, and his work is very consistent (to a degree, he just wont "go there", only to what he can very well reason and prove) with many conspiracy theories and ancient myths (first occurence of silver money was in the temples of Mesopotamia, Sitchin anyone?), and oh, because this is the FMOTL forum, yes, that too, he basically says we're all slaves.

[raburgeson]

Look out people on both sides of the fence. USA is talking about printing new money. For this worthless paper and ink we are to be indebted to the IMF and pay interest to them. The word bank, the the very top tier of the bank mobsters are trying to make a final financial coup on the US. I'm going to keep saying this to drive it in people. Only except gold and silver coin. It has it's own value and you will never need pay interest on it. Even ISIS has gold coins, wake up!

[raburgeson]

Look at the idiot banksters and the crooked government. Oh we had a good period of growth and the economy needs to grow more. Grew what more debt? Fiat money is a trap on the people. They can print it and inflate and deflate it at will. Global money is a trap for governments. First you have to print enough to money to be used by the entire world. Second you have to stand good for global forfeitures. I'm watching the BRICKS banks because they are falling for the same hook and sinker. This is why the rich get richer, because they have the best bull shit globally. Oh that's not good enough let us take control of it and then countries, and then finally you. Well they have owned you for decades and now it is time to carry gold and silver coin. Your birth certificate is nothing but a debt. Wake up and quit being manipulated. There is no money, only promissory notes and you can do a million dollars worth of work and you cannot set one dollar free. It is still debt. The government will not take this crooked system down, you have to do it. Use those dollars to slowly change over to precious metals and work at it until you can get rid of the promissory notes. This will put and end to the banksters and economic slavery.

[alisa2]

[alisa2]

Got a word yesterday that IRS is acting as third party debt collector for students loans. If you've defaulted on your student loan, IRS will intercept and deduct the amount owed from your tax refund. If the tax refund is not enough to cover the amount owed, expect the next year's refund to be intercepted too. A lady at work was telling me about it- her daughter was expecting a refund and instead... got a letter.

[alisa2]

[alisa2]

What we need are public (not private) banks. The States need to have their own printing press so they can issue public credit. Get rid of the private bankers.

[alisa2]

Public banks would be State banks. The States always had the sole right to issue money, not the feds.

The Role of Money, by Frederick Soddy:

"It was recognized in Athens and Sparta ten centuries before the birth of Christ that one of the most vital prerogatives of the State was the sole right to issue money. How curious that the unique quality of this prerogative is only now being re-discovered [really?, when?]. The “money-power” which has been able to overshadow ostensibly responsible government, is not the power of the merely ultra-rich, but is nothing more nor less than a new technique designed to create and destroy money by adding and withdrawing figures in bank ledgers, without the slightest concern for the interests of the community or the real role that money ought to perform therein. …

[alisa2]

Ron Paul: Do you think gold is money? Ben Bernanke: Pause, then, No.

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