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Old 15-12-2014, 01:43 PM   #121
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2. That the media report that it is an IS attack on Australia
It'd be just as well if this was to be the countdown signal for Operation Lone Jihadi, and the media are being used themselves, for a change.
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Old 15-12-2014, 01:43 PM   #122
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Old 15-12-2014, 01:46 PM   #123
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There were three videos with three different hostages appearing in them
The demands were the same each time
1. An IS flag to be delivered to the location
2. That the media report that it is an IS attack on Australia
3. Contact with tony abbot on a live feed
Also referenced were explosive devices placed in other areas of the city
Yep

The hostages stated that the hostage taker wanted to talk with Tony Abbott and in return he'd release five hostages. That there were bombs planted in various parts of the central business district. That the hostage taker was claiming allegiance to ISIS and wanted an Islamic State flag.
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Old 15-12-2014, 01:48 PM   #124
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I'm watching CNBC right now, and a reporter said that the guy in the store, the hostage taker, is out on bail, so, he has been real close to police.

Said he is from Iran, a fugitive, with an extensive criminal history...

Who better to set up for a false flag..

Australia seems to have been missing the US/Commonwealth false flag events, unless you count MH370.

I notice this caused the Central bank in Sydney to be locked down..hmm
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There were three videos with three different hostages appearing in them. The demands were the same each time.

1. An IS flag to be delivered to the location
2. That the media report that it is an IS attack on Australia
3. Contact with tony abbot on a live feed

Also referenced were explosive devices placed in other areas of the city.
Now there's a new one.

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Now there's a new one.
What, wanting to talk to someone on the phone?
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What, wanting to talk to someone on the phone?
No, the live internet feed with the 'supposed' top dog.
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Sidney based Sheikh Haron is a fake. He isnt an islam educated muslim nor is he a sheikh.
http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php...e-sheikh-haron

That matter of fact had been revealed already back in 2013.
But then, why is he that prominent all over australian media?

Perhaps because they know that he's a setup crisis actor?
Perhaps he's a secret service agent? Maybe Australian secret service or else some foreign secret service agent.
Nevertheless, that guy is a fake but no muslim sheikh.
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Old 15-12-2014, 02:12 PM   #131
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“I said ‘watch where you are f***ing going’."

Lol charming bloke.

So this may sound daft, but surely our lone wolf isn't going to be sleeping tonight? Has there been anything on social media from people who have realised they know any of the hostages still inside
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No, the live internet feed with the 'supposed' top dog.
Can't recall it ever happening before
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I'm watching CNBC right now, and a reporter said that the guy in the store, the hostage taker, is out on bail, so, he has been real close to police.

Said he is from Iran, a fugitive, with an extensive criminal history...

Who better to set up for a false flag..

Australia seems to have been missing the US/Commonwealth false flag events, unless you count MH370.

I notice this caused the Central bank in Sydney to be locked down..hmm
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Haron

Read my other post. Sheikh Haron is fake. He isnt an educated muslim nor a sheikh. He is fake and he works for a western or jewish secret service. Muslim organisations doubted already back in 2013 if he's even a muslim or rather a jew pretending to act as a muslim.

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php...e-sheikh-haron
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Yes, then it would certainly qualify as a 'new one' then. Cheers. :luv:
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So then we are having a "muslim fake" sheikh (who had been revealed as a FAKE and as a non muslim already back in 2013 by several imams and by australian muslim organisations) today taking 15 crisis actors as hostages (on dec 15th) while 5 were able to flee (5-15-15) on Martin (war) place while Tony Abbot tested police.

And topping that, the crisis actor "terrorist" is an "iranian shia" due to his wikipedia page who wants a sunni ISIS flag?????? Did he want to burn that flag??? He's neither shia nor sunni, australian muslim organisations had revealed in 2013. he's a fake, obviously working for a certain secret service.

you simply cannot make this up. This is ridiculous!

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So then we are having a "muslim fake" sheikh (who had been revealed as a FAKE and as a non muslim already back in 2013 by several imams and by australian muslim organisations) today taking 15 crisis actors as hostages (on dec 15th) while 5 were able to flee (5-15-15) on Martin (war) place while Tony Abbot tested police.

And topping that, the crisis actor "terrorist" is an "iranian shia" due to his wikipedia page who wants a sunni ISIS flag?????? Did he want to burn that flag??? He's neither shia nor sunni, australian muslim organisations had revealed in 2013. he's a fake, obviously working for a certain secret service.

you simply cannot make this up. This is ridiculous!
lol, good post! I'm starting to sense a hint of desperado from the NWO..

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Old 15-12-2014, 02:40 PM   #137
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Whilst not approving or condoning violence of any kind for 5, 6 ,SB et al`s benefit and mine LOL. I think all this FF & Fake "the 3 F`s" crying is EXACTLY what tptb want people to think. That way any protest is completely diluted. In fact, the point of it all is destroyed. People on CT sites should really wise up.
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I'm watching CNBC right now, and a reporter said that the guy in the store, the hostage taker, is out on bail, so, he has been real close to police.

Said he is from Iran, a fugitive, with an extensive criminal history...

Who better to set up for a false flag..

Australia seems to have been missing the US/Commonwealth false flag events, unless you count MH370.

I notice this caused the Central bank in Sydney to be locked down..hmm
MH17 was full of Auzies....
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Maybe he's disgruntled after getting sentenced to community service

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...d7b66e8e88fc72

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I am posting this before that link disappears from the www:



http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php...e-sheikh-haron

The fake Sheikh Haron

by Sheila Musaji


There is a despicable character in Australia claiming to be a Sheikh, and engaging in disgusting behavior.  He sent a letter to the parents of Private Luke Worsely in which he claimed to be an Islamic leader, “Sheikh Haron”, taunting them on the day they buried their son.

Austrolabe published this article on 12/6/2007:

There is nothing more precious than one’s children; for a parent to lose a child must cause pain beyond imagining. It must therefore have been extremely distressing for the parents of Private Luke Worsely to receive a letter purporting to be from an Islamic leader, “Sheikh Haron”, taunting them on the day they buried their son. A copy of the same letter was sent to News Limited, extracts of which they published online.

It remains to be asked: who is “Sheikh Haron”? To begin with, the sheikh would be more convincing (as a Muslim) if he could spell his own name correctly. “Haron” is how I would imagine an imbecile not conversant with Muslim names would spell “Harun’ or Haroon”, the Arabic equivalent of the Hebrew “Aaron“. It resembles the comical fraud perpetrated by Liberal Party goon squad in the seat of Lindsay. How could one forget the “ALA AKBA” which resembled Alo Alo, more than Allah Hu Akbar.

The mystery of the fake sheikh is further clarified by a visit to his webpage. For a religious Muslim, it is clear that Sheikh Haron is fraudulent.

1. He does not begin with “In the name of Allah, the most beneficent, the most merciful….” It would be impossible for a religious scholar to fail to do so.

2. The fatwa section is the real giveaway.  Firstly, the questions that are posed: they’re strange questions to ask a scholar. Muslims never ask scholars about who to vote for (that’s what anti-Muslim bigots imagine we do).

3. But his responses are the most bizarre. A religious scholar gives a fatwa, or religious opinion, the same way a QC gives a legal opinion: in a highly ordered and codified manner, quoting verses from the Qur’an and Hadith, and offering religious consensus before finally coming to the scholar’s own opinion. The author, however, is not conversant with Islam and therefore cannot do so, and so merely has written a short response from an opinion that he believes reflects Islamic doctrine.

4. Sheikh “Haron” has no surname, no telephone number, no address, and nobody in the Muslim community knows him. The author has designed this to be an opaque identity.

5. The media release section contain the letters the author has sent to various officials. However, the responses that the author has allegedly received from public figures are not on letterheads, nor have they been signed, nor indeed is there room in the letter template for a signature. They are clearly forgeries generated by the author of the site.

6. His “fatwas” are all, without exception, completely wrong — and wrong in the most infantile manner. For example:

“The people who say that Jesus (peace be upon him) is “God” or “son of God” or they call God “Father” are Mushriks, not Christians. We are not allowed to call them “Christian”.”

This is incorrect. The Qur’an defines Christians as those people of the Book who believe that Jesus is the Son of God.

7. He appears to believe he is being followed and monitored where ever he goes.  He also seems to subscribe to a weird crackpot theory that the Australian government are hacking Google to give Muslims a bad name.  Neither instill much confidence.

8. Religious scholars don’t normally spam government departments with strange requests and allegations.

The author of the Sheikh Haron site is obviously not a religious scholar, and has designed it to perpetrate a fraud and cast a cloud over the Muslim community. He has intruded, in a most obscene manner, into the private grief of parents who have lost their son, and he has embarrassed the gullible editors of the New Limited website.


UPDATE 12/30/2007

Richard Kerbaj in the Australian reports Sheik ‘faked’ to stir up ill-feeling:

The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils has urged Sheik Haron - who ambiguously claims on his website to be a “small soldier” - to identify himself and stop exploiting freedom of speech to attack mainstream Australia under the banner of Islam.

AFIC president Ikebal Patel said Muslim leaders feared Sheik Haron - whose website provides no insight into his identity or religious qualifications - would encourage other members of the public to adopt the persona of an Islamic spiritual leader for the sake of whipping up controversy.  Mr Patel said dozens of senior Muslim spiritual leaders from around the country - including Australian National Imams Council executives - have been quizzed about the identity of Sheik Haron, but to no avail.  ...


UPDATE 2/5/2008

Richard Kerbaj in the Australian reports that there is a Call to probe mystery Shia cleric:

FEDERAL agents have been urged by the nation’s senior Shia leader, Kamal Mousselmani, to investigate an Iranian man purporting to be a prominent Islamic cleric.  
  
Sheik Mousselmani told The Australian yesterday the mystery cleric - who has been identified as Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi on his website after appearing under the name Sheik Haron - was not a genuine Shia spiritual leader.

He said there were no ayatollahs - supreme Shia scholars - in Australia and none of his fellow spiritual leaders knew who Ayatollah Boroujerdi or Sheik Haron was.

“We don’t know him and we have got nothing to do with him,” Sheik Mousselmani said. “The federal police should investigate who he is. It should be their responsibility.”

Sheik Haron, who insulted the family of an Australian soldier killed in Afghanistan in November, was accused by Muslim leaders of being a fake cleric deliberately stirring anti-Islamic sentiment.

Sheik Mousselmani, head of the Supreme Islamic Shia Council of Australia, which represents the nation’s 30,000 Shi’ites, said Sheik Haron’s website - Sheik Haron Web - gave him away as an amateur who knew little about Shia Islam.

“From the way he writes his (fatwas or religious edicts), I don’t think he is Shia Muslim,” Sheik Mousselmani said. “And there are no ayatollahs in Australia.

“We don’t follow, we don’t support and we don’t stand with anyone we don’t know. He’s not one of us.”

Sheik Haron has been identified in a letter on his websites that claims he is of Iranian background and once supported the country’s Islamic revolution against US “oppression”.

“Ayatollah Boroujerdi was supporting Ayatollah Khomeini (leader of the Iranian Islamic revolution) and the Islamic revolution like many others who were against the oppression of the United States of America, but later the direction of the Islamic revolution changed and it was not what the nation expected it to be,” the letter says.

Sheik Haron’s website lists a number of letters he has written to officials and ministers, including one to former attorney-general Philip Ruddock and one to federal police commissioner Mick Keelty.

The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils president Ikebal Patel said yesterday the body’s investigation into the cleric last month could not find any information on who Sheik Haron is.  “I know the community very well, and this just doesn’t make sense,” he said. “We couldn’t find anything on the man.”

An Australian blogsite has published more information about this fake sheikh.  It seems that there is an Iranian Ayatollah Seyyed Hossein Kazemeyni Boroujerdi - who is in Iran, not Australia.  They also post photographs of the actual Sheikh and Sheikh Haron, and they are clearly NOT the same person. 


UPDATE 10/25/2009

Irfan Yusuf has published Give us a break, the fake sheik’s not worth the effort:

You’ve heard of tabloid media going after thick sheiks. Now some are even using fake sheiks.

At about 2pm yesterday my office received a message to call someone from Radio 2GB, home to such leading lights of quality journalism as Alan Jones. I called back and spoke to a female who worked with Jason Morrison. She wondered if I knew much about a certain Sheik Haron who had apparently been charged by Federal Police after sending abusive letters to the families of Australian soldiers killed in action in Afghanistan. She wanted to know if I’d be prepared to speak to Morrison on his afternoon Drive Show. I agreed.

Silly me. Morrison seemed less interested in Haron and more interested in why a group of people he described as “Moozlems” didn’t step forward to condemn the man. He wanted to know why he was having so much difficulty getting “Moozlems” to condemn this man on his program (I did remind him that many don’t listen to 2GB). Still he pressed the point about the alleged Muslim conspiracy of silence over Haron.

I said Haron hadn’t been given a huge amount of airplay or coverage (and I wasn’t just talking about the allegedly left-wing trendy “multi-culty”, the Fairfax press and ABC either). Maybe your average Aussie who ticked the Muslim box on his or her census form didn’t see the need to comment on some sheik who, by all accounts (including those of Richard Kerbaj in The Australian in January last year), was little more than a fake.

Even Jeremy Jones, of the Australia-Israel Jewish Affairs Council (AIJAC), was quoted in one Jewish blog as saying that Haron “works alone and has no support”.

And yet somehow fake-sheik Haron was an issue that one journalist described to Kevin Rudd at a press conference yesterday as “the question that’s dominating talkback radio today”. Rudd ended his response to the journalist’s question with: “You know, when you pick up the front page of the Tele today, I think people, I think their stomachs turn.”

The journalist asked Rudd whether he would consider changing Australia’s citizenship laws to allow “someone like that” (like what? Fake-sheik? Iranian? Crazy dude in a turban? Migrant?) to have their citizenship stripped of them and be deported. Rudd was non-committal.

It’s one thing for media outlets to use the rants of a thick sheik to cook up a divisive broth of dog whistles. But why use the imbecilic correspondence of a fake sheik to cast aspersions on 360,000 people, most of whom (including their religious leaders) have never heard of him?

After my interview with Morrison, I telephoned his researcher and asked whether the show had any trouble finding a Muslim to talk on the show. She confirmed that she hadn’t called an Islamic council, an imam, a board of imams or the Community Relations Commission. She did say that Morrison may have tried calling other people about the matter.

He may have. But I somehow doubt it.


UPDATE 8/7/2013

Just how much mileage can Islamophobes get out of a non-story?  Apparently, a lot.  Robert Spencer has just publishedAustralia: Muslim cleric pleads guilty to sending offensive letters to families of Australian soldiers killed in Afghanistan.  Even the article from AAP in Brisbane Spencer refers to as his source for this nonsense clearly refers to “Sheikh Haron” as a “self-styled Muslim cleric” whose real name is Man Haron Monis.  However, fact-checking is not the Islamophobes strong point.  They also have a tendency to promote almost anyone to “cleric”, for example, a street preacher gets promoted to “Muslim Cleric”, and some Islamophobes like Werner Reimann actually invent fake Sheikh personas for themselves.  Reimann calls himself Sheikh Yer’Mami.  if it suits their purposes.

This renewed interest in the “fake Sheikh” came as he pled guilty to charges that he had sent (between 2007 and 2009) the cruel letters to parents of seven Australian soldiers killed in Afghanistan.

I don’t know what the punishment for such acts is under Australian law, but I certainly hope that he receives the maximum penalty allowed.  I also hope that more information about who exactly he is, and what his motives are for such actions is released.

I tried to locate any existing website for “Sheikh Haron” but could not.  It seems that previous websites have all been taken offline.  Let’s hope that whoever he is, he stays offline, and stops all of his offensive actions.

 

originally published 12/10/2007
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