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Old 10-10-2017, 04:53 PM   #1
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Both of these are not apart from one another they're both mind and a part of the same energetic sequence or frequency. We may view these as being abstract but such isn't the case, rather only a concept.

What would happen if you was conscious of the subconscious mind?

You would awaken from what would feel like a deep sleep, like when you wake up in the morning after having a very vivid dream.
You would not say you was disconnected from that experience but a more accurate view would be your conscious mind was able to perceive lucid images of ongoings created within the subconscious but then these fade away as we begin to then sleep walk through the rest of our day.

We have developed an interface which as such advances we become more and more asleep and distracted from a greater experience, while one part of the mind is subdued more and more becoming the term subconscious as we distance ourselves with what we label that part of suppression of the mind, rather than seeing it as the gateway to an infinite experience of consciousness that is under attack by our delusions we create for ourselves or by the enforcement of a system created and imposed by others that would rather suppress our very ultimate nature.
This is censorship or self censorship of ultimate existence.
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Both of these are not apart from one another they're both mind and a part of the same energetic sequence or frequency. We may view these as being abstract but such isn't the case, rather only a concept.

What would happen if you was conscious of the subconscious mind?

You would awaken from what would feel like a deep sleep, like when you wake up in the morning after having a very vivid dream.
You would not say you was disconnected from that experience but a more accurate view would be your conscious mind was able to perceive lucid images of ongoings created within the subconscious but then these fade away as we begin to then sleep walk through the rest of our day.

We have developed an interface which as such advances we become more and more asleep and distracted from a greater experience, while one part of the mind is subdued more and more becoming the term subconscious as we distance ourselves with what we label that part of suppression of the mind, rather than seeing it as the gateway to an infinite experience of consciousness that is under attack by our delusions we create for ourselves or by the enforcement of a system created and imposed by others that would rather suppress our very ultimate nature.
This is censorship or self censorship of ultimate existence.

I agree combining the two. and yes we are living in a cluster fck

But how do you do that? combine it all? Besides being just aware to the nightmare we are in. (intellect)

So at night when we dream, I call that sub conscious dreaming. Unless we are lucky enough to lucid dream, and then I call that being conscious of us being in a sub conscious dream at night. Kinda like we are doing now together in this sub conscious day dream. So my question to you is what tools are you using to stay conscious in a very collective and suggestive sub conscious dream that we are born into, absorbed by, and maybe even being fed on by entities we cant even imagine ? (intuitive)

cos you know the material reality may not be the only game in town ..

personally im looking into the occult, as opposed to well meaning intentions of a middle way
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I agree combining the two. and yes we are living in a cluster fck

But how do you do that? combine it all? Besides being just aware to the nightmare we are in. (intellect)

So at night when we dream, I call that sub conscious dreaming. Unless we are lucky enough to lucid dream, and then I call that being conscious of us being in a sub conscious dream at night. Kinda like we are doing now together in this sub conscious day dream. So my question to you is what tools are you using to stay conscious in a very collective and suggestive sub conscious dream that we are born into, absorbed by, and maybe even being fed on by entities we cant even imagine ? (intuitive)

cos you know the material reality may not be the only game in town ..

personally im looking into the occult, as opposed to well meaning intentions of a middle way

Well to me, and this is just to me it may help others to view things like this also but I can see my views may come across as opinionated. People should try these views on like a pair of glasses and see if they fit what they’re experiencing and not be offended either way there are plenty more glasses to chose from what is annoying is the hard sale of a double pair (duality) by specsavers is the current state we find ourselves in and the inversion is that its anyone else with an alternative outlook is the opinionated sales guy forcing something on you so just say you’re not interested is then default setting…

I think this subject can be analysed in a similar as to why has Science and Philosophy been removed from one another?

They shouldn’t have been. Yet this has happened because within science a lot of establishments have built themselves up a towering inferno, on the base of a very sandy land indeed, which it’s important for them to protect. Therefore they have separated the two. Also people don’t want you to wonder around a system they want you to unquestionably accept as you may see it for what it really is. It’s like once you have lied you have to keep on lying to cover yourself until it just all gets out of hand only this is by an establishment and a cover-up.

I don’t think we are looking just through the wrong end of the telescope/microscope.
If you can imagine a microscope upon another microscope infinitely, that is how science is viewing reality until we get to a point we can’t see beyond within that limited scope of perception. It’s like HD and Ultra HD we can only see in HD yet it doesn’t stop the marketing of Ultra HD. Sure the technology and science behind it maybe more advanced but can we see any better because of its advancements?

To go further mainstream science isn’t only looking at reality all wrong, it’s looking at a concept or projection of reality rather than reality itself.

It is like eating a menu instead of the food, before the food has even arrived and before they have even ordered it. Instead they have gone about cutting up the pictures of the food and all the labels to discover just exactly what is in the meal based upon those projection and labels and called that a science for the discovery of understanding what is in the food. Or in other words what makes reality?

This in turn creates more and more smaller pieces, which they give more and more labels to without seeing the error of their ways. As you can see this has got them to a similar place as the creation of Ultra HD. Sure the systems of doing this and the technology created have advanced but we can still only see as far as the HD systems we had previously created before getting to this stage. If we looked a little harder previously then we could see we are doing it all wrong.
Instead science doesn’t want to look a fool to the philosophers out their sitting at a table across the room rather than on the same table as them, they’re old pals that no longer talk to one another so science have paid the bill and split hoping know one had noticed they had been sat around a table all this time chewing on the menu and proclaiming they were on the verge of discovering the key to all existence and making the best curry you’ve ever had in your life!

The food itself is a lot more artistic and an all-around better experience which science can only understand by asking the philosophers what’s it like?
A little like a virgin trying to experience sex by an in-depth explanation from his mate or by the use of a VR headset hooked up to pornhub…
It’s just not the same as being involved within the experience yourself and you’re not going to get the full picture. So instead science has bought the VR headset and thinks that’s the same thing when really it’s no different to sitting around eating the menu like they had been doing previously…

So yes this that I have described is the best picture of also the mislabeling of conscious and subconscious from one another and seeing them as somehow separate from one another. It’s also the divide and rule at it’s very core it all starts with perception.

Black and white (Good or Evil) how people generally view the world originate from the same center it is simply a choice and both can be engineered and used to misguide people usually by symbolic and emotional suggestion to influence the mind if it be subconsciously of consciously by people who view society as sheep and engineer societies consent by viewing them as “the masses” if enough can be convinced or engineered the rest will have to follow. All’s that is needed is a convincing that “most people believe” …

The best method is to not grasp any information or views and stand back from your perception and view them as clouds passing.
When the same cloud passes and keeps on doing so even with you keeping distance from it you know that the exact same appearance of a cloud can’t be possible without this being designed and part of a system or agenda and it’s the same reoccurring themes that need investigation as that should not be the case…
The fact that the same themes keep coming up means there is a system in place designed to direct your perspective of things and this is the case for society at large who haven’t noticed this and it’s those things you need to bring to other peoples attention as them being more than just your misconceptions as to what’s going on and of conspiracy theory in nature. But this can only happen if you research and observe from a distance and don’t immediately buy into anything just let it pass and see what the subtle reoccurring themes are.

I’m going to write my interpretation based on possible other entities based upon my understanding of occult practices also.

The Occult just offer better methods of playing with yourself which maybe fun for a while or pretending to fool people who don’t understand your secrets and pretty soon you can buy into your own smoke screen or begin fooling yourself of your own “powers” and begin chasing that dragon. Of course this is just my opinion, the people behind this got there by the power they feel they have, by following certain practices within their occult groups. I believe it doesn’t matter what body or form these people take they’re little more than vehicles or conduits for another entity to take over once one has sold their mind, body and sole to their cause within these occults. Other people can only get so fair within the occult and have the knowledge censored to exceed beyond the bounds of those which wish to control society want to allow you to get to. Such is saved for a certain genetic code as their vehicle that has been protected and continued since ancient times. I’m going to write more about this in a post about Ted Heath it’s just taking some time.

Sir Edward Heath's godson urges police abuse inquiry review
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=319080

Sorry for the essay but this may help others in their search also.
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Old 12-10-2017, 07:32 AM   #4
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I agree with most you wrote. Your obviously very smart. All im saying is we are all under extreme attack now! Cos we are so weak, in a deep collective sub conscious dream. Not really interested in your thread about child abuse. Cos we are still being abused as adults. Its obvious we are sick with all our symptoms, but Fck the victims, we need action. Our sub conscious collective (with its so called “values” ) are constantly invading our souls. We are flawed with emotions like love. So we have to learn how to use emotions like tools. If we connect and channel our emotions correctly, we can overcome many of our flaws. But this requires pealing back many layers of yourself.

And then you can “step back” from the collective Suggestive world we are living in, and defend, and even use skillful action on our sub conscious. We need more wolves right now, who are not afraid to make mistakes

Imo that’s combining the conscious with our sub conscious
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Old 13-10-2017, 05:15 AM   #6
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it was like this right.. when I was very young, I used to have this reoccurring dream of being chased down a tunnel, just like in star wars 2, where luke is being trained by the yoda.

Anyway one night I was running a long for my life, but then I thought about what I was doing, so I just turned around and killed the monster myself. From then on a whole world of new dreaming opened up. Yes sometimes there would be fears but I conquered them. Now for some reason this world is forever challenging that resolve built over conquering these fears, whether they are new ones acquired or a result of programming (both I believe), there is a lot of stuff that affects our waking and sleeping lifes Perhaps if I was allowed to walk this world like I walk the dream worlds things would be different here, but imo whatever negative effort is occurring to people everywhere is to stymie such a thing on a regular basis or to foster it. Can't rule that out. I either have had some traumatic past lifes or carry some genetic trauma that runs deep that effects me seriously.. again that could be all programming, but suppose that would mean that everything is an implant and we're totally powerless, and seriously limiting beliefs like that im trying to avoid like the plague. Couple that with a sensitivity to emotions, EMF and other such stuff which trigger neg, and it's easy to get stuck into negative loops where you interpret most things as negative and the only thing positive is an escape of thoughts no matter how potentially negative (eg people who kill themselves etc).
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I doubt you would be able to function in this world with purely unconscious mind awareness.

Our subconscious mind picks up loads of information that we block consciously so if you were constantly being stimulated be all of these thoughts and impulses the brain probably would be overloaded because it couldnt handle the processing.

The way I understand it is that in our true condition we are superconscious, which is the mind of the soul. When you develop an individuality the superconscious becomes the subconscious we have an exalted conscious mind in a mental body. When we incarnate into a body we then develop the body mind, which is then the conscious mind and the previous conscious mind then becomes the subconscious.

This is why people who achieve superconscious awareness are usually in deep trance. It is supposed to be the goal of humanity to evolve the superconscious mind to manifest in the physical world b ut we dont have the machinery for that yet.
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