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Old 23-05-2014, 11:44 AM   #1
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Ok, so I don't understand the rise of UKIP in terms of the Global Conspiracy.

The Global Conspiracy tells us that there is an agenda that pushes us towards a one-world government (with the EU being part of that move)...

The Global Conspiracy also tells us that Politicians, Governments, Presidents and Prime Ministers are somewhat hand picked with the Media using all the brainwashing powers at its disposal to coral the dumb masses into voting for who the PTB want in power...


Now, there has definitely been a push by the mainstream media, tv news and press pack in the UK to demonise immigrants and to push Nigel Farage up to the dizzy hieghts of "Great White Hope and Saviour"... and it looks as though that brainwashing has worked. There is no doubt that UKIP have done very well in yesterdays elections.

So, my question. Isn't the enablement of UKIP counter-productive to the push for One World Government...?

What is going on here?
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Old 23-05-2014, 11:47 AM   #2
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Ok, so I don't understand the rise of UKIP in terms of the Global Conspiracy.

The Global Conspiracy tells us that there is an agenda that pushes us towards a one-world government (with the EU being part of that move)...

The Global Conspiracy also tells us that Politicians, Governments, Presidents and Prime Ministers are somewhat hand picked with the Media using all the brainwashing powers at its disposal to coral the dumb masses into voting for who the PTB want in power...


Now, there has definitely been a push by the mainstream media, tv news and press pack in the UK to demonise immigrants and to push Nigel Farage up to the dizzy hieghts of "Great White Hope and Saviour"... and it looks as though that brainwashing has worked. There is no doubt that UKIP have done very well in yesterdays elections.

So, my question. Isn't the enablement of UKIP counter-productive to the push for One World Government...?

What is going on here?
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Isn't the enablement of UKIP counter-productive to the push for One World Government...?
Yes it is ....the media have spent weeks slagging off UKIP ,and yet the Public have ignored them and voted who THEY wanted ...a lot being UKIP supporters.
Not so many sheeple after all .
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Old 23-05-2014, 11:51 AM   #3
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Yes it is ....the media have spent weeks slagging off UKIP ,and yet the Public have ignored them and voted who THEY wanted ...a lot being UKIP supporters.
Not so many sheeple after all .
Controlled opposition.
The sheeple exchanged one sheepherder for another
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So, my question. Isn't the enablement of UKIP counter-productive to the push for One World Government...?

No. Look at the Neocon George W Bush and 911. That was all manipulated. And then along comes Obama................everyone thought he would put things right and he just followed the same agenda. But for a time the people who had their eye on the ball took it off and that is what was wanted. Let everyone think that they have won for a bit and it will take them ages to figure that something has gone wrong. All the time they are inching to NWO.
So if UKIP get in the people who voted for them will relax and then the agenda will be pushed forward. Then two years later things are getting worse and people are saying WTF!
Keep the masses in WTF all the time and you confuse them.
Anyway that is how I see it all plays out.
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Yes it is ....the media have spent weeks slagging off UKIP ,and yet the Public have ignored them and voted who THEY wanted ...a lot being UKIP supporters.
Not so many sheeple after all .
Or just perhaps the media for a change used reverse psychology on the sheeples What i don't get is Farage is heavy in with Europe with his MEP actor role...so how come he can get us out, and didn't G Brown signed the Lisbon Treaty may mean it's impossible to get out fully.

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Ok, so I don't understand the rise of UKIP in terms of the Global Conspiracy.

The Global Conspiracy tells us that there is an agenda that pushes us towards a one-world government (with the EU being part of that move)...

The Global Conspiracy also tells us that Politicians, Governments, Presidents and Prime Ministers are somewhat hand picked with the Media using all the brainwashing powers at its disposal to coral the dumb masses into voting for who the PTB want in power...


Now, there has definitely been a push by the mainstream media, tv news and press pack in the UK to demonise immigrants and to push Nigel Farage up to the dizzy hieghts of "Great White Hope and Saviour"... and it looks as though that brainwashing has worked. There is no doubt that UKIP have done very well in yesterdays elections.

So, my question. Isn't the enablement of UKIP counter-productive to the push for One World Government...?

What is going on here?
Divide and conquer?

While the EU isn't perfect, far from it, at the moment I can up sticks, jump into my car and drive to any EU member state and set up home. I'm suspicious of anyone who wants to reduce my freedoms.

So to me UKIP want me in a smaller cage, next it will be restrictions on UK internal movement; South is full so you'll need a special permit to head down. Scotland will be independent, so can't go too far north.

Also UKIP would have us out of the European Court of Human Rights. I still find it strange that people are falling for this. I'm a human, why would I be happy about losing some rights? I quite like the idea that I can't be forced to work around the clock, and many other employment rights the EU has bought us.

The papers are full of stories of criminals exploiting human rights laws, and the MSM use this to justify getting rid of it. Seriously? Some bad men exploit a good things so we all lose it? Who'd be in favour of a curfew on the basis some burglars rob under the cover of darkness?

UKIP are a dangerous tool, sold on the basis of protecting the UK by limiting freedoms. They will dismantle the NHS we have paid to set up to make profits for the people who fund the party.

For me to vote for UKIP would be like a turkey voting for Christmas. Others disagree, mainly the ones who think that they're awake while I'm asleep, I believe the contrary.
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Or just perhaps the media for a change used reverse psychology on the sheeples
No I didnt see any of the other three leaders being stalked by a mad man with a gun ,weeks after he failed to kill his target in a plane crash .

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Or just perhaps the media for a change used reverse psychology on the sheeples
The MSM stunk of desperation .....

Why would they want to push us to vote for the Party that wants out of the EU
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Or just perhaps the media for a change used reverse psychology on the sheeples
No, they used it on everyone.

Farage is always shown as the common man, pint in his hand. He's allowed to talk arrant bollocks and get it published. People buy into that bollocks so when the MSM do the old "look at this nasty bigot" next to articles about Romanians crime gangs invading your downstairs toilet because the EU says they can and there's nothing you can do to stop them people start to think this Farage is talking sense.
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No, they used it on everyone.

Farage is always shown as the common man, pint in his hand. He's allowed to talk arrant bollocks and get it published. People buy into that bollocks so when the MSM do the old "look at this nasty bigot" next to articles about Romanians crime gangs invading your downstairs toilet because the EU says they can and there's nothing you can do to stop them people start to think this Farage is talking sense.
Better than the other fuckwits who have covered for the Paedophiles in their parties for decades ,the ones who have used and abused vunerable children from care homes.

I would NEVER support any these parties .
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Better than the other fuckwits who have covered for the Paedophiles in their parties for decades ,the ones who have used and abused vunerable children from care homes.

I would NEVER support any these parties .
Yes, it's important to base your voting decisions on sensible, logical reasoning.
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The European Union is Waging a Third War Against Us: Subversion by the Frankfurt School and Common Purpose

By David Noakes – EU Truth -

The European Union is waging a third war against us

It plans complete control of Britain. Our nation and democracy are being dismantled. It is the same war for which 1.4 million British servicemen have given their lives twice before. But this time it is using a “fifth column:” subversion from within.

The EU regime is illegal

The EU attack has to be subversive because the entire EU regime is illegal in this country: our government and sovereign have no legal authority to abolish our common law, British Constitution, monarchy, or our nation. The EU is marching forward only because our government and legal profession are able to abuse their powers by breaking the law and committing the crime of Treason. To do this without spending a lifetime in jail they secretly repealed part of the Treason Acts, hidden in the Crime and Disorder Act, 1998.

(MP’s did not know they were repealing Treason Acts; that was slipped into clause 36.3 after they read it, to get Tony Blair off a treason charge for the 1997 Amsterdam Treaty.)

The subversive EU attack on the UK comes at three levels:


Overt: The EU Treaties, Constitution, laws, and its120,000 destructive regulations.

Covert: Subversion of our government, institutions, bureaucracies, press, media and identity.

Penetration of our political leadership to end representative democracy

Disinformation: Government has spent millions annually since 1970 to deceive us about the EU.
Let’s look at these in more detail:

Covert: The subversion of our people, schools, children and families: The Frankfurt School


The techniques are broadly based on the Frankfurt School, the University department bought by the Soviet Union in 1935. The Soviets asked it for the best methods of undermining other nations so it could bring them under its control. The EU has been implementing these techniques in Britain since the early 1960’s.

200+ Frankfurt School techniques

The Frankfurt school recommends political correctness, the teaching of sex and homosexuality to children, the creation of racialism offences, continual change to create confusion, the undermining of schools and teachers’ authority, the promotion of excessive drinking, emptying the churches, the corruption of the courts, the creation of trauma through injustice, dependency on the state or benefits, massive immigration to destroy our identity and create tension, control and dumbing down of media and TV, the attack on fathers and the breakdown of the family, and other methods; the results and violence fill our newspapers every day.

Political Correctness is a form of mind control to control free speech, to undermine public opinion, to weaken the defences of democracy and to “re-educate” schoolchildren; it is a well documented communist subversion procedure.

These techniques have been remarkably successful at undermining local and national government, the Police, NHS, schools and children. It has alienated British people from our nation and its politics; millions are now disinterested and apathetic. On 13th Feb. 2007 UNICEF reported British children now have the worst upbringing of the 21 top nations.

Trauma through injustice

The creation of trauma through injustice usually leads to financial ruin and often to suicide; our utterly corrupt British courts now practice it regularly, as do bodies as diverse as the General Osteopathic Council and Social Services with local councils, who together snatch 4,500 healthy children a year from good parents for forced adoption. They are not interested in abused or maladjusted children.

There are two objectives:

1. Trauma makes people live in fear of government; it controls them and makes them comply.

2. It trains local leaders, like social services and councils, to rule with the brutality a dictatorship like the EU will need to stay in power.

See: http://www.eutruth.org.uk/councilchildsnatch.html

and fi2garvey.pdf

Common Purpose.


Who directs this subversion? All of the six EU treaties have already been signed; and the handover of power to the EU is well underway, with the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister in charge. The ODPM ran the EU’s Common Purpose organization in Britain, which has already used these techniques to train 30,000 leaders for what they chillingly call “the post democratic era.”

Common Purpose assists the spread this subversion and EU style corruption throughout our government bureaucracies. If you see public land being sold, or some EU funded regeneration or redevelopment project suddenly blossoming, you can guarantee large sums of money will be sticking to the fingers of officials who are Common Purpose trained.

Common Purpose is entrenched in the NHS, the BBC, the Church, the legal profession, the Police, Schools and the Education sector, Social Services, City, County Councils, Local Councils, Government Offices of the Regions, Regional Development Agencies, Regional Assemblies, and in the 8,500 government quangos which spend £167 billion annually.

The leadership of Freemasonry

Is the largest 5th column, claiming 400,000 members; at the EU’s bidding, they have corrupted our courts, newspapers and other institutions.

Please invite Brian Gerrish ([email protected]) to train you on how to expose and stop this subversion,

EU penetration of our Political Leadership


In 1958 Ted Heath, Geoffrey Rippon and Roy Jenkins were recruited by the German DVD for the EU; many others like Ken Clarke, Francis Maude, David Milliband and Peter Mandleson continue their work. A dozen current New Labour Ministers were communist activists. They switched allegiance from the Soviet Union to the European Union, and subversion exploded. Using the party list system pro EU MP’s were selected, resulting in the 138 majority on 21st January 2008 for the Libson Treaty (and the abolition of Westminster.)

The Conservative Party’s members and voters overwhelmingly want to be out of Europe, but the party stopped representing them decades ago. The leadership fell under the iron grip of European control in the 1960’s, when Macmillan first tried to take us into the EU; Ted Heath did. That grip was slightly relaxed under Margaret Thatcher, but she was still forced to sign the Single European Act in 1987, in which Britain consented to be part of a single European dictatorship.

The Conservative Party is the primary instrument of the Marxist EU in Britain.

The EU still has absolute control over the Conservative leadership today. Some make no real effort to disguise their allegiance to the EU, such as Hesletine, Ken Clarke, Maude and David Cameron. The Party is controlled by the EU’s policies and agenda, not that of the voters. This pattern now exists in the Labour Party under the communists exposed above, and in all areas of elected government. The principal of representative democracy has been subverted.

Conservative voters will be horrified when they find out, too late, that David Cameron is a committed Pro-European socialist. He uses the language of Common Purpose, and in his career as a Director of Carlton TV, its techniques.

One example is Cameron’s command to change. If you change you destroy the old; if you have nothing substantial to change to, you’ve simply destroyed, and the technique has succeeded. He may win an election, but it won’t be the Conservative Party that’s in power.

The Lib Dems are overwhelmingly in favour of their EU masters. Nick Clegg, like Mandleson, is an ex EU employee and pawn; his principle residence is in Brussels. Yes, they know we are now living in what is legally a police state, and make speeches strongly opposing it. But they conceal the fact, that after 34 years inside, it is their EU police state we are living in.

UKIP is pro-EU

UKIP was founded in 1993 as a honey trap to neutralize anti–EU activists by the Conservative party, with Nigel Farage in on day one as spoiler in chief. If as a party member you run a serious anti-EU campaign, you are ruthlessly shut down by its internal freemasonry Regional Organisers; they rig internal elections to keep effective activists out, and Common Purpose members create infighting to ensure no progress is made.

Nigel Farage has controlled the party for most of its life. He appointed Roger Knapman as leader in 2002, without an election, coercing the other candidates to stand down. On 12th September 2006 Nigel Farage became UKIP’s leader formally. He makes good, Conservative Party level speeches, insults EU commissioners. but always misses the telling facts when attacking the EU, to avoid doing it real damage. He and others also create disputes to destroy the parties effectiveness.

His printed election address, and speeches since he became leader, make it clear his main aim is to get UKIP’s MEP’s re-elected (thus ensuring their £440,000 pa salary/expenses; he gets a lot more.) As for his pretended method for leaving the EU, he says electing a majority of UKIP MEP’s would make our position in the EU untenable.

He knows that’s not true: the sham EU parliament has no power, and we can only leave if Westminster repeals the 1972 European Treaty of Accession (before it is abolished by the EU.)

So even UKIP is a pro EU party, with its top ten leaders, all European MEP’s, paid vast EU salaries which they are very keen to protect, and all the parties’ employees paid by the EU. He who pays the piper calls the tune.

Nick Griffin MEP / The BNP

The BNP is controlled by the Edgar (Dad) and Nick Griffin Freemasonry family. Edgar Griffin, a very senior Freemason, controls the party’s finances. Between them, they ensure it is never a threat to the EU.

A number of regional organisers have left because the leader, Nick Griffin, like Nigel Farage, will not genuinely fight the EU.

It has been explained to Griffin why the EU is a dictatorship, with documentation; he’s been shown how to defeat the EU with 8,000 members. He paid lip service and made promises in front of his own people, then did nothing, and makes speeches like: “….the EU isn’t the threat; forget the EU, the threat is “peak oil”, and the BNP should plant vegetables.”

There is no better way to neutralise a political party. Andrew Bronz, BNP MEP, filibusters in speeches and does not attack the EU effectively. On the bright side, it seems it is just these who are the EU’s placemen, and the rest of the party, 99 percent of them, are 50+ year old ex Labour, Conservative and Lib Dem members disgusted their old parties are doing nothing. Unfortunately, neither will the BNP.

Disinformation

Government documents released under the 30 year secrecy rule prove that from Ted Heath onwards, the government has spent huge sums deceiving us about the EU. See FCO 26/1215; £461,400 spent on disinformation in 1972. FCO 30/1065 snooping on and sabotaging anti-EU MPs and speakers. FCO 26/1213 controlling TV presenters, journalists. FC0 26/1212, and FCO 30/1048, are covered on the eutruth website.

Stop repression and poverty by the EU police state

http://eutruth.org.uk Please call 07974 437 097 if you would like to help.

This web site is © Copyright David Noakes 2003-2009, All Rights Reserved,

Permission to copy and distribute is granted.

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As already stated, controlled opposition... giving the illusion that there is some opposition to the one-world agenda.

Political parties that start out in a fringe and protest position, go one of two ways, they either incorporate into the elite (think Lib Dems and their "compromises" made after the last GE) or they disappear. The only way UKIP will disappear now is if the main parties pull their heads out of their arse and get some real magic tricks going with the media for the middle-man and poorer-like-me vote.

IMO UKIP are headed for incorporation into the elite establishment. Giving people the illusion of choice is no choice at all. Whilst I wouldn't want to not vote, I find I will always back the likeliest loser because at least it hammers home the point that not everyone is sleep walking.
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As already stated, controlled opposition... giving the illusion that there is some opposition to the one-world agenda.

Political parties that start out in a fringe and protest position, go one of two ways, they either incorporate into the elite (think Lib Dems and their "compromises" made after the last GE) or they disappear. The only way UKIP will disappear now is if the main parties pull their heads out of their arse and get some real magic tricks going with the media for the middle-man and poorer-like-me vote.

IMO UKIP are headed for incorporation into the elite establishment. Giving people the illusion of choice is no choice at all. Whilst I wouldn't want to not vote, I find I will always back the likeliest loser because at least it hammers home the point that not everyone is sleep walking.
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Thats an unknown as far as UKIP are concerned,but we Do know all the other main Parties ARE part of the Elite establishment .
The Huffington Post tried the "UKIP are Antisemetic "card ,because Gerrard Batten spoke out against Bilderburg and the MSM .

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Thats an unknown as far as UKIP are concerned,but we Do know all the other main Parties ARE part of the Elite establishment .
The Huffington Post tried the "UKIP are Antisemetic "card ,because Gerrard Batten spoke out against Bilderburg and the MSM .
Well normally I'd agree with you Grannie, but if you look through history, it happened to Labour and it has happened to the Lib Dems. I am not denying that UKIP aren't a political force to be reckoned with - they may well be, but what I am saying is that once they get where they're going, something happens to political parties. Power is seductive is it not..?!

I personally will be looking out for future Bilderburg lists to see if any of them are on it. At the moment the elite have been able to ignore UKIP and with the media gaffes its not really surprising. I think if anything to me, this UKIP voting thing says more people are awake than we realise and that should be recognised for what it is. The problem is, what happens with the political arena afterwards.
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Well normally I'd agree with you Grannie, but if you look through history, it happened to Labour and it has happened to the Lib Dems. I am not denying that UKIP aren't a political force to be reckoned with - they may well be, but what I am saying is that once they get where they're going, something happens to political parties. Power is seductive is it not..?!

I personally will be looking out for future Bilderburg lists to see if any of them are on it. At the moment the elite have been able to ignore UKIP and with the media gaffes its not really surprising. I think if anything to me, this UKIP voting thing says more people are awake than we realise and that should be recognised for what it is. The problem is, what happens with the political arena afterwards.
I agree ,power does change people ..but I would suggest that the three Leaders we have now are being Blackmailed by the Elite ,they were selected for power at a young age because TPTB have dirt on them ...
Nigel Farage laid all his faults out in his Book ,for everyone to read .
He is a loose cannon that cannot be controlled .
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The European Union is Waging a Third War Against Us: Subversion by the Frankfurt School and Common Purpose

By David Noakes – EU Truth -

The European Union is waging a third war against us

It plans complete control of Britain. Our nation and democracy are being dismantled. It is the same war for which 1.4 million British servicemen have given their lives twice before. But this time it is using a “fifth column:” subversion from within.

The EU regime is illegal

The EU attack has to be subversive because the entire EU regime is illegal in this country: our government and sovereign have no legal authority to abolish our common law, British Constitution, monarchy, or our nation. The EU is marching forward only because our government and legal profession are able to abuse their powers by breaking the law and committing the crime of Treason. To do this without spending a lifetime in jail they secretly repealed part of the Treason Acts, hidden in the Crime and Disorder Act, 1998.

(MP’s did not know they were repealing Treason Acts; that was slipped into clause 36.3 after they read it, to get Tony Blair off a treason charge for the 1997 Amsterdam Treaty.)

The subversive EU attack on the UK comes at three levels:


Overt: The EU Treaties, Constitution, laws, and its120,000 destructive regulations.

Covert: Subversion of our government, institutions, bureaucracies, press, media and identity.

Penetration of our political leadership to end representative democracy

Disinformation: Government has spent millions annually since 1970 to deceive us about the EU.
Let’s look at these in more detail:

Covert: The subversion of our people, schools, children and families: The Frankfurt School


The techniques are broadly based on the Frankfurt School, the University department bought by the Soviet Union in 1935. The Soviets asked it for the best methods of undermining other nations so it could bring them under its control. The EU has been implementing these techniques in Britain since the early 1960’s.

200+ Frankfurt School techniques

The Frankfurt school recommends political correctness, the teaching of sex and homosexuality to children, the creation of racialism offences, continual change to create confusion, the undermining of schools and teachers’ authority, the promotion of excessive drinking, emptying the churches, the corruption of the courts, the creation of trauma through injustice, dependency on the state or benefits, massive immigration to destroy our identity and create tension, control and dumbing down of media and TV, the attack on fathers and the breakdown of the family, and other methods; the results and violence fill our newspapers every day.

Political Correctness is a form of mind control to control free speech, to undermine public opinion, to weaken the defences of democracy and to “re-educate” schoolchildren; it is a well documented communist subversion procedure.

These techniques have been remarkably successful at undermining local and national government, the Police, NHS, schools and children. It has alienated British people from our nation and its politics; millions are now disinterested and apathetic. On 13th Feb. 2007 UNICEF reported British children now have the worst upbringing of the 21 top nations.

Trauma through injustice

The creation of trauma through injustice usually leads to financial ruin and often to suicide; our utterly corrupt British courts now practice it regularly, as do bodies as diverse as the General Osteopathic Council and Social Services with local councils, who together snatch 4,500 healthy children a year from good parents for forced adoption. They are not interested in abused or maladjusted children.

There are two objectives:

1. Trauma makes people live in fear of government; it controls them and makes them comply.

2. It trains local leaders, like social services and councils, to rule with the brutality a dictatorship like the EU will need to stay in power.

See: http://www.eutruth.org.uk/councilchildsnatch.html

and fi2garvey.pdf

Common Purpose.


Who directs this subversion? All of the six EU treaties have already been signed; and the handover of power to the EU is well underway, with the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister in charge. The ODPM ran the EU’s Common Purpose organization in Britain, which has already used these techniques to train 30,000 leaders for what they chillingly call “the post democratic era.”

Common Purpose assists the spread this subversion and EU style corruption throughout our government bureaucracies. If you see public land being sold, or some EU funded regeneration or redevelopment project suddenly blossoming, you can guarantee large sums of money will be sticking to the fingers of officials who are Common Purpose trained.

Common Purpose is entrenched in the NHS, the BBC, the Church, the legal profession, the Police, Schools and the Education sector, Social Services, City, County Councils, Local Councils, Government Offices of the Regions, Regional Development Agencies, Regional Assemblies, and in the 8,500 government quangos which spend £167 billion annually.

The leadership of Freemasonry

Is the largest 5th column, claiming 400,000 members; at the EU’s bidding, they have corrupted our courts, newspapers and other institutions.

Please invite Brian Gerrish ([email protected]) to train you on how to expose and stop this subversion,

EU penetration of our Political Leadership


In 1958 Ted Heath, Geoffrey Rippon and Roy Jenkins were recruited by the German DVD for the EU; many others like Ken Clarke, Francis Maude, David Milliband and Peter Mandleson continue their work. A dozen current New Labour Ministers were communist activists. They switched allegiance from the Soviet Union to the European Union, and subversion exploded. Using the party list system pro EU MP’s were selected, resulting in the 138 majority on 21st January 2008 for the Libson Treaty (and the abolition of Westminster.)

The Conservative Party’s members and voters overwhelmingly want to be out of Europe, but the party stopped representing them decades ago. The leadership fell under the iron grip of European control in the 1960’s, when Macmillan first tried to take us into the EU; Ted Heath did. That grip was slightly relaxed under Margaret Thatcher, but she was still forced to sign the Single European Act in 1987, in which Britain consented to be part of a single European dictatorship.

The Conservative Party is the primary instrument of the Marxist EU in Britain.

The EU still has absolute control over the Conservative leadership today. Some make no real effort to disguise their allegiance to the EU, such as Hesletine, Ken Clarke, Maude and David Cameron. The Party is controlled by the EU’s policies and agenda, not that of the voters. This pattern now exists in the Labour Party under the communists exposed above, and in all areas of elected government. The principal of representative democracy has been subverted.

Conservative voters will be horrified when they find out, too late, that David Cameron is a committed Pro-European socialist. He uses the language of Common Purpose, and in his career as a Director of Carlton TV, its techniques.

One example is Cameron’s command to change. If you change you destroy the old; if you have nothing substantial to change to, you’ve simply destroyed, and the technique has succeeded. He may win an election, but it won’t be the Conservative Party that’s in power.

The Lib Dems are overwhelmingly in favour of their EU masters. Nick Clegg, like Mandleson, is an ex EU employee and pawn; his principle residence is in Brussels. Yes, they know we are now living in what is legally a police state, and make speeches strongly opposing it. But they conceal the fact, that after 34 years inside, it is their EU police state we are living in.

UKIP is pro-EU

UKIP was founded in 1993 as a honey trap to neutralize anti–EU activists by the Conservative party, with Nigel Farage in on day one as spoiler in chief. If as a party member you run a serious anti-EU campaign, you are ruthlessly shut down by its internal freemasonry Regional Organisers; they rig internal elections to keep effective activists out, and Common Purpose members create infighting to ensure no progress is made.

Nigel Farage has controlled the party for most of its life. He appointed Roger Knapman as leader in 2002, without an election, coercing the other candidates to stand down. On 12th September 2006 Nigel Farage became UKIP’s leader formally. He makes good, Conservative Party level speeches, insults EU commissioners. but always misses the telling facts when attacking the EU, to avoid doing it real damage. He and others also create disputes to destroy the parties effectiveness.

His printed election address, and speeches since he became leader, make it clear his main aim is to get UKIP’s MEP’s re-elected (thus ensuring their £440,000 pa salary/expenses; he gets a lot more.) As for his pretended method for leaving the EU, he says electing a majority of UKIP MEP’s would make our position in the EU untenable.

He knows that’s not true: the sham EU parliament has no power, and we can only leave if Westminster repeals the 1972 European Treaty of Accession (before it is abolished by the EU.)

So even UKIP is a pro EU party, with its top ten leaders, all European MEP’s, paid vast EU salaries which they are very keen to protect, and all the parties’ employees paid by the EU. He who pays the piper calls the tune.

Nick Griffin MEP / The BNP

The BNP is controlled by the Edgar (Dad) and Nick Griffin Freemasonry family. Edgar Griffin, a very senior Freemason, controls the party’s finances. Between them, they ensure it is never a threat to the EU.

A number of regional organisers have left because the leader, Nick Griffin, like Nigel Farage, will not genuinely fight the EU.

It has been explained to Griffin why the EU is a dictatorship, with documentation; he’s been shown how to defeat the EU with 8,000 members. He paid lip service and made promises in front of his own people, then did nothing, and makes speeches like: “….the EU isn’t the threat; forget the EU, the threat is “peak oil”, and the BNP should plant vegetables.”

There is no better way to neutralise a political party. Andrew Bronz, BNP MEP, filibusters in speeches and does not attack the EU effectively. On the bright side, it seems it is just these who are the EU’s placemen, and the rest of the party, 99 percent of them, are 50+ year old ex Labour, Conservative and Lib Dem members disgusted their old parties are doing nothing. Unfortunately, neither will the BNP.

Disinformation

Government documents released under the 30 year secrecy rule prove that from Ted Heath onwards, the government has spent huge sums deceiving us about the EU. See FCO 26/1215; £461,400 spent on disinformation in 1972. FCO 30/1065 snooping on and sabotaging anti-EU MPs and speakers. FCO 26/1213 controlling TV presenters, journalists. FC0 26/1212, and FCO 30/1048, are covered on the eutruth website.

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One thing is fact is that BNP do stand behind the other political parties at local Countings i have seen it for the short time few years back when i joined the awful Lib Dems but i left it withn two years as i didn't like some of the people within it nor the leader at the time.

BNP stood behind in black suits white shirts and tie making sure that the Countings of Votes were not cheated towards any one party,the others didn't seem to do that. BNP watched with hawk eyes and made some of the Libdems feel uneasy although i just smiled my way through it all.

I feel that lots of folks are voting as protest vote this time around.
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The European Union is waging a third war against us



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That's an intriguing article. Much food for thought there.
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One thing is fact is that BNP do stand behind the other political parties at local Countings i have seen it for the short time few years back when i joined the awful Lib Dems but i left it withn two years as i didn't like some of the people within it nor the leader at the time.

BNP stood behind in black suits white shirts and tie making sure that the Countings of Votes were not cheated towards any one party,the others didn't seem to do that. BNP watched with hawk eyes and made some of the Libdems feel uneasy although i just smiled my way through it all.

I feel that lots of folks are voting as protest vote this time around.
Whoever is allied with the dictatorship, I call them part of The Mafia. It makes clearer in my mind, somehow, that they are very dangerous "people". The Mafia has been glamourised in films so we aren't aware of how ugly the violent side of them can be. Plus the hero always wins but, it's not going to be very pretty when people actually start to come up against the brick wall of cold indifference with this lot! Disabled people are unable to defend themselves (and I think that stinks!) but ordinary working people?

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That's an intriguing article. Much food for thought there.
Yes, there is. I hope many more people will read it and begin to understand the enormity of the situation we're in. Perhaps, then, we'll see some action?
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