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Old 26-05-2014, 12:20 AM   #41
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1.20 pm NO London results ......bastards fixing the figures ...a "Common Purpose" no doubt ....its another election Fraud going on ...
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Old 26-05-2014, 12:24 AM   #42
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What's surprising is how little apparent affect this will have on the general composition of the European Parliament.

Seems to me the Chermans have it all stitched up with their European People's Party which seems to be mostly made up of the German national governing party.

Still ruled be Ze Chermans, this has changed nothing on that front, at least for the time being.


That's the whole point of Europe, drown our democracy in other people's democracy.

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Old 26-05-2014, 12:30 AM   #43
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What's surprising is how little apparent affect this will have on the general composition of the European Parliament.

Seems to me the Chermans have it all stitched up with their European People's Party which seems to be mostly made up of the German national governing party.

Still ruled be Ze Chermans, this has changed nothing on that front, at least for the time being.


That's the whole point of Europe, drown our democracy in other people's democracy.
Yes if we allow the EU to continue the Zionists Bankers won the war ..they will fuck everyone .
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Old 26-05-2014, 12:39 AM   #44
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I give up I'm. Sickened by what I see tonight but take some solice in seeing snp top the
Results table in Scotland

It's all about September Indy vote now
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Old 26-05-2014, 12:46 AM   #45
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I wonder where the voter migration to Labour is coming from, they seem to have done fairly well, either at the expense of the Tory or the Lib Dem vote.

Probably likely that the Lib-Dem vote moved to Labour and the Tory vote moved to UKIP.

It's still very much a 'two party system' in a sense.
Trust me mate Labour have lost many voters to UKIP .....and gained NON voters
Don't make the mistake of thinking the Lib Dem electorate, or party activists, are ALL europhiles like Nick Clegg. After all the lib dems have changed policies with the wind and its only under Clegg's leadership the party has been crucified on the altar of europhilia. This is especially true in Cornwall and Devon, Lib Dem stongholds for the last 2 decades where there is strong eurosceptcism and now, one hell of a strong UKIP vote

The real picture here is that labours vote in 2009 took an absolute kicking given the bailout of the banks, the expenses scandals, and Gordon "man who waited" brown being a boring bastard. given the likelyhood of their voters beleiving the lies about UKIP being racist/fascist and disgust at government austerity, Labour was always going to gain seats at the co-alitions expense. But they have gained only half of what they would have done if UKIP wasnt now on the ballot paper, and UKIP has taken gains off all of them. It looks like the overall Euro Vote is coming down @ 24% Tory 24% Labour and 30% UKIP: that doesnt look like translating into a labour gov in 2015

This is why my view is the most promising chance for real change is to do everything to encourage those who voted UKIP on thursday to vote UKIP again, to encourage many who have not voted for many elections to vote their conscience for the next GE, and to encourage those who WANT the EU and want the socialist superstate to vote Green not Labour

The prize would be a national vote truly on the issues representing a real peoples choice between sovereign state or client province, resolve the EU issue, and the destruction of the Oxford/Cambridge/LSE political elite, removing them from power, hopefully for good
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Old 26-05-2014, 12:49 AM   #46
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I give up I'm. Sickened by what I see tonight but take some solice in seeing snp top the
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It's all about September Indy vote now
so Scotland does have a UKIP MEP ...the one one you said would NEVER happen 'get over it ....
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Old 26-05-2014, 12:50 AM   #47
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1.20 pm NO London results ......bastards fixing the figures ...a "Common Purpose" no doubt ....its another election Fraud going on ...
Its tower hamlets holding London up, so prior form on vote fraud. Its not about fixing the vote, its about sweating it trying to decide if they can get away with it
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Old 26-05-2014, 12:52 AM   #48
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Don't make the mistake of thinking the Lib Dem electorate, or party activists, are ALL europhiles like Nick Clegg. After all the lib dems have changed policies with the wind and its only under Clegg's leadership the party has been crucified on the altar of europhilia. This is especially true in Cornwall and Devon, Lib Dem stongholds for the last 2 decades where there is strong eurosceptcism and now, one hell of a strong UKIP vote

The real picture here is that labours vote in 2009 took an absolute kicking given the bailout of the banks, the expenses scandals, and Gordon "man who waited" brown being a boring bastard. given the likelyhood of their voters beleiving the lies about UKIP being racist/fascist and disgust at government austerity, Labour was always going to gain seats at the co-alitions expense. But they have gained only half of what they would have done if UKIP wasnt now on the ballot paper, and UKIP has taken gains off all of them. It looks like the overall Euro Vote is coming down @ 24% Tory 24% Labour and 30% UKIP: that doesnt look like translating into a labour gov in 2015

This is why my view is the most promising chance for real change is to do everything to encourage those who voted UKIP on thursday to vote UKIP again, to encourage many who have not voted for many elections to vote their conscience for the next GE, and to encourage those who WANT the EU and want the socialist superstate to vote Green not Labour

The prize would be a national vote truly on the issues representing a real peoples choice between sovereign state or client province, resolve the EU issue, and the destruction of the Oxford/Cambridge/LSE political elite, removing them from power, hopefully for good
OK I guess the engagment is over ...but happy to give you a blow job .
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Old 26-05-2014, 12:55 AM   #49
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Its tower hamlets holding London up, so prior form on vote fraud. Its not about fixing the vote, its about sweating it trying to decide if they can get away with it
quite ....its a fucking fix ....
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I give up I'm. Sickened by what I see tonight but take some solice in seeing snp top the
Results table in Scotland

It's all about September Indy vote now
so Scotland does have a UKIP MEP ...the one one you said would NEVER happen 'get over it ....
Grannie I'm afraid I have to conclude vorwahr doesnt know up from down. Like a teen in a rebel without a clue fight with his father, he would accept ANYTHING as long as Westminster leaves him the fuck alone. EU enslavement? Fuck it!:

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Did you elect or vote ukip in Eu elections ?
If you did
Tell me how that makes him unelected beurocrat in the eu
And tell me if you where aware who votes in the chairman of the eu ?

Salmond cant decide for the Scots people
That will be done in the first Scots general election
And as Scotland is predominantly a labour and and snp nation with some green and lib dems voters I expect majority is pro Eu
Anyway

Ukip as a uk party would drag these people out of the eu using English votes
In a uk refrendum ,
Explain to me how that is democratic compared to Eu legislation we doby seem to have a problem with ?
So the upshot of it is, you want to be rid of westminster, which is only half the government it used to be and unless there is an EU exit fast, will not be a government at all by 2020. And part of your reason for wanting to do that is you believe "the english" will stop Scotland becoming a province in the Superstate of the EU. And you want to be rid of Westminster so much, because 300 years of being part of a political union with its base at the opposite end of the geographical island has been so terrible for Scots, that you don't care a fig that many of the people pushing for a Scottish vote already have "no problem" with the EU and are happy for Scotland to be governed from across the sea on another continent

Well if you are the representative sample of Pro Independence Scots, there can be no doubt Scotland might get a divorce, but its not going to be able to be free. Instead its going to be from one abusive marriage straight into another, this time even worse

How old are you vorwahr? I'm going to guess not in your 30's yet. And if that's right, and things play out as you THINK they will, your going to have a good few decades of bitter regret to live with, because you are clearly unable to step back be objective and acknowledge the game being played

Lets hope you are wrong and Scotland has a better future than mindless ideology can deliver it
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Old 26-05-2014, 12:58 AM   #51
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Nick Griffin has tweeted he's no longer elected as an MEP and UKIP seem to be surging forward.
Lib Dems lost three MEPs so far.
That's a shame. UKIP was created by the establishment to destroy the BNP.
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quite ....its a fucking fix ....
Amuses me to imagine the "right on" frantically trying to UNFIX the vote so they can announce it and GTFO of the spotlight.... stranger things might even be true!
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Ah first London results... Greens splitting the Labour vote, something to encourage, and UKIP having some strong showings
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Old 26-05-2014, 01:08 AM   #54
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That's a shame. UKIP was created by the establishment to destroy the BNP.
No quite the opposite ....the BNP was funded by TPTB as a controlled opposition .......UKIP has been funded and created by the public ...We want change but not BNP punishment for poor EU members who have come to the UK.
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Grannie I'm afraid I have to conclude vorwahr doesnt know up from down. Like a teen in a rebel without a clue fight with his father, he would accept ANYTHING as long as Westminster leaves him the fuck alone. EU enslavement? Fuck it!:
Ok smart arse you've ukip in the eu think you're going to leave it now ?
Look at the uk wide stats and take a ukip vote as a guide to leaving the eu
At best ukip has enough voters to form a coalition
With Tories
That anti Eu vote combined would nt take the uk out of europe

So what have you achieved ?

Ukip voters have demonstrated a level of intelligence on par with a plank of wood
Well done give yourselves a pat on the back for voting into europe the one party who
Will do less in there for you than even the lib dems did
How fucking clever are yours .
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Ok smart arse you've ukip in the eu think you're going to leave it now ?
Look at the uk wide stats and take a ukip vote as a guide to leaving the eu
At best ukip has enough voters to form a coalition
With Tories
That anti Eu vote combined would nt take the uk out of europe

So what have you achieved ?

Ukip voters have demonstrated a level of intelligence on par with a plank of wood
Well done give yourselves a pat on the back for voting into europe the one party who
Will do less in there for you than even the lib dems did
How fucking clever are yours .

I dunno, Thatcher with the Tories saved us a heck of a lot of money in the 80's. We got a big fat rebate from the EU. We still get it.

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No quite the opposite ....the BNP was funded by TPTB as a controlled opposition .......UKIP has been funded and created by the public ...We want change but not BNP punishment for poor EU members who have come to the UK.
Hasn't the BNP been around since the 1970s?
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Ok smart arse you've ukip in the eu think you're going to leave it now ?
Look at the uk wide stats and take a ukip vote as a guide to leaving the eu
At best ukip has enough voters to form a coalition
With Tories
That anti Eu vote combined would nt take the uk out of europe

So what have you achieved ?

Ukip voters have demonstrated a level of intelligence on par with a plank of wood
Well done give yourselves a pat on the back for voting into europe the one party who
Will do less in there for you than even the lib dems did
How fucking clever are yours .
oh dear is this what Irn Bru does for the brain ......
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That anti Eu vote combined would nt take the uk out of europe
Hmm UKIP 30% tories 24% = 54% voting intention to leave the EU. Yes it would.

And yes I do seem to be smart enough to allow you to make yourself look a bit silly.

Not your enemy kid, but you definitely come across as your own
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Old 26-05-2014, 01:23 AM   #60
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Hasn't the BNP been around since the 1970s?
Yes but it was bought out ....thats how things work in Politics ..UKIP will never sell out ..Murdoch tried to buy Farage , he said NO...then they attacked him and UKIP with every story.

UKIP+ 100
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