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Old 23-11-2014, 06:28 PM   #1
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"The defendant has said things that are simply stupid"
That is what the judge said.
Another Sov ends up in jail.
http://www.chicoer.com/general-news/...federal-prison

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Old 23-11-2014, 08:39 PM   #3
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Could be me............................ but..........................
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Well,having looked at Felix's link,I have to say that I'm apalled by the oh so typical behaviour of the so called 'authorities' !! Note the repeated use of the word 'federal'....
Typical bully boy behaviour by these so called 'authorities'.... It comes down to this: ''If you don't allow 'us' to steal a proprtion of your hard earned money,we are going to ruin your life.''.

We need a WAR to deal with these downright bullies / thieves ! They are not going to pay attention any other way.

Having said that,it does seem that he was tempting fate by going after them in that manner. Guaranteed to make them go off on one.....He needs to use vastly different tactics!
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Old 24-11-2014, 01:28 PM   #5
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Could be me............................ but..........................
Eh ??
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We need a WAR to deal with these downright bullies / thieves ! They are not going to pay attention any other way.
You complain that TPTB will use physical force to ensure they get their own way and yet you advocate exactly the same behaviour that you criticise so that you may get your own way.
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Old 24-11-2014, 02:23 PM   #7
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Eh ??
Look at him, do you think he's ever broken the reins of structure?
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Old 24-11-2014, 02:30 PM   #8
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Look at him, do you think he's ever broken the reins of structure?
Wow. Note gremlin's logical fallacy.
He judges people on appearance.
Attacking the arguer and not the argument eh gremlin?
No surprises there. That's all you have.
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Old 24-11-2014, 07:40 PM   #9
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Well,having looked at Felix's link,I have to say that I'm apalled by the oh so typical behaviour of the so called 'authorities' !! Note the repeated use of the word 'federal'....
Typical bully boy behaviour by these so called 'authorities'.... It comes down to this: ''If you don't allow 'us' to steal a proprtion of your hard earned money,we are going to ruin your life.''.

We need a WAR to deal with these downright bullies / thieves ! They are not going to pay attention any other way.
Really?

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Having said that,it does seem that he was tempting fate by going after them in that manner. Guaranteed to make them go off on one.....
But you just advocated war against `authorities`.

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So not a war then? Such as?
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"During the trial, Molen, who represented himself, was ordered not to assert that IRS officers aren’t government employees and that the tax code only applies to Washington, D.C. and federal territories."

lol....i guess they cant explain that they are god in a clear enough fashion.
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"During the trial, Molen, who represented himself, was ordered not to assert that IRS officers aren’t government employees and that the tax code only applies to Washington, D.C. and federal territories."

lol....i guess they cant explain that they are god in a clear enough fashion.
Derrr. It was a trial with a jury.
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"During the trial, Molen, who represented himself, was ordered not to assert that IRS officers aren’t government employees and that the tax code only applies to Washington, D.C. and federal territories."

lol....i guess they cant explain that they are god in a clear enough fashion.
The judge is known to tell the jury about the laws and who are the jury going to believe!! Yeah precisely.
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The judge is known to tell the jury about the laws and who are the jury going to believe!! Yeah precisely.
Would you prefer a system where the defendant attempts to convince the jury what the law is? The jury interpreting law? Yeah that would work wouldn't it? Yesterday a jury in Nottingham decided you do not need a driving licence to drive a car and found the defendant not guilty. Today a jury in Liverpool decided you do need a licence to drive and found the defendant guilty however a jury in Bristol decided you do not need a licence and that defendant was found not guilty. Tomorrow defendants in Newcastle, Manchester, Birmingham, Plymouth Norwich and Cambridge will present their arguments knowing the law will not be applied uniformly across the country. Great system that is, gremlin. You go straight to the top of the class.

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The judge is known to tell the jury about the laws and who are the jury going to believe!! Yeah precisely.

If a jury of people in court decide that he should be paying tax, then that is what the majority of his peers have decided. The judge knowing the law and telling the jury is irrelevant because they could have chosen to not find the man guilty of not paying taxes but he did not have a valid defence and the jury considered it wrong of him to not pay taxes.

`Freemen` who think they can avoid paying taxes are in the minority- the majority believe that the freemen should pay taxes and their arguments for not paying it are invalid.
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You complain that TPTB will use physical force to ensure they get their own way and yet you advocate exactly the same behaviour that you criticise so that you may get your own way.
Hey....what's good for the goose etc......

The problem is that the vast majority of people (in the U.K.) are so stupid and conditioned that they would happily go to their own demise.......whilst making sure that they weren't going to be breaking any 'laws' to get themselves out of the shit ! I despair,really I do....
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But you just advocated war against `authorities`.



So not a war then? Such as?
Ermm.......who are you,exactly ?? Another of Felix's 'colleagues' maybe !?
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If a jury of people in court decide that he should be paying tax, then that is what the majority of his peers have decided. The judge knowing the law and telling the jury is irrelevant because they could have chosen to not find the man guilty of not paying taxes but he did not have a valid defence and the jury considered it wrong of him to not pay taxes.
Of course the jury will find someone guilty for not paying taxes. I wouldn't expect anything less.

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`Freemen` who think they can avoid paying taxes are in the minority- the majority believe that the freemen should pay taxes and their arguments for not paying it are invalid.
Freeman know they their is no law to pay taxes. The majority are clueless to what is going. CLUELESS.
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Ermm.......who are you,exactly ?? Another of Felix's 'colleagues' maybe !?
I wanted to say that.

Bit weird isn't it to say the least.
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The problem is that the vast majority of people (in the U.K.) are so stupid and conditioned that they would happily go to their own demise.......
The only people I see on here who are "stupid" and "conditioned" are those who have fallen for the lies of the internet conmen. You can actually watch them go to their own demise in real time:

http://worldfreemansociety.ca/forum/...romissory-note

That is another example of someone who fell for the bullshit and fucked up his life. He lost his home because he was stupid enough to believe the lies.

BTW how is that court case of yours going that you told us about months ago? You know the one, the one you said you are taking to Queen's Bench.

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If a jury of people in court decide that he should be paying tax, then that is what the majority of his peers have decided. The judge knowing the law and telling the jury is irrelevant because they could have chosen to not find the man guilty of not paying taxes but he did not have a valid defence and the jury considered it wrong of him to not pay taxes.

`Freemen` who think they can avoid paying taxes are in the minority- the majority believe that the freemen should pay taxes and their arguments for not paying it are invalid.
your second paragraph has nothing to do with your first. unless the jury are freemen. that would be a can of worms now wouldn't it?
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