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Old 05-08-2008, 01:37 PM   #61
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Does anyone know the start date?
This is the latest news I've seen. I've also read an article somewhere that explained how it gathers momentum over time (months?) before it arrives at its 'optimum' state for advanced functions/detection and that it will more than likely be next year before the 'God Particle' results start coming in.

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The European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) is preparing for its first small tests in early August, leading to a planned full-track test in September - and the first planned particle collisions before the end of the year.
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Old 05-08-2008, 01:48 PM   #62
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These guys are doing a countdown to the start up. Not sure how official it is though.

http://www.lhcountdown.com/
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Old 05-08-2008, 05:25 PM   #63
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These guys are doing a countdown to the start up. Not sure how official it is though.

http://www.lhcountdown.com/
08-08-08?!

(If I worked it out right! )
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Old 05-08-2008, 05:29 PM   #64
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:44 AM   #65
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08-08-08?!

(If I worked it out right! )

Shit! Tomorrow!

But LB is correct, the system will take months to power up. They've already got particles spinning in the smallest ring; this one will then be shunted off to the medium size ring and then finally to the full-sized LHC ring.

Here's the latest press release:

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A date for the start up of the LHC is still to be announced.

As of the beginning of August 2008 we expect low energy proton beams to be injected into the LHC in early September.

This major milestone in the LHC project will be covered live by international broadcasters. UK media organisations will be at CERN and at a simultaneous media event in London.

Proton beams have already been delivered to within a few metres of the LHC itself, but beams will be injected for the first time on the official start up day. If everything proceeds according to plan the beam will circulate all the way around the 27 km long LHC. Only one beam, travelling in one direction, will be injected. Over the following months the LHC scientists and engineers will commission the LHC, running beams at higher energy and in both directions. Subject to everything proceeding as planned the LHC may begin collisions using relatively low energy (5TeV) beams towards the end of 2008. (Source: http://www.lhc.ac.uk/latest-news.html)
So it's now early next month. This is like Zeno's Paradox! If they're going to destroy the world, why don't they just get on with it!
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:48 AM   #66
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It won't be like this!:


Or this:

This was part of a BBC Horizon bullshit scaremongering programme:
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:35 AM   #67
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Here's how the LHC's warming up process works. This process of speeding up the hadrons to such high speeds takes months. But it is necessary because the collider has to overcome the strong nuclear force:

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Old 07-08-2008, 11:20 AM   #68
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http://www.virginmedia.com/digital/s...p?vmsrc=vmhpld according to this link it gets switched on this saterday.sorry i didnt know ther was allready a thread about this,ive posted about it in the general section.a group of folk from around the world are also doing this experiment on the same day http://www.entheogenic-portal.com/ .i dont know mutch about this hadron collider,or black holes for that matter,but i do know i wouldnt want to be around one.i just dont get this thing,if black holes can destroy full planets,why would anyone one with half a brain try to create one on earth.am i missing something.
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:26 AM   #69
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http://www.virginmedia.com/digital/s...p?vmsrc=vmhpld according to this link it gets switched on this saterday.sorry i didnt know ther was allready a thread about this,ive posted about it in the general section.a group of folk from around the world are also doing this experiment on the same day http://www.entheogenic-portal.com/ .i dont know mutch about this hadron collider,or black holes for that matter,but i do know i wouldnt want to be around one.i just dont get this thing,if black holes can destroy full planets,why would anyone one with half a brain try to create one on earth.am i missing something.
Thanks for brining it to this thread , i was going to post your links here
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:28 AM   #70
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Yes thanks- and thanks to all who have contributed- you've all really assisted in my education of this subject and im thoroughly enjoying it!!
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:03 PM   #71
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If I had to guess I'd say that the most "Sci-fi" outcome of the LHC would be the observation of particle time travel through the generation of micro wormholes.

Of course if I'm wrong and the blackholes join up I'll buy everyone here a pint afterwards.

BTW £4.65 billion to recreate the Universe, makes you wonder what they could do with the $32 billion black budget.
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:15 PM   #72
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CERN to start up super-accelerator on September 10


AFP - 8 minutes ago

GENEVA (AFP) - European particle physics laboratory CERN said Thursday it will start up its massive particle accelerator on September 10 hoping that it could throw light on the origins of the universe.

The so-called Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is the greatest experiment in the history of particle physics.

Scientists are banking that it will confirm the existence of a sub-atomic component -- the Higgs Boson, known as "the God Particle" -- that would fill in the last missing piece of the so-called Standard Model of particle physics.

A gamble costing six billion Swiss francs (almost six billion dollars, 3.9 billion euros) that has harnessed the labours of more than 2,000 physicists from nearly three dozen countries, the LHC is the biggest, most powerful high-energy particle accelerator ever built.

Beams of hydrogen protons will whizz around at near-light speed in opposite directions until, bent by powerful superconducting magnets, they will smash together in four bus-sized detector chambers, where they will be annihilated at temperatures hotter than the sun.

"Starting up such a machine is not as simple as flipping a switch," the laboratory said in a statement.

The commissioning starts with the cooling down of each of the machine's eight sectors, then electrical testing of the 1,600 superconducting magnets, after which each sector's circuits, and then the sectors themselves, are powered together so the LHC can operate as a single machine.

"We're finishing a marathon with a sprint," said LHC project leader Lyn Evans.

"It's been a long haul, and we're all eager to get the LHC research programme underway."

However, there are unlikely to be any immediate discoveries once the LHC is set in motion.

"We will accumulate data for two years and it will take a lot of time to interpret," CERN's director general Robert Aymar said back in May.
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just wondering if anybody knew that Brian Cox,the keyboardist from a sad pop group from a few years ago called D:REAM ? he is a experimental physicist at the LHC facility .i just think its a strange carer move for a pop tart.
They always have this guy talking about how safe it is .im wondering if thats why he was in a pop group ?, to be a recognized person to say its safe when the time came ?
here is the wiki page of him
d:ream's famous song is called "Things can only get better'

just seams strange to me and thought i would share
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just wondering if anybody knew that Brian Cox,the keyboardist from a sad pop group from a few years ago called D:REAM ? he is a experimental physicist at the LHC facility .i just think its a strange carer move for a pop tart.
They always have this guy talking about how safe it is .im wondering if thats why he was in a pop group ?, to be a recognized person to say its safe when the time came ?
here is the wiki page of him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cox_%28physicist%29
d:ream's famous song is called "Things can only get better'

just seams strange to me and thought i would share
Well his nickname is "the Rock Star Physicist"!
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Old 08-08-2008, 08:35 AM   #75
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BBC new report on the beginning of the powering up process in the main ring of the LHC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7547118.stm

The scientists at the LHC are about to switch the machine on for the first time. They will begin injecting the first hadron beam over the weekend. This doesn't mean we can all heave a sigh of relief when nothing happens then though. It will take many months to bring the LHC up to full power, in the range where mini black holes and strangelets could be generated. The first circulation will begin on September the 10th and it's going to be a big media event.
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Illustrated radio show of Professor Walter Wagner on C2C:


This subject is starting to freak me out! I've been watching these vids:
Does this desperate "Gotterdammerung" action mean that we're getting close to freedom? It's not fair! We're so close! Karl Marx used to say: "We have a world to win". I'd like to change that to "We have a world to save!"
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BBC new report on the beginning of the powering up process in the main ring of the LHC:

The first circulation will begin on September the 10th and it's going to be a big media event.
Bit ritualistic wouldnt you say?
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just wondering if anybody knew that Brian Cox,the keyboardist from a sad pop group from a few years ago called D:REAM ? he is a experimental physicist at the LHC facility .i just think its a strange carer move for a pop tart.
They always have this guy talking about how safe it is .im wondering if thats why he was in a pop group ?, to be a recognized person to say its safe when the time came ?
here is the wiki page of him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cox_%28physicist%29
d:ream's famous song is called "Things can only get better'

just seams strange to me and thought i would share

You mean this guy?


Gets a bit shitty when he's asked about the 'fake moon landings'....
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