The intelligence services and the erosion of democracy

[madbomber]

Long before David Icke spoke about Kincora, the late Paul Foot did his damnedest to expose the filth that ran it and other black ops in Northern Ireland. I recommend his book 'Who Framed Colin Wallace' which delves into the black arts practiced by MI-5 and their hangers-on. It's pretty stomach-churning stuff.

[iamawaveofthesea]

Hilary Clinton has become a major liability for the entire US establishment not only for her corrupt foundation in whcih many establishment people are embroiled in various nefarious schemes but also this from davids headlines today:

Insiders Threaten To Expose “Alleged” Pedophile Sex Ring!!!
All of the following information was given to us by our insiders who have specific first-hand knowledge of the Hillary Email scandal. It seems that things are about to heat up. We are told that of the 662,871 emails lifted from Weiner’s computer, 11,112 emails are Huma… and pay to play- including Saudis and Israeli’s. Meaning Huma was the one Hillary USED to communicate with foreign leaders via email for inside information and deals via Huma’s computer.

It has been established through many avenues, but mainly through Wikileaks, that the Clinton Foundation was just a farce set up in order to perform Pay-to-Play games with multiple entities, including foreign nations. Pay-to-play nations include: Israel, Saudis, Turks, Qatar, kazakhstan, and the Ukraine.


Futhermore, we are told by one of our insiders that one email unequivocally confirms Isis was created by CIA and Israeli Secret Intelligence service, with help from Joe Lieberman, John McCain and Lindsay Graham!

An NYPD insider said the content they viewed did include State Department TOP SECRET emails. One file was called “Life Insurance”. The second email was titled “DNC Nuclear arsenal”.

A third file, I’m sure Hillary definitely DOES NOT want released was a file labeled “Intimate” … according to this NYPD insider, this file contained x rated photos of Huma and Hillary with a TEENAGER.

NYPD detectives were sickened by what they saw, according to our insider, and they have threatened FBI field agents that they would leak this information, if the FBI did not “step up and take off the kids gloves”. At that point, 13 of the FBI agents in NYC are also threatening to leak the information.

As you can imagine, the scandal has the entire Obama Administration in full panic. We are told there are emails that could send Loretta Lynch to prison, as well as Bill and Hillary.The Twitter post to the right, our sources sent us, verifying it is all true:
http://victuruslibertas.com/2016/10/...veal-sex-ring/

Isn't it time the FBI did their job and investigated hilary properly?

[vancity eagle]

The elites are just burning smaller fish because the enraged public wants some blood.

So they will give you small fish to feast on and think that you are making a difference.

No difference will be made in truth. Not even a tiny dent. But this is all about public perception, and the perception that "corruption" is being weeded out.

The whole campaign against the Clintons is entirely orchestrated by groups like the CNP, former Washington insiders to the Reagan and Nixon administrations, even the Bushes.

There has been an organized attack on the Clinton family from elements of the far right wing of the Republican party and the intelligence corners. This goes back to Bill Clinton.

The funny thing is is that the characters behind this attack are the ones who orchestrated Iran/Contra and flooded the US with cocaine during the Reagan administration. They blamed Bill Clinton for his dealings in Mena Arkansas, but he was largely just covering up for these same elements who have now blamed him for the affair while sheilding Reagan the CIA and elements within the CNP and other organizations. These guys were also funding Jihadists in Afghanistan and terrorists death squads in Latin America and Africa.

Funny that these guys are the ones behind attempting to make the Clintons out to be much bigger players than they really are.

Scapegoating 101. When members of the elite are being hung out to dry on the MSM, its because bigger fish are orchestrating it for a specific reason. We saw similar when Strauss Kahn the IMF chief had a rape scandal, or when that one governor who was anti-banker had a prostitute scandal to destroy his character. Bill Clinton had the Monika Lewinsky scandal to force him to bomb Kosovo. Thats how these things work.

Anyways I doubt the Clintons see any significant punishment, but their name brand will be forever sullied.

The masses will believe they have struck a great blow against corruption and "the system".

How wrong they are.

[iamawaveofthesea]

Assange: WikiLeaks did not receive Clinton emails from Russian govt (JOHN PILGER EXCLUSIVE)
Published time: 3 Nov, 2016 05:00

Assange, who gave the interview in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, where he has been for four years, also accused the US presidential candidate of being a pawn of behind-the-scenes interests, and voiced doubts about her physical fitness to take charge of the White House.

“Hillary Clinton is just one person. I actually feel quite sorry for Hillary Clinton as a person, because I see someone who is eaten alive by their ambitions, tormented literally to the point where they become sick – for example faint – as a result of going on, and going with their ambitions. But she represents a whole network of people, and a whole network of relationships with particular states.”
https://www.rt.com/news/365164-assan...ileaks-russia/

[iamawaveofthesea]

Originally Posted by vancity eagle

The funny thing is is that the characters behind this attack are the ones who orchestrated Iran/Contra and flooded the US with cocaine during the Reagan administration. They blamed Bill Clinton for his dealings in Mena Arkansas, but he was largely just covering up for these same elements who have now blamed him for the affair while sheilding Reagan the CIA and elements within the CNP and other organizations. These guys were also funding Jihadists in Afghanistan and terrorists death squads in Latin America and Africa.

the people behind 'the enterpise' ie the deep state elements behind the iran contra affair were the CFR; the CFR people also supported clinton

clinton has become too toxic even for them to cover up

[paddy_blake]

Council for National Policy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counci...ational_Policy

The Council for National Policy (CNP), is an umbrella organization and networking group for social conservative activists in the United States. It has been described by The New York Times as "a little-known club of a few hundred of the most powerful conservatives in the country," who meet three times yearly behind closed doors at undisclosed locations for a confidential conference.[1] Nation magazine has called it a secretive organization that "networks wealthy right-wing donors together with top conservative operatives to plan long-term movement strategy."[2] It was founded in 1981 by Tim LaHaye as a forum for conservative Christians seeking to strengthen the political right in the United States.

Members of the CNP have included: General John Singlaub, shipping magnate J. Peter Grace, Edwin J. Feulner Jr of the Heritage Foundation, Rev. Pat Robertson of the Christian Broadcasting Network, Jerry Falwell, U.S. Senator Trent Lott, Southern Baptist Convention activists and retired Texas Court of Appeals Judge Paul Pressler, lawyer and paleoconservative activist Michael Peroutka,[5] Reverend Paige Patterson ,[6] Senator Don Nickles, former United States Attorneys General Ed Meese and John Ashcroft, gun-rights activist Larry Pratt, Col. Oliver North, and philanthropist Elsa Prince, mother of Erik Prince, former California State Assemblyman Steve Baldwin,[7] and the founder of the Blackwater private security firm.

[iamawaveofthesea]

Originally Posted by paddy_blake

Cou
ncil for National Policy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counci...ational_Policy

its just another wing of the same hidden hand behind the system

Vancity seems to think the authoritarian left and the authoritarian right are seperate from each other

they aren't...the cabal controls both ends

But vancity is anti-white and hates conservatives so his agenda is to only speak about and to only demonise the conservative aspect of the cabal

David Icke "Trump V Clinton Is Just A Circus Designed To Hide The Reality Of The System!"

[iamawaveofthesea]

Assassination studies - Kennedy knew a coup was coming

[stargategazer]

Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea

Some of the things that the people in the clips said were pretty alarming about the kind of people who are being allowed such state power in the UK. They used a number of words to describe what they saw as going on: vindictive, corruption, paranoid, acting in personal interests

These kind of character traits along with the accompanying behaviours outlined which included murders, smearing, character assasination, fit ups etc are the hall marks of psychopaths

They are the traits which we also see behind various occult orders and their agendas. There is a profile that begins to emerge of the people who are behind the various crimes committed through the system

They are invariably: cynical and believe that all people are essentially bad, vindictive and seek revenge against any perceived slights, snide in their derision of others, ambitious careerists who put their own interests before that of the greater whole, corrupt and egotistical in that they believe their interests trump all else

These are narcissistic character traits. People exhibiting these traits tend to have very sharp elbows and are very good at lying, fighting, cheating and even murdering their way to the top of organisations from where they then impose their will on everyone else. They recruit other people who also exhibit low empathy so that they will follow orders and they create negative cultures of fear around themselves

They are like a cancer that poisons the organisation they are in as well as the wider community by pushing out more principled people and then trying to pull everyone else down to their own debased view of humanity

They want to make humanity as base as they believe them to be and will attempt to achieve that by creating as negative environment for people to live in as possible thereby encouraging the worst from people

These types are easy to manipulate and control. They are souless, unprincipled and lacking empathy but ultimately they and their their ilk will assist our waking up from the stupor that we are in because I do not feel that any of us are victims. We are just ignorant to the possibility that these types are what we invite in to run our institutions, corporations and ultimately our lives if we abdicate our responsibility to do it ourselves. Thank you for sharing

[iamawaveofthesea]

Systematic ‘fake news’ Planted By Britain’s Intelligence Services
2nd January 2017 / United Kingdom

Jones adds other sources who make much the same point: Richard Keeble, professor of journalism at the University of Lincoln, … has written on the history of the links between journalists and the intelligence services. … He quotes Roy Greenslade, who has been a media specialist for both the Telegraph and the Guardian [and is a former editor of the Mirror newspaper], as saying: “Most tabloid newspapers – or even newspapers in general – are playthings of MI5 [Britain’s FBI].” Keeble goes on to say:

“Bloch and Fitzgerald, in their examination of covert UK warfare, report the editor of ‘one of Britain’s most distinguished journals’ as believing that more than half its foreign correspondents were on the MI6 payroll [the British equivalent of the CIA – my emphasis]. And in 1991, Richard Norton-Taylor revealed in the Guardian that 500 prominent Britons paid by the CIA and the now defunct Bank of Commerce and Credit International, included 90 journalists.”

Keeble has given many more examples in his book chapter of the intelligence services infiltrating the media and changing the politics of the time, including around the miners strikes and Arthur Scargill in the 1980s and during the lead-up to the Iraq war in 2003. …

David Leigh, former investigations editor of The Guardian, wrote about a series of instances in which the secret services manipulated prominent journalists. He claims reporters are routinely approached and manipulated by intelligence agents and identifies three ways – providing examples for each in his article – in which they do it:

They attempt to recruit journalists to spy on other people or themselves attempt to go under journalistic “cover.”

They allow intelligence officers to pose as journalists “to write tendentious articles under false names.”

And “the most malicious form”: they plant intelligence agency propaganda stories on willing journalists who disguise their origin from readers.
http://truepublica.org.uk/united-kin...ence-services/

[iamawaveofthesea]

With Rule 41 the FBI Is Now Officially the Enemy of All Computer Users

[iamawaveofthesea]

British military’s online trolling unit fails to attract enough recruits
Published time: 3 Jan, 2017 17:24
Edited time: 3 Jan, 2017 17:24

The British military’s secretive internet trolling unit has failed to meet its recruitment targets despite a high-profile campaign, according to new figures.

Freedom of information requests by the Register show that the much-hyped unit is 40 percent understrength.

The unit is meant to be 448-strong with 182 full-time service personnel combined with 266 reservists. The current strength is just 276.

This means the 77 Brigade, which is named after a famous WW2 jungle fighting unit, has a shortfall of 29 regular personnel and 143 part-timers. The figures suggest that in the last 12 months only 125 people were recruited.
https://www.rt.com/uk/372575-army-cy...ampaign=chrome

[grandmasterp]

Any time we get these exposes of a 'security agency' I get to wondering if the security service hasn't planted the expose for their own purposes.
By definition - at any given time - a secret service knows a lot more than we ever know.
Secrets being their business and all.

[iamawaveofthesea]

Originally Posted by grandmasterp

Any time we get these exposes of a 'security agency' I get to wondering if the security service hasn't planted the expose for their own purposes.
By definition - at any given time - a secret service knows a lot more than we ever know.
Secrets being their business and all.

It's in russias interest to print a story in RT about how the british government is hiring people to go online to try and disrupt online discourse or sow false narratives, so i don't think it is the british intelligence seeding information about their recruitment problems!

Why do you have a saturn symbol as your avatar? I hope you don't think that by showing the square and compass as knives and forks that DIF members won't see through that 'grandmaster'?

[vancity eagle]

Originally Posted by grandmasterp

Any time we get these exposes of a 'security agency' I get to wondering if the security service hasn't planted the expose for their own purposes.
By definition - at any given time - a secret service knows a lot more than we ever know.
Secrets being their business and all.

this is very often the truth.

In fact pretty much the entire "truth movement" is an elite controlled "expose" to further agendas of the deep state.

[grandmasterp]

Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea

It's in russias interest to print a story in RT about how the british government is hiring people to go online to try and disrupt online discourse or sow false narratives, so i don't think it is the british intelligence seeding information about their recruitment problems!

Why do you have a saturn symbol as your avatar? I hope you don't think that by showing the square and compass as knives and forks thuat DIF members won't see through that 'grandmaster'?

I nicked that avatar off another forum and put it on here earlier today.
Fancied a New Year change of avatar.
Glad it is already working.
Yep it is two knives and two forks.
To me.

[iamawaveofthesea]

Originally Posted by grandmasterp

I nicked that avatar off another forum and put it on here earlier today.
Fancied a New Year change of avatar.
Glad it is already working.
Yep it is two knives and two forks.
To me.

ok so i'm telling you it is a freemasonic symbol of the square and compass, also known as the sigil of saturn

so i'm wondering why you would want to expose people to that energy field?

[grandmasterp]

Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea

ok so i'm telling you it is a freemasonic symbol of the square and compass, also known as the sigil of saturn

so i'm wondering why you would want to expose people to that energy field?

Two knives.
Two forks.
All the rest mate.
Lives in your own head.
Tea time now, I am off to dine.
Bon appetit.

[iamawaveofthesea]

Originally Posted by grandmasterp

Two knives.
Two forks.
All the rest mate.
Lives in your own head.
Tea time now, I am off to dine.
Bon appetit.

no it isn't just two knives and two forks; it's a symbol with a specific meaning

don't insult peoples intelligence

[the mighty zhiba]

Originally Posted by iamawaveofthesea

ok so i'm telling you it is a freemasonic symbol of the square and compass, also known as the sigil of saturn

so i'm wondering why you would want to expose people to that energy field?

OC it is, it might be knives and forks, but it is also the Square and Compass... And OC GMP knows what it is, what it looks like and what it actually is... He is being a mischievous elf again.

But lets not get too bogged down with personalities

Interestingly the term 'inteligence' - when we observe the Latin root, is a prep from the assimilated form of inter "between" & legere "choose, pick out, read". the etymology of inter, is a word forming element meaning specifically 'within' (between, among, during) and then legere - to choose or specify.

It is an interestng term because inteligence is specifically a definition of choose-between - or more succinctly, when applied to inteligence agency - an infiltration of an agent (one who acts within, within) with a capacity of observation through applied choice... Ie specifically what is needed to be observed or read... And this is confounded by legere, or more modern ledger....

Let me do a bit more thinking on that.