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Old 12-05-2018, 01:42 PM   #1
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Default NXIVM sex cult – Bronfman, Rothschild, Clinton and Trump

I had already posted about this in another thread, but today I noticed that Aangirfan posted a lot of additional information: http://aanirfan.blogspot.nl/2018/05/...ack-trump.html


According to some “alternative media” the NXIVM sex cult scandal of Keith Raniere and actress Allison Mack, which is now at the centre of a criminal probe into child sex trafficking, is covered up, because of its connection to the Clintons.

Keith Raniere and Allison Mack have both been arrested.

Maybe you’ve heard of Donald Trump’s unofficial advisor Roger Stone, who’s also connected to mass shooting magnet Sheriff Scott Israel, Roy Cohn, Paul Manafort and...
Roger Stone was paid by NXIVM to do an audit.

Roger Stone said it was evident that the NXIVM operation was bankrolled in large part by the Bronfman sisters, Sara and Clare Bronfman, heiresses to the multimillion-dollar Seagram's alcohol fortune.

Raniere’s organization also hired Doug Rutnik, father of Democratic Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, as a lobbyist. When Rutnik resigned, he signed a nondisclosure agreement: http://www.newsweek.com/roger-stone-...raniere-907558


Some women complained that Dr. Danielle Roberts burned brands on their lower abdomens during their initiations into a secret sorority within NXIVM.



Raniere has earlier been accused of sex abuse involving girls as young as 12.
The majority of funding for NXIVM, over $150 million, came from the trust funds of Sara and Clare Bronfman.

The Bronfman family has very close ties to the Rothschild banking dynasty, with members of both families belonging to many of the same companies, including their joint financial firm, Bronfman & Rothschild.
At Bronfman & Rothschild, Donald Trump’s, the Clinton's and Jeffrey Epstein’s friend, “Lady” Lynn Forester de Rothschild, is on the Board of Directors: https://thefreethoughtproject.com/al...-slavery-ring/


See good friends: Lynn Forester, Andrew Stein, and Donald Trump.


Edgar Bronfman Jr. is also in the “little black book” of pedo billionaire Jeffrey Epstein.

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Jesus Christ did you ever see LDR's twitter before she took it down? She hates Trump. They hate him with a passion.
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She hates Trump. They hate him with a passion.
I really don't understand why you "love" President Donald (you'll probably ignore once again that Wilbur Ross is a Rothschild agent, and the effective handler of Donald).

You’ll probably be happy that this time I add some information on the Clintons…

Keith Raniere graduated in Troy, New York, in 1982, having majored in physics, math, and biology.
In 1990, Raniere founded Consumers’ Buyline, a multi-level marketing company.
In 1998, together with NLP trainer Nancy Salzman, he founded Executive Success Programs (ESP).
ESP was a corporate self-help program. Many of its “graduates” reported amazing results. Its alumni include Sheila Johnson (co-founder of Black Entertainment Television); Antonia Novello (former U.S. surgeon general); Emiliano Salinas (son of Mexico’s former president Carlos Salinas); and Richard Branson.

See “Sir” Richard Branson with Sara Bronfman (EDIT - pic was removed).


In the fall of 2002, Sara Bronfman joined ESP (now called NXIVM) later joined by her sister Clare Bronfman.
In 2003, Sara’s and Clare’s billionaire father, Edgar Bronfman Sr, signed up for a five-day “V.I.P.” course, later he began private therapy sessions with Nancy Salzman.
When Clare told Edgar Sr. Bronfman that NXIVM had borrowed $2 million from her, Bronfman soon cut his ties with NXIVM. Sara and Clare Bronfman have donated as much as $150 million to NXIVM.
Most articles claim that Keith Raniere caused a rift between the sisters and daddy Edgar Bronfman Sr.

After a less than flattering article on NXIVM appeared, Toni Natalie warned Edgar Bronfman Sr for Keith Raniere.
Natalie learned that NXIVM hired the controversial Israeli-born private investigator Juval Aviv to spy on her private life and business activities.
Sara joined NXIVM’s executive board and was given the title of minister of humanities.

In 2003, 35-year-old Kristin Snyder disappeared after a NXIVM session in Alaska. Her body was never found, but in her truck a note was found:
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I was brainwashed and my emotional center of the brain was killed/turned off ... Please contact my parents ... if you find me or this note. I am sorry ... I didn’t know I was already dead.
In May 2009, Sara and Clare Bronfman arranged an appearance by the Dalai Lama for the NXIVM. Because both Skidmore College and Rensselaer Polytechnic declined to host the event, it was first cancelled, but then went ahead anyway (on 6 May 2009).
At one point his hypocriticalness Dalai Lama placed a scarf around Raniere’s neck to show his support for NXIVM.

Two weeks before the Dalai Lama in Albany event, NXIVM was threatened by a letter to Raniere and Salzman by 9 senior members, who resigned from the group, and demanded that NXIVM pay them $2.1 million it owed them. Clare and Sara’s financial manager, Barbara Bouchey, was among those who resigned. Bouchey was swiftly fired by the Bronfman sisters.
Bouchey copied evidence, before giving the originals back, because she believed that the Bronfmans were planning to “set me up”. Bouchey says she has evidence of “potentially illegal activities”. But was forbidden by the court from speaking about the Bronfmans’ financial dealings, so could offer no evidence.

In 2010, Joe O’Hara, NXIVM’s former consultant, alleged that NXIVM was involved in a variety of illegal activities, including tax evasion, money laundering, and immigration violations.
He also claimed that 2 Bronfman foundations misused tax-exempt funds, spending them on non-charitable purposes, including purchasing an expensive piano for Raniere: https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2...ronfman-201011
(archived here: http://archive.is/VsHtt)


Keith Raniere founded NXIVM in 1998, shortly after his Consumers' Buyline collapsed under allegations it was a pyramid scheme.

According to Kristen Keeffe, Raniere got Clare W. Bronfman access to Edgar Bronfman Sr's emails for a year, including emails with Hillary Clinton and world leaders with the World Jewish Congress (which Bronfman headed from 1981 to 2007).
Keeffe claims that Clare hacked into her father's email account using an email with a virus in the attachment.
Hillary Clinton and Edgar Bronfman became friends after meeting in the late 1990s. Hillary supported Bronfman in his successful efforts to get Swiss banks to pay billions of dollars to relatives of Holocaust victims. Edgar Bronfman also donated to Hillary’s campaign, including her 2008 presidential campaign.
In 1999, President Clinton awarded Bronfman a US Medal of Freedom. In 2004, Hillary sat next to Edgar Sr. at his 75th birthday celebration at Seagram headquarters in New York.

See Edgar Bronfman and the Clintons.


Keeffe left NXIVM in 2014.
Keeffe claimed top officials in NXIVM paid a Canadian investigative firm to investigate the financial records of 6 federal judges and US Sen. Chuck Schumer. According to Keeffe, the Canadian firm also obtained financial information on Edgar Bronfman and other officials of the Jewish World Congress.
In March 2009, the Canadian investigative firm Canaprobe Group sent an invoice to Clare Bronfman for $10,000 for "banking sweep services" of Rick A. Ross, who claims to be a "recognised expert" in cults and is also sued by NXIVM.

Former NXIVM executive board member Barbara Bouchey claims that NXIVM has dragged her into 13 lawsuits and filed a criminal complaint against her as retribution for defecting from the cult in 2009.
Keeffe also accused NXIVM officials of plotting to lure 4 women to Mexico in order to have them thrown in prison on false charges, including Bouchey; Toni Foley; and Susan Dones: https://www.timesunion.com/local/art...th-6576310.php
(archived here: http://archive.is/meHmD)


Actress India Oxenberg joined the NXVIM cult. India's mother, Catherine Oxenberg, is the daughter of Princess Elizabeth of Yugoslavia; Catherine also starred in Dynasty.
India Oxenberg's father, William Weitz Shaffer, pleaded guilty to smuggling illegal drugs into the US from Thailand, reportedly worth $50 million.

In 2017, both Christina Oxenberg and Shaffer told they fear for the well-being of their daughter, India Oxenberg, while she is in NXIVM.
Christina Oxenberg said:
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And I feel like she's easy prey, I think she's in danger. My heart is broken. I want my daughter back and I won't stop until I get her.
Former NXIVM member Sarah Edmondson, told about how women were branded and that she had to hand over naked photos and other compromising material to her “master” - Lauren Salzman – to keep her obedient.
According to Frank Parlato, former PR writer for NXIVM:
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India's being tortured and being held there with blackmail. She’s a victim.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...eave-cult.html

See Donald Trump with Christina Oxenberg (sister of Catherine).



Edgar Bronfman Jr., half-brother of Sara and Clare, is a member of Queen Elizabeth’s Committee of 300, and the chairman of Warner Music Group.
Charles Bronfman is also a member of the Committee of 300, and the owner of Seagram liquor, net worth $2 billion.
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Old 12-05-2018, 04:33 PM   #4
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Thanks Jimmy. You and Danny UK always post good, informative stuff. Were it not for this forum, I would never have heard of half of this.
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He hired a guy who worked for N M Rothschild and became a billionaire. That's your case he is owned by the Rothschilds'? How is it a fact that is his handler? Learn to separate fact from opinion. Trump likes people who "know where the bodies are buried" and are willing to cooperate. You think Ross probably knows anything useful against the R's?

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Thanks Jimmy. You and Danny UK always post good, informative stuff.
Thanks for the compliment; I often do my own investigations on topics. In this thread though, 90% is coming from Aangirfan.


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He hired a guy who worked for N M Rothschild and became a billionaire. That's your case he is owned by the Rothschilds'? How is it a fact that is his handler? Learn to separate fact from opinion.
Wilbur Ross worked no less that 24 years at the New York City office of N.M. Rothschild & Sons. Ross and Carl Icahn convinced bondholders to strike a deal with Trump that allowed Donald to keep “control” of the casinos (after he had gone bankrupt).

Wilbur Ross owns an apartment at River House in New York. Other occupants of River House are Henry Kissinger and Sir Evelyn de Rothschild and his wife Lynn Forester. Before he died, George Peterson, cofounder of the Blackstone Group and from 1985 – 2007 chairman of the CFR, also lived in River House.

Iit was none other than George Soros that was involved in a bankruptcy fraud with Donald Drumpf and in 2015 Soros was part of the investment group that funded the Cadre investment firm, of Ivanka Trump’s husband Jared Kushner, with $250 million: https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=320464


The Bronfman sisters’ World Ethical Foundation invited the Dalai Lama (he came on 6 May 2009) in return for a donation of more than $1 million.
See his hypocriticalness, after he placed a Tibetan scarf round the neck of Keith Raniere.


The deal was made by Sara Bronfman and Lama Tenzin Dhonden, head of the Dalai Lama's US trust.
See the Dalai Lama on stage at the NXIVM event, with Sara Bronfman circled (I think her sister Clare is sitting to her left), Albany, New York.


Sara first met Dhonden, in Idaho in 2007. In 2008, Dhonden visited Sara in Albany and met other NXIVM members, including Raniere.
According to Susan Dones, a former top ranking member of NXIVM, everybody in the cult knew that Sara and Dhonden were having an affair (even though Dhonden made a vow of chastity):
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They travelled together to California, to Seattle, to Silver Bay, and Necker Island.
They were clearly a couple, but this was hidden to outsiders, and probably the Dalai Lama, since Lama Tenzin was supposed to be a monk, and he would have been defrocked if they found out.
Frank Parlato said:
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He's clearly not a true monk because we all knew he was having an affair with Sara and it was ill disguised.
NXIVM members have said they had seen Lama Tenzin at Sara's house coming out of her bedroom, it was an open secret that they were having an affair, everyone was talking about it. Keith [Raniere] would call him Sara's 'husband'.
Sara Bronfman travelled with her mother Georgina Bronfman, Allison Mack and Lama Tonzin Dohnden to the private island of Virgin billionaire Richard Branson, Necker in the British Virgin Islands.
It’s also claimed that Sara bought Dhonden a house.

On 13 April 2009 the Dalai Lama wrote the foreword to a book co-authored by Raniere to boost sales.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-sex-cult.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/mnXbj)


Keith Raniere was arrested by Mexican federal police in a gated luxury community in Puerto Vallarta, end March, beginning April.
Raniere was surrounded by adoring women, including actresses Nicki Clyne of Battlestar Galactica and Allison Mack of Smallville.

The “slaves” were not only expected to please their master, but also to recruit more slaves.

Chet Hardin witnessed a meeting between Nicki Clyne and Ally Mack and former Troy Mayor Harry Tutunjian about setting up a non-profit in Troy related to NXIVM. The actresses began hanging out with Hardin’s friends.
Hardin knew about their donations to Hillary Clinton and close connections to Rensselaer County politicians.

NXIVM have used the services of the following prominent political figures: Roger Stone (Republican dirty trickster and long-time Trump advisor); Steve Pigeon (ally of Gov. Andrew Cuomo); Alphonse D’Amato (former US Senator); and Jack Casey (former Rensselaer County Republican Party Chairman).

According to Toni Natalie (who left NXIVM left in 1999), NXIVM is responsible for the death of Kristin Snyder, who took a 16-day NXIVM course in Alaska and then disappeared. Authorities ruled her death a “suicide “ (where have I heard that before?): http://thealt.com/2018/04/04/10552/


The following court document shows that the whole trial is kept secret.

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IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND AGREED by and between the undersigned attorneys and the defendants KEITH RANIERE, also known as “Vanguard,” and ALLISON MACK, and ORDERED by the Court, pursuant to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 16(d), that:
(…)
15. In the event any defendant, defense counsel or defense staff wishes to attach any Highly Sensitive Information to public filings with the Court, defense counsel must obtain consent of the government, or if such consent is not granted make an application to the Court for authorization to make such disclosure, and either (i) notify the government sufficiently in advance of the contemplated disclosure to permit briefing and argument on the propriety of such disclosure; or (ii) inform the Court in writing why it should decide the application ex parte without notice to the government;
https://frankreport.com/wp-content/u...aling-info.pdf

There is also a list of people or entities affiliated with Keith Raniere and Allison Mack:
DOS (or “The Vow” or “The Sorority”),
NXIVM CORPORATION DBA ESP;
FIRST PRINCIPLES INCORPORATED;
JNESS, LLC;
THE ETHICAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION,
EXO-ESO;
THE SOURCE;
ULTIMA LLC;
AXIOLOGY, INC.;
BUYER’S ADVOCATE, INC.;
EQUIPT CORP.;
NXV PROPERTY MANAGEMENT CORPORATION (NX PMC);
SUNSHINE PROPERTIES, INC.;
ELITE HOUSING CORP.;
ETHICAL VALUE EXCHANGE, LLC;
WEB EQUIPMENT, LLC;
ELITE MARKETING PROFESSIONALS, INC.;
POIESIS, INC.; RCG CORP LLC;
RAINBOW CULTURAL GARDEN, LLC;
PRECISION DEVELOPMENT, LLC;
ETHICAL PRINCIPLES, LLC;
EXECUTIVE HOUSING & PROPERTIES, INC.;
MOVING PIXELS, INC.;
MY IMAGES, INC.;
NX APPAREL, INC.;
NX PROPERTY MANGEMENT CORPORATION;
THE ART OF MOVEMENT, INC.;
GENERAL SERVICE PAYMENTS, INC.;
GENIUSES, LLC;
ONE ASIAN, LLC;
WORLDWIDE NODES, LLC;
BUNDLED ELEMENTS, LLC;
SURE HOLDINGS, LLC;
PSC I, LLC;
E MALLARD WEB, CORP.;
ETHICAL MEDIA, LLC;
WORLDWIDE NETWORK, LLC;
CREW HOLDINGS, LLC;
EXECUTIVE SUCCESS PROGRAMS, INC. (NV);
ETHOLUTIONS, INC.,
DON’T BE DUMB, LLC;
PLUGGED-IN TECHNOLOGIES, LLC;
SOCIETY OF PROTECTORS, LLS;
NXV TRUST; ETHOLUTIONS, INC.;
PRINCIPLED PRODUCTS, INC.;
NXIVM PROPERTIES, LLC;
FOWL HOLDINGS, LLC;
2430AUT1 TRUST;
BBFC TRUST;
EMF TRUST;
NX TRUST, INC.;
APPLIED PRINCIPLES;
THE ROOFING COMPANY;
SUCCESS PROGRAMS UNLIMITED, LLC;
LIFE LEARNING, INC. (NV);
WORLD AUDIENCE PRODUCTIONS, INC.;
WOLRD AUDIENCE PRODUCTIONS, INC.;
ITS ENDEAVORS, INC.;
MALLARD WEB CORPORATION;
SWEET P’S, INC.;
7 SEVEN;
LC;
FRANKLIN, LLC;
ACK KNOWLEDGE, LLC;
ALOUSCH, LLC;
COALITION OF ETHICISTS, LLC.


There are Rainbow Cultural Garden schools, run by NXIVM, in several countries.
The Miami Rainbow Cultural Garden child center was been closed by child protection officials.
It appears that other “schools” where babies and small children are tutored the Keith Raniere way. This includes giving them 7 foreign nannies that all speak a different language to the child: https://artvoice.com/2018/04/28/rain...-and-toddlers/


According to the following Reddit thread, Barbara Bush was on the Advisory Board of NXIVM’s Rainbow Culture Garden: https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawaken...dvisory_board/
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I'm familiar with the NXIVM issue. Thanks for the additional information. The association you are trying to make between NXIVM and Trump appears tenuous.
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Notice that shit like NXIVM is finally coming out during the Trump administration. The justice avalanche has begun.

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The association you are trying to make between NXIVM and Trump appears tenuous.
Do you think it's frustrating that we disagree on Donald Drumpf?
Roger Stone and Lynn Forester are connected to both Donald Trump and the NXIVM sex cult.
Two members of the Bronfman family are members of the Committee of 300 of Queen Elizabeth. Donald Trump made his private jet available to pedo Prince Andrew to meet Donald’s (and Lynn’s) pedo friend Jeffrey Epstein. Crown Prince Charles even attended Trump’s marriage to nude model Melania Knauss.
James Woolsey and Blackstone CEO Stephen A. Schwarzman who were/are also on Trump’s team are also members of the Committee of 300, just like Donald’s (and Epstein’s buddy) Bill Clinton.

I’m surprised that several “Russian” oligarchs are openly part of the Committee of 300, also connected to Donald Trump: Mikhail Fridman, Pyotr Aven and Alexander Mashkevitch.

In one of those strange coincidences, Sara Bronfman bought a $6.5 million apartment in the Trump International Hotel & Tower in 2006 that was used by Nancy Salzman (sold in 2014): https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2...ronfman-201011


In 1990, 1991 a 12-year-old girl, whose mother was a saleswoman for Raniere's Consumers' Buyline Inc., was sexually abused about 60 times over the course of several months by the then 29/30-year-old Keith Raniere (after he'd offered to tutor her in Algebra and Latin).
In 1993, about two years after their relationship ended, she complained to the cops. The cops refused to investigate, because the 12-year-old girl refused to wear a wire to frame Raniere.


In 1984, the then 24-year-old Raniere had a four-month sexual affair with the 15-year-old Gina Melita. He took her virginity in a dark room. During their relationship, he hounded the 135-pound girl to lose weight and urged her to keep their relationship a secret.

Before Melita left Raniere's life, in 1984, she introduced him to her 15-year-old friend Gina Hutchinson.
In December 1984, around the time of Gina's 16th birthday, her older sister Heidi discovered Gina was having sex with Raniere. Heidi was home from college and Raniere crawled through the window of her sister's bedroom.
Gina died in 2002, aged 33, reportedly by shooting herself in her head.


Raniere once organised a training session, where he told the students, including Toni Natalie, that mothers in some developing nations perform oral sex on their children to soothe them.
Natalie claimed Raniere raped her when she refused to have sex with him, before she left in 1999: https://www.timesunion.com/local/art...ws-3341644.php


After several complaints against Dr. Brandon Porter, 44, for human experiments and other misdeeds, the New York State Office of Professional Medical Conduct (OPMC) refused to investigate further.
In a September 2017 letter, the state told Jen Kobelt it would not investigate Dr. Porter, because “…the issues you have described are not medical misconduct”.
Only after stories in the media, the OPCM filed charges against Potter.

Porter’s experiments included showing NXIVM women, connected to an EEG machine, snuff videos of murders by machetes; a man being forced to eat part of his own brain; gang rape; and other disgusting videos. Porter conducted experiments like these for The Ethical Science Foundation, founded by Clare Bronfman (who paid for the experiments).
No charges were brought against Porter for his involvement with Rainbow Cultural Garden, funded by Sara Bronfman.

Porter was also charged with not reporting that more than 100 people, including children, at the 2016 Vanguard Week in New York became ill with flu-like symptoms, vomiting and diarrhoea.
This was probably caused by toxics in food or beverages. Curiously enough, no high ranking members of NXIVM got ill or slaves that Raniere wanted to “mentor” personally.
Raniere ordered everyone to keep quiet about the “epidemic” or else.

Daniela Fernandez was imprisoned for 18 months for refusing to have sex with Raniere.

Dr. Porter is married to Jane Jeffries, another cult member. At one time, the Porters had their own children in Rainbow.
Before the controversy in the media, St. Peter’s had ignored at least one report about Porter’s involvement with the NXIVM sex cult. Dr. Porter was asked to resign his position at St. Peter’s Hospital in the Albany area: https://frankreport.com/2018/05/05/d...dical-license/
(archived here: http://archive.is/ifALS)
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So NXIVM was a front for a child sex trafficking ring?

Good breakdown of the indictment docs and discovery materials..

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Where do you find Trump letting Andrew use his jet to meet Epstein?

I have known about NXIVM since before Q started talking about it. Word is Mack has direct knowledge of Obama-era officials (the real Rothschild agents - I'm sure, Hillary literally acts like their slave!) engaging in bad shit and she is co-operating or singing as they say.

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May 14 2018 22:18:10 (EST)
Allison Mack [NXIVM] arrested [date]?
When does a bird sing?
Schneiderman resigns [date]?
Coincidence?
Eyes Wide Open.
Who will be next?
Watch NYC.
Watch CA.
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I have known about NXIVM since before Q started talking about it. Word is Mack has direct knowledge of Obama-era officials (the real Rothschild agents - I'm sure, Hillary literally acts like their slave!) engaging in bad shit and she is co-operating or singing as they say.
Our whole "democratic" system is rigged.
If Donald Drumpf would really threaten to "drain the swamp", he would have never become US President...


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Where do you find Trump letting Andrew use his jet to meet Epstein?
Here’s what you could do, instead of denying the facts, use one of these wonderful internet “search” engines.
You could have searched with “prince andrew private plane donald trump jeffrey epstein”; and found the following...

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During this same period, Epstein and Maxwell were repeat guests at Mar-A-Lago. In 2000, they hung out there with Prince Andrew, who arrived for vacation on Trump's private plane. That same year, the Palm Beach Post reported that Trump, Epstein, Prince Andrew, and Maxwell were all at a tennis tournament/celebrity event at Mar-A-Lago.
(…)

Mark Epstein, Jeffrey's brother, testified in 2009 that Trump flew on Jeffrey's private jet at least once.
https://news.vice.com/article/the-sa...n-bill-clinton
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Coincidentally Branson’s own private Island is located next to the sex island of the good friend of the Clintons and Donald Trump – paedophile Jeffrey Epstein: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...h-life-4919588

Billionaire Richard Branson was in the same little black book that also contained the contact numbers for Bill Clinton and Donald Trump:
http://nypost.com/2016/10/09/the-sex...ffrey-epstein/
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Old 15-05-2018, 12:57 PM   #15
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You might shape your own reality with such beliefs ("but it's impossible to drain the swamp") but it doesn't affect the real reality. I consider your first paragraph evidence you don't understand that.

I did a very similar search and didn't find it. Sarcastic/lame.

It says in 2000 they hung out with him after he arrived on Trump's plane. The same article says Trump volunteered information against Epstein for his trial.

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I did a very similar search and didn't find it.
For some reason our wonderful internet "search" engines hide the damaging info on President Donald.
It wasn't on the first page of the search results...


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You might shape your own reality with such beliefs ("but it's impossible to drain the swamp") but it doesn't affect the real reality. I consider your first paragraph evidence you don't understand that.
I never said that...
On the contrary, there is only a relatively small amount of big criminals.
When "we" - the slaves without rights - stop trusting in a political system that is effectively placing the dictators' puppets "in charge". And we stop believing in a legal system that protects the big criminals.
It would be impossible to keep us enslaved.

But you're defending the big criminals like Trump.
It isn't a great mystery to "understand" what a charade our politicial system is, when Donald Trump has been friends with the Clintons for decades....


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It says in 2000 they hung out with him after he arrived on Trump's plane. The same article says Trump volunteered information against Epstein for his trial.
Trump spoke to the crooked attorney without a subpoena. The whole trial was a cover-up.
At the trial Epstein refused to answer when asked if he and his buddy Trump "ever socialized (...) in the presence of females under the age of 18":
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Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.
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You did say a swamp drainer could never be President. That's an opinion or an attitude, not some kind of universal truism.
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You did say a swamp drainer could never be President. That's an opinion or an attitude, not some kind of universal truism.
Those are the facts, because we - the slaves - let ourselves be fooled by a rigged political system.
The last US President that actually threatened the elite was John F. Kennedy.
He was murdered after he ordered the Kingdom of the Netherlands to leave New Guinea (where the Dutch Royals were in business with Rockefeller) and JFK took the money monopoly away from the Federal Reserve (by printing silver back dollars).
It was completely unexpected that JFK would turn on the elite by the way...

It was Trump's and the Clinton's friend, Lynn Forester, that introduced Jeffrey Epstein to Alan Dershowitz (who's also been named as a child abuser).

You could look to the Bush-Reagan White House to see that since the 1980s all US Preidents have (at the very least) been protecting ritual child abuse, drug trafficking and money laundering.
This includes PResident Trump!

Donald Trump and Epstein often parties together. See them for example on a Victoria’s Secret angels party at the Laura Belle club in New York City, April 1997.



Why do you defend a political shitstem like this?!?

Do you really believe that those silly tweets were posted by Lynn Forester de Rothschild?
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I think that's a loser's attitude that serves the swamp creatures. Trump is proving every day that Draining the Swamp is actually a worldwide takedown of who you claim are his friends. Some friends! Look at what they say and do regarding Trump. Look what he does. They didn't even need a subpoena to get Trump talking about Epstein to the prosecutor. If it was entirely a coverup I would expect an acquittal or dismissal. Yeah, he looks very friendly there! That is how to use sarcasm.

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Look what he does. They didn't even need a subpoena to get Trump talking about Epstein to the prosecutor. If it was entirely a coverup I would expect an acquittal or dismissal. Yeah, he looks very friendly there! That is how to use sarcasm.
You're really killing me here.
You continue making the most ridiculous claim to defend a mass murdering (look to Yemen), pedo loving, money launderer...


For all of the child abuse by Jeffrey Epstein and his paedophile “clients”, Epstein served a total of 13 months “in jail”. That is he was locked up only for 8 hours every day, so only locked up for the night. Reportedly with the exception of Sundays when he was locked up the whole day.
This means that Epstein was locked up for a total of some 55 days...
Part of the deal was that Epstein’s “clients”, including Prince Andrew and Donald Trump, were also off the hook.
The deal was made by one Alexander Acosta.

Donald Trump rewarded Acosta for getting his pedo friend Epstein, and the rest of the paedophile ring off the hook by making him Secretary of Labor: https://forum.davidicke.com/showpost...postcount=2809
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