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Old 31-08-2017, 02:53 PM   #221
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Kincora sexual abuse in Boys Home

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"Some evangelical groups have claimed that the Orange Order is still influenced by freemasonry. Many Masonic traditions survive, such as the organisation of the Order into lodges. The Order has a similar system of degrees through which new members advance. These degrees are interactive plays with references to the Bible. There is particular concern over the ritualism of higher degrees such as the Royal Arch Purple and the Royal Black Institution"

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"MI6 covered up historic child sex abuse ring discovered during surveillance operation"

The ex-intelligence officer said MI6 was ordered to watch the Kincora care home in Belfast in the 1970s because one of its housemasters, William McGrath, was the leader of paramilitary group Tara.

Spies witnessed terror-related arms deals but also found evidence of an international paedophile gang trafficking victims to Brighton, London, Amsterdam and Vienna.

Our source, who was involved in the operation but has asked to remain anonymous, said the intelligence services did not act on the abuse because it could have blown their cover and because they could not afford to “tread on the toes” of the Royal Ulster Constabulary.

He said: “Certainly there was abuse inside Kincora but most of the boys were sent to various hotels around the province to be abused.

"Some were taken to Brighton and London and then further afield, as far as Holland and even Vienna.”

"McGrath was jailed in 1981 for abusing boys in Kincora
but a report into the scandal published in 1983 failed to name any MPs and said the military knew nothing of the abuse." Same old story.



http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/569...tish-spies-MI6

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Old 31-08-2017, 03:11 PM   #222
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It's apparent many high ranking police officers are Freemasons.



"Secret networks of Freemasons have been used by organised crime gangs to corrupt the criminal justice system, according to a bombshell Metropolitan Police report leaked to The Independent.

Operation Tiberius, written in 2002, found underworld syndicates used their contacts in the controversial brotherhood to “recruit corrupted officers” inside Scotland Yard, and concluded it was one of “the most difficult aspects of organised crime corruption to proof against”.

The report – marked “Secret” – found serving officers in East Ham east London who were members of the Freemasons attempted to find out which detectives were suspected of links to organised crime from other police sources who were also members of the society."

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Old 31-08-2017, 07:25 PM   #223
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And what fruit do you bear? deceptions and distortions designed to inspire fear and paranoia? where is your honesty when you refuse to listen to people who know better
If the point of qabalah is to develop your intuition and insight then you are failing miserably as you fail to see a fraction of what many people here can see and yet you claim to speak from a position of authority!

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but you prefer to peddle opinion as fact? nobody is denying that there have been masons who are paedos but what you are trying to do is claim that paedophilia is at the core and everybody is trying to protect it. Its a dirty trick really fashioned to scare people away from joining lodges.
what i'm saying is that the lodge is being used to create an energy field in which magical operations are being carried out to alter the consciousness of the people who participate

Also the lodge is seen by many as a way to get ahead in life and gain influence and what i'm telling you is that psychopaths gravitate towards power like moths do to a flame. This means psychopaths will always be attracted to the lodge. Power may corrupt but more commonly it attracts the corrupt and really that should be the aspect society should become more alive to because at the moment it is a blindspot of society which is far too trusting of people in authority positions as the various scandals mentioned in press stories above show

You are not alive to these things; like i say you see very little and yet fancy yourself enlightened!

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As I have said many times, you love to try and scare people away from thing but you never offer anything positive alternatives.
I have created an entire thread called 'possible solutions to the worlds problems' which is full of alternatives

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Its is you who are shaping this reality in your own mind, creating a mental filter that permits dirt rather than filtering it, which in turn is polluting your entire existance. It just annoys the hell out of you when people dont want to sink with you.
no there really are freemasonic pedos and covers ups that are going on. Its not me doing that. it is your brethren

You can try and tell us that freemasonry exists only to better people and society and many other groups like the catholic church make the same claim but as far as i'm concerned there are two things we can really boil it down to:

1) what does freemasonry want from the individual?
2) what is freemasonry trying to achieve as a body?

I believe that it is trying to alter the consciousness of the individual to fit them for the task of the overall body whose aim is to create a one world government run by the freemasonic heirarchy which itself is run by an unseen hierarchy beyond human sight.

You are free to disagree and dispute that and i am free to attempt to provide evidence to support my claims. Just try and not have a tantrum everytime we get a step closer to proving me right
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:39 AM   #224
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Did you condemn the GrandSecretary for being a good pal of Savile and claiming that he was a nice bloke?
Wasn't that user a fake Mason ("Grand Lodge of All England")?

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The Orange Order
...is not a real Masonic order.
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Old 01-09-2017, 11:35 AM   #225
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Wasn't that user a fake Mason ("Grand Lodge of All England")?

...is not a real Masonic order.
Can you expand on that.

"The Orange Order is not a real Masonic Order"


How does it differ?
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So are you suggesting that masons actually learn stuff like tarot, magic, astrology, astral projection, etc?
Depends which way you look at it. Geometry is more or less the construct of this reality and today we manipulate it in so many ways that 100 years ago it would have been considered to be witchcraft. You could look at alchemy for example. On an atom scale, chemical bonds can be represented and explained using Geometry. Therefore in a spiritual sense, it is a connection between matter and the eye of the beholder. No doubt, architects have to build against and manipulate design around natural forces using physics and mathematics just as much as the mason that constructs what is on plan. I percieve much of that to be application of esoteric/occult knowledge as much as drawing a Sigil. From paper to the real world, there is an outcome.

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I think the reality is that the golden dawn founders were masons who used their lodge experience to build a magic lodge along basic masonic lines. Thats where the similarity ends as the GD and its offshoots were nothing like freemasonry in a lot of ways.
Perhaps. There clearly seems to be some imputus that Freemasonry/Rosicruican Order was not enough for those whom started the GD. Perhaps it is a case of some had developed new knowledge from studies they had done and had been turned down as a result. It would be a logical move. Clearly there must have been enough knowledge present for them to develop an internal degree system and one which was able to encorporate women.
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...is not a real Masonic order.
the orange lodge are freemasons of a lineage of freemasonry that is far older then your new world offshoot

they came from the south west of scotland where lodge 0 can be found in killwinning that began in the 1100's

if they are not freemasons then you certainly aren't
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Can you expand on that.

"The Orange Order is not a real Masonic Order"


How does it differ?
It is not recognized by any Grand Lodge as a Masonic body. It imitates a lot of the Masonic hierarchy and names, but is a Protestant society named after William of Orange.

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the orange lodge are freemasons of a lineage of freemasonry that is far older then your new world offshoot

they came from the south west of scotland where lodge 0 can be found in killwinning that began in the 1100's

if they are not freemasons then you certainly aren't
The Orange Order wasn't established until 1795, long after Masonic Lodges were in existence. The Kilwinning Lodge No.0 is Masonic, not Orange.

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It is not recognized by any Grand Lodge as a Masonic body. It imitates a lot of the Masonic hierarchy and names, but is a Protestant society named after William of Orange.

The Orange Order wasn't established until 1795, long after Masonic Lodges were in existence. The Kilwinning Lodge No.0 is Masonic, not Orange.

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william of orange is one of the black nobility bloodlines who control freemasonry

the protestant reformation was forwarded by the knights templar

when william gained power in england he brought over jewish money-men who had created the dutch central bank and played a central role in the creation of the dutch east india company

The same network including the rothschilds created the bank of england and east india company

They are all connected through the secret society network and its them that set up the official grand lodges, but all of these societies are networked

They even have societies that no one has heard of but the point is that they exist regardless of whether or not they have been codified

You think about things in far too literal a way

The same network controls the orange order and other freemasonic lodges

They also have influence within the city of london, within the police and judiciary, intelligence agencies, media etc

Just because these people haven't codified all this doesn't mean it doesn't exist just as there were freemasonic lodges in existence BEFORE the grand lodges were created
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Wasn't it William of Orange who bought the concept of interest on loans to the UK?
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william of orange is one of the black nobility bloodlines who control freemasonry
That is incorrect.

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The same network controls the orange order and other freemasonic lodges
You really don't know how Freemasonry works.
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The Anglo-Venetians decided that they were fed up with the now-Catholic, pro-French and wholly useless Stuart dynasty. Representatives of some of the leading oligarchical families signed an invitation to the Dutch King, William of Orange, and his Queen Mary, a daughter of James II. John Churchill, the future Duke of Marlborough, was typical of James’ former supporters who now went over to support William and Mary. William landed and marched on London. This is called by the British the “Glorious Revolution” of 1688; in reality, it consolidated the powers and prerogatives of the oligarchy, which were expressed in the Bill of Rights of 1689. No taxes could be levied, no army raised, and no laws suspended without the consent of the oligarchy in Parliament. Members of Parliament were guaranteed immunity for their political actions and free speech. Soon, ministers could not stay in office for long without the support of a majority of Parliament. Parliament was supreme over the monarch and the state church. At the same time, seats in Parliament were now bought and sold in a de facto market. The greater the graft to be derived from a seat, the more a seat was worth. Within a few years after the Glorious Revolution there was a Bank of England and a national debt. When George I ascended the throne in 1714, he knew he was a Doge, the primus inter pares of an oligarchy.
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''the entities are electromagnetic beings and they attach themselves to the human electromagnetic field, or auric field, and from there dictate mental, emotional and 'physical' behaviour....These are the same archontic entities that possess those in positions of power in politics, banking, corporations, the media and the military, and so on. They are so heartless-note the term heart-less, devoid of heart energy-because the entities that possess them are heart-less. The archon hybrids have a greater genetic (therefore vibrational) compatibility with the entities and so are much more powerfully possessable than the general run of the population. But it can happen to anyone to a larger or lesser extent and this is why people have to be streetwise to the phenomenon.

Those selected to serve the Control system are possessed by these entities during secret society and Satanic rituals and the symbols of saturn generate the energy field in the temples and rituals that create an energetic conduit for entities to come in. Someone might join the freemasons and think that the rituals are strange and potty, but what they don't know is that they are specifically designed to allow entities to attach to the target and slowly, but surely, their personality begins to change. When it has changed sufficiently and becomes heart-less enough, they go on to be a leading politician, banker and whatever else the secret networks have in mind for them. The general population can be most open to possession at times of extreme depression (and other low vibrational energetic states), and drugs and heavy drinking can seriously open the door, too. So can having sex with a possessed person because the energetic connection creates a mutual field which the entities can cross''
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The House Of Rothschild
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(Excerpted from Chapter 19: The Eight Families: Big Oil & Their Bankers…)

The Rothschild family combined with the Dutch House of Orange to found Bank of Amsterdam in the early 1600’s as the world’s first private central bank.

Prince William of Orange married into the English House of Windsor, taking King James II’s daughter Mary as his bride. The Orange Order Brotherhood, which more recently fomented Northern Ireland Protestant violence, put William III on the English throne where he ruled both Holland and Britain. In 1694 William III teamed up with the Rothschilds to launch the Bank of England.

The Old Lady of Threadneedle Street – as the Bank of England is known – is surrounded by thirty foot walls. Three floors beneath it the third largest stock of gold bullion in the world is stored. The biggest hoard lies beneath the Rothschild-controlled Federal Reserve Bank of New York. According to the excellent movie The Money Masters, much of this gold was confiscated from now-empty vaults at Fort Knox as collateral on US debt obligations to the Eight Families Federal Reserve crowd.

This financial mafia further consolidated its control over the world’s gold stock when 200 million ounces of the stuff belonging to the Bank of Nova Scotia was recovered from beneath the carnage of the World Trade Center. One day after its November 1, 2001 recovery, New York Mayor Rudy Guliani laid off hundreds of rescue workers at Ground Zero. A short time later he was knighted by Queen Elizabeth and named Time magazine’s “Man of the Year”.

The daily London gold “fixing” occurs at the N. M. Rothschild Bank in the City of London. Here, five of the Eight Families-linked banks unilaterally decide what the price of gold will be each morning. Kleinwort Benson’s Sharps Pixley subsidiary is one of five firms. Another is Mocatta Metals. It is majority-owned by Standard Chartered – the Cecil Rhodes-founded bank whose Dubai branch wired Mohammed Atta the funds he needed to carry out the 911 operation.

According to British MP Michael Meacher in an article for The Guardian, Omar Saeed Sheikh – the man who beheaded US journalist Daniel Pearl in 2002 – was a British M-16 agent. He says it was Sheikh who – at the behest of Pakistani ISI General Mahmood Ahmed – wired the $100,000 to Mohammed Atta from Standard Chartered’s Dubai branch before 911. Meacher’s claim has been corroborated by Dennis Lomel – director of FBI’s financial crimes unit – and by an October 11, 2001 article in The Times of India. Mocatta Metals is also a favorite conduit for Israeli Mossad financing.

Midland Bank subsidiary Samuel Montagu is a third London gold “fixer”. In 1999 Midland, headquartered in cocaine-money infested Panama, was bought by the British oligarchy-controlled HSBC – the old Hong Kong Shanghai Bank Corporation opium laundry and now the world’s second largest bank. Midland is partially owned by the Kuwaiti al-Sabah monarchy. The other two gold fixers are Johnson Matthey and N. M. Rothschild, both of which have interlocking boards with Anglo-American and HSBC.

Anglo-American is the world’s third largest mining company. It is controlled by the Rothschilds and South Africa’s Oppenheimer family. It owns both Engelhardt – which enjoys a near monopoly in global gold refining – and the DeBeers diamond monopoly. The current De Beers chairman is Nicky Oppenheimer. De Beers was indicted in 1994 for price-fixing by the US Justice Department. To this day company officials do not set foot on US soil for fear they may be nabbed by US authorities.

The Rothschilds also control BHP Billiton and Rio Tinto, the two biggest global miners, as well as Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and Bank of America. As Bank of England Deputy Governor George Blunden put it, “Fear is what makes the bank’s powers so acceptable. The bank is able to exert its influence when people are dependent on us and fear losing their privileges or when they are frightened.”
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