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Old 23-08-2012, 03:30 PM   #1
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Seems like he did not have any reason for committing suicide - he was getting ready to supposedly on a film with Tom Cruise:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...es-bridge.html
'We saw the whole thing': Tourist boat passengers watch in horror as Top Gun director Tony Scott jumps to his death from L.A. bridge

Leaped 'without hesitation' from the Vincent Thomas Bridge in San Pedro
Passengers on a harbour cruise witnessed him falling by their boat
A suicide note was later recovered at his office
Pictured looking disheveled while out just weeks ago
Industry veteran famous for cult classic Top Gun along with Days of Thunder, Beverly Hills Cop II and Enemy Of The State
Planning a Top Gun sequel with Tom Cruise; prep work had already started
Had two twin sons with third wife he met in 1994
Worked with the Hollywood elite including Cruise, Robert De Niro, Nicole Kidman and Denzel Washington and had film due out next year

By Louise Boyle, Michael Zennie and Lydia Warren

PUBLISHED: 23:17 EST, 19 August 2012 | UPDATED: 17:08 EST, 20 August 2012

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Hollywood director Tony Scott has plunged to his death from a Los Angeles bridge after penning a suicide note - falling within feet of horrified tourists on a harbour boat cruise.

The 68-year-old, who directed films including Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop II and Enemy Of The State, leaped from the Vincent Thomas Bridge at around 12.30pm on Sunday.

'He landed right next to our tour boat, and many of us saw the whole thing,' a witness, who had been on the cruise around the Los Angeles Harbour, told TMZ.

Just weeks before his death, Scott was pictured looking dishevelled and wide-eyed as he left a dinner in Beverly Hills on July 23.

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Apparently he wanted to re-make the film "Warriors"...

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It emerged that Scott was very familiar with the Vincent Thomas bridge near Long Beach, about 30 miles south of his Beverly Hills home, because he planned to use it in a remake of the 1970 cult classic The Warriors, about a gang crossing New York to their Coney Island home pursued by rival gangs.

In a 2009 interview with the website Rotten Tomatoes Scott said he wanted to switch the story to Los Angeles because it was horizontal whereas New York was vertical.

He envisaged the climax of the film on the suspension bridge which spans the harbour. "I'm hoping to get 100,000 real gang members standing on the Vincent Thomas bridge for one shot. I've been meeting the various gangs as part of the research. I've met them all, Crips, Bloods, The 18th Street Gang, The Vietnamese and so on. They all love The Warriors, so it was, 'Yeah, fuck yeah, we'll be in that!"
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true romance was brilliant, hopper/walken scene one of the best of all time, man on fire not bad, thanks tony for filling a few hours of my life, be happy in your afterlife whoever your god maybe.
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If he had no reason to die, then we all know the flipside.

He had information that could harm the illuminati, and was either mind controlled or he was murdered to make it look like suicide.

The illuminati did say they would be killing off more celebrities.
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The voice in this video is not human it's one of these electronically generated voices.

The more you think about this incident the more bizzare it seems that he would do this as he had good relations with his brother and his wife, to just do this out the blue seems out of character.
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The voice in this video is not human it's one of these electronically generated voices.

The more you think about this incident the more bizzare it seems that he would do this as he had good relations with his brother and his wife, to just do this out the blue seems out of character.
I noticed that the voice wasn't human also & thought it could be to hide the identity as it may be someone in the industry. It doesn't seem likely that he was a person to commit suicide.
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If he had no reason to die, then we all know the flipside.

He had information that could harm the illuminati, and was either mind controlled or he was murdered to make it look like suicide.

The illuminati did say they would be killing off more celebrities.
Totally agree.
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Obvious he loved his work:


Tony Scott gives a heart felt speech on how shooting UNSTOPPABLE was an exciting adventure and that "it was the toughest shoot of his life." He offers all crew members a glass of champagne afterwards.
Not to mention that Tony knew Everybody's name/job on set!
Classy Director.
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This is a very sad loss to me, Tony Scott was a talented film maker, I'd always prayed he'd get to film another Tarantino script as True Romance was a seminal film.

Very strange case indeed? If it was a suspicious possible murder it would have to be a very high tech weapon. I know of the drug "Scopalmene?"/Devil's breath from one of the fantastic Vice TV documentaries, I'm sure it was mentioned here but I'm sure there has to be something that exists beyond that.

If I had a wife who looked like Tony's, unless she had cheated, I think I'd like to stay alive a little longer that's my only query. It could be completely natural and not suspicious but who knows? As dark as it may be these boards exist to speculate.

Just watched that video, very interesting, I immediately thought of Prometheus when i heard of this. Is it possible Ridley maybe told Tony something he wasn't supposed to? Needed a message sent to him perhaps?

I would have dismissed this kind of conjecture in the past but after seeing The Imaginarium of Dr Parnassus it's clear how blatant some of these occult practises can be?

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I doubt very much if he was killed because of Prometheus...not if you go along with the theory that all major films are created by the illuminati themselves, and the film directors are simply puppets to bring whatever predictive programming (through films, tv etc.) into reality.

I would assume also that yet another alien based movie has something to do with whatever agenda 'they' have planned and/or project bluebeam.

He was probably going to expose something or it could even have been a ritualistic sacrifice with regards to this brother. It would be interesting if there some sort of 'chart' somewhere of famous people and their dead/suicided friends/relatives...I bet you would find the majority have had to undergo some sort of sacrifice, as there does seem to be alot of deaths surround these 'stars'..Gary Barlow being one of the latest...

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Seems like he did not have any reason for committing suicide - he was getting ready to supposedly on a film with Tom Cruise:
as well as wanting to remake the "Warriors". That's certainly a creative low-point, but it's just what America needs. More blood-soaked cinematic violence....
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Tony Scott cremated; wife keeping ashes


Published: Aug. 29, 2012 at 10:20 AM

LOS ANGELES, Aug. 29 (UPI) -- British director Tony Scott has been cremated and his ashes will be kept at his Los Angeles home by his wife, Donna Wilson, his death certificate said.

Scott and Wilson married in 1994 and have twin 12-year-old sons.

The "Top Gun," "True Romance," "Crimson Tide" and "Unstoppable" filmmaker leaped to his death from California's Vincent Thomas Bridge Aug. 19. He was 68.

No reason for his suicide has been disclosed to the public and an official cause of death won't be determined until toxicology tests are evaluated.

EW.com said a private funeral was held for Scott last Friday after which he was cremated.

The death certificate released to the media Monday lists his home address as the "place of final disposition" of his ashes, the celebrity news Web site said.
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This is a very sad loss to me, Tony Scott was a talented film maker, I'd always prayed he'd get to film another Tarantino script as True Romance was a seminal film.

Very strange case indeed? If it was a suspicious possible murder it would have to be a very high tech weapon. I know of the drug "Scopalmene?"/Devil's breath from one of the fantastic Vice TV documentaries, I'm sure it was mentioned here but I'm sure there has to be something that exists beyond that.

If I had a wife who looked like Tony's, unless she had cheated, I think I'd like to stay alive a little longer that's my only query. It could be completely natural and not suspicious but who knows? As dark as it may be these boards exist to speculate.

Just watched that video, very interesting, I immediately thought of Prometheus when i heard of this. Is it possible Ridley maybe told Tony something he wasn't supposed to? Needed a message sent to him perhaps?

I would have dismissed this kind of conjecture in the past but after seeing The Imaginarium of Dr Parnassus it's clear how blatant some of these occult practises can be?
It is a sad loss, looks like he & his wife had been married 18 years & looked very happy. He said his family meant everything to him.

As far as suspicious death, it would not necessarily be high tech at all, easy to slip in one's food or drink that could make on depressed. Good article below- think of athletes such as Lance Armstrong who fool drug detection, may use new drugs not on regular market-

There is this article:

http://www.giwersworld.org/paranoid-...ol-drugs.phtml

Government Mind Control Drugs
by Matt Giwer, © 2002 [August 22]

Disclaimer: None of this is meant to suggest such drugs are known or even if there are such drugs. None of this is meant to suggest such drugs were ever used towards these ends or ever used at all. What I do suggest is that if someone wanted such drugs there is a low cost way to get them.

There is precedent for experiments with mind altering drugs. In the 1950s, before LSD became fashionable, the CIA experimented with it on humans. That was the well known MK-Ultra program. The government has ceased denying it and has paid compensation in one known wrongful death suit.

Control is a strong term implying all the worst plots in bad science fiction. Even people whom the government controls by paying them are not always predictable in what they will do. Ask any employer about it.

The kind of control which is possible is as with blackmail and extortion. You cannot predict with certainty what the victim will do but there are a narrow range of responses, comply or go to the police. With experience one can maximize compliance over going to the police.

Usually when someone claims the government or some secret agency has or is using or is developing mind control drugs the idea is dismissed out of hand. When the occasional suggestion gains some popularity, a low level talking head ridicules the idea. In addition to the classic ridicule attacks there appears to be a serious cause for rejection of the idea.

Even if the government employees evil scientists and even if all evil scientists are also mad geniuses, where are they hiding?

Over the decades there have been about one hundred or so approved, prescription drugs on the market which alter the mind. These range from common Valium to heavy duty injection drugs like Thorazine. There are very specialized drugs to treat specific forms of mental illness.

These all have known effects which are on-balance beneficial to the patient -- although there is significant disagreement regarding some drugs. Whatever these drugs are they do not induce people to "shoot the president" or "shoot up a school." Rather they work to suppress extreme and aberrant behavior.

All of these drugs went through rigorous tests on laboratory animals before being tested on humans. The human tests are rigorously monitored and use protocols developed over decades to assure the overall effects are beneficial. The process for a single drug takes between five and ten years from discovery to approval.

Similar procedures would be required to establish a drug has the desired "evil" effects. The term is efficacy, in layman's terms effectiveness, whether positive or negative effects are desired. Nothing makes makes "evil" drugs easier to discover or develop. The world is not like religious morality.

Are the mad scientists slaving away with such tests to develop the perfect mind control drugs? The idea appears ridiculous and of course is ridiculous for any number of reasons such as the disappearance of so many test subjects over the years to determine the efficacy of the drug. Despite movies healthy test subjects without families or friends are quite rare and lacking friends that much harder to find.

On top of that for each effective drug roughly ninety nine are rejected. So what at first appeared possible with "all the resources of the government" is a much greater effort. Of course evil scientists could not worry as much about the long term health or safety of the test subjects or those the drug is to be used on so the rejection rate would not be as high as 99% but still a large number simply on the grounds that it does not work reliably or does not work at all.

But is it still possible? Is there a way to shorten the development process and decrease its size and still follow the rules to establish the drug works as desired? Unfortunately there is.

The method is to review the reasons why drugs were rejected in the human trial phase. Those have already been determined not immediately fatal or disabling by the tests on lab animals. They have been found safe for humans by the Food and Drug Administration. The human test phase has established which drugs have a negative effect on the mind rather than no effect at all. All the preliminary screening has been done and is a treasure trove waiting to be mined.

Mind control is not a "shoot the president" drug. A few years back there was a joke about President Ronald Reagan (Republican) pardoning the man (Hinkley) who tried to kill him, giving him a gun and telling him the Speaker of the House (Tip O'Neil, Democrat) loves Jody Foster, his rationale for the shooting being to impress her so she would fall in love with him.

Mental problems have distinct patterns with a generally predictable range of consequences. A paranoid is going to have a general suspicion of everyone and a fixation upon one or a small number of people being behind it all. Unlike the joke, if a drug could induce paranoia it is not clear how to direct its focus.

There are other conditions which can be predicted much better and are useful in specific circumstances. A very common consequence of severe depression is suicide. A depression inducing drug would have a generally predictable outcome of suicide. To ruin a person's reputation a drug which induces a manic state could work quite well.

And the likelihood of finding such drugs as the cause for failing human trials is very high as the drugs in human tests are dealing exactly with these mental conditions. These are not like drugs for physical ailments such as attacking an infection. They mostly work by restoring normal balance rather than eliminating the cause of the imbalance.

An experimental drug dealing with depression acts to restore the conditions which exist in a person without depression. It is dealing with the balance itself. An experimental drug to treat chronic depression that makes the depression worse is likely the most common reason for rejection after "no effect at all" reason. But making depression worse is exactly the effect useful for nefarious purposes.

The cost of discovery and animal testing eliminated as well as much of the cost of human testing. In addition, continued testing to a specific purpose is cheaper as the requirement for highly trained medical personnel and the meticulous record keeping required by the FDA is not required. The chemical structure of the drug itself as well as the means of manufacturing it are in the patent application and in drug company records. In science what does not work is as important as what does work so companies will keep scientific records of failures as well as business records for tax purposes to write off the losses on failures.

A general trend in these drugs is the newer ones tend to be effective in smaller does as they are targeting very specific parts of the brain. This makes covertly administering it easier and so small a quantity as to be tasteless while making detection in an autopsy harder. As they never reach the approved list there is no way to know what to look for in an autopsy. And as they are otherwise unknown drugs symptoms reported by eyewitnesses will not match any known drug. So even if drug residue is found it will not be identifiable as a drug, simply a odd chemical of unknown origin.

If a government wants an arsenal of such drugs for use in special circumstances they can be developed on a modest budget with minimum personnel. Once known they are available forever. As governments spy on each other and intelligence agencies share information and compete with each other, if one government does it, likely all do it or share information. As the Russians and the Americans did experiment with such drugs the practical question is how diverse are the drugs in the arsenals around the world.

More interesting is agencies which have such drugs are run by political appointees. Civilians who have knowledge of the projects come and go. A certain segment of the civilian population would have knowledge of these drugs and possibly access to them, either from old contacts or from having taken a sample with them. As we have discovered from the anthrax investigations, high security is not a guarantee.

Without doing our own research on failed drugs, even if we had access to them, we have no idea of what range of behaviors they can induce. There is a wide range of specific aberrant behaviors which are also quite rare. Most people learn to keep such behavior under control as they grow up and avoid being in a situation where they would express such behavior. Were it to suddenly appear as the result of a drug there is no lifetime of inhibitions and strategies to deal with it.

I am not suggesting a drug causes this. While many people simply dislike children to varying degrees there is a rare extreme hatred of children. There has been a rash of people shooting up schools, with no history of unusual behavior, and killing themselves afterwards. At the Columbine event a long history of planning and preparations was uncovered. No such thing has been found in the other school shooting cases.

Not all of these rare aberrations would be useful. To "shoot the president" a hatred of authority would appear useful but unless induced into one of his Secret Service bodyguards while actually protecting him the person is more likely to shoot the first police officer he sees. Inducing hatred of children on a school day does not have that problem. Inducing hatred of women could not address a specific target.

The range of possibilities is also limited. For example there is no aberration which hates journalists or any other profession so there is no way to go after specific targets.

Phobias are not useful as they are not hatreds. They are mind numbing fears which leads to incapacitation. They could possibly be useful on the battlefield if there were a way to get the enemy to ingest it.

Unlike the Reagan joke there is no (publicly) known way create a focus of a paranoia. Suddenly inducing it does not guarantee the focus of the paranoia. Of course this is predicated on the publicly condition. Even so, only rarely does paranoia lead to doing something about the focus, like try to kill it.

Mania is the opposite of depression. When in a manic phase people have no regard for the consequences of their actions. They have the feeling they can do anything. They write bad checks, proposition every woman who takes their fancy, and will binge on drugs and alcohol publicly. This behavior continues towards the police should they arrive. If one wished to discredit a public figure this would be the perfect drug particularly if they are not independently wealthy politicians.

The issue which sparked this article was the 22 August 2002 suicide of a New York Times business editor. The original eyewitness reported by Matt Drudge was that he suddenly changed while people watched and immediately threw himself off of the roof of the building. I am writing this article right after hearing of it so I have no additional information.

This entire article proves nothing. It establishes nothing. It hints at nothing. It merely recites some facts and lays out a route to a useful objective. But I do have to ask, if these drugs do not exist, why not?
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It is a sad loss, looks like he & his wife had been married 18 years & looked very happy. He said his family meant everything to him.

As far as suspicious death, it would not necessarily be high tech at all, easy to slip in one's food or drink that could make on depressed. Good article below- think of athletes such as Lance Armstrong who fool drug detection, may use new drugs not on regular market-

There is this article:

http://www.giwersworld.org/paranoid-...ol-drugs.phtml

Government Mind Control Drugs
by Matt Giwer, © 2002 [August 22]

Disclaimer: None of this is meant to suggest such drugs are known or even if there are such drugs. None of this is meant to suggest such drugs were ever used towards these ends or ever used at all. What I do suggest is that if someone wanted such drugs there is a low cost way to get them.

There is precedent for experiments with mind altering drugs. In the 1950s, before LSD became fashionable, the CIA experimented with it on humans. That was the well known MK-Ultra program. The government has ceased denying it and has paid compensation in one known wrongful death suit.

Control is a strong term implying all the worst plots in bad science fiction. Even people whom the government controls by paying them are not always predictable in what they will do. Ask any employer about it.

The kind of control which is possible is as with blackmail and extortion. You cannot predict with certainty what the victim will do but there are a narrow range of responses, comply or go to the police. With experience one can maximize compliance over going to the police.

Usually when someone claims the government or some secret agency has or is using or is developing mind control drugs the idea is dismissed out of hand. When the occasional suggestion gains some popularity, a low level talking head ridicules the idea. In addition to the classic ridicule attacks there appears to be a serious cause for rejection of the idea.

Even if the government employees evil scientists and even if all evil scientists are also mad geniuses, where are they hiding?

Over the decades there have been about one hundred or so approved, prescription drugs on the market which alter the mind. These range from common Valium to heavy duty injection drugs like Thorazine. There are very specialized drugs to treat specific forms of mental illness.

These all have known effects which are on-balance beneficial to the patient -- although there is significant disagreement regarding some drugs. Whatever these drugs are they do not induce people to "shoot the president" or "shoot up a school." Rather they work to suppress extreme and aberrant behavior.

All of these drugs went through rigorous tests on laboratory animals before being tested on humans. The human tests are rigorously monitored and use protocols developed over decades to assure the overall effects are beneficial. The process for a single drug takes between five and ten years from discovery to approval.

Similar procedures would be required to establish a drug has the desired "evil" effects. The term is efficacy, in layman's terms effectiveness, whether positive or negative effects are desired. Nothing makes makes "evil" drugs easier to discover or develop. The world is not like religious morality.

Are the mad scientists slaving away with such tests to develop the perfect mind control drugs? The idea appears ridiculous and of course is ridiculous for any number of reasons such as the disappearance of so many test subjects over the years to determine the efficacy of the drug. Despite movies healthy test subjects without families or friends are quite rare and lacking friends that much harder to find.

On top of that for each effective drug roughly ninety nine are rejected. So what at first appeared possible with "all the resources of the government" is a much greater effort. Of course evil scientists could not worry as much about the long term health or safety of the test subjects or those the drug is to be used on so the rejection rate would not be as high as 99% but still a large number simply on the grounds that it does not work reliably or does not work at all.

But is it still possible? Is there a way to shorten the development process and decrease its size and still follow the rules to establish the drug works as desired? Unfortunately there is.

The method is to review the reasons why drugs were rejected in the human trial phase. Those have already been determined not immediately fatal or disabling by the tests on lab animals. They have been found safe for humans by the Food and Drug Administration. The human test phase has established which drugs have a negative effect on the mind rather than no effect at all. All the preliminary screening has been done and is a treasure trove waiting to be mined.

Mind control is not a "shoot the president" drug. A few years back there was a joke about President Ronald Reagan (Republican) pardoning the man (Hinkley) who tried to kill him, giving him a gun and telling him the Speaker of the House (Tip O'Neil, Democrat) loves Jody Foster, his rationale for the shooting being to impress her so she would fall in love with him.

Mental problems have distinct patterns with a generally predictable range of consequences. A paranoid is going to have a general suspicion of everyone and a fixation upon one or a small number of people being behind it all. Unlike the joke, if a drug could induce paranoia it is not clear how to direct its focus.

There are other conditions which can be predicted much better and are useful in specific circumstances. A very common consequence of severe depression is suicide. A depression inducing drug would have a generally predictable outcome of suicide. To ruin a person's reputation a drug which induces a manic state could work quite well.

And the likelihood of finding such drugs as the cause for failing human trials is very high as the drugs in human tests are dealing exactly with these mental conditions. These are not like drugs for physical ailments such as attacking an infection. They mostly work by restoring normal balance rather than eliminating the cause of the imbalance.

An experimental drug dealing with depression acts to restore the conditions which exist in a person without depression. It is dealing with the balance itself. An experimental drug to treat chronic depression that makes the depression worse is likely the most common reason for rejection after "no effect at all" reason. But making depression worse is exactly the effect useful for nefarious purposes.

The cost of discovery and animal testing eliminated as well as much of the cost of human testing. In addition, continued testing to a specific purpose is cheaper as the requirement for highly trained medical personnel and the meticulous record keeping required by the FDA is not required. The chemical structure of the drug itself as well as the means of manufacturing it are in the patent application and in drug company records. In science what does not work is as important as what does work so companies will keep scientific records of failures as well as business records for tax purposes to write off the losses on failures.

A general trend in these drugs is the newer ones tend to be effective in smaller does as they are targeting very specific parts of the brain. This makes covertly administering it easier and so small a quantity as to be tasteless while making detection in an autopsy harder. As they never reach the approved list there is no way to know what to look for in an autopsy. And as they are otherwise unknown drugs symptoms reported by eyewitnesses will not match any known drug. So even if drug residue is found it will not be identifiable as a drug, simply a odd chemical of unknown origin.

If a government wants an arsenal of such drugs for use in special circumstances they can be developed on a modest budget with minimum personnel. Once known they are available forever. As governments spy on each other and intelligence agencies share information and compete with each other, if one government does it, likely all do it or share information. As the Russians and the Americans did experiment with such drugs the practical question is how diverse are the drugs in the arsenals around the world.

More interesting is agencies which have such drugs are run by political appointees. Civilians who have knowledge of the projects come and go. A certain segment of the civilian population would have knowledge of these drugs and possibly access to them, either from old contacts or from having taken a sample with them. As we have discovered from the anthrax investigations, high security is not a guarantee.

Without doing our own research on failed drugs, even if we had access to them, we have no idea of what range of behaviors they can induce. There is a wide range of specific aberrant behaviors which are also quite rare. Most people learn to keep such behavior under control as they grow up and avoid being in a situation where they would express such behavior. Were it to suddenly appear as the result of a drug there is no lifetime of inhibitions and strategies to deal with it.

I am not suggesting a drug causes this. While many people simply dislike children to varying degrees there is a rare extreme hatred of children. There has been a rash of people shooting up schools, with no history of unusual behavior, and killing themselves afterwards. At the Columbine event a long history of planning and preparations was uncovered. No such thing has been found in the other school shooting cases.

Not all of these rare aberrations would be useful. To "shoot the president" a hatred of authority would appear useful but unless induced into one of his Secret Service bodyguards while actually protecting him the person is more likely to shoot the first police officer he sees. Inducing hatred of children on a school day does not have that problem. Inducing hatred of women could not address a specific target.

The range of possibilities is also limited. For example there is no aberration which hates journalists or any other profession so there is no way to go after specific targets.

Phobias are not useful as they are not hatreds. They are mind numbing fears which leads to incapacitation. They could possibly be useful on the battlefield if there were a way to get the enemy to ingest it.

Unlike the Reagan joke there is no (publicly) known way create a focus of a paranoia. Suddenly inducing it does not guarantee the focus of the paranoia. Of course this is predicated on the publicly condition. Even so, only rarely does paranoia lead to doing something about the focus, like try to kill it.

Mania is the opposite of depression. When in a manic phase people have no regard for the consequences of their actions. They have the feeling they can do anything. They write bad checks, proposition every woman who takes their fancy, and will binge on drugs and alcohol publicly. This behavior continues towards the police should they arrive. If one wished to discredit a public figure this would be the perfect drug particularly if they are not independently wealthy politicians.

The issue which sparked this article was the 22 August 2002 suicide of a New York Times business editor. The original eyewitness reported by Matt Drudge was that he suddenly changed while people watched and immediately threw himself off of the roof of the building. I am writing this article right after hearing of it so I have no additional information.

This entire article proves nothing. It establishes nothing. It hints at nothing. It merely recites some facts and lays out a route to a useful objective. But I do have to ask, if these drugs do not exist, why not?
Excellent, superb, fantastic and informative post I agree completely I'd even go so far as to say there's probably some sort of Philip K Dick style psy-op weapon that's been created under a black budget out there they can probably use to influence their target completely. Even by releasing DMT in the brain or causing some sort of paralysis that turns the person into a human puppet with invisible strings.

Where there any witnesses on the bridge? Or just on the boat below?
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Old 30-08-2012, 06:21 AM   #16
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I have to add also, within the pictures of Prometheus in the video posted above was there scenes cut out? I remember the advanced being seeding humanity here but I do not remember the pictures of them meeting with robes on being in the film.

Could Ridley have deleted footage that maybe somebody doesn't want to see in there?

Could he have had something planned for the Prometheus sequel that would have been too close to home for some deep brotherhood of the serpent, freemason, style society out there?

I'm going to rewatch Domino just in case there's any clues within that.
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Old 30-08-2012, 07:03 AM   #17
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we should all know by now, that when a celebrity "commits suicide" it actually means they were murdered.

the powers that be like to use the suicide card, to totally discredit the person. and unfortunetly, the majority fall for it.
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Old 30-08-2012, 08:05 AM   #18
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Excellent, superb, fantastic and informative post I agree completely I'd even go so far as to say there's probably some sort of Philip K Dick style psy-op weapon that's been created under a black budget out there they can probably use to influence their target completely. Even by releasing DMT in the brain or causing some sort of paralysis that turns the person into a human puppet with invisible strings.

Where there any witnesses on the bridge? Or just on the boat below?
It is my understanding there were both, & a video of him jumping (maybe even 2)- kind of gruesome- wierd to me.

I did work with a man about the same age who committed suicide by jumping off a bridge - he had alzheimers & did not want to end up like another member of his family.

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Old 30-08-2012, 08:24 AM   #19
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Another hollywood suicide:

Brian Gerber, Film Producer Behind Digital Hollywood Summit, Commits Suicide off Angeles Crest Highway
By Simone Wilson Wed., Aug. 29 2012 at 12:35 PM


Brian Gerber went missing on Monday afternoon.
Update, 1 p.m.: Gerber's suicide was just confirmed in a post on his Facebook profile. Headline and story have been changed to reflect this fact.

Another well-loved member of the L.A. film industry -- documentary producer and digital-tech pioneer Brian Gerber -- took his life this week by driving his car off the Angeles Crest Highway. (Famed director Tony Scott jumped off the Vincent Thomas Bridge just last week.)

According to Battalion Chief Ron Larriva of the L.A. County Fire Department, the LAPD and Sheriff's Department began searching Angeles Crest Highway for Gerber early this morning, after being informed by his family that he was distraught and thinking of running his car off a cliff in the area.

Around 7:30 a.m., Larriva says investigators found "a suicide note up on the rock" at mile marker 32, as well as a car that had plummeted 500 to 600 feet down the embankment into Angeles National Forest. "It must have happened late last night or early this morning," Larriva says.

Inside the vehicle was a fatally injured 41-year-old Los Angeles resident, says Sheriff's Lieutenant Angela Shepherd, although she's "not releasing any names."

TheWrap reports that, according to inside sources, the wrecked vehicle was Gerber's silver Prius:

Two individuals with knowledge of the case told TheWrap that the producer left a suicide note. Those same sources said the police have found Gerber's car in the Angeles Crest, but police would not officially confirm out of concern for Gerber's family.

Gerber was a founder and organizer for Digital Hollywood's big biannual content summit, which claims to "bring the world of content creators into the fold of digital production, marketing and technology." The next one was scheduled for mid-October at the Ritz-Carlton in Marina del Rey.

His biggest production credits include The 11th Hour, Leonardo DiCaprio's global-warming documentary, and The Dungeon Masters.

The missing man has two young children with actress Arabella Field, who played small parts in National Treasure and Dante's Peak. Her 2010 TV show, Sex and the Austen Girl, was produced by Gerber.

The producer's friends, family and supporters have been flooding his Facebook page with updates and information, encouraging everybody to contact the media and police. They said he was depressed and had left a suicide note saying he was headed to Angeles Crest Highway. But around 11:50 a.m. today, a Facebook user named Amanda Copeland wrote:

"Brian has been found. Please stand by for the statement his family may wish to make about this."

Presently, the LAPD will not release information on Gerber to anyone besides his immediate family. We will update with the latest word from law enforcement and the coroner as soon as we receive it.

Update: Around 12:50 p.m., the following statement was posted to Gerber's profile.

"Our worst fears regarding Brian Gerber have been confirmed. Brian's family thanks you for all the condolences, good thoughts, prayers and asks for your patience and understanding during this most difficult of times. Obviously they are overwhelmed with this situation and are asking for privacy. We will be in touch as soon as arrangements have been made for services."

In response to the news, Facebook friend Lysa Heslov remembers him as a "a kind, wonderful and compassionate man" with "a smile that lit up the room." And another friend, Brian Seth Hurst, writes: "I was always lifted by your smiling face, impressed by your knowledge and inspired by your integrity."

Here he is giving an interview on documentary film The 11th Hour, circa 2007.
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Old 30-08-2012, 06:59 PM   #20
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Totally agree.
I am also agree with you. infinityandlove is right.
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