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Old 20-05-2014, 10:32 AM   #781
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Korebolter have you read Mien Kampf and do you agree that Adolf Hitler wrote it, and it is as presented his plans for Germany?
I believe it has been altered. No way would the Jewish Elites create the biggest hoax of all time (holocaust lie) and then allow his actual book to be read by millions of people.

Along with their propagandistic hollywood movies, they needed a version of 'Mein Kampf' that fitted their story.

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Old 20-05-2014, 01:32 PM   #782
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I believe it has been altered. No way would the Jewish Elites create the biggest hoax of all time (holocaust lie) and then allow his actual book to be read by millions of people.

Along with their propagandistic hollywood movies, they needed a version of 'Mein Kampf' that fitted their story.

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Around ten million copies of Mein Kampf were sold while Hitler was still alive.

How did the "Jewish Elite" manage to swap all of them for their version?

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Old 20-05-2014, 02:58 PM   #783
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I believe it has been altered. No way would the Jewish Elites create the biggest hoax of all time (holocaust lie) and then allow his actual book to be read by millions of people.

Along with their propagandistic hollywood movies, they needed a version of 'Mein Kampf' that fitted their story.



Please offer your PROOF of this outrageous statement. You are always asking for proof of the holocaust, how about providing proof for this ridiculous statement?











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i can find no evidence that any jews were in camps pre 1939,

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Old 20-05-2014, 02:58 PM   #784
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Around ten million copies of Mein Kampf were sold while Hitler was still alive.

How did the "Jewish Elite" manage to swap all of them for their version?
They crept into their houses at night and altered them.....


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Old 21-05-2014, 08:27 PM   #785
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Still waiting for your proof that the "Jewish elite" altered mein kampf...
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Old 24-05-2014, 07:38 PM   #786
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Kore is of course correct. There exists many different copies and translations of Mein Kampf. To think that some of these copies don't contain some inaccurate translations or haven't been altered in some way is extremely naive to say the least. Mein Kampf: Mein Kampf A Translation Controversy free download

The publishing of Mein Kampf has been in the hands of the natural enemies of national socialism since the end of the war. It's said that practically all English translations of Mein Kampf are misleading and give quite deliberate false representation of Hitler's ideas and the National Socialism. There is said to be only one English translation authorized and approved by the Reich for publishing? The James Murphy 1939 Edition. James Murphy translated Mein Kampf from about 1935-1939 in Germany after receiving approval to do so from Adolf Hitler who owned the copyright to his book. James Murphy was an Irish Catholic Priest. whether this is true or not , who knows?
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Old 24-05-2014, 08:06 PM   #787
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Still waiting for your proof that the "Jewish elite" altered mein kampf...
That kind of proof can only be provided by those involved in such an act. To ask an ordinary person for this level of authenticity shows you want too much, and require something you know they can't provide.
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Kore is of course correct. There exists many different copies and translations of Mein Kampf. To think that some of these copies don't contain some inaccurate translations or haven't been altered in some way is extremely naive to say the least. Mein Kampf: Mein Kampf A Translation Controversy free download

The publishing of Mein Kampf has been in the hands of the natural enemies of national socialism since the end of the war. It's said that practically all English translations of Mein Kampf are misleading and give quite deliberate false representation of Hitler's ideas and the National Socialism. There is said to be only one English translation authorized and approved by the Reich for publishing? The James Murphy 1939 Edition. James Murphy translated Mein Kampf from about 1935-1939 in Germany after receiving approval to do so from Adolf Hitler who owned the copyright to his book. James Murphy was an Irish Catholic Priest. whether this is true or not , who knows?

Ten million copies plus printed during Hitler's lifetime.

Ninety million German speakers in this world.

Thousands of the original copies still around.

Even Goebbels couldn't sell that lie.
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Old 24-05-2014, 08:18 PM   #789
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That kind of proof can only be provided by those involved in such an act. To ask an ordinary person for this level of authenticity shows you want too much, and require something you know they can't provide.
Then why say it ? Just more hate speech ?
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Kore is of course correct. There exists many different copies and translations of Mein Kampf. To think that some of these copies don't contain some inaccurate translations or haven't been altered in some way is extremely naive to say the least. Mein Kampf: Mein Kampf A Translation Controversy free download

The publishing of Mein Kampf has been in the hands of the natural enemies of national socialism since the end of the war. It's said that practically all English translations of Mein Kampf are misleading and give quite deliberate false representation of Hitler's ideas and the National Socialism. There is said to be only one English translation authorized and approved by the Reich for publishing? The James Murphy 1939 Edition. James Murphy translated Mein Kampf from about 1935-1939 in Germany after receiving approval to do so from Adolf Hitler who owned the copyright to his book. James Murphy was an Irish Catholic Priest. whether this is true or not , who knows?
If you have read it you will know that you could not swap a few words here and there, or a few sentences here and there, or a few paragraphs here or there, without making it blindingly obvious you had changed the whole book.

There is no way of altering Hitler's turgid prose to subtly change his meaning.

That is not how the book is written.

It was and is the most vivid account of what Hitler planned to do to Europe when he achieved full dictatorial powers over Germany.

The irony is in seeking to defend him it is his supporters who are the ones twisting his words.

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The death and destruction on all sides was an appalling tragedy. What should never be forgotten, is that those who orchestrated the carnage of WW2, were on the same 'side'. A hidden and malevolent cabal, with enough hatred of humanity to gloat as millions of men, women, children and animals were being sacrificed.

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Interesting fact : one survivor of the Dresden bombings was American author Kurt Vonnegut, at that time an American P.O.W. (with a German name) ,who, luckily for him, was working as forced labour in a deep underground Dresden meat cellar. His lucky escape and survival experience was to inspire his book "Slaughterhouse Five. "

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The Guernica controversy

[No contemporary photographs are known to exist of air raid damage in Guernica]

ON APRIL 26, 1937 a handful of planes of the "Condor Legion" carried out sporadic air attacks on the Basque town of Guernica, to deny an important river crossing to the retreating Republican (Communist) forces of the Spanish government. Ninety-eight people died.

The Condor Legion was a squadron of airforce "volunteers" provided by Hitler's Luftwaffe to the insurgents fighting under General Francisco Franco.

The air raid on Guernica became a centerpiece of communist and Left-wing propaganda against Hitler and Mussolini. True, reporters later found the town center devastated, but by whom? By the bombs, or after the raid by withdrawing Communists armed with dynamite by the regions' miners?

Reporting on a visit to Guernica, The Times Military Correspondent stated on May 5, 1937:

"That Guernica after a week's bombardment by aircraft and artillery should not have shown signs of fire supports the Nationalist contention that aircraft were not responsible for the burning of this town, which was bombed intermittently for a period of two hours. In Guernica few fragments of bombs have been recovered, the façades of buildings still standing are unmarked, and the few craters I inspected were larger than anything hitherto made by a bomb in Spain. From their position it is a fair inference that these craters were caused by exploding mines which were unscientifically laid to cut roads."

A further unidentified source echoed this: "What actually happened was that industrial Basques, miners from Asturias, experts in explosives, fired and dynamited the town to a prearranged plan. Two French artillery officers, veterans of World War One inspected the town when Franco's troops entered. What they saw was, they said, largely the result of arson and incendiarism. Petrol had been largely used, plus dynamite. Each alleged 'bomb' crater coincided with a sewer-manhole on the street, and where there had been no sewers there had been no 'bombs.'"

And Sir Arnold Wilson, Conservative Member of Parliament for Hitchin, Hertfordshire, wrote to The Observer after a visit to Guernica, on October 3, 1937: There was no evidence of damage from aerial bombardment, he said, but "most if not all of the damage was caused by wilful incendiarism and such is the verdict of the inhabitants." Sir Arnold was convinced that Guernica was a "put-up job," a Red atrocity-story calculated to recoil on Franco and the Germans. http://www.fpp.co.uk/History/General/
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Communist propaganda.

What you and some others totally fail to take into account is the fact the bombing of Guernica wasn't the deliberate targeting of civilians at all. Unlike what the Allies did to Germany, and Japan.

The bombing (of small parts) of Guernica was a tactical mission in support of military operations, mostly against Communist forces and Communist Partisans, which had also been terrorising and oppressing the civilian populations.

The Conduct of the Aerial War in 1935 is a document which the Luftwaffe adopted, where the Luftwaffe rejected the terror bombing of Civilians. Such bombing campaigns were regarded as immoral and illegal under international law, and diversion from the Luftwaffe's main operations i.e military targets, and the destruction of enemy armed forces (Blitzkrieg). The bombing of cities such as Guernica, Rotterdam and also Warsaw were tactical missions in support of military operations and were NOT intended as deliberate attacks on the civilian populations. Unfortunately in war civilians will also become casualties, whether intentional or otherwise.

The bombing of Germany was a war crime of epic proportions, because it definitely did intentionally target civilians.

Operation ''Rugen'' The bombing of Guernica (26 April 1937) was carried out at the behest of the Spanish Nationalist government by its allies, Germany and Italy.

There's no evidence whatsoever that suggests the Luftwaffe deliberately began terror bombing civilians during the Spanish Civil War, or indeed on the raid on Guernica, or that there were no military targets in Guernica. Even if that weren't the case, it still doesn't in anyway excuse the Allied terror bombing of German civilians, which dwarfs Guernica anyhow. Deliberate or otherwise. Which it wasn't

Many reliable (and primary) sources also state that Guernica was a legitimate military target, because of Communist forces in and around the town. One source, Hitler's Luftwaffe in the Spanish Civil War, (which uses original German sources including von Richthofen's diaries), basically states there is no evidence that the raid was to target civilians and that it was part of a strategy to trap enemy ground forces during their advance to Bilbao.

I also believe the true number of civilian casualties has been lied about. The true number was more like 120-150. Which is hardly comparable to what the Allies did to Germany.


Also consider this below. That's is if you want to start seeing beyond Communist propaganda. Once you realise the truth, which unfortunately I feel you probably never will, you'll realise why I made the film I posted a few posts back. The same goes for my U-boat service video, who also acted a lot more honourably than the Allies ever did. Especially when compared to the Communists.

The Guernica controversy

[No contemporary photographs are known to exist of air raid damage in Guernica]

ON APRIL 26, 1937 a handful of planes of the "Condor Legion" carried out sporadic air attacks on the Basque town of Guernica, to deny an important river crossing to the retreating Republican (Communist) forces of the Spanish government. Ninety-eight people died.

The Condor Legion was a squadron of airforce "volunteers" provided by Hitler's Luftwaffe to the insurgents fighting under General Francisco Franco.

The air raid on Guernica became a centerpiece of communist and Left-wing propaganda against Hitler and Mussolini. True, reporters later found the town center devastated, but by whom? By the bombs, or after the raid by withdrawing Communists armed with dynamite by the regions' miners?

Reporting on a visit to Guernica, The Times Military Correspondent stated on May 5, 1937:

"That Guernica after a week's bombardment by aircraft and artillery should not have shown signs of fire supports the Nationalist contention that aircraft were not responsible for the burning of this town, which was bombed intermittently for a period of two hours. In Guernica few fragments of bombs have been recovered, the façades of buildings still standing are unmarked, and the few craters I inspected were larger than anything hitherto made by a bomb in Spain. From their position it is a fair inference that these craters were caused by exploding mines which were unscientifically laid to cut roads."

A further unidentified source echoed this: "What actually happened was that industrial Basques, miners from Asturias, experts in explosives, fired and dynamited the town to a prearranged plan. Two French artillery officers, veterans of World War One inspected the town when Franco's troops entered. What they saw was, they said, largely the result of arson and incendiarism. Petrol had been largely used, plus dynamite. Each alleged 'bomb' crater coincided with a sewer-manhole on the street, and where there had been no sewers there had been no 'bombs.'"

And Sir Arnold Wilson, Conservative Member of Parliament for Hitchin, Hertfordshire, wrote to The Observer after a visit to Guernica, on October 3, 1937: There was no evidence of damage from aerial bombardment, he said, but "most if not all of the damage was caused by wilful incendiarism and such is the verdict of the inhabitants." Sir Arnold was convinced that Guernica was a "put-up job," a Red atrocity-story calculated to recoil on Franco and the Germans. http://www.fpp.co.uk/History/General/
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