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Old 26-04-2013, 10:45 PM   #63681
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Assuming Max Clifford is sitting on explosive information, his problem would be who with mainstream credibility would run with it. If there is an outlet for it, the information would have value, but if they close ranks, it's of no use to him. I'd be very worried in his shoes... I think I'd be making my own food and drink. 70 year old having a heart attack? No story there, happens all the time. Or maybe the shame causes him to go all David Kelly on us...

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Old 26-04-2013, 11:03 PM   #63682
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Meanwhile the insidious establishment agenda for the sexualization of children continues unabated. According to this BBC story today, a think tank known as the Sex Education Forum now wants pornography to be taught in schools :-

"Teachers need to know that pornography is not necessarily 'all bad' and can sometimes be 'helpful', a group of sex education experts has suggested.

A new publication advocates pupils being taught how to view pornography in school sex education lessons.

The Sex Education Forum wants pornography taught in terms of "media literacy and representation, gender, sexual behaviour and body image".
Campaigner Lucy Holmes, of No More Page Three, welcomed the idea.

"The more open and honest dialogue we have with young people about sex and porn, the better," said Ms Holmes."

Full story here :-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-22308393

Are Common Purpose behind these creeps? They sound like PIE with better P.R.
There was a report today that 6 year olds in Berlin were being taught how to put condoms on - and parents were understandably furious.

CP is a Euro backed entity - but I'd speculate it's much more global than ust regional. The goal is obviously to reprogram and break down values so that programing of subservient slaves and psychos is more efficient.

What's the betting that these child care experts are of the same ilk as Righton and Morrison and Wyre?


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Assuming Max Clifford is sitting on explosive information, his problem would be who with mainstream credibility would run with it. If there is an outlet for it, the information would have value, but if they close ranks, it's of no use to him. I'd be very worried in his shoes... I think I'd be making my own food and drink. 70 year old having a heart attack? No story there, happens all the time. Or maybe the shame causes him to go all David Kelly on us...
Could it be that Max was told to get rid of his store of dirt on VIP's when he was last arrested. Perhaps he didn't do as he was told? Perhaps he kept some data? Now he's rearrested they can seize his pc and check?

Except he's been wheeling and dodging and covering up all his life - it's what makes him a living. He probably has equivalent info to what Murdoch has in his vaults.

I'd guess he has a get out of jail free card to play - and an insurance policy that if anything untoward happens - sh1t will hit a fan somewhere.

It's either that - or like Savile -like Stephen Ward - he's an operative and he's a part of the Lord Machiavelli game.

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Old 26-04-2013, 11:05 PM   #63683
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Meanwhile the insidious establishment agenda for the sexualization of children continues unabated. According to this BBC story today, a think tank known as the Sex Education Forum now wants pornography to be taught in schools :-

"Teachers need to know that pornography is not necessarily 'all bad' and can sometimes be 'helpful', a group of sex education experts has suggested.

A new publication advocates pupils being taught how to view pornography in school sex education lessons.

The Sex Education Forum wants pornography taught in terms of "media literacy and representation, gender, sexual behaviour and body image".
Campaigner Lucy Holmes, of No More Page Three, welcomed the idea.

"The more open and honest dialogue we have with young people about sex and porn, the better," said Ms Holmes."

Full story here :-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-22308393

Are Common Purpose behind these creeps? They sound like PIE with better P.R.
Absolutely ridiculous and I hope all parents remove their children from such lessons.

Found this link to the Sex Education Forum. On their Policy and Campaigns section they are asking people to write to their MP (template letter available) saying 'Don't take sex education back to the 1950s'.

This group apparently represent 90 organisations committed to improving sex and relationships education (SRE) for children and young people.
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Old 26-04-2013, 11:12 PM   #63684
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Six year olds being taught to put on condoms
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Old 26-04-2013, 11:17 PM   #63685
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I'm sorry - but that posting is but one - tiny - section.

Oh for sure, things can be summarised very easily - and briefly - and in plain English - thus: -

Jersey is a semi-legal fiction - and constitutional quasi-realm - that has been for centuries lawless - run by an entrenched and profoundly corrupt oligarchy of local potentates - who have always garnered their authority - and power - from the British Crown - because that arrangement - and what Jersey provides - has always suited very well indeed the interest of the monarchy, its barons and vassals.

Jersey is - essentially - a kind of "sewer" - for the British oligarchy.

Which is why they have allowed their appointees here to run the place in such a nakedly decadent and lawless and dangerous manner.

The powers-that-be in London - ARE THE authorities that are responsible for the Jersey gangsters.

Therefore - the battle - the war - is against that London establishment.

And this war is - as are all such wars - ultimately wars against lawyers - therefore, short and plain-English just won't cut it I'm afraid.

Stuart
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Old 26-04-2013, 11:34 PM   #63686
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Nope - even that is nothing compared to THE PRICE (just ask the likes of Tony Roma).

It's ALL on the first few hundred pages of this thread.

Complete smokescreen. Do people still not see what we're looking at here?

If he comes out alive he'll be lucky imo. And that's why he's shitting himself - he knows it.

They're getting desperate I guess in the face of our persistence on here and so many on twitter and around the world now, which is why they're throwing us bigger 'scraps' like Clifford.

Still nowhere near the top.

Cliff Richard is a tier or two above Clifford, the question for me has to be 'why'.

Interesting...
Is it possible that Clifford knows dirty secrets but not the dirtiest ones at the very top? He may have been useful in covering most things but reached the glass ceiling. If he doesn't know all, then he's a disposable item if the need is to throw out another bone. And he may have been told just enough to be scared, but not enough to be dangerous. He might be a link to sever to preserve what is above him.
Who else is on CR's tier?
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Old 27-04-2013, 12:10 AM   #63687
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I'd rather you not comment on my posts, i think you're untrustworthy.
what if the memory fails?
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Old 27-04-2013, 12:22 AM   #63688
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What possibly makes you think that?
Probably referring to these recent tweets from Alan Sugar...of course they don't mean he's a paedo but he has an interesting take on things...he seems to be inviting people to assume that the allegations are just some groupies looking for cash....

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Lord Sugar Lord Sugar ‏@Lord_Sugar 6h

If Max Clifford ( no friend of mine ) is guilty of alleged sexual offences of a 14 year old.If found guilty he deserves to be punished.
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Lord Sugar Lord Sugar ‏@Lord_Sugar 6h

I wonder how many above the age of consent people in the 60's who were groupies,looking for the high life are now selling their stories
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Lord Sugar Lord Sugar ‏@Lord_Sugar 6h

I agree alleged acts of paedophilia are repulsive and should have no time stamp on them.But we don't know what Max Clifford is charged for.
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Lord Sugar Lord Sugar ‏@Lord_Sugar 7h

Max Clifford charged with 11 counts of indecent assault ....these alleged incidents go back to the 60's why have the claims just come now ?
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Old 27-04-2013, 12:42 AM   #63689
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Nope - even that is nothing compared to THE PRICE (just ask the likes of Tony Roma).

It's ALL on the first few hundred pages of this thread.

Complete smokescreen. Do people still not see what we're looking at here?

If he comes out alive he'll be lucky imo. And that's why he's shitting himself - he knows it.

They're getting desperate I guess in the face of our persistence on here and so many on twitter and around the world now, which is why they're throwing us bigger 'scraps' like Clifford.

Still nowhere near the top.

Cliff Richard is a tier or two above Clifford, the question for me has to be 'why'.

Interesting...
As usual, HTDJ is on the money here. THE PRICE is what you need to be looking at.

Read Faust. Or just internet search (Jeez nearly used the word Google) Faust or Dr.Faustus, that's what we're dealing with here folks.
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Old 27-04-2013, 01:03 AM   #63690
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Probably referring to these recent tweets from Alan Sugar...of course they don't mean he's a paedo but he has an interesting take on things...he seems to be inviting people to assume that the allegations are just some groupies looking for cash....

https://twitter.com/Lord_Sugar
or trying to steer it towards that the press is to blame for supplying the cash

which it doesn't look like they are, currently
think they finished their investigations, a while ago
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Old 27-04-2013, 01:12 AM   #63691
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no question that clifford has made alot of powerful enemies in his time....some of them senior figures in the british establishment...the same establishment who for years turned a blind eye to saville's activities and other paedohphille rings....looks to me as if this is the rich and powerful finally gaining revenge on clifford for his role in exposing how rotten, corrupt and vile some of them really are .......dare to cross or embarress the british establishment and they wil always get you in the end.....im sure the judge has already been appointed.and received appropriate 'instructions'...dont be surprised if max does a stephen ward or a fred west...now that would be very convenient for some very famous very rich very establishment people.....
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Old 27-04-2013, 04:50 AM   #63692
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no question that clifford has made alot of powerful enemies in his time....some of them senior figures in the british establishment...the same establishment who for years turned a blind eye to saville's activities and other paedohphille rings....looks to me as if this is the rich and powerful finally gaining revenge on clifford for his role in exposing how rotten, corrupt and vile some of them really are .......dare to cross or embarress the british establishment and they wil always get you in the end.....im sure the judge has already been appointed.and received appropriate 'instructions'...dont be surprised if max does a stephen ward or a fred west...now that would be very convenient for some very famous very rich very establishment people.....
Max is definitely a suicide risk - know what I mean?
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Old 27-04-2013, 06:47 AM   #63693
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Can anyone lip read? At around the 2.28 minute mark he talks about a randy old sod who likes the young ladies who gives money to a hospice. When he mentions the hospice he points towards the window behind him twice as if the hospice is close by.

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Old 27-04-2013, 07:20 AM   #63694
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As always, it's worth searching old posts and going back to the first few hundred pages of the thread (ignoring the slow start where people were saying 'Savile can't have been a paedophile - which actually is a lesson well worth remembering in itself).

I posed the question 'why?'. Well, I think we all know that now. We just haven't quite got enough evidence yet (keep digging everyone!), or momentum (which is still gathering pace and which will come).

This is Anders replying to a post, which he included as text in his reply. So just to be clear I've cut that out and will post it first:

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(I can find the clip on iplayer if people need sources). The BIG QUESTION, that seems to be flying under the radar at the moment, is that if it was such a well know fact, if people from the BBC to the NHS knew of, at the very least, rumours regarding Savile. Why was he given a knighthood, why was he allowed be get close to and befriend the royal family? He was knighted in 1990 - well after it seems, that these rumours were common knowledge. Did nobody in the government think twice about putting him on the honours list or inviting him to chequers on a regular basis (as Maggie Thatcher did)? Did nobody at the palace think twice about making a well known child rapist a 'Sir'? Did nobody think to tap Price Charles on the shoulder and inform him, best to stay away, he's not all he seems? I find it unbelievable, that something so well known, could not have been known about by the government and the royal family. Which, beggars the question which could blow this thing wide open. If everyone knew - why was he still knighted and why was he welcomed with open arms in Government and Royal circles? WHY?
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Very good post but very naive - not your fault if you don't have the background research under your belt.

WHY?

Surely it is OBVIOUS???

The Royals were in on it too, also the .mil and .spooks

The judiciary

The police

The child gatekeepers

Rancid RatFace

JIM Gamble of CEOPS - Brown has a D notice with Gamble protecting the murderers of Maddie McCann

You need to read some of STEPPEWAR's posts

Go read them

Read all the Tony Roma posts, because he names names

Read up on Charles and his sexual bent

Andrew shagging underage girls pimped by Epstein

The royals are not even ENGLISH FFS

they are impostors that are totally out of control

Sexually

Morally

Spiritually

All your questions are answered on this thread

The ESTABLISHMENT is ROTTEN TO THE CORE

All out heroes are corrupt rimmers!!?

SIR FUCKING ELTON

SIR FUCKING MICK

SIR FUCKING PAUL

SIR FUCKING BOB

SIR FUCKING CLIFF

GEDDIT???????

ROTTEN SCUM

if I were a famous rock star I'd tell them to get stuffed with their blood soaked gongs

We need the equivalent of the apartheid reconciliation trials

Most of those with SIR gongs should be in a top security prison

I know the score

Steppewar does

Tony Roma does

We need to name the names and name their crimes

And we need those names to go VIRAL before they get a chance to torture tape and murder even more
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Old 27-04-2013, 07:34 AM   #63695
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As usual, HTDJ is on the money here. THE PRICE is what you need to be looking at.

Read Faust. Or just internet search (Jeez nearly used the word Google) Faust or Dr.Faustus, that's what we're dealing with here folks.
THE PRICE.

A Faustian pact - exactly.

That's the 'why', in three little words.
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Old 27-04-2013, 07:44 AM   #63696
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Last one from me. From a telling discussion earlier in the thread about freemasons, as we had another one here recently with the usual spin (and couldn't/wouldn't confirm or deny Berkshire resident Rolf is a freemason, despite apparently being a top-level mason from...Berkshire ).

For those that don't know you can go to an original post by clicking on the little light blue box at the top of a quote with the little right-facing arrow in it. Sometimes following conversations backwards can be very very insightful

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I agree with you...

But that's what the rituals are for.

They whole system is psychic mind-control

The Masons don't take any chances.

As soon as a mason even has so much as a thought to turn on his brothers, the mind control kicks in, the oaths sworn under dramatic and heightened states of awareness, come back to him and shake his being....



I'm not even sure if any mason could even beat his mind control even if he wanted....

But I await Welling to tell me this is all nonsense.

It isn't.

I experienced it. I never took the formal masonic oaths in a lodge, but I had training from masonic mentors and the 'hidden masters'.

I quit before the oaths. If I'd made the oaths chances are I wouldn't be posting here.

What's needed is some kind of counselling for freemasons, or some kind of 'deconditioning'.

(Monty Python vid link at this point - htdj)
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I had an uncle that had a very mysterious masonic background that stretched back to Frankfurt and Nazi Germany and chatting to him once opened up quite a bit to me when he suddenly went white and said he would have his tongue cut out or found hanging if he was found out what he had told me another 'man of the cloth' stated that he backed out of a ritual 'above the third' that was very immoral (and he was gay) that must I imagine have included some lurid sexual aspect..I have a relative that has a dead end job and I was very surprised when he told me he had joned but told me he had nightmares since joining as you describe EP

I know they are financially well looked after but they must be paying a price ultimately ..the soul?
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Old 27-04-2013, 07:51 AM   #63697
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that person has more knowledge of north wales and the events there than you could possibly comprehend honey...

as for vetted....what vetting can they possibly do between now and monday that would prove a persons story?
when, after 22 years i still cannot prove i lived there, what chance has anyone else got of doing so?
as for damaging a case..... i think any real victim would do everything in their power to see justice for all
Why are you taking offense at this? I didn't mean anything personal at all to you or anyone else who have put in the work about North Wales. If you are involved in this meeting, then I apologise to you because though this site, I'm aware of your hard work.

However, you must also be aware that there are people with vested interests to destroy any hard work that's been done.............and that's what my post was about in the fact that it could be ANY anonymous person who has a vested interest in discrediting the work that's been done.

However on reflection, I'm pretty sure that you are right about most people who would come forward to being interviewed being genuine....but there's no harm in caution too given what we now know about certain people not wanting the truth to come out and the lengths they would go to to keep it buried.
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Old 27-04-2013, 07:55 AM   #63698
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hangthedj...thanks for your recent posts. I pretty much agree with them all and have found going down memory lane with some of the earlier posts refreshing to keep us all going on the right path.
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Old 27-04-2013, 08:00 AM   #63699
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Very true O'Rourke and when we can clearly see the crimes they are getting away with against the most innocent in the land, our children, seeing the other dots join up becomes easier.


If anyone sits back and does nothing then they are also guilty of these crimes.


Their silence condones the criminals.
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Thanks dolores. We've got people like Max Clifford sitting in jail right now only interested in saving his own arse instead of doing the right thing and naming these child molesters. That's why I can't stand people like him who have made their millions on other people's secrets
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Old 27-04-2013, 08:22 AM   #63700
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This could do with going viral. It's short and to the point and a great way of getting people who aren't aware of this unfolding story to take note.
http://brynalynvictims.blogspot.co.u...den-evils.html

included it with 4 other videos, including a 2hr UK Column Live piece with Bill Maloney and a 45min piece about the Dutroux crimes in Belgium
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