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Old 25-11-2010, 08:45 PM   #21
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First, ladybird. I think im in love thx for posting this.


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hi ladybird.I can't even wake up my own family. I really hate to say it but I think it's too late......the divide and rule immigration is at critical numbers....
http://coherent-madness.blogspot.com...1_archive.html
I know what u mean, my family is the same way, just cant imagine that there elected politicians, would allow poison in there food, rig elections or be leading us into 1984 (the book)

I hate to say this, but maby its time we start to consider


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I dunno, im so frustrated.
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And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Old 25-11-2010, 09:45 PM   #22
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First, ladybird. I think im in love thx for posting this.


Did you read the Landig trilogy?

Might "heilen" (heal, cure) your frustration.



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3. The three allied occupying powers in Berlin decided at their meeting on 2 AUG 1945 - probably known to you as the Potsdam Conference - to re-establish the German Reich as a sovereign state within the borders of 31 DEC 1937 - (cf. SHAEF Law No. 52, article VII No. 9, para. e.) after an occupational period and a peace treaty at a certain date to be determined.

This has never been changed. The "Federal Republic of Germany" (FRG) and the "German Democratic Republic" (GDR) were founded as makeshift entities for mere administrational purposes. They have never been autonomous states by means of international law, nor were they ever recognized as such. They were never legal successors of the German Reich! Even the German Federal Constitutional Court as well as other German federal courts have stated this in their decrees 2 Bvl. 6/56, 2 BvF 1/73, 2 BvR 373/83; BVGE 2,266 (277); 3, 288 ( 319 a.f. ); 5.85(126); 6, 309, 336 and 363.


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Old 26-11-2010, 09:18 AM   #24
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Did you read the Landig trilogy?

Might "heilen" (heal, cure) your frustration.



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I will read it very interesting. wierd how some things just keep popping up in ones life, for me its the hollow earth.
Im just finishing, behold a pale horse, then ill def start the trilogy.

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And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Old 26-11-2010, 03:23 PM   #25
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I will read it very interesting. wierd how some things just keep popping up in ones life, for me its the hollow earth.
Im just finishing, behold a pale horse, then ill def start the trilogy.

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Heh, then you will like Landig.

Ive got an interview with Landig on my YT, if you understand German. Highly interesting one.
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Breaking News:


Lithuanian holocaust denial sparks European outrage


VILNIUS - Embassies from seven European countries have sent a joint letter of protest to the Lithuanian government and president over comments from a Lithuanian Interior Ministry official denying the holocaust.

In a column for Veidas, one of Lithuania's largest and most popular weeklies, historian and interior ministry advisor Dr Petras Stankeras said that the holocaust was a "legend" and that the Nuremberg trial was "the biggest legal farce in history".

"It is also important that during the Nurnberg Trial the legend about six million supposedly murdered Jews acquired a legal basis, even though the court did not have a single document signed by A. Hitler concerning the extermination of Jews (this document, if it ever existed, has not been found to this day, although a million dollar reward has been promised)," the column said.

The ambassadors of Britain, France, Sweden, Norway, Estonia, Holland and Finland on Thursday sent a letter of protest condemning the article and the fact that there "have been no public or official condemnation of Mr Stankeras's views".

The Simon Wiesenthal Center also condemned the comments and called on the state to prosecute Stankeras.

The editor of Veidas said in an interview with the Baltic News Service that the historian had meant to assert that 4 million, rather than 6 million, had been killed and that due to an editorial error the meaning had been misconstrued.

Stankeras resigned from his position Friday.


http://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/27422/



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WWI > WWII > NUREMBERG TRIALS > UN > NWO




The "Nuremberg Principles" (they deliberately avoided the term "Laws"! they know why)

On December 11, 1946, the General Assembly of the United Nations during its first session unanimously adopted a resolution affirming "the principles of international law recognised by the Charter of the Nuremberg Tribunal and by the judgement of the Tribunal". Four years later, the International Law Commission submitted seven principles to the UN which were to be taken into account in the preparation of a code of crimes against peace and against the security of humankind. The Nuremberg Principles no longer referred only to National Socialist crimes, but claimed universal applicability. (The World Is Not Enough!!!).



The "Nuremberg Principles" are:

1. Any person who commits an act which constitutes a crime under international law is responsible therefor and liable to punishment.

2. The fact that internal law does not impose a penalty for an act which constitutes a crime under international law does not relieve the person who committed the act from responsibility under international law.

3. The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law.

4. The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.

5. Any person charged with a crime under international law has the right to a fair trial on the facts and law.

6. The crimes hereinafter set out are punishable as crimes under international law:

1. Crimes against peace,
2. War crimes,
3. Crimes against humanity.

7. Complicity in the commission of a crime against peace, a war crime, or a crime against humanity as set forth in Principle VI is a crime under international law.


THINK!

.... especially about the exceptions which prove these rules to be NWO laws.

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Occupied FRG Ltd opens new exhibit on Nuremberg trial


WWII victors mark Nazi trials milestone

A combined international effort - Inspiration for further trials



NUREMBERG (FRG LTD) - REPRESENTATIVES of the four victors of World War II marked on Sunday 65 years since the landmark trials of top Nazis in Nuremberg, currently still occuppied FRG Ltd., with the opening of a new exhibit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgKkQeeA1dg

Westerwelle said the tribunal had already set an important example to the world.

'Because a lot was risked here in Nuremberg -- politically, legally and personally -- international law was able to develop and rules (he deliberately avoided the term "laws"!) could be set for future cases,'

Westerwelle



said.

As a result the UN was founded (See: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...67&postcount=4) to provide legal structures in a restive world, he added. 'We all know how imperfectly we are succeeding. But the UN can only be as strong as the member states allow.'

The UN's seven 'Nuremberg Principles' defined special offences that are worse than murder and massacre and are now called crimes against peace, war crimes and crimes against humanity. (Exceptions prove the rule)

'Strengthening international law is a measure of our action in the UN, also in the UN Security Council,' Westerwelle said. Germany joins the Security Council as a non-permanent member for two years from 2011.

He also appealed for more states to join the 114 who accept the jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice in The Hague, six decades on from the Nuremberg trials.

'We will campaign for the judgements of the court to prevail,' Westerwelle said.



Addendum for those with a free mind: Just read the article and substitute UN by NWO, does sound interesting, doesn't it?

http://sify.com/news/nuremberg-war-c...wgEjhcica.html
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,6237501,00.html



"Chile signs UN Charter 1945"

They speak the truth, we only have to listen carefully!

INTERNATIONAL LAW = UN LAW = NWO LAW = TORT

http://www.un.org/en/law/index.shtml
http://www.unrol.org/


Please excuse the extreme highlighting and capitalisation.
As this is a matter of greatest global concern from my point of view
I wish to make the most important points unmistakeably clear.


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Old 27-11-2010, 02:44 PM   #27
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So even though Germany was defeated in 1945 we are still at war as no peace treaty was ever signed?

I can see what you are getting at with the UN effectively being a backdoor for the NWO and one world government.
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Old 27-11-2010, 05:32 PM   #28
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So even though Germany was defeated in 1945 we are still at war as no peace treaty was ever signed?

I can see what you are getting at with the UN effectively being a backdoor for the NWO and one world government.
I would dare to go one step further:

WW1 > the Treaty of Versailles > WW2 deliberately led to the Nuremberg Tribunal
and thus to the creation of the UN > NWO's pseudo legislation/jurisdiction/government/army all in one = New World Order.

Mission almost accomplished!


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Old 27-11-2010, 08:11 PM   #29
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But what about Germany still being as war? Surely not after all this time.

Versaille destroyed Germany and it needed a strong leader, and lo and behold Adolf was ready.

All planned in advance and it ran like clockwork. It only took millions of people from all over the world to die for the NWO to officially take over.
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But what about Germany still being as war? Surely not after all this time.

Legally 192 states are still at war with Germany!

Unbelievable, I know, but nevertheless the truth.
And contrary to all nwo mainstream propaganda it is not the other way round and never was!!!


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UN CHARTA Article 107

Nothing in the present Charter shall invalidate or preclude action, in relation to any state which during the Second World War has been an enemy of any signatory to the present Charter, taken or authorized as a result of that war by the Governments having responsibility for such action.



Are you able to grasp what this means?
Are you?



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Please refer also to page 1 and 2 of this thread

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4. By reason of article 43 of the Hague Land Warfare Convention of 1907 (published in the RGBl. in 1910) the occupational provisional entity "Federal Republic of Germany" did not get a constitution voted for and accepted by the people, but just a "temporary law"(Grundgesetz).

A temporary law is “a provisional arrangement for the preservation of law and order in a military occupied area for a particular time.” This merely provisional nature of the “Basic Law FOR the Federal Republic of Germany” (and not a "Constitution OF the Federal Republic"!) is stated in its article 146. It says: “This constitution will become invalid at the same day when a constitution becomes effective which has been decided upon by the German people in a free decision.”

The “Federal Republic of Germany” binds itself in article 25 of its temporary law to recognize the general rules of the international law. They are an integral part of the federal law. They precede other laws and create immediate rights and obligations for the residents of the federal territory. The Hague Land Warfare Convention is a contract under international law and is superior to the “Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany”.


Please refer to previous comments on "international law" = UN law = NWO law = Tort

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5. The Hague Land Warfare Convention determines a maximum of 60 years for the occupation of a country. The winning power has the obligation to sign a peace treaty, otherwise it violates international law.

Even in the U.S.A. real estate sales have to be checked retrospectively for sixty years for this reason. As long as the Federal Republic of Germany (FRG) prevents (hinders) by its policy the transfer of governmental responsibilities to the Chancellor of the German Reich, it is fostering a war against Germany.

Therefore, only two options remain for the U.S.A.:

a) peaceful change of governmental responsibilities will happen in the FRG, which will enable the U.S.A. to sign a peace treaty with their former opponent of war; or

b) in order to secure their entitlements, the U.S.A. unfortunately would have no other choice but to reoccupy Germany in a new war against it, with all the need, misery, harm, and starving; which means that those sixty years mentioned before would start anew.


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6. The state German Reich has never ceased to exist as a subject of international law. Only the German armed forces have signed the “unconditional surrender” on 8 MAY 1945 in Berlin-Karlshorst, but not the German Reich.

The German Reich was and furthermore is without interruption an international personality, but has - as a national entity - legal capacity only, if an institutional organization is available and existing.

This has been decided by the Federal Constitutional Court as well as by other German courts with verdicts 2 Bvl. 6/56, 2 BvF 1/73, 2 BvR 373/83; BVGE 2,266 (277); 3288 ( 319 I); 5.85 (126); 6, 309, 336 and 363. In the meantime, these verdicts have never been revised and did not become obsolete due to the political changes throughout Europe.

The occupational provisional entity “Federal Republic of Germany” is and was never identical with the German Reich and therefore could not become its legal successor.



Addendum: The German Reich is NOT identical with the "Third Reich"!

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We have had in fact continuously a corporation on German soil since 1918. The Weimar Republic shares many similarities to current FRG Ltd.



I'll think about adding urgently necessary English subtitles.
I'll also have a look for an English transcript.
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We have had in fact continuously a corporation on German soil since 1918. The Weimar Republic shares many similarities to current FRG Ltd.

http://www.vimeo.com/17262739

Regierungserklaerung am 17. Mai 1933

I'll think about adding urgently necessary English subtitles.
I'll also have a look for an English transcript.


Thank you, Tinyint.

English subs would be very much appreciated!


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Still looking for the full transcript, but here some excerpts...

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"Germany will be perfectly ready to disband her entire military establishment and destroy the small amount of arms remaining to her, if the neighboring countries will do the same thing with equal thoroughness.

... Germany is entirely ready to renounce aggressive weapons of every sort if the armed nations, on their part, will destroy their aggressive weapons within a specified period, and if their use is forbidden by an international convention.

... Germany is at all times prepared to renounce offensive weapons if the rest of the world does the same. Germany is prepared to agree to any solemn pact of non-aggression because she does not think of attacking anybody but only of acquiring security."
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Quite impressive that Government Statement at the Reichstag on the German Demand for Equality called "FRIEDENSREDE" (peace speech).

Thanks for pointing it out, Tinyint.

Original Protocol of the session on March 17, 1933 at the German Reichstag:

http://www.reichstagsprotokolle.de/B...141_00051.html


I could not check this document and I do not know whether it is pc or not, but the text might be in there, at least in excerpts:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18110132/T...MPH-OF-REASON-



I found a text in German - just searching for the English translation - that was said to be that speech but it differs from the video:



"Das Blut, das auf dem europäischen Kontinent seit dreihundert Jahren vergossen wurde, steht außer jedem Verhältnis zu dem volklichen Resultat der Ereignisse. Frankreich ist am Ende Frankreich geblieben, Deutschland Deutschland, Polen Polen, Italien Italien. Was dynastischer Egoismus, politische Leidenschaft und patriotische Verblendung an scheinbaren tiefgreifenden staatspolitischen Veränderungen unter Strömen von Blut erreicht haben, hat in nationaler Beziehung stets nur die Oberfläche der Völker geritzt, ihre grundsätzliche Markierung aber wesentlich kaum mehr verschoben. Hätten diese Staaten nur einen Bruchteil ihrer Opfer für klügere Zwecke angesetzt, so wäre der Erfolg sicher größer und dauerhafter gewesen.

Wenn ich als Nationalsozialist in allem Freimut diese Auffassung vertrete, dann bewegt mich dabei noch folgende Erkenntnis: Jeder Krieg verzehrt zunächst die Auslese der Besten. Da es in Europa aber einen leeren Raum nicht mehr gibt, wird jeder Sieg – ohne an der grundsätzlichen europäischen Not etwas zu ändern – höchstens eine ziffernmäßige Vermehrung der Einwohner eines Staates mit sich bringen können. Wenn aber den Völkern daran soviel liegt, dann können sie dies, statt mit Tränen, auf eine einfachere und vor allem natürlichere Weise erreichen. Eine gesunde Sozialpolitik kann bei einer Steigerung der Geburtenfreudigkeit einer Nation in wenigen Jahren mehr Kinder des eigenen Volkes schenken, als durch einen Krieg an fremden Menschen erobert und damit unterworfen werden könnten.

Nein! Das nationalsozialistische Deutschland will den Frieden aus tiefinnersten weltanschaulichen Überzeugungen. Es will ihn weiter aus der einfachen primitiven Erkenntnis, daß kein Krieg geeignet sein würde, das Wesen unserer allgemeinen europäischen Not zu beheben, wohl aber diese zu vermehren. Das heutige Deutschland lebt in einer gewaltigen Arbeit der Wiedergutmachung seiner inneren Schäden. Keines unserer Projekte sachlicher Natur wird vor zehn bis zwanzig Jahren vollendet sein. Keine der gestellten Aufgaben ideeller Art kann vor fünfzig oder vielleicht auch hundert Jahren ihre Erfüllung finden. Ich habe einst die nationalsozialistische Revolution durch die Schaffung der Bewegung begonnen und seitdem als Aktion geführt. Ich weiß, wir alle werden nur den allerersten Beginn dieser großen umwälzenden Entwicklung erleben. Was könnte ich anders wünschen als Ruhe und Frieden? Wenn man aber sagt, daß dies nur der Wunsch der Führung sei, so kann ich darauf folgende Antwort geben: Wenn nur die Führer und Regierenden den Frieden wollen, die Völker selbst haben sich noch nie den Krieg gewünscht! ...

Was Deutschland betrifft, möchte ich hier keinen Zweifel über folgendes offenlassen: Deutschland hat Frankreich gegenüber feierlich die nach der Saarabstimmung sich ergebende Grenze angenommen und garantiert. Deutschland hat mit Polen ohne Rücksicht auf das Vergangene einen Gewaltausschließungsvertrag abgeschlossen, als einen weiteren mehr als wertvollen Beitrag zum europäischen Frieden, den es nicht nur blind halten wird, sondern von dem wir nur den einen Wunsch haben einer stets aufs neue zu erfolgenden Verlängerung und einer sich daraus immer mehr ergebenden freundschaftlichen Vertiefung unserer Beziehungen. Wir taten dies alles, trotzdem wir damit zum Beispiel endgültig auf Elsaß-Lothringen Verzicht leisten, ein Land, um das auch wir zwei große Kriege führten. Wir taten es aber, um besonders dem eigenen deutschen Volk für die Zukunft neue blutige Opfer zu ersparen. Wir sind der Überzeugung, daß wir damit nicht nur unserem Volk, sondern auch diesem Grenzgebiet am meisten nützen. Wir wollen von unserer Seite aus alles tun, um mit dem französischen Volk zu einem wahren Frieden und zu einer wirklichen Freundschaft zu kommen. Wir anerkennen den polnischen Staat als die Heimstätte eines großen national fühlenden Volkes, mit dem Verständnis und der herzlichen Freundschaft aufrichtiger Nationalisten ...

Ich kann die heutige Rede vor Ihnen, meine Mitkämpfer und Vertrauensmänner der Nation, nicht besser schließen, als durch die Wiederholung unseres Bekenntnisses zum Frieden. Die Art unserer neuen Verfassung gibt uns die Möglichkeit, in Deutschland den Kriegshetzern das Handwerk zu legen. Möge es auch den anderen Völkern gelingen, der wahren Sehnsucht ihres Inneren mutigen Ausdruck zu verleihen!
Wer in Europa die Brandfackel des Krieges erhebt, kann nur das Chaos wünschen. Wir aber leben in der festen Überzeugung, daß sich in unserer Zeit nicht erfüllt der Untergang des Abendlandes, sondern seine Wiederauferstehung. Daß Deutschland zu diesem großen Werk einen unvergänglichen Beitrag liefern möge, ist unsere stolze Hoffnung und unser unerschütterlicher Glaube."


And I found this:

Chamberlain landed at Heston Aerodrome on 30 September 1938, and spoke to the crowds there:

"...the settlement of the Czechoslovakian problem, which has now been achieved is, in my view, only the prelude to a larger settlement in which all Europe may find peace. This morning I had another talk with the German Chancellor, Herr Hitler, and here is the paper which bears his name upon it as well as mine (waves paper to the crowd - receiving loud cheers and "Hear Hears"). Some of you, perhaps, have already heard what it contains but I would just like to read it to you (proceeds to read the agreement). [...] We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement, as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again."

Later that day he stood outside Number 10 Downing Street and again read from the document and concluded:

"My good friends, this is the second time in our history that there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time [emphasis added]. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. And now I recommend you to go home and sleep quietly in your beds."


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7. The only authority capable to decide about territorial and national concerns is the government of the German Reich.

No representative of the occupational provisional entity “Federal Republic of Germany” or the occupational provisional entity “German Democratic Republic” nor any institution of those has ever been entitled to decide about Germany as a whole.

This means in plain text, that the cession of parts of German territory, e.g. to France, Poland and Russia by representatives of the entity "Federal Republic of Germany" is impossible since it is illegal and therefore incorrect from the beginning. These areas referred to remain to be parts of the German Reich and will be returned after the recovery of its full sovereignty according to international law.


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8. Berlin has never been and still is not a “state” of the “Federal Republic of Germany”.

This has been made clear by the military governors in para. 4 of their letter of approval to the temporary law dated 12 MAY 1945 when it states expressis verbis that Berlin is not a state of the Federal Republic of Germany. Also in the letter of acknowledgement of the Allied Kommandatura to the constitution of Berlin, BK/O (50) 75 of 29-8-1950 ( VOBl. I page 440) in connection with BK/O (51) 56, para. 2 of 8-10-1951 the allies suspended:


para. 2
(where is said that Berlin is a state of the Federal Republic of Germany)

and

para. 3

(which says that the Basic Law and the laws of the Federal Republic of Germany are binding for Berlin according to article 1 of the Berlin constitution of 1 SEP 1950).


These facts have been confirmed once again in the “Agreement for the solution of certain questions in reference to Berlin” of 25 SEP 1990 [BGBl. 1990, part II, page 1274]. The citizens of Berlin (in both East and West) are not citizens of the “Federal Republic of Germany”!

And once again: What is valid for the capital of the German Reich is also valid for the whole German Reich.

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9. The U.S.A. as the main victorious power of World War II confiscated among other things the “Reichsbahn” (i.e., the national railroad) as separate assets of the German Reich.

The “Provisionary Government of the German Reich” has its official residence at Königsweg No. 1 (not No. 4), 1000 [14163] Berlin -- Zehlendorf 1. This house is part of the confiscated separate assets of the German Reichsbahn.

The “Provisionary Government of the German Reich” began its work by will, by order and by approval of the U.S.A. on 8 May 1985! This - among other things - was recognized by the District Court of Berlin in a verdict under the case number 13.0.35/93.

The “Provisionary Government of the German Reich” is the only wanted, appointed, and approved government of the German Reich by the allies, represented by the U.S.A. as the main victorious power. All government representatives and all other officials of the German Reich are
subordinated to the control and the approval of the American armed forces, at last to the president of the U.S.A. as supreme commander and are sworn into office by oath.


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