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Old 18-03-2012, 10:16 PM   #2601
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Neo-Nazis are immune to these type of crimes and horrors... imagine the real Nazis!

Were you here yesterday when I posted a picture of a Nazi shooting people in a mass grave, and they began laughing and telling jokes like "that's an orgy"?

These people are sick...
Heh, that (the bolded text) is one of the understatements of 2012, on DIF.


These deranged wannabe Brownshirt thugs endlessly whine and whine and whine about being horribly oppressed by supposed "political correctness", when somebody calls them out on their filth-filled fantasizes that ooze like rancid pus on to these threads. Perhaps they'd be a threat, if their festering, feeble minds weren't such towering examples of incoherent indecency, And all of this while they are trying to hide behind the thin veneer of an obtuse pretense at civilized debate, as they simultaneously fart afflictions from their hypocritically flapping, idiot face-slits. Trying to maintain a civil demeanor with such retrogrades, is often like politely trying not to gag while in the presence of a pungent primate that has maggots crawling out of its fecal covered fur.
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Old 18-03-2012, 10:21 PM   #2602
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It's funny how some people think that just because one is against Nazism then one must be a supporter of the zionists... things aren't so black and white... I for one support neither.
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Old 18-03-2012, 10:23 PM   #2603
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It's funny how some people think that just because one is against Nazism then one must be a supporter of the zionists... things aren't so black and white... I for one support neither.
No one in this forum supports Zionism (not that I know)... but they just ran out of things to call us... I mean, they already called us Jews; so the best next thing they can think of is Zionists.

If I was given a pound for each time I'm called a Zionist, I could stop working...

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Old 18-03-2012, 10:48 PM   #2604
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No one in this forum supports Zionism (not that I know)... but they just ran out of things to call us... I mean, they already called us Jews; so the best next thing they can think of is Zionists.

If I was given a pound for each time I'm called a Zionist, I could stop working...

I don't have a problem with Zionism, in the strictest definition of what it means, even though its not my cup of tea (so you won't ever see me arguing vigorously for it or against it). It is understandable how the ideology arose after centuries of Europe intolerance toward non-Christians, many who were also ethnically distinct to greater-or-lesser degrees after the Roman Empire busted up their rebellion, and they were dispersed throughout Europe. I mention "degrees" in reference to ethnicity, as many Jewish women were taken as slaves, raped, etc., after the Judea rebellion. And of course, in later centuries many cast aside traditions and freely intermarried.

I do object to Palestinians being abused and displaced by hardline right-wing Zionists, who to me don't seem much different in some ways, to the Nazi fucks here. Before your21 was banned, it was amusing to witness the camaraderie he sometimes shared with some, while waxing poetic about the uglier aspects of Nationalism.

I don't believe in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion conspiracy. That was a bunch of bullshit invented to redirect internal angst by starting pogroms so the masses would be too busy to turn on the ruling class.


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Old 19-03-2012, 12:44 AM   #2605
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Just so people have some idea at just whom is being recomended: intoducing Arnold Leese

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As a member of the British Fascists he was elected a councillor in Stamford, Lincolnshire that year, along with fellow fascist Henry Simpson. In his autobiography, Leese wrote "We were the first constitutionally elected Fascists in England".

By 1928, having become disillusioned with the British Fascists, Leese became a founding member of the Imperial Fascist League.

By 1933, he found his own Imperial Fascist League being eclipsed and overtaken by Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists. He greatly resented Mosley and dubbed him a "kosher fascist". He utilised materials distributed by the Welt-Dienst news service headed by Ulrich Fleischhauer and wrote for it.

Leese's anti-semitism, which extended to proposing as early as 1935 the mass murder of Jews by use of gas chambers,[1] earned him a prison sentence in 1936 when he was indicted along with fellow IFL member Walter Whitehead on six counts relating to two articles published in the July issue of The Fascist (the IFL newspaper) entitled "Jewish Ritual Murder," which later appeared as a pamphlet. He was convicted and was jailed for six months in lieu of a fine for causing a public mischief. On his release he edited another pamphlet entitled "My irrelevant defence."

He was one of the last leaders of the fascist movement to be interned in the United Kingdom at the beginning of World War II under the Defence Regulation 18B.

Released on conditions in December 1943 because of ill health, Leese again returned to prison in 1947 for six months for his part in aiding escaping members of the Waffen SS.
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Old 19-03-2012, 01:21 AM   #2606
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Where exactly does Arnold Leese advocate killing jews?
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Is it "playing fair" where you insult me and I don't insult you?
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Old 19-03-2012, 01:55 AM   #2607
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Is it "playing fair" where you insult me and I don't insult you?
You see my problem with you is that you attack people rather than address the point, I recommended the book because it covers some interesting information, not because he may of or anybody he was affiliated with may of advocated killing jews. The book covers some interesting alternative information as to why Britain went to war, something that you seem to have a strange interest in suppressing. You've proved yourself over and over again Mikey that you don't want people viewing certain information that goes against the official line. Strange that considering we're on a forum that's supposed to value alternative views don't you think.
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Old 19-03-2012, 08:29 AM   #2608
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Moderator comment: the primary purpose of the forum is to allow people freedom of speech within the guidelines. Those parameters are wide and allow a lot of latitude. We have an expectation that members will have some respect for that. Can everyone please conduct themselves both on topic and in a way that is not personally directed at others. Thank you in advance.
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Old 19-03-2012, 10:30 AM   #2609
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I have closed this thread as it has just turned into uninformed speculation.

It seems that some of you have so much more info than we do

If the thread can be cleaned up, then it may be reopened.

It has been stated time and time again that speculating on who is a sock, a troll, or shill is not up to you to post on threads. if you have any suspicions, contact myself, a Forum Advisor or a mod.
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Old 07-07-2012, 09:06 PM   #2610
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Okay, thread re-opened!

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Okay, thread re-opened!

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European Union defines criminal anti-semitism

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Working Definition of Antisemitism
http://fra.europa.eu/fraWebsite/mate...tion-draft.pdf

"The purpose of this document is to provide a practical guide for identifying incidents, collecting data, and supporting the implementation and enforcement of legislation dealing with antisemitism."

Working definition: “Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”

In addition, such manifestations could also target the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. Antisemitism frequently charges Jews with conspiring to harm humanity, and it is often used to blame Jews for “why things go wrong.” It is expressed in speech, writing, visual forms and action, and employs sinister stereotypes and negative character traits.

Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:

Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.

Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.

Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.

Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).

Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.

Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.

Examples of the ways in which antisemitism manifests itself with regard to the State of Israel taking into account the overall context could include:

Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.

Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.

Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.

Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.

Antisemitic acts are criminal when they are so defined by law (for example, denial of the Holocaust or distribution of antisemitic materials in some countries).
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Old 25-02-2013, 12:41 PM   #2613
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Very good film exploring the depth of "anti-semitism" psychological warfare and gives a good historical overview on the origins of the accusation of "anti-semitism".


And here a case study on the subject David Icke and his writings.

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Is David Icke anti-Semitic?

Some months ago I watched a good friend of mine having a rather incongruous debate with some well meaning but fundamentally clueless opponents of jews and Israel over whether or not David Icke; yes the guy who promotes the weirdest conspiracy theory I have ever had the displeasure to read the case for about intergalactic shape-shifting reptiles ruling the world, was anti-jewish or not. The case that these proponents of the 'David Icke is anti-jewish' proposition were making was based on the assumption that because David Icke has been critical of Israel and places the Rothschild at the centre of his weird 'theory' about the so-called 'elite': this meant he was an opponent of the jews too.

Now I don't propose to make an exhaustive or even comprehensive study of Icke's voluminous and incoherent writing here, but rather to summarize his actual views on the subject via quoting his own words and indicate whether they can be construed as anti-jewish or not.

To start with Icke does indeed believe that intergalactic shape-shifting reptiles do indeed rule the world and are engaged in a diabolic conspiracy to 'enslave mankind' as 'robots'/'zombies', which he usually ascribes to be a form of 'fascism'. Central to Icke's theory is the role of the central bankers; or what we could call high finance, who use the power of their almost infinite wealth to push the reptilian agenda (gained through control of the major currencies of the world) and that Icke's identification of the principle agent of these intergalactic shape-shifting reptiles is the famous house of Rothschild.

Now the Rothschilds; as every schoolboy knows, are possibly the most famous; and certainly the most self-publicizing, of several major historic and current jewish banking dynasties. This on the face of it seems to suggest that Icke believes that the jews are central to this intergalactic shape-shifting reptile conspiracy doesn't it?

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http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot...i-semitic.html

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