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Old 05-11-2013, 01:56 PM   #1
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Default Why we have it ALL wrong about the Archons

The Archons APPEAR to be separate from us. We are lead to beLIEve they are separate entities. We are lead to think that they are outside of ourselves.

Nothing could be further from the truth. These are COLOSSAL lies. But these lies are the foundational lies that the Archons must tell to enslave us. Without convincing us of these lies nothing else would be possible,

The Archons are GOLLUMS. If you want to get technical, they are our collective shadow self. We created them through our unresolved stuff.

Have you ever wondered why they are so efficient at parasitizing us? Why they are so effective at playing us for our weaknesses?

Because they ARE us!

This was what I was trying to explain in the quote below. PLEASE watch the accompanying video id you are unfamiliar with it.

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Luke Skywalker in the middle of "The Empire Strikes Back" apparently fights, kills and unmasks Darth Vader in a cave only to find out he is Darth Vader! This is OUR situation too. WE are our own enemy. Massive insider George Lucas knew what he was talking about. To get an idea of what I am talking about please watch the following scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUKGTkiWik

They just desperately don't want us to know this because once we do we are in a position to take our power back. This is their FOUNDATIONAL lie. They need you to think the power lies outside of yourself at all costs. This is also why they HAVE to lie to us constantly.

Another point.

The APPARENTLY different archons are NOT really different archons at all! Another COLOSSAL lie!!

The APPARENTLY different archons are simply different aspects of the same collective shadow self. They are simply different viewpoints. They are different ways of looking at the same collective shadow self. We are like blind men each stationed around an elephant arguing about what an elephant is! Some are feeling his tail, some his trunk, some his tusks, his legs, etc. We are arguing, thinking we are talking about different creatures because we are simply experiencing different aspects of the same animal!

The joke is on us!

But there is even a BIGGER joke on us.

You see, the shadow self is our BEST teacher! Yes, the Archons/ Gollums/ our collective shadow self is there to teach us the most important lessons on all. THAT is why it exists in the FIRST place!

This is also why David is right when he says we must non-comply with its evil but we must do it from a place of love, a vibration it can't deal with.

But there is EVEN a BIGGER joke that is on us! In fact, it may be the biggest joke of all!!

The reason we CREATED this nightmare is that so we could grow by solving it and thus come into our true potential!

Many years ago David did an interview with Patrick Timpone where he said that when we get to the bottom of this rabbit hole we are going to laugh for weeks. I think I know what we are going to be laughing about.

We are being enslaved by our own sins (unresolved stuff!). This, I would argue is the deepest meaning of the ancient bit of wisdom that "we are not punished BY our sins but FOR our sins".

Our Best Friend & Best Teacher: The Shadow Self
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=258783

WHY we created this nightmare
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=258560

WE are at the bottom of the Rabbit Hole
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=251194

David Icke - One Radio Network Interview 05-25-10 (I believe this one has the laughing quote)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqwgseRV4xU
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I met a bangladeshi guy a while back who was muslim, and he was a very awake kind of person. We talked for a few hours and had a smoke together, and he explained to me the idea that each of us has our own personal Djinn(archon) that is a part of us. He said about our own Djinn know everything about us, and the idea that your Djinn can communicate with my Djinn. In this they can find out everything about each others human and report back to the person if that person has worked out how to communicate with it.

Carlos Casteneda talks in his books about the watchers(I hope I got this term right, he's talking about Djinn/archons) being a part of us. Credo Mutwa also talks about the chitauri (chita huri/archons) being of us.

I read a lot of your posts blackjack and don't often reply, but I find you post some interesting stuff and I often subscribe to your threads. Thanks brother

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I met a bangladeshi guy a while back who was muslim, and he was a very awake kind of person. We talked for a few hours and had a smoke together, and he explained to me the idea that each of us has our own personal Djinn(archon) that is a part of us. He said about our own Djinn know everything about us, and the idea that your Djinn can communicate with my Djinn. In this they can find out everything about each others human and report back to the person if that person has worked out how to communicate with it.

Carlos Casteneda talks in his books about the watchers(I hope I got this term right, he's talking about Djinn/archons) being a part of us. Credo Mutwa also talks about the chitauri (chita huri/archons) being of us.

I read a lot of your posts blackjack and don't often reply, but I find you post some interesting stuff and I often subscribe to your threads. Thanks brother

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Personal archon. Interesting idea. Could that be our own shadow self? Think of the popular image of the person who has the devil on one shoulder (the LEFT) and an angel on the right. Could that devil be the personal archon/ personal shadow self?
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:41 AM   #4
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In esoteric literature, these 'archons' are called the elementals of the personality.

Mental elemental (the mind)
Astral elemental (the emotions)
Physical elemental (the body)

and ALL of them are basically antagonistic to our Soul, and will do everything they can to hold our attention in the lower chakras and direct our activities from that level.

When the Soul is gaining ground by influencing our behaviour, then the unresolved stuff (the complexes) of our elementals will all gang up together to present the battle of the Personality versus the Soul. The personality is then called the Dweller on the Threshold.....an entity which draws strength not just from our own unconscious but from our collective unconscious.

This is why when you are nearing the point of gaining freedom from your personality drives, (drivers!) everything both within and around you will conspire to pull you down. People will arrive in your life who mirror your unresolved compusions and addictions. People will behave in ways that are meant to strengthen these elementals within you. It takes a lot of hard effort to lift yourself back up and observe this tug of the Matrix within you. The Matrix doesn't want to let you go....
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Good thread,

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I met a bangladeshi guy a while back who was muslim, and he was a very awake kind of person. We talked for a few hours and had a smoke together, and he explained to me the idea that each of us has our own personal Djinn(archon) that is a part of us. He said about our own Djinn know everything about us, and the idea that your Djinn can communicate with my Djinn. In this they can find out everything about each others human and report back to the person if that person has worked out how to communicate with it.

Carlos Casteneda talks in his books about the watchers(I hope I got this term right, he's talking about Djinn/archons) being a part of us. Credo Mutwa also talks about the chitauri (chita huri/archons) being of us.

I read a lot of your posts blackjack and don't often reply, but I find you post some interesting stuff and I often subscribe to your threads. Thanks brother

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it is called qareen which is a kind of jinn 'constant companion' with each person since birth
it is said that you can see it when you look at the mirror for too long .. especially in bathroom
see qareen from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qareen
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A qarin (Arabic: قرين‎ qarīn), according to Islamic literature, is a Jinn. Qarins are unique to each individual. Qarin literally means 'constant companion'. A qareen pushes a person to do evil things and to disobey Allaah, with the exception of Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him

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Don't forget, all of this first assumes that archons exist....
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How do you actually define archon? Some restrict the term for energetic parasitic lifeforms, others use it as an umbrella term that includes the reptilians.
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love this thread

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My experience with the Djinn is different from what people call the archons. The Djinn patiently wait in death for their enemy, they are essentially death dealers on the other side. If a person has good Karma, they are friendly spirits. In the realm of Death Dealers there are several. The Angel Of Death, Doctor Doom & Doctor Death. The Djinn fall into that same category.
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In esoteric literature, these 'archons' are called the elementals of the personality.

Mental elemental (the mind)
Astral elemental (the emotions)
Physical elemental (the body)

and ALL of them are basically antagonistic to our Soul, and will do everything they can to hold our attention in the lower chakras and direct our activities from that level.

When the Soul is gaining ground by influencing our behaviour, then the unresolved stuff (the complexes) of our elementals will all gang up together to present the battle of the Personality versus the Soul. The personality is then called the Dweller on the Threshold.....an entity which draws strength not just from our own unconscious but from our collective unconscious.

This is why when you are nearing the point of gaining freedom from your personality drives, (drivers!) everything both within and around you will conspire to pull you down. People will arrive in your life who mirror your unresolved compusions and addictions. People will behave in ways that are meant to strengthen these elementals within you. It takes a lot of hard effort to lift yourself back up and observe this tug of the Matrix within you. The Matrix doesn't want to let you go....
Very good points. This reminded me of what I read about "The Lesser Key of Solomon". The book apparently talks about 72 demons/ archons that infect / control different parts of the mind. Precisely. They are mind parasites. Parasites, at least some of them, are SPECIALISTS such a liver flukes. No doubt the same is true of the Archons. This is an important book to Satanists as the children of their elite are apparently required to study it.
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Don't forget, all of this first assumes that archons exist....
heh heh

Of course they don't exist!! (there speaks my inner archon/elemental/ego).

Something I have noticed: I'm reading an illuminating book, and I come to a point where something is stated so well, so brilliantly, and a lightbulb moment is happening in my mind, and at that precise moment, I feel a great urge to go upstairs and put clothes away, to go in the kitchen and get a cup of tea, to see if hubby wants to go for a walk.

All signs that just when the Soul and the mental body were connecting and something important was lighting up in my mind, the physical elemental sprang into action to veer me off course and take my mind off that illuminating moment because if I stayed with that moment, then even more soul ideas might light up my mind and the mind can't have that.

The mind, the emotions, and the body, don't want to submit to your soul. They want to stick with their posse of thought-forms (ideas about the world), their usual emotional compulsions and addictions, (emotion-forms) and their usual habits. All these things are living entities within our auras. If over-indulged in, they grow large and powerful and then you have the obsessive-compulsive behaviour patterns, as well as the feeling that you simply "can't help yourself" or that something has "come over you" and you don't know why you did something.

Watch the tug-of-war inside yourself, you'll soon see it happening.
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heh heh

Of course they don't exist!! (there speaks my inner archon/elemental/ego).

Something I have noticed: I'm reading an illuminating book, and I come to a point where something is stated so well, so brilliantly, and a lightbulb moment is happening in my mind, and at that precise moment, I feel a great urge to go upstairs and put clothes away, to go in the kitchen and get a cup of tea, to see if hubby wants to go for a walk.

All signs that just when the Soul and the mental body were connecting and something important was lighting up in my mind, the physical elemental sprang into action to veer me off course and take my mind off that illuminating moment because if I stayed with that moment, then even more soul ideas might light up my mind and the mind can't have that.

The mind, the emotions, and the body, don't want to submit to your soul. They want to stick with their posse of thought-forms (ideas about the world), their usual emotional compulsions and addictions, (emotion-forms) and their usual habits. All these things are living entities within our auras. If over-indulged in, they grow large and powerful and then you have the obsessive-compulsive behaviour patterns, as well as the feeling that you simply "can't help yourself" or that something has "come over you" and you don't know why you did something.

Watch the tug-of-war inside yourself, you'll soon see it happening.
Sorry you've completely lost me....
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If there is an Archon created from me, created from my dark side/shadow self then we're all f*****g doomed I can you that now and I don't wanna meet it. lol
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nah I don't agree at all with this, if you think that they are part of you then they might get a foothold in your mind which is exactly what they want. None of this add up when you take into account their technologies,techniques and their system on the other side and the fact that all of this is hidden from most humans anyway. They do try to influence people around you to drag you down and back in line if it can be done, the key is to be positive no matter what so they can't get through you.

As dark as they are they do abide to some universal law and this is why they are opportunistic at your own karmic downfalls and why they try to get your free-will agreement via deceptions.
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Wow, that is one thought provoking OP & kudos for referencing Empire Strikes Back! Lucas nicked the symbolic decapitation with the white knight seeing his own head in the defeated enemies helm from Arthurian legend I think.

Usually I approach all ancient text as if it is all different attempts at explaining the dynamics of the self, in the terminology and flowery prose of the time and culture it was written, knights, jedi's, angels, demons, archons, djinn etc. as a personal psychology, where we are not just waking consciousness as 'I' but a whole conglomerate of energies as 'I', each with their own idea of what is best for 'us'

I think in a natural environment, these aspects or energies, would have a better working relationship with waking consciousness, but in this fucked up world everything gets skewed. Our inner aspects are like WTF?

I am coming to the conclusions that before the fall, mankind had one undivided consciousness, and that was a time of unparalleled feats of magical wonder and co creation, but something happened on Earth that really fucked consciousness here big time. Perhaps it was a cataclysm like the flood that caused the schism, or it may even have been some outside force. I think that consciousness was then partitioned off – as a kind of triage stop gap measure, into two or possibly multiple sections, and now we have a waking consciousness more or less set apart from everything else. And attempts to explore this 'everything else' can be seen documented in ancient texts and more modern psychonauts like CG Jung

If this is the case then one wonders at the end game now – Is our plan to reunite consciousness into a unified whole?

Or is it to strengthen the partition, to concentrate on waking consciousness, at least until the shadowy subconscious is healed ?

Perhaps our job here is to to take part in an ongoing healing of the subconscious elements – whilst safely partitioned in waking consciousness. Maybe dreaming is part of the healing of the subconscious.

I dunno, this is just one of many trains of thoughts my waking consciousness spits out in an attempt to gain a fix on my current position


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In esoteric literature, these 'archons' are called the elementals of the personality.

Mental elemental (the mind)
Astral elemental (the emotions)
Physical elemental (the body)

and ALL of them are basically antagonistic to our Soul, and will do everything they can to hold our attention in the lower chakras and direct our activities from that level.

When the Soul is gaining ground by influencing our behaviour, then the unresolved stuff (the complexes) of our elementals will all gang up together to present the battle of the Personality versus the Soul. The personality is then called the Dweller on the Threshold.....an entity which draws strength not just from our own unconscious but from our collective unconscious.

This is why when you are nearing the point of gaining freedom from your personality drives, (drivers!) everything both within and around you will conspire to pull you down. People will arrive in your life who mirror your unresolved compusions and addictions. People will behave in ways that are meant to strengthen these elementals within you. It takes a lot of hard effort to lift yourself back up and observe this tug of the Matrix within you. The Matrix doesn't want to let you go....
I know nothing about any of this to be honest but i Find it interesting.

On a thread about the "stars" i seemingly bored everyone with this experience;

"Whilst living abroad (france, greece, Italy) in areas with very low light pollution, for many years i'd often pour a glass of wine, trot out into the garden and contemplate the big question(s) and there was always the same result.

I'd stare in awe at the sight before me. Dumfounded. At peace with the world and slightly detatched. Alone but not lonely. As i wondered (and wandered) searching for answers, digesting the craziness before me..my mind would open up... Elements would unravel, my line of thought would soar... I'd feel like i was "on to something..." but just when i could feel the pulse of the cosmos, just when i felt things where about to show themselves, answers to be given...BANG.

Shutdown. Like a door slamming. My mind would become traitor. Every signal in my brain would conspire against me. I'd get a headache, a fuzziness then a mental fog would descend... I could feel it, completely aware but unable to counter the effects.

Are we programmed to shut down when we search too deeply? Is there an inbuilt mechanism that flicks a switch? That "slams the minds door shut?" something that prevents us from travelling too far?

So i pondered. Skipped the wine. Told myself it was just my lack of knowledge of space, the cosmos..the universe. That it was my ignorance that was my own worst enemy.. Maybe it was just the enormity of it all... All beyond my comprehension.

But is it? Or are we really just programmed "not to know" ? "




My point being, is this an example of the "Archons" at play?
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I know nothing about any of this to be honest but i Find it interesting.

On a thread about the "stars" i seemingly bored everyone with this experience;

"Whilst living abroad (france, greece, Italy) in areas with very low light pollution, for many years i'd often pour a glass of wine, trot out into the garden and contemplate the big question(s) and there was always the same result.

I'd stare in awe at the sight before me. Dumfounded. At peace with the world and slightly detatched. Alone but not lonely. As i wondered (and wandered) searching for answers, digesting the craziness before me..my mind would open up... Elements would unravel, my line of thought would soar... I'd feel like i was "on to something..." but just when i could feel the pulse of the cosmos, just when i felt things where about to show themselves, answers to be given...BANG.

Shutdown. Like a door slamming. My mind would become traitor. Every signal in my brain would conspire against me. I'd get a headache, a fuzziness then a mental fog would descend... I could feel it, completely aware but unable to counter the effects.

Are we programmed to shut down when we search too deeply? Is there an inbuilt mechanism that flicks a switch? That "slams the minds door shut?" something that prevents us from travelling too far?

So i pondered. Skipped the wine. Told myself it was just my lack of knowledge of space, the cosmos..the universe. That it was my ignorance that was my own worst enemy.. Maybe it was just the enormity of it all... All beyond my comprehension.

But is it? Or are we really just programmed "not to know" ? "




My point being, is this an example of the "Archons" at play?
We aren't programmed to not know. We already know. Its remembering or accessing that info. I would say there are all types of distractions and programs that want to slow us down or prevent us from gaining that knowledge.

But they only work as far as we let them. We have free will. Two nights ago I awoke and as usual got my dream journal. Unlike other times I had a heavy sleep hit me before I could write it down. I recognized this and fought through it to write it down.

The dream had a message that I am being watched by the archons
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Very good example, ilreverendo!

Some part of you was shutting the gate to that wider understanding. Whether we call it the personality who doesn't want to melt into the wholeness, the archon 'within', a protective angel perhaps. It's just possible that if you'd opened your mind to the vast awesomeness, you would have downloaded (via your crown chakra) such a rush of cosmic energy, your body and mind would have been fried. Some people who had kundalini awakening experiences nearly died.

I would carry on approaching the oneness, gently. Let your lower bodies (archonic personalities?) slowly acclimatise to the impressions that come via your Soul. Let the Soul take over. Try to 'be' the Soul in your daily life, not following the multiple urges of the archonic self.

Then, one day it'll really happen. It's like a lock, where the water levels on both sides of the gate have to be equalised, otherwise you can't open the gate and pass through.

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If one does have their own personal Djinn, how does one go about contacting it?
Is there any possibility of influencing it to be "good"? Or is the dark side of duality their one true nature? Or is it beyond duality and we only perceive it to be "bad"?
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