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Old 30-06-2012, 07:03 PM   #21
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It's an internal society, it is a social order, however you can spin it how you like.


eppyone, I think this is speaks the truth.
I wasn't spinning anything. Just making an observation.
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Old 30-06-2012, 07:49 PM   #22
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I wasn't spinning anything. Just making an observation.
The spining part was for someone else not you, one of the masons on the board, the second I was making an observation to you posting this picture that this is what they are.

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Old 30-06-2012, 08:00 PM   #23
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Elite?? hehehehe!

I am a retired travel agent and the one of the highest ranking members in my order is a retired ambulance driver....next question?
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Old 30-06-2012, 08:05 PM   #24
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Old 30-06-2012, 08:37 PM   #25
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Elite?? hehehehe!

I am a retired travel agent and the one of the highest ranking members in my order is a retired ambulance driver?
One might call into question how high Co-Freemasonry ranks in the Elitist pyramid system...


"Co-Freemasonry is a form of Freemasonry which admits both men and women. It began in France in the 1880s with the forming of Le Droit Humain, and is now an international movement represented by several Co-Masonic administrations throughout the world. Most male-only Masonic Lodges do not recognise Co-Freemasonry, holding it to be irregular or clandestine."
"Notwithstanding the prohibition of interaction in a ritual context, the United Grand Lodge of England (UGLE), the oldest of the Grand Lodges, whilst not recognising Co-Freemasonry, states that it does hold informal discussions from time to time with Women's and Co-Masonic Grand Lodges on issues of mutual concern, and that
Brethren are therefore free to explain to non-Masons, if asked, that Freemasonry is not confined to men (even though this Grand Lodge does not itself admit women)"

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Irregular or Unrecognized Freemasonry

"The views presented in the following section are not endorsed by the Grand Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons of Arizona or the Grand Master of Free and Accepted Masons of Arizona but are solely the opinions of its author ***
To many of you reading this, the subject of irregular or unrecognized Freemasonry may seem odd and unfamiliar. After all, it is curious that there should be an irregular version of a fraternal organization, but there is and with the communicative resources available in our time these organizations try their hardest to gain a footing.
There are many reasons why these organizations are considered irregular to mainstream Freemasonry. Some of these organizations violate our ancient landmarks, constitutions, codes of conduct and other elements that make up the foundation of Freemasonry. Some do it strictly for profit and through deception to generate income from unsuspecting people and yet some seem to do it simply out of spite."

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Old 01-07-2012, 12:31 AM   #26
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That's funny, you state that Freemasonry is a secret society and follow that with telling me what really goes on in Freemasonry.
If Freemasonry is a secret society...then how in the world do people know that 33 degree masons run the show? Isn't it Occult? Y'know, hidden knowledge not understood by the uninitiated?
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:40 AM   #27
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Old 01-07-2012, 01:26 AM   #28
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Are there 'elite' Anti Masons? LG? DI?
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Old 01-07-2012, 01:53 AM   #29
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Are there 'elite' Anti Masons? LG? DI?
LOLZ! "Elite" anti-masons...they exist alright!
Oh and who are you referring to by LG and DI?
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Old 01-07-2012, 05:19 PM   #30
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When you become best at something, it's what you are, an elite.
So yes psquared it would seem so,they are among the best at exposing the lies and corruption that has become the fabric of modern freemasonry.

If you are not a corrupt shill Then help purge your system of its Blofelds.






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Who the eck would want 2 accounts...maybe the desperate ones
The desperate and Young ones:they should keep there heads well inside the window


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The épée is the modern derivative of the dueling sword, the smallsword (itself descended from the rapier, used in sport fencing). Épée is French for "sword".
As a thrusting weapon the épée is similar to a foil (compared to a sabre), but has a stiffer blade that is V-shaped in cross-section, has a larger bell guard, and is heavier. The technique however, is somewhat different, as there are no rules regarding priority and right of way. In addition, the entire body is a valid target area.


An Épée is no match for a samuari sword



who's LG and DI

Why Lightgiver and David Icke of course
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:11 PM   #31
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Lightbulb Lies & Deception

Thing is bush are these masons who post on here really masons..It could well be they are Jesuits or some other radical group pretending to be Masons,and on the other hand we could have Masons on here pretending to be Jesuits or some other kind of secret radical group with agendas.

Its hard enough to trust people that you know in the flesh never mind on the internet etc etc...


Deception, beguilement, deceit, bluff, mystification, bad faith, and subterfuge are acts to propagate beliefs that are not true, or not the whole truth (as in half-truths or omission). Deception can involve dissimulation, propaganda, and sleight of hand. It can employ distraction, camouflage or concealment. There is also self-deception as in bad faith.

Deception is a major relational transgression that often leads to feelings of betrayal and distrust between relational partners. Deception violates relational rules and is considered to be a negative violation of expectations. Most people expect friends, relational partners, and even strangers to be truthful most of the time. If people expected most conversations to be untruthful, talking and communicating with others would require distraction and misdirection to acquire reliable information. A significant amount of deception occurs between romantic and relational partners.


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Old 01-07-2012, 07:00 PM   #32
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Democracy is an egalitarian form of government in which all the citizens of a nation together determine public policy, the laws and the actions of their state, requiring that all citizens (meeting certain qualifications) have an equal opportunity to express their opinion...

It appears the Demon cratic Governments are not listening..

Hey what if we do not agree with all the citizens of a nation...what happens to the other half...check out link 392...I see the Demon cratic Governments are still putting Fluo ride in the water...some things never change eh...


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The story begins in 1924, when Interessen Gemeinschaft Farben (I.G. Farben), a German chemical manufacturing company, began receiving loans from American bankers, gradually leading to the creation of the huge I.G. Farben cartel. In 1928 Henry Ford and American Standard Oil Company (The Rockefellers) merged their assets with I.G. Farben, and by the early thirties, there were more than a hundred American corporations which had subsidiaries and co-operative understandings in Germany. The I.G. Farben assets in America were controlled by a holding Company, American I.G. Farben, which listed on it’s board of directors: Edsel Ford, President of the Ford Motor Company, Chas. E. Mitchell, President of Rockerfeller’s National City Bank of New York, Walter Teagle, President of Standard Oil New York, Paul Warburg, Chairman of the federal reserve and brother of Max Warburg, financier of Germany’s War effort, Herman Metz, a director of the Bank of Manhattan, controlled by the Warburgs, and a number of other members, three of which were tried and convicted as German war criminals for their crimes against humanity. In 1939 under the Alted agreement, the American Aluminum Company (ALCOA), then the worlds largest producer of sodium fluoride, and the Dow Chemical Company transferred its technology to Germany. Colgate, Kellogg, Dupont and many other companies eventually signed cartel agreements with I.G. Farben, creating a powerful lobby group accurately dubbed “the fluoride mafia”(Stephen 1995)...At the end of World War II, the US government sent Charles Eliot Perkins, a research worker in chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology, to take charge of the vast Farben chemical plants in Germany. The German chemists told Perkins of a scheme which they had devised during the war and had been adapted by the German General Staff. The German chemists explained of their attempt to control the population in any given area through the mass medication of drinking water with sodium fluoride, a tactic used in German and Russian prisoner of war camps to make the prisoners “stupid and docile”(Stephen 1995). Farben had developed plans during the war to fluoridate the occupied countries because it was found that fluoridation caused slight damage to a specific part of the brain, making it more difficult for the person affected to defend his freedom and causing the individual to become more docile towards authority. Fluoride remains one of the strongest anti-psychotic substances known, and is contained in twenty-five percent of the major tranquilizers.
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:03 PM   #33
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:27 PM   #34
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A few snippets from the Biggest secret...


Manly P. Hall, the Freemasonic historian and initiate, said that black magic dictated the state religion in Egypt and that the intellectual and spiritual activities of the people were paralyzed by complete obedience to the dogma formulated by the priestcraft. What a perfect description of the Levite-Babylonian mode of manipulation and of all the religions, like Christianity, which were to emerge from the lies they peddled. And that’s a crucial point to remember. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all base their beliefs on these same stories written by the Levites after their stay in Babylon. We are looking at a point in history which was to define and control the world from then until now.


The knowledge the Levites stole from Egypt and expanded as a result of their stay in Babylon, became known as the Cabala (Kabala, Qaballa), which comes from the Hebrew root, QBL, meaning mouth to ear. This is the method used to communicate the most secret information to initiates. The Cabala is the esoteric stream of what is called Judaism, which in fact is a front for the Babylonian Brotherhood, as is the Vatican. The Cabala is the secret knowledge hidden in codes within the Old Testament and other texts. Judaism is the literal interpretation of it. This is a technique you can see in all the religions.




The Elite..Th el em ite...


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Old 01-07-2012, 08:49 PM   #35
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El ite enough for you
It's the UGLE, they don't represent Freemasonry worldwide.

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This post highlights why Freemasons are thought to be evil and "Satanic" and other such rubbish. Says a lot to me.
That first Papal Bull came about a year after Chevalier Andrew Michael Ramsay is said to have given his famous Oration in France connecting Freemasonry to Knights from the Crusades. Against popular belief, he tied them to the Knights of St. John, not the Templars. It's quite an interesting read.

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For every "elite" Mason there are a dozen Farmers, Steelworkers, road workers, etc who are Freemasons.
Even in my Grand Lodge this is the same. The last one was a farmer and the current one is a retired teacher.

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What makes it elite ? the practice. Just like in the army there are elite soldiers, elite snipers and so on.
So elitism is bad because it distinguishes who is really good at something? It's laughable how irrelevant and pointless your analogies are.

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As such an institution like the free masons where members train to become elite so they can then occupy positions of powers in the establishment and rule over the social class.
Where does this occur?

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Masons teaches to better your self ( become an elite), since the best of the best of the best are the elites, the elitist force.
So you're one for mediocrity? You're satisfied with not always doing better, getting better?

I also know that you don't quite get what elitism is.
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However the elites we are talking about are the ones that have become elites in ruling the social class.
So the best qualified to lead us shouldn't?

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Only problem is that masonry it's self is corrupt and it does not make good ruling elite but the contrary.
How are we corrupt?

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So I'm guessing you're a socialist or marxist.

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Designed by the Secretary of the Congress (who taught Latin at an academy).

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Briefly the elite is the top of an pyramid structure as the Freemasons appears to worship
Yeah, that's not really how we are structured, but nice try.

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Old 01-07-2012, 09:07 PM   #37
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So you're one for mediocrity? You're satisfied with not always doing better, getting better?
How does that help you in saying that masonry does not makes social elites of the social ruling class. What your doing here is confirming my point.

The best of the best can only be such as only if they dedicate their selfs, where as normal people remain normal.

Isn't masonry adopting good normal people to better them even more ?

Even more are you saying normal people that join the masonic lodge are mediocre ? So let me get this straight, you are in a mediocre state before joining the masonry as a normal human being and you must get better by progressing in masonry. That is your answer fella.

I did not know that normal=mediocre. Thanks for enlighting us all.

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So the best qualified to lead us shouldn't?
You just admited with this one that masonry is a tool for making elitists to rule over the social class.

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So I'm guessing you're a socialist or marxist.
These predicates are usually only negative concepts in elite circles and in the U.S.Generally where they unfortunately have misunderstood its meaning...
I could imagine that the McCarthy period (that mildly reminiscent of propagandistic brainwash at the same level as Nazism) and the Cold War has left its mark
I see it more as a diametrical opposition to fascism and unequal distribution of wealth..It took you guys a while to get into the World War II (although Patton would rather spare the Germans) thank god we had the Russians...



Put briefly,these concepts have a different meaning in Europe than in the U.S. generally...
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Is Freemasonry the only organization that has this pyramidal structure?
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Is Freemasonry the only organization that has this pyramidal structure?
Of course not as you sure know it occurs for example in all kinds of religions and Cults as well as in military, royal houses, nobility, intelligence and criminal groups like the Mafia and bikers(whose power structure is very similar to Freemasonry) with their war Ministers and presidents, and not at least in large corporations especially multinational corporations, and I wonder if there is not a few Freemasons in all the above-mentioned...



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