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Old 29-04-2015, 09:04 AM   #16541
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Well done, susan, you super sleuth, you! But you are wrong. Got any K.C.M.G.'s yourself, have we?

Actually, I got it from here, so it must have been repeated in one place or another..:
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/f...ge2817266/pg64

The repetition shows how relevant it is, imo. I didn't post a link originally because I wasnt sure if it was allowed to cross-post to 'rival' sites.

I think you'll find that skepticism of establishment is a well-worn path amongst the survivor community, and these don't sound like establishment at all, do they? I'll check my copy of A&C Black's Who's Who later to be sure.

I bet there's some intersting links for daughter + Hon. William Julius Lowthian Plowden in turn the son of Edwin Noel August Plowden, Baron Plowden who was K.C.B and G.C.B
Actually, it is a requirement to give links
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:08 AM   #16542
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First, I think the police videos only got to the mother by accident, after she fired her legal team and they turned over all the material.
Bullshit! Are you trying to tell me they were that naive they handed over the only copies they had? Where's your evidence for this claim? ED may have been as wet behind the ears about these things as they come BEFORE the children's revelations, but AFTER, she wouldn't have trusted anyone ever again other than those she believed were on her side.

ps. And, I wasn't talking about the official videos, I was talking about the ones they'd made themselves.

pps. What was your purpose in removing one of my paragraphs?

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Old 29-04-2015, 09:23 AM   #16543
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what exactly is a special school whistleblower?
It was a special section on the old school website for people to blow the whistle on alleged abuse in the school. I spoke to an irish chap who assured he would investigate and get back to me. I tried again 2 weeks later , still nothing. That was February.
I could tell when i spoke to him that nothing would come of it. He was very detached and 'briefed'.
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:26 AM   #16544
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Bullshit! Are you trying to tell me they were that naive they handed over the only copies they had? Where's your evidence for this claim? ED may have been as wet behind the ears about these things as they come BEFORE the children's revelations, but AFTER, she wouldn't have trusted anyone ever again other than those she believed were on her side.

ps. And, I wasn't talking about the official videos, I was talking about the ones they'd made themselves.
If you had been paying attention, It was covered on here, eons ago. After sacking the legal team they had no choice but to give all evidence to the mother. It is the law. newbie.
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:26 AM   #16545
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first of all,

no link to see where this came from. a quick search revealed it came from sabines site, http://whistleblowerkids.uk/2015/04/...establishment/.

so no bias then.

secondly

a search of each of the people alleged in sabines article (a comment) to be involved in

'the single biggest paedophile ring that could lead all the way to the top of the tree?'


revealed nothing.

none of the so-called high level establishment paedo individuals names returned any results, with +paedophile and +child porn or +porn except for in association with the original article from sabine which was reblogged by butlincat.

Please research what you put up here as people may actually believe it.
i looked up what those initials meant.
Knight Grand Cross (GCB) or Dame Grand Cross (GCB)
Knight Commander (KCB) or Dame Commander (DCB)
Companion (CB)

So the producer of the RD VD interview was from a family with very high connections in the establishment. Knight Grand Cross and Knight Commander no less.

Just shows how the 'establishment' is trying to cover up this whole case.
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:27 AM   #16546
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Actually, it is a requirement to give links
Unless it violates the terms and conditions of the DI forum, of course. Of which there are many.
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:28 AM   #16547
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It was a special section on the old school website for people to blow the whistle on alleged abuse in the school. I spoke to an irish chap who assured he would investigate and get back to me. I tried again 2 weeks later , still nothing. That was February.
I could tell when i spoke to him that nothing would come of it. He was very detached and 'briefed'.
Did your Spidey-senses tell you that, bo? Do you EVER get false readings on your Pedar detecting equipment?
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:31 AM   #16548
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If you had been paying attention, It was covered on here, eons ago. After sacking the legal team they had no choice but to give all evidence to the mother. It is the law. newbie.
That's not the point I was making and you know it. I KNOW what happened with the official documentation. I was talking about their own recordings, which you seem to be declaring they never made copies of. Is that what you are telling us, bo, and if it is, how do you know this?
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:32 AM   #16549
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These are valid and urgent questions for Sabine McNeill's close collaborator Jacqui Farmer, well said Susan.

Will she answer to her reckless (and criminally contemptuous) harassment of the people she publicises with such wild abandon?

You can't delete these questions here Jacqui Farmer, and people who are informed about the Hampstead Hoax and your and sabine's farcical propaganda, and alarmed by your criminal behaviour, will continue to ask them.

I'll ask one more: which government agency are you working on behalf of, Jacqui Farmer? Or does Sabine keep you in the dark about that...?
I thought talking about government agents was off limits on this thread?

So if you can talk about them, then why can't I?

Anyway, that post was pointing out the high powered connections of the producer at the BBC, the producer who produced an interview which was highly dubious and extremely biased in pushing the 'nothing to see here but a man hitting children with spoons' case.

Very odd.
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:33 AM   #16550
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I dislike the bbc and everything it stands for with every fibre of my being, so it pains me to stick up for them here, but, the truth is, if they'd ignored this story they'd have been accused of covering it up, and when they address it in a manner that doesn't suit the believers, it's propaganda.

Poor Aunty, she had no way of ever winning against this implacable foe.
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:45 AM   #16551
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Shame on you Alf for asking sensible rational questions related to reason and reality!

This kind of shameless behaviour has no place in the fruitloop realms of limitless gullibility and blind indifference to inconvenient facts!

I was just browsing comments on Sabine's "whistleblowerkids" site, it's like an echo-chamber for the obtusely obsessed.

From one thread, these are the kind of personal belief systems you're asking sensible questions of:
"I think this case is revealing to us a world-controlling filthy network that is everywhere, and has been in existence since Babylon & beyond. It’s a sacrificial death cult that seems to obtain energy/food from human blood and inflicting suffering. Parliament/Government seems to be their Authoritarian pose of a right to power."

"I agree with a mass, coordinated letter-writing effort to MPs. The problem here is that the cults are very organized and networked. One thing about them is that they are always ‘at work'; they are always seeking to promote their agenda, commit crimes, and hide their crimes. Not many people in my opinion have been as committed as they are, and it will be a challenge to beat them without at least equal commitment."

"Unfortunately, the judge and the rest are doing their job as cultists and cult-connected people. It’s left to the good people who acknowledge that the children are telling the truth to blow the cover off Hampstead’s (and maybe Britain’s) satanic underworld."

These are the kind of people who believe just about anything they are told that fits into their paranoid desire for confirmation from others that their delusions are shared. Jacqui Farmer has been telling them that 10% of the population are Satanists.

This whole Satanic Ritual Abuse angle seems to be the thrust of the "muddy the waters" part of the secret services psyop - that's the way I am being drawn to see this case because I cannot reconcile the size and scope of the propaganda campaign with spontaneously outraged well-meaning individuals, this has been planned and organised.

So interested Joe Public might ask himself: "are they saying that the Westminster paedos are Satanists? Is that what all the internet campaigners want me to believe? Well I don't, it's just too daft and we've seen this nonsense before"... discredit-muddy-distract... lead by the nose by Sabine, Belinda, Jacqui and their backroom staff.

We can't reason with proponents of this propaganda Alf. Though of course you must keep asking your shamelessly rational questions or this rare space of balanced debate will be left only to them (dissent is deleted on their "official" sites). I'm sure you know better than to expect meaningful answers of course.
Now where are my quaaludes...

Edit: link to source of quoted comments

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Old 29-04-2015, 09:54 AM   #16552
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"what exactly is a special school whistleblower?"

It was a special section on the old school website for people to blow the whistle on alleged abuse in the school. I spoke to an irish chap who assured he would investigate and get back to me. I tried again 2 weeks later , still nothing. That was February.
I could tell when i spoke to him that nothing would come of it. He was very detached and 'briefed'.
But Bo, you had no first hand information to "blow the whistle" on, what on earth were you doing contacting them for? To waste their time when they could be dealing with actual whistleblowers?

You do understand the meaning of "whistleblower", don't you?
It's someone revealing first hand, insider information.

And as the person wasn't receptive to a time waster you deem him "briefed", briefed by the 'baby-eating blood-drinking group-paedo Satanists' aka most of the school staff...?
Do you realise how paranoid and irrational that sounds?
Add that to your other calls to the school, with whom you have no valid business, and your actions amount to harassment, or nuisance at least.
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:55 AM   #16553
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Well done, susan, you super sleuth, you! But you are wrong. Got any K.C.M.G.'s yourself, have we?

Actually, I got it from here, so it must have been repeated in one place or another..:
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/f...ge2817266/pg64

The repetition shows how relevant it is, imo. I didn't post a link originally because I wasnt sure if it was allowed to cross-post to 'rival' sites.

I think you'll find that skepticism of establishment is a well-worn path amongst the survivor community, and these don't sound like establishment at all, do they? I'll check my copy of A&C Black's Who's Who later to be sure.

I bet there's some intersting links for daughter + Hon. William Julius Lowthian Plowden in turn the son of Edwin Noel August Plowden, Baron Plowden who was K.C.B and G.C.B
And maybe we should remind ourselves of the date that those children's videos were first launched on the internet. Coincidentally, a few days before the vote on the Official Secrets Act when MPs rejected immunity for public officials who blow the whistle on child sex abuse.

And just in case I need a link, here's a simple one: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=3217561

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Old 29-04-2015, 09:57 AM   #16554
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Unless it violates the terms and conditions of the DI forum, of course. Of which there are many.
When posting something from another source, a link is required. If it violates the T and Cs, it will be removed, link or no link.
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:58 AM   #16555
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I would feel SO aggrieved, that I would state publically that it was NOT TRUE and I would present myself for examination of my privates, to show that the alleged birthmarks and tattoos did not exist.

From these people? Crickets.....
So, let's see what you are saying here. Under these exact same circumstances, where currently a tiny percentage of the planet's population are even aware of these allegations(yet, going by the poll in this thread, a third are convinced you are guilty), you would expose your privates and your privacy so an even larger audience can come to the wrong conclusion about you? And that makes sense to you?
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Old 29-04-2015, 10:03 AM   #16556
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There are some good investigative reporters out there. Just watch this. Parallels of the Hampstead case.

Officers told to stop investigation.

The Official Secrets Act was used to threaten officers. In the Hampstead case, the secret family courts were used instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6PEH-jVT4c
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Old 29-04-2015, 10:06 AM   #16557
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The Secret Family Courts that the lead campaigner didn't realise she could have sat in on? Hmmmm... their obstructiveness knows no bounds.
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Old 29-04-2015, 10:09 AM   #16558
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If you can't vote unless you're an Icke forum member there doesn't seem much point to it. Don't forget this thread is not in Today's news so even members won't see it. Basically you're just asking the regular posters on this thread to vote and this bears no reflection on what visitors to the site think.
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I didn't bother voting in the pole they've got up now because there were no relevant boxes to tick.
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Personally, I do not see any point in partecipating in this poll.
You asked for a vote, you got a vote. It didn't go your way so you demanded a different vote. The vote was changed to accommodate you. It still didn't go your way, so you want another vote, and another vote and as many damn votes as it takes until you're right.
I suppose you've been off telling everyone to come make an account so they can vote, too huh.


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In which case, it would beg the question, why was there not a fair and proper investigation
Have you got evidence to back up that claim? If you have, when did you or when will you be passing that on to the IPCC so they can investigate and order a new investigation? That's what you want, right? A new independent investigation? Well make the complaint and get the ball rolling.
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Old 29-04-2015, 10:18 AM   #16559
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morning... looks around the room.. yes the insanity is still going on
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And maybe we should remind ourselves of the date that those children's videos were first launched on the internet. Coincidentally, a few days before the vote on the Official Secrets Act when MPs rejected immunity for public officials who blow the whistle on child sex abuse.

And just in case I need a link, here's a simple one: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=3217561
Now here is a real scandal that has been ignored but which is extremely serious and indicative of the truth that the government is in reality working strenuously to sabotage the historical (Westminster) child abuse inquiry and thus maintain the cover-ups, while saying the opposite in public.

From Exaro News:

Ministers block move to lift Official Secrets Act for CSA scandal.
Government rejects immunity for public officials who blow whistle on child sex abuse


Has it occurred to the believers in the True Cult that the Hampstead Hoax was very handy for drawing the attention of interested members of the public, who follow the elite paedo scandals on the internet, away from that very real and shocking event in parliament? We were all reading here...

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